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you have to stop taking me so seriously

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

i’ve nothing better to do today…

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

AND

I forgot to mention, glove tap to Jared for the link.

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

NO NO NO

Helping a team with cap issues by giving up one of your better prospects… who is running this team JFJ?

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

what about

for Byfuglien or Barker, or Versteeg?

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kaberle and a pick for the lot

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

a 2nd round pick taht is

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

L e a v e K a b e r l e A l o n e ! ! !

by general borschevsky on Jul 17, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

never!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agrees.

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by jrwendelman on Jul 17, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No maybe yes

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say no for Stefanovich. That kid looks like he’ll be something special.

 Sharp for XLB and a pick that’s a whole different story.

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

seeing as how the trade is for cap relief, and not really the player, i don’t see them biting on XLB

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

most reports have said XLB’s name. The hawks need toughness on the backend

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i tend to not believe reports until after the fact. i’m predisposed to disbelief.

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

XLB is cap relief over Sharp

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

not enough to get Kane and Toews signed long term. that’s the real issue for the Hawks…

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No single trade is going to get them the cap relief that they need to sign Toews and Kane unless someone takes on Bryan Campbell which won’t happen.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

One will surely walk. Plus given the fact the cap is expected to drop

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Campbell and versteeg for vanry !

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’ll be able to get both but it’ll take a lot of manouevring and negotiation.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

they got some relief with Khabibulin not signing, but half of that was then taken up by Barker’s $3M.

They’re paying Huet way too much money, and Campbell. No one is going to take either of those guys off their hands.

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they’ll figure out a way. They have to.

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

They do have to, however I dont thing they can.
Bowman has LOTS of work to do

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope they can't

it’ll certainly set back the Hawks hopes of winning a Cup before us.

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

they might make a push with what they have this year and risk the cap % inflation next, but they still need a goalie, and it could royaly fuck em if they dont get the cup

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want this Stefanovich character to show us what he can do for the Marlies before a trade for him is even considered

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Same. At the end of the day we’re shipping out a guy who’s been named the most likely to go pro by QMJHL coaches (or GMs?) for a guy whose big year is a hell of an outlier.

Not to mention that any team trading with the Hawks is doing them a favour. Why sweeten the pot? This isn’t Bob Gainey running things.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly, the kid has insane amounts of talent and hockey sense, if they can sort out his head he is going to be a great hockey player

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

question

is he Belorussian?

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes sir

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

correct

that gives him, according to my experience with Belorussian players on the Leafs, a 100% chance of being bat shiat crazy.

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

And have awesome hockey hair.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

and reeeeally piss off habs fans

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is a given

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does he like pineapples?

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet he likes a different tropical fruit…papaya!

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 17, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

somewhere there is a picture of him throwing darts at avacadoes

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ninja stars at coconuts.

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by kidkawartha on Jul 17, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup
played with Grabbo at the worlds
hopefully he likes grabbo unlike certian other belorussians
id love to see stepho and Grabbo go head to head with the tits

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kostitsyns not citizens
“I think he is not Belarussian now, he is French because I never fight with Belarussian guys.”

-Grabbo

by general borschevsky on Jul 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

BWAHAHA

Good point. Grabbo loves his fellow Belorussians. He hates the French though.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

god i love that little nut bar
i think him re-signing is my fav off season moment so far

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Grabs is the coolest. Can’t wait to see him torture the Habs all season! Oh man, with Stefano on a line would be sweet.

If only they could add one more to fill the line up…
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8471255

(Aside: a player search on NHL.com by country, doesn’t list Grabs as a Belarussian??!! He’s technically listed as German because apparently he was born in Potsdam.)

Identical to Sergei Berezin in every way, only 1/10 his size.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 17, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

per wiki
His play so far throughout the 2008-09 QMJHL Season has exemplified that he is starting to become a more consistent and driven player. These improvements have been credited, some say, to his pre-season tryout with the Maple Leafs, where he befriended fellow Belorussian Mikhail Grabovski and Russian Nikolai Kulemin. In order to make the team, he realized he needed to improve these negative aspects of his game.

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Kulemin and him were nearly inseparable during the prospects get together last year when they were baling hay and such.

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by bkblades on Jul 17, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

heeee, so excited for that line one day!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that and being REALLY fuckin happy.

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy also went #2 in the KHL draft, so there must be something to him. I just hate it when the Leafs give up on prospects
/cough Brad Boyes cough

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Different environment

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I’m saying is, learn from past mistakes

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also think that that post kidkoopa wrote about how much of his points came when playing with Kane and Toews should also be considered.

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also in the article

The author mention Tanguay, he could be a good fit on this team

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve always liked Tanguay. As long as he signs for much less than he signed for in his last contract.

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, at the right price, I think Burkie might bite if all he gets back from the D trades (and there will be at least one) are picks and non-nhl ready prospects

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Tanguay a lot… but only if he comes relatively cheap.

by Huey2k2 on Jul 17, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he wanted Tanguay he likely would have signed him already. Tanguay is so desperate that he is personally calling teams to talk.

I think Burke is going to get a top 6 via trade or see what he’s got already.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that trade will only come at the behest of another team. I don’t know that Burke is out there shaking hands and kissing babies attempting to get himself a player. he wants to take advantage of a team in need of cap relief. and when they come to the Leafs looking for that, he’ll hold all the cards.

And for the record, i’m not a fan of the Sharp for Stefanovich trade. just doing my part to play the devil’s advocate….

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The article also mentions that the Hawks are shopping Cam Barker.

As far as I am concerned if you are going to try and pick anyone up, this is who you go after.

by Huey2k2 on Jul 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many d-men do we need?

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t make six 24’ tall defencemen out of only 10 players.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

And starting for the Leafs on Defense we have number 43 Voltron, and number 75 Megazord!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

… on defense, from Energon City, Cybertron, number 38, Omega Supreme!

Identical to Sergei Berezin in every way, only 1/10 his size.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 17, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that we have too many D men as it is, but Cam Barker is going to be very very good in a few years, and if you can get him, then go for it. We can always trade away some D for forwards.

And let’s be honest here, an excess of D is never a bad thing.

by Huey2k2 on Jul 17, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

  Who’s going to take Finger? Van Ryn? Beauchemin was just signed. Is there going to be a big demand for Frogren?

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hello Marlies, here is your new defenceman Jonas Van Finger.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just going to say, bury them in the minors.

Hockey is a competitive business, you perform, and you’ll stay in the NHL.

Plus this would really push all our D men to compete for spots.

by Huey2k2 on Jul 17, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but then we’d still be missing the elite forward (not that I think Sharp is elite).

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true, but quite frankly if there are no elite forwards to be had right now, why not keep stocking up on good solid young D?

by Huey2k2 on Jul 17, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love if they could get Barker but if the cost is a young prospect ie. Stefanovich I don’t think it’s worth it because we have d-men in abundance.

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh of course, personally I consider Stefanovich to be essentially untouchable IMO. I would be very very shocked if Burke traded him, especially considering he has the potential to be a solid top 6 forward, something the Leafs don’t have right now really.

by Huey2k2 on Jul 17, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

its gonna take a block buster to move stefo,

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they offer Burke Byfuglian or Barker at a good price, i think Burkie will jump on it

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Fucking. Way.

I am tired of this team trading away prospects, I don’t think Burke would make this deal.

by Huey2k2 on Jul 17, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, if you make the trade, you’ll certainly end up with an underachieving Sharp while Stefanovich will go on to be a superstar. Of course if you don’t make the trade, Sharp will win the hart this coming year, and Stefanovich will end up being the next Brandon Convery

by Pal Hal Pall on Jul 17, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the Leafs Catch 22.

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but if we’re going to lose either way, we may as well lose and have a lower cap hit by not taking Sharps contract.

by Huey2k2 on Jul 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burke will hold the catch-22 by the arms and Wendel will punch it’s blood out until it works in our favour.

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by kidkawartha on Jul 17, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

As for Byfuglien

How much does he make?

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Research is great!

$3 million!
For this:
77 15 16 31 81

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Similar numbers to Kaberle last year…

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

One is a forward, the other is a defenceman.
Byfulgien is not a top 6 forward

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops

I thought that was Barker!

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read that as Barker’s numbers too. 3 million for that? No thank you.

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

for some reason i thought byfuglian was a defenseman

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He used to be.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

he still should be

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, well then, that explains why some research sites lied to me

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are reading that as d-man numbers…. what does that tell you!

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t disagreeing.

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by furcifer on Jul 17, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

crap, he’s a 4 year nhl player too…

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he's HUGE!

6 foot 243!!!!

Put him in front of the net on the power play. We don’t have skill like Kane, Toews, Havlat, so might as well trucu-late the PP.

I would still not trade Stefanovich for him though. Make them take a D-man.

by Leaf in Habland on Jul 17, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i ♥ buf

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is Poni.
3 Million for a big player who scores 15 goals who doesnt have the skills to be a top 6 for a highky touted prospect. No way

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Poni is only 220. And apparently Buff was almost 300 in junior or something like that (maybe only (!) 260).

I realise that he is probably overpaid a bit, but I do like him.

by Leaf in Habland on Jul 17, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

he would fit right in with the team burke is trying to build, he likes to crash and people hate to play against him.
Poni is a rock in front of the net to move, but Buf is a rock that will punch you

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont get me wrong, I like Byfuglien, but not at that cost

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh no, of course not, it would be a Buffy for a pick or middling prospect kinda deal (maybe a mayers?)
which i dont think would fly

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

shit…if we could swing Mayers to them for Buffy the Luongo Slayer it would be epic

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 17, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not likely but picks + less salary is a deal they have to be looking at.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm, stajan and a 3rd ?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I agree. Not for Stefanovich or Tlusty.

by Leaf in Habland on Jul 17, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a big fan of Buf. To be honest, I think he’s tapped out as a player with 20 goals as max. I just don’t see a goalscorer’s hands from this guy.

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by bkblades on Jul 17, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 i think

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just so everyone knows Eklund says a Kaberle to Vancouver deal is “very close”. That pretty much guarentees hes not going to be traded to Vancouver.

by Jawsh on Jul 17, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Read that as well. Hey this could one of the times he right… you know 3/100!

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

short of Grabner, Kesler, Schneider and the obvious non-starter in hodgeson they dont have much i want

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was jsut about to post that

/reading crap so you dont have to

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Rule # 1 – No direct links to that shithole. Feel free to, only for that site, post excerpts without links.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would never link that waterhead

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel bad everytime I go to that site, but I go for the Andy Strickland updates. I still don;t understand why he doesn’t go somewhere more reputable.

by Jawsh on Jul 17, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because he has decided that it’s worth more to him to get the exposure of being on Hockey Buzz than it is to have any integrity.

Also, he falsely reported last year that whites at home were coming back and that Pronger had officially be traded to LA. He’s just like Eklund.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea he’s reported some stuff like that, but I would say 90% of the time he’s accurate, as apposed to Douchbag Dwayne’s .09% success rate.

by Jawsh on Jul 17, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are massive misses + staying with Hockey Buzz = 0 credibility for me.

It’s funny how many of the writers rip on Eklund behind his back but never leave the site. The only one that’s ever had the balls to go has been Alec Brownscombe and I give huge kudos to him for that move.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

alec is legit too

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alec has also ripped on Howie, which made my love for him grown higher

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha yea I have seen him rip on Eklund openly on his new site, it makes me smile.

by Jawsh on Jul 17, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like MLHS, they do a good job. TOsports…. not so much

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a good core of writers there. TOsports is also a newspaper so their stories lack much depth.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to like them until I read one article with a bunch of absurd trade scenarios.
One was like – Kopitar, Schenn and a 1st for Kaberle and Stajan

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

did they leave out the part where Burke stopped beating the holy hell out of Lombardi so he could sign off on that deal? ‘cause that’s the only way that would happen!

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by stucky on Jul 17, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wrong, but the one in the article was just as fucked…
see post below

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

For your reading pleasure

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

dear god

that LA trade is the stuff of dreams

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

IE
super fucking rediculous

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of credible sites, since when has Sports Illustrated been linking people to this site? It lists articles from the sites like the National Post, Globe and Mail. PPP is always up there as well.

by Jawsh on Jul 17, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

FanNation has been doing it for a while. It’s probably the 5th or 6th best referrer.

Too bad it lumps us in with rags like the National post.

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by PPP on Jul 18, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

AND he says Toronto over paid!!

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really enjoyed the Boston one

Considering Chiarelli wanted Kaberle and OUR first overall pick

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, that’s hilarious, Burke would need serious Jedi mind trick skills to pull those trades off.

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by stucky on Jul 17, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I posted back then
The trades would never ever happen. The LA trade is beyond ridiculous Schenn, Frolov, Teubert and a first for Kaberle and Tlusty?

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by furcifer on Jul 18, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

im still praying to jebus that that happens though

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 18, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Burke needs to beat up Lombardi as said elsewhere.

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by furcifer on Jul 18, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

while they’re at it LA can throw in Kopitar.

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by furcifer on Jul 18, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

dont forget doughty and brown

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 18, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh god….i just read some coments on the hockey buzz

i think im poisoned

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

QUARANTINE!!!

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

works quicker than arsenic.

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by stucky on Jul 17, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be honest, unless Cody Hodgson is coming over, I’ll be disappointed with any deal from the Canucks.

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by bkblades on Jul 17, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which mean it ain’t happenin’.

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by bkblades on Jul 17, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

one comenter there preposed Kaberle and Toskala for Schneider, Kesler and a 1st, that isnt too bad

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would do that

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kesler would be a great pick up, but i’m ont too sure Vancouver is all that hot on trading him.

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would they want Toskala though? I mean common Toskala < Raycroft. I remember the time he tied the Leafs record for wins in a season.

by Jawsh on Jul 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a fantasy deal.

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No dice

That’s an increase of about $6M in cap hits

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kesler makes that little??

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

$1.75M and he’s an impending RFA.

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by PPP on Jul 17, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kesler’s an impending UFA, no? Clarke signed him to an RFA offer sheet a few years back.

by Godd Till on Jul 17, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

nhlnumbers indicate Kesler will be RFA for the 2010/2011 season.

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by bkblades on Jul 17, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s the only deal that would not make me cry.

by Leaf in Habland on Jul 17, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

id be happy with Grabner and a first

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think I’d do that deal for all the reasons already mentioned. I too would like to see what Stefanovich can do if given a chance.

If it were Versteeg in the deal instead of Sharp? I’d at least seriously consider it.

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by stucky on Jul 17, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

nah, not for stefo, i have a super good feeling about that kid

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can get behind that. I like Versteeg though, which is why I’d consider it. Not sure I’d pull the trigger though. I need to learn more about Stef, I haven’t seen or heard enough about him to have a feel for how good he is.

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by stucky on Jul 17, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is a good video of his Q highlights at the hotstove link, but i wanna see what he can do against men in the AHL before a trade is considered for him

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

5pm

In the eastern time zone. Home time.

Hopefully Burke comes back from fishing on Monday with a Large-mouth Buff.

by Leaf in Habland on Jul 17, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Firstly, that’s Chatty Cathy talk. For shame!
Secondly, it was 4:49. Cheater!

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by furcifer on Jul 18, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

tsn on Bozak and Hanson

check outh the hockey hair on Bozak in college

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

damn, i forgot how big Hanson was

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

the kid is large!

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 17, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS!

Sorry i had to.

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by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 17, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

atta kid

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh…I lobbed it up for you…and thankfully you knocked it out of the park

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 17, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bozak’s epic hockey hair has me convinced he’s gonna be something special.

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yah, too bad he cut it
him and grabbo could have some epic hair growing contests

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

cut it in the summer…let it go wild all season long!

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 17, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

all they really care about is cutting their hair. and letting it grow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzhjw-zUDDs

by daoust on Jul 18, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

OLAS also cut his hair too. I think it’s for a fresh start.

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by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 17, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

this season will be sponsored by purt plus!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

As if

Herbal Essences, brodawg.

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by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 17, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah yes, my mistake, who am i to leave out all that head shaking goodness

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love how the 2 of them and Stalberg all live together.

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by leafer1984 on Jul 17, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Byfuglien is available I hope Burke jumps on it. That guy is a real power forward.

by Cameron17 on Jul 17, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome

Thanks for joining.

Hawks fans have a love/hate relationship with Byfuglien because of his work ethic. Wonder if that might open a window.

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by PPP on Jul 18, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and I’d rather hang onto Stefanovich.

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by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 17, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

also, say no to Kyle Beech

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beach is a….well I have no polite words of expressing my thoughts on that one.

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by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 17, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

a child of questionable parentage?

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by blurr1974 on Jul 17, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

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by kidkawartha on Jul 17, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

steve downie syndrome?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rhyming slang is good for these situations.

Try saying that he’s a bit of a James Blunt.

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by article1 on Jul 17, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

So uh

Didn’t I just make a blog post today listing all the reasons I wouldn’t be comfortable trading someone like Stefanovich for Sharp? Pretty sure it’s in the FTB. Pretty topical of me :D

Seriously though, to reiterate, no no no fuck no, no. No. Sharp isn’t much better than any other forward currently residing in our top 6, and I mean that.

by koopa kid on Jul 17, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

depends if you throw Stajan in there or not

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 17, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

last season Stajan was 25, he put up 15 goals and 55 points. Sharp when he was 25 put up 20 goals and 35 points. Before then Sharp had never put up 10 goals or 25 points, Stajan has been putting up at least those numbers since he’s been in the NHL.

Put it to you this way. Matt Stajan has more career NHL points than Patrick Sharp does while being 2 years younger. He also makes less than half as much money.

by koopa kid on Jul 18, 2009 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very Topical. You get a gold star because I liked your arguments.

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by PPP on Jul 18, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep Stefanovich. Lets see what this kid can do before we get rid of him. There is a chance he will bomb and then be worth next to nothing, but better off making that mistake than giving away someone who could be a very good player.

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