A Maple Leaf Wednesday
by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 5:00 AM EDT
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PrintAnd nothing new to report. However, chances are, that rumor mill will get cranking soon enough. The Kaberle trade watch is still on, and regardless of which side of the fence you sit on the issue, it doesn't change the fact that the deadline on the open window, closes soon enough.
I watched Hamlet 2 and Death Race last night. That's a strange double header of film, let me tell you. Still Steve Coogan is hysterical, and Jason Statham apparently only does movies that require him to drive a car really fast, with ridiculously attractive women. Can't say I blame him...
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- Steve has more on the repercussions of the recent Deveaux signing also a German Maple Leafs' at Olympic camp!
- TSM takes a look at the insanity surrounding the upcoming Spezza wedding.
- and has the latest on the Marlies coaching vacancy, and scratches another top 6 forward off the list.
- Wrap Around Curl says love is not for sale, but fandom may have a price. She's also quite the onomatopoeia junkie.
- Loser Domi takes us on a trip back in time to when we were all 15 years younger...
- The Other Vatican invites you to take a seat and hear the state of the rebuild.
- Pal Hal Pall takes on the Ottawa media, and if you're not careful, he'll take on you to!
- Puck Daddy has more on the ongoing Phil Kessel saga. Is he a really good, soon to be great, player, or merely a good player having a great contract year?
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I'm not dead...
i hate google reader
sorry Steve, not sure how I missed it.
Got you added to the top.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
TSM and Pall Hall need to go at it over Mendes’ column blog post
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TSM and Pall Hall need to go at it over Mendes’ column blog post Love letter
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I totally post failed but yes
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(Tasing myself.)
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by Down Goes Brown on Jul 22, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
(Tasing myself.)
I mistakenly read that as “tasting myself” and was both confused and a little grossed out.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m told pineapple juice is the key.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jul 22, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
by kidkawartha on Jul 22, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
you didn’t check it before you left home! morning!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Morning, welcome, come join us in the chatty cathy.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I like that attitude. You’ll fit in well here.
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I watched Death Race the other night, too.
TV is really boring in the summer. I’m stuck on Leafs TV re-runs from the 60’s (which I really can’t get into, I’m sorry) and TMN. Oh, and Entourage on Sundays.
Lots of violence and swearing being editted out…good times
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Truculence is seeping through everywhere.
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I was flipping around channels last night and caught the last half-hour of Commando. There was juuuuuust a bit of truculence in that flick, eh?
Being a Leaf fan here requires one to be sufficiently lubricated... and truculent!
Blow off some steam bennet!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I caught a game against the Bruins back when Hoglund was on Mats’ wing and Berg was a defensive anchor. oh and a brand spanking new rookie antro, it was hilariously depressing
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
With his fresh, shiny knees full of promise…
by theothervatican on Jul 22, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
i find myself recording random movies a lot lately, as there really is NOTHING on TV worth watching.
The wife on the other hand seems to have a reality show for every night of the week.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
its months like this im glad i have a rediculously huge dvd collection
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
its months like this I’m glad I’ve got a doobie in one hand and a cold beer in the other.
my DVD collection is getting stale, unfortunately.
when you have over 200 movies and 50 seasons of various shows, it stays pretty fresh
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s what the internet is for. DVDs are soooo last century.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
i prefer to own my movies, plus my internet is too sketchy to stream or reliably download huge files
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
hooray for Top Gear episodes online!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
yesss
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
ditto
plus, I like the shiny cases…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
BCWW? :)
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by kidkawartha on Jul 22, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Discuss
Phil Kessel: worth the offer sheet/trade?
by theothervatican on Jul 22, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions
no
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Why not? 30g aint sucky
He’s not ballsy enough?
by theothervatican on Jul 22, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
heh, no, just the preposed for Kabby deal. I dont want an RFA with a chance of not re-signing for Thomas.
VanRy and Stajan for sure, but not Kabby
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
i see what you did there...
i’m pro Kessel. Hes perfect for the Leafs, and although he may cost us some youth, he’s not exactly over the hill as he’s turning 22 this Oct.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
and he can snip goals like you wouldnt believe
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Brodeur’s the one who snipped the goal.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely not worth an offer sheet. A trade? Sure but the more I think about it the more I want the Leafs to keep Kaberle.
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I’d love to keep kabby, but if we got a Berglumd, a Hodgeson or a Brassard out of it, i wouldnt lose any sleep
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends on what you’re offering.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
But you concede that he’d fit into the identity of the team?
by theothervatican on Jul 22, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
He lost half his identity and is still playing. Yes he fits in.
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He’s like tofu – no personality.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
beyond Ovi and Avery, find me another hockey player who’s interviews aren’t more painful than taking a hammer to your own face.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Ponikarovsky is pretty funny.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Savard was pretty good when mic’d up during the all-star stuff last year.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I want to seem more grabbo interviews
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Maxime Talbot, as well.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
no MAF though, his horse teeth give me nightmares
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
he’s pulling a Malkin, who is also hilarious in interviews
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Pavel Datsyuk perfected that tactic.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I get the point about boring, but how a hockey player performs in front of microphone is about as important to me as their astrologcial sign.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
ditto
unless he’s a Sagittarius or Leo, I don’t want them on my team.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Leos
We’re natural-born leaders
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my wife’s a Leo, so I know exactly what you mean…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Tomas Kaberle – March 2nd – Pisces
by general borschevsky on Jul 22, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I was born on the cusp. I’m an Aquarius but had I been born mere minutes later I’d be a Pisces.
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Virtually every signifiacant person in my life has either been Aquarius or Scorpian. It’s really weird.
by general borschevsky on Jul 22, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Well it’s good to know I mean so much to you.
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so
I’m not significant to you is what you’re saying?
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s not get carried away here.
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Scorpios rule…like my man Schenn! Bow before us…
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
that was good stuff, they used to all be on youtube, but they were taken down
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
in game and interview are two entirely different things.
as far as Roenick, Roy and Shanahan, one’s retired and the other two will be soon enough. roenick is a great sound bite. Shanny is hit and miss for me.
I think about interviews with guys like Crosby, Iginla, Zetterberg, Drury, Briere, and a hundred others I could name that are just painful. By and large, NHL players are not fans of the interview process, and quite frankly I could care less.
Did Kessel score 30+ goals a season after being diagnosed with cancer? Did he do it all after just turning 21? Is 21 the new 31, and if so, does that mean he’s peaked?
Kessel is going to be a very good, possibly great, player for a long time. Boring off the ice or not.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s too dull to be boring.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
His shooting percentage is an outlier so far, he was benched in last season’s playoffs (not a good sign), he dropped in his draft year precisely because of his attitude problems, and even an opposition GM noted that he’s good but maybe not great. At the money he’d command he needs to be great.
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he could be a Kovalchuck or he could be a Kovalev, who knows
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Kabby was benched once.
as far as the money. Great players are being paid $6 or $7M plus.
$4.5 to $5M for a 30 goal sniper? That’s a bargain in my books. And he’s only going to get better. You keep forgetting how young he is.
We went through this once with Jeff Freaking Carter and you were proven wrong…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d take him at 5 mill sure, but not at 5 mill plus a 1st, 2nd and third or at kabby
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Kabby has one more season
and then he’s going to cost more than the $4.5 to $5.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, but i have an attachement to kabby, one that would make the extra money worth it
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
If the Leafs don’t trade Kaberle I doubt he’ll re-sign. All of his buddies are gone and he’ll have gone through 3 years of non-stop speculation about his no-trade clause.
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Agreed. Trade him for someone hungry
by theothervatican on Jul 22, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Blues, LA, Vancouver!!
they have so much i want to plunder!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
the Blues do have some interesting pieces. Oshie and Backes for Kaberle?
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I have to believe that Oshie’s going nowhere.
They call him the King of St. Louis!
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Apparently Backes is a bit of a head-case
by theothervatican on Jul 22, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
and...?
so’s Grabbo.
Headcases can be entertaining.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah ....
but the Good Kind….
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by CrossCheckRaise on Jul 22, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t know why, but I love trading for Backes on NHL09.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
admittedly if St. Louis offered that deal, they’d be retarded, and Burke would take it
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Berglund or Backes and af first!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
i really don’t see us getting a player and a first rounder for Kaberle. 2nd rounder and a roster player and a prospect is more likely.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
you will not stop me from overblowing this!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah…again, I don’t think Burke has got that offer for Kaberle yet, hence no trade.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
not in a million years....
Not gonna happen.
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by CrossCheckRaise on Jul 22, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
you will never kill my dreams!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade him to someone who doesn’t realize he’s finished.
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vancouver?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
CODY HODGSON!!!!1
(the new Rick nash)
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
What about Carter?
The question is whether he’s a 35 goal sniper or a 20 goal sniper. That’s a big difference when you are not only committing $5M per year but the long-term contract it’ll require and giving up 3 draft picks.
I’m just saying it’s a gamble.
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so’s the draft.
You know for certain that Kessel can play, play well, and do it in the bigs.
As far as Carter, once upon a time you thought Carter wasn’t going to be amounting to much. We had a whole post devoted to it. I’ll see if I can find it…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
No, that’s not what I was arguing in that post. What I was arguing was that for Steen’s first season was better than Carter and Richards and then Paul Maurice ruined him.
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sure buddy… :)
anyhoo, i’m pro Kessel, no changing my mind. Don’t feel like rehashing the same arguments we have every week over this issue. Can’t wait until he signs or gets traded, wherever that may be…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t wait until he re-signs with Boston.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s not ‘sure buddy’ it’s the truth and everyone can read it here.
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whatever
the end result is I was right. Carter is awesome, Steen not so much. Regardless of who’s fault that is…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
No, you weren’t right because I was never saying that Carter wasn’t awesome.
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somehow, I won that argument.
i refuse to believe otherwise and logic can not sway me.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
You were right in saying that Steen stunk which I blame on Paul Maurice.
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see
I was right!
WINNER!!!!! :)
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
In a sense. You’ll notice in that fanpost that nothing that I suggested they do to see if Steen could recapture his rookie form was done.
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The benching was two seasons ago, and he took it to heart.
Blake Wheeler was the guy who got benched this year.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I am still in 2008-2009 mode.
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I keep watching that hfboards video and am far too giddy for next season
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Trade maybe, offer sheet no. For his likely salary the picks would be too onerous.
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It would probably be in the realm of one first. That’s too steep?
by theothervatican on Jul 22, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Here’s this year’s compensation figures:
$994,433 or below – No Compensation
$994,434 – $1,506,717 – 2010 3rd round pick
$1506,718 – $3,013,433 – 2010 2nd round pick
$3,013,433 – $4,520,150 – 2010 1st round pick, 2010 3rd round pick
$4,520,151 – $6,026,867 – 2010 1st round pick, 2010 2nd round pick, 2010 3rd round pick
$6,026,868 – $7,533,584 – 2010 1st round pick, 2011 1st round pick, 2010 2nd round pick, 2010 3rd round pick
Over $7,533,584 – 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 1st round picks.
The minimum would be a 1st and 3rd but I have a feeling that he’d end up costing the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
Plus, his shooting percentage is, so far, a hell of an outlier.
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He's 22
you guys are all acting like he’s too old to improve. That somehow, because he did improve, he must not be that good.
He’s 22. I can’t get over how young he is, and how good he is already. He’s only going to get better.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, a 1, 2 and three is not worth it
by theothervatican on Jul 22, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
No, we’re not saying he’s too young to improve we’re saying that the big area where he improved is generally not sustainable.
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Trade: sure. Offer sheet: holy god no.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jul 22, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Trade yes, Offer Sheet no…Picks not worth losing …a trade for him isn’t bad, but I’m not sure giving up Kaberle interdivisionally is a wise course to dig him out of Boston. I say 4years at 5 to 5.5 per, tops…I think they’d take White and a prospect or two…which seems steep, but sometimes you need to take a calculated gamble
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
2 questions about Kessel
1. Is he the straw that stirs the drink or is he benefitting from playing with one of the league’s premier set-up men in Savard?
His goals for 60 nearly drops in half when he’s not on the ice with Savard (from 1.246 to 0.782)
2. Are his numbers sustainable?
As many have pointed out, last year’s shooting percentage was a big outlier for him. If he reverts to his norm he’s a 25 goal man.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Jeff O’Neill put up consecutive 20 goal seasons for $1.5M and was booed out of town.
Are the additional five goals really worth an extra $3M/year and the Leafs best puck moving defenceman?
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I never understood the O’Neil hate. Admittedly I had a soft spot for him since he was a Whaler.
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I think the O’Neil hate was due to the expectations lauded upon him to be the great goal scoring savior, and not realizing that his heart just wasn’t in it as much
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Uh, maybe it was his total lack of effort, the fact that his goals came in blowouts (either way), and his doughy face.
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Ah yes, the old “his goals stunk” argument.
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Yup
His second year at least was better but his first he was 19. +/ might be a flawed stat but on the 2006 team O’Neill was behind such luminaries as Jason Allison (-18), Clarke Wilm (-15) and Wade Belak (-13).
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Sadly
They don’t give points for that or Grabbo would have won the Calder last year.
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I dunno, schenn had himself a wonderful mane of hockey hair for a bit
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Ive never forgivien him for snapping the leafs spirit in that canes series
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
me neither
but i’m safely secluded from unreasonable expectations out here in CA.
Somehow, I think the general masses and MSM will only be impressed and happy if a player breaks Gretzky’s records every season…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, I would never swap Kaberle for him directly. No chance. If the deal was for other pieces, than I have no issue. sadly, teams pay a hefty price for potential.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Nazem Kadri has been described as a Marc Savard type player. Kadri with Kessel on the wing sounds kinda dangerous.
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and Stefano on the other wing
that kid is gonna be a beast if he can get his shit right
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
now you’re talking…
trade for Kessel, let him and Kadri develop together. Chemistry is born, magic happens, unicorns and rainbows for all!
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I see Bozak as more of the top centre…with Kadri slowly moving to wing as he develops
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
BOZAK!!!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
but...
unicorns and rainbows for all?
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Id rather have puppies and cheesecake
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
shit, if it’s neccessary, we’ll blow frigging pixie dust into the communal Kool Aid and hand it out to all
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
don’t take the brown kool-aid. it’s bad
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
this ain’t Ottawa and I’m not that silly. Go Flyers!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry, that was a Woodstock reference.
Obviously, I’ve seen the movie one too many times.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
You may take it with however many grains of salt that you wish: The brown Kool-Aid that is circulating around us is not, specifically, too good. It is suggested that you stay away from that. Of course it’s your own trip. So be my guest, but please be advised that there is a warning on that one, ok?"
by general borschevsky on Jul 22, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Bozak’s on a one-year deal.
It’s a nice problem to have, but if he shows the potential to be a top centre the Leafs will have to pay-up as the cap begins to constrict and as White, Stralman, Kulemin, Hanson and Mitchell also hit RFA status.
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My understanding is that year one of the deal was actually last year.
Hanson too.
I could be wrong on this one though…
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Hanson is definitely an RFA after this season (just like Gustafsson, Stalman, White, Kulemin, Mitchell, and Tlusty).
Bozak might not be until 2011.
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Ok well no biggie. He’ll be an RFA.
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Like you said, if he has an absurd season it’ll be worth paying him or letting him walk for first rounders.
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of all the players
Bozak is the one I can’t wait to see play.
i really think Burke has another Getzlaf-esque signing here…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Looking forward to seeing the Leafs early in the season at MSG. I should get a chance to see Kadri in the flesh.
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No
Turns out that part of the reason he played at the end of the year was that he wanted to burn off the first year of the contract.
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For Hanson that’s the way it worked. For Bozak since he didn’t play last year the deal didn’t kick in.
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He could be attempting to parcel off a few of them in hopes of finding that top 6 forward before it happens…could be an idea.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I doubt Burke is going to trade guys that he just got to sign.
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I’d give Kaberle for that in an instant
by theothervatican on Jul 22, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Kadri should be ready for the big-time just as Kessel’s contract expires…
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Kessel doesn’t have a contract right now. If we acquired him I think the Leafs would try and lock him up for five or six years at $5M.
You’re right though, if Kessel becomes a 25 goal guy that contract looks horrible.
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Especially if the cap shrinks. 10%+ of the cap tied up in a small 25 goal man.
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which really isnt related at all
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
That said I watched a lot of Bruins games this year and Kessel is a damn sniper. He has an unbelievable shot and knows when to use it.
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i dont want to take the chance on him not signing, that is a huge worry for me
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
if we always play it safe, and take no risks on players getting better as they mature, then we will develop nothing.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
true, but is a year of Kessel during a developement where the Leafs are projected to finnish on the cusp of the playoffs worth 2 years of kabby?
I say no, if the Bruins can sign him, or the trade is pending a signing, then sure, ill go for it, till then, no thanks
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Kaberle isn’t what I’d give up, but sometimes we need to step out on a limb. If Burke could do it for less, I’d rather have both Kessel and Kaberle. Kessel & Kaberle>>>>Kaberle for Kessel
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
yah, but i dont think boston pulls the trigger unless Kabby is coming back
even so i think those talks are dead anyways
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, Burke is still on hold, listening to muzak, so you never know
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
its a good thing he likes this song
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
music soothes the savage beast
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
nothing like a key-tar and a saxaphone solo to melow the soul
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
bingo ringo
it’s the Leafs disease where x=bad
if we do y then x will happen, but if we do z, then x will happen.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
also known as
Slingo Mingo
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
That is a good point but based on the Leafs’ history you can understand our skittishness.
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definitely, moving a player we know and understand is tough, especially with our track record on trades. But I like to think, Burke was brought in to change that mentality in the team, the fans have to suck it up until it’s a quantifiable failure and that’s the crappy part.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
indeed, whatever Burke does, i trust it, he hasnt given me a reason not to yet
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
probably because
he hasn’t really DONE anything yet… :P
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
but my twitter tells me he’s repeatedly gutted the Swedish league champions…that’s vicious! Truculence!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
haha, well he did get Brad May for free
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
i know
that was a joke for DGB…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
That wouldn’t happen. Either Boston would do a sign and trade or Toronto would finalize the trade in principle and then acquire negotiating rights to Kessel.
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Is there a trade package that Boston would take involving Kessel that doesn’t include Kabby?
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VanRy and Stajan!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I imagine Finger or White being more appealing…and likely a prospect or a pick…or and Stajan…for giggles
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Chiarelli can’t hear those offers because you’re still on hold.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
wouldnt be Finger, they need a vet’ran offensive D man to show the kids what for, and if not Kabby, then VanRy is the only one on the leafs that really qualifies, and being on the same team Looch drops his injury chance significantly
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think VanRy in Boston is a good idea. Last time wasn’t so great for him or those kids in the front row.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
those kids got some awesome, shiney, pointy, souvenirs
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
And a free hospital visit by Milan Lucic!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess if he is going to visite you, its a good idea to already be in a hospital
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I want Kessel. He’s young, can score, has heart. He was ranked number one for a while his draft year and while he dropped because of “attitude” coming back to the NHL after losing a ball shows great attitude. Plus, I am sure Burke knows him from team USA.
But there’s no way in hell Burke gives him an offer sheet.
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by Karina on Jul 22, 2009 11:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There’s the best fucking picture ever of Kessel scoring a goal against Wisconsin, he played for Minnesota they’re blood rivals, and he’s in the corner with his glove to his ear doing the Hulk Hogan “I can’t hear you” to the Wisconsin crowd.
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by Chemmy on Jul 22, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that’s awesome. He and Grabbo would wreak havoc on the Habs.
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And now I’m going to spend all day looking for that picture.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
me to
post it if you find it
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I will.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Kessel Scores vs. Wisconsin … Sorry!
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LOVE it
♥♥♥♥♥ Kessel
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
but who would he play with until then? Poni and Stajan?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Kessel, Kadri, K…?
It could be the klansmen! That would go over well.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Kuelemin!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
and
Kgustavsson in net?
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And Kostala in net!
wait….
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Where’s Trevor Kidd when you need him…..
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 22, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe Burke should trade for Kipper
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
shouldn’t have traded Kubina.
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he’ll he fighting for top cop against newly signed greenop!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
that’s the second time I’ve seen someone imply Deveaux was a tough guy.
Did I miss something last season, or was the Orr signing redundant?
Seems to me he’s Marlies filler…
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Seems to me he’s Marlies filler…
Yup.
by general borschevsky on Jul 22, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Kovalchuk Rumor
You guys see what MLHS is sayin about the possible number of Kovalchuk? How crippling would that be to the Thrasher? ($11.36 per year … no term)
is that the max contract? seems too high to me…
what are the parameters for that again in the CBA? anyone know?
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That contract offer for Kovalchuk is the absolute max salary possible under the CBA (20% of the cap).
I also think if any one man is stupid enough to offer a contract like that, Waddell is that man.
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To be honest I’m starting to wonder if it’s worth paying for truly elite talent. Assume Kessel is a 35 goal guy for $5M. Is it worth paying a 45-50 goal guy $8M? That’s ten goals. Surely turning one of your $1M lower end forwards into a $4M guy would also net you the same improvement in goals for.
There’s a point where you’re paying a lot more money for not a lot more production.
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you’re paying for the name that sells tickets…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I’m sure Ilya Kovalchuk really appeals to the Georgia demographics.
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generally speaking
of course not, but you’d have to ask the Thrashers fans who they pay to go see. However, from the CBA perspective, i’m assuming that’s kind of what that max player contract refers to…
Atlanta’s already proven once it doesn’t support hockey, really hope they get it right this time. Waddell sure doesn’t help matters. That’s a whole other ball of wax though…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The people who still attend Thrashers games are die hards who probably don’t want to see their team spend $11M on anyone.
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luckily, the leafs don’t have to worry about that, so maybe that’s a good reason not to chase the big one.
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For example:
Kessel 36G 24A 60Pts $5M
Hagman 22G 20A 42Pts $3M
Total 58G 44A 102Pts $8M
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It’s ridiculous to think that with possible reduction in the cap, that a team would be willing to handcuff themselves with this kind of contract.
1 player @ $11.2 mil … he is only 4% of the players you need to ice and he is getting 20% of your payroll!
Straight up to get into the playoffs you need to score around 250 goals and allow around 220. Kovalchuk scored 43 goals last year. That’s 17.2 percent of the goals a team needs and he wants 20% of their total payroll?
Important note: even if Kovalchuk scored 50 goals and made the 20% thing line up… you need to pay goaltenders and defense to keep goals out of your net.
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Well put man! Kovalchuk can burry with the best of them, but like you said, last time I checked you needed someone to keep the puck out of your own net too. As great as he may be, he isn’t going to make up 20% of your team in all three zones. At his best, he’s giving you 20% in one.
At his best he’s giving you 17.2% in one.
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I’m with ya, I think Kovalchuk is one of the top 3-5 pure goal scorers in the league, but not only are you drastically overpaying for one guy (doesn’t matter WHO it is), but you’re also making it next to impossible to build a team that’s going to have any kind of reasonable depth.
Ilya Kovalchuk is the NHL’s Dominique Wilkins.
Explosive, exciting, obscenely talented.
Pretty much playing by himself on bad teams.
His talents are often overlooked because of his team’s relative obscurity.
Reputation as a ball/puck hog.
Played his whole career in Atlanta.
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I think that’s what Riseborough was trying to do. He let a few guys looking for big deals walk (Rolston, Demitra) and backfilled by playing the averages.
From an old Globe article:
Risebrough believes that the key to success in the salary-cap era is spreading out risk. So he did that in the off-season, taking the $11.75-million that it cost other clubs to sign Rolston, Demitra and Mark Parrish and spreading it out (plus $1-million more) among five players who have outscored the departed.
Yeah, I know: Risebrough got fired but it doesn’t make this approach any less interesting…
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I like my idea a lot less knowing the Risebrough tried to use it.
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Does it make you feel better knowing it’s currently working wonders out in Anaheim?
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Columbus too. They need Nash for marketing/business purposes but Howson has made a number of really smart moves to “pool the risk”
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The Wild also hired that advanced statistics guy I wonder if that played into Riseborough’s decision.
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Anytime you can get 83% of Ovechkin’s stats for 120% of the cap hit, you have to make that move.
It’s criminal that Waddell still has a job.
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It’s solely because of the ownership litigation from what I understand.
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As an owner, you have to realise that one guy can’t bring you a cup. It might even be worth it for them to trade him and get a shit load of other assets then to dump that kind of cash on a single player. I know hes flashy and I know he brings in fans, but fans will only pay to see a score a higlights reel goal and then lose 5-1 so many times before it looses it’s luster.
The problem is that there is no one owner just two groups arguing about who owns the team so neither side is really in control.
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Ah yes, a problem us Leafs fans are all too familiar with. It’s unfortunate for the Thrashers, they’ve got some good pieces and seemed to be starting to put it all together. Here’s to hoping that this is just interwebz musings.
Birdwatchers Anonymous has some great information on the situation if anyone is interested.
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As an owner you shouldn’t make hockey decisions period. Sign the checks and shut up.
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In 1985, Jim Devellano told Mike Ilitch that NCAA free agents were available just for cash. Ilitch asked how many were NHL ready and Devellano said 7 to 10. Ilitch told his GM to go out and sign all of them.
That’s an owner who’s committed to winning.
And that’s how Detroit landed Adam Oates.
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Ballard would have had them killed
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Other GMs were an angry bunch that the Wings threw big dough at the NCAA kids. Was a big factor in driving up salaries…
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it changed the way teams found players, for better or worse
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Man talk about lame, I went to ESPN.com and saw they had an article on James van Riemsdyk. I went to read it but I need to be an ESPN Insider.
No big deal, since I subscribed to ESPN the magazine last month for $2 for the year precisely so I could read insider articles. Today was the day I’d activate my account for great success.
Logged in to ESPN, filled out my magazine info to activate my account… and got to the credit card screen, where they want CC info so that when my subscription ends they can charge me $3.33 a month. Eh, no thanks. I don’t want to read EJ Hradek that bad.
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so, Chicago’s problems are getting worse….Hossa injured, might need surgery?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 22, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions
http://twitter.com/DownGoesBrown/status/2778344914
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Hey, some cap relief.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 22, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, only took two comments in that TSN piece to work an article about a Hawks forward into a slam on the Leafs – they’re slipping.
Bright shining teams with young cores just a year or two ago, the window is starting to close in Chicago and Philly already.
This is why I’m not worried about Toronto not having “a first line”. We’ll develop one and keep our window of success open longer than three seasons.
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that’s what Chicago did…Toews and Kane, homegrown.
they had Havlat as their top 6 forward FA signing, but he’s gone and they’re still in tight with the cap…
"If you are going through hell, keep going." Sir Winston Churchill, a Leafs fan...
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh huh and the Chicago went crazy signing UFAs and now the future of Kane and Toews along with Chicago’s chance at making a run are in doubt.
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oops
you’re right
forgot about Campbell, Huet etc…
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Pshh. That's just optimistic talk from a Leafs fan
The “1967” chants could start to sting a little more in the near future…
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Do you guys even know how to count in Chicago?
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Also
is there such thing as a “61” chant?
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No one cares enough to bother. Plus, one is one syllable. That just ruins it.
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Guess you could stretch the one if you needed to.
SIX-TY OO-ONE!! (clap, clap, clap clap clap)
Not too shabby.
Being a Leaf fan here requires one to be sufficiently lubricated... and truculent!
what's wrong with
SIX-TEE-ONE
SIX-TEE-ONE
SIX-TEE-ONE
SIX-TEE-ONE
SIX-TEE-ONE
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
dunno
I’ve never heard one.. but I haven’t been to too many road games. PPP is right though, for a long time no one cared about the Hawks but that’s changing
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I don’t think there is such a chant. It was out of curiosity because 67 is everywhere.
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My Team
Universally Hated > no one cares
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jul 23, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
We were 10th in the league in scoring last season. Antropov wasn’t THAT valuable to us, Kaberle only played 57 games and I’d like to see what a healthy Hagman can do in 82 games (22g, 20a in 65 games). I understand the need for the ‘top 3’ player, but I think that we’ve got some coming through the woodwork soon enough. Patience is a virtue.
WAT
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I NEED VOTES!
Pick who you think the COyotes SE Division Rival is/could be. Washington is majorly winning right now.
Atlantic and NE divisions coming soon!
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Carolina for sure.
WHA continues
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Hey Phoenix has a good record against SE. Maybe they should move the team to Kansas City…
by Leaf in Habland on Jul 22, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
WAT?
Somebody’s in twubble.
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WHOA OLLI JOKINEN IS IN MY GCHAT
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Here you go; http://puckthemedia.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/talented-tongues/
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(1-843): just because there's a goalie doesn't mean u can't score
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 22, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
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"If you are going through hell, keep going." Sir Winston Churchill, a Leafs fan...
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by blurr1974 on Jul 22, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
So I was watching old classic Leaf games on Leafs TV today. I found out Kerry Fraser’s most prized possession…an autographed stick from Wayne Gretzky.
Mother fucker.
what do you think the autograph was inked in?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 22, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You know...
It’s nice to know that when I get home from a hard day of work, I can count on all of you to provide me with ideas for things to write about on my blog…
more on everything you all just discussed to follow….
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
where are the royalty cheques?
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I'll let you guys know
When I get royalties…
Actually, I apparently passed on a cash gig earlier this month when I refused to write something for a publication sans contract…
I think that either makes me stupid… or principled… possibly both?
Either way – I’ll go with – the check’s in the mail!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 22, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Naw
Not stupid or principled just possessing of above average expectations.
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