Three Out of Four Maple Leafs Agree...
by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 5:00 AM EDT
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Print...it's definitely Monday. In case you were wondering, the fourth Leaf in the poll was Mike Van Ryn, and it's quite possible he said it was Monday as well, but he's currently in a full body cast after a mishap with a cotton ball. He mumbled something, that's for certain.
I spent all day Sunday at the beach. So, your music Monday will be back next week. I'm burnt to a crisp.
I may or may not (may) have sunburned my feet. So, links?
- Loser Domi transcribed another Leafs chat. I submit for your review, the new term for "mancrush" is "BurkeBack_Mountain."
- JaredFromLondon is doing his best Eklund impression (e5) but with less fairy dust and unicorns.
- MLHS has a pair of links for your perusal: the Zherdev discussion and some point predictions.
- Since we're tossing around rumors and pipe dreams, Puck Daddy takes a gander at Kovalchuk's future in Atlanta.
- The Hockey Writers bring back the 3 point game issue. I know it will never happen, but I'd personally prefer a system much like MLB's "games back" approach. Would it work? I don't know...
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- TSM takes us on a stroll down memory lane, with his top ten Leafs goalies of all time.
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I said it before, that Zherdev could be a possibility for the Leafs. I sure hope we can pick him up through a sign and trade preferably.
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Lazy euro floater, sounds like a Burke player.
He also scored less than Antropov and wants more money. OH BOY.
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yeah, he’s about as Un-Burkian a player as possible in this league. Soft as a limp noodle
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
He is also a top 6 forward. Something we desperately need. He still has room to grow. To overlook him now could be a big mistake, I have a feeling he could be this years breakout player (i.e. Jeff Carter).
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If the rangers walk away, I say throw Grabbo money at him for 2-3 years, no trade
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
if he got awarded 3.9 in arbitration, he won’t take less from us, if the rangers walk away. I imagine he’ll jump to the KHL first anyway
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
isnt that what grabbo is making?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
2.9 I think
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
ah yes, silly me
ok throw Arbitration money at him
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
still not convinced on him, but is there any punishment (do we lose picks) if we sign him?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
No, he becomes a UFA
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I’m willing to take a chance, he has a ton of skill and if he sucks, we can just bury him in the minors
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
if the Rangers walk away he faces an open market, so I think he might end up getting around 4 – 4.5M for around 3/4yrs or something. I’m really hoping hte Rangers do a sign and trade. 3.9M for 2yrs, I’d do that in a heart beat.
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Zherdev 82GP 23G 35A 58Pts (.70PPG)
Stajan 76GP 15G 40A 55Pts (.72PPG)
Poni 82GP 23G 38A 61Pts (.74PPG)
QUICKLY, SOMEONE THROW MONEY AT ZHERDEV SO WE HAVE A “FIRST LINE” PLAYER
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I would like to give eyebleaf his kudos for saving me a seat on the Poni Train Fan Club Express.
I wasn’t a fan at the beginning of this last season, but as soon as Antro was traded away and he linked up with Grabbo and Kulemin, Poni was pure magic.
He’s a definite top 6 guy.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Zherdev, Stajan, Poni
theres our first line!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Poni-Grabbo-Kulemin – 1st
Tlusty-Stajan-Hagman -2nd
Blake-Bozak-Hanson – 3rd
Mitchell-Primeau-Orr – 4th
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
i prefer to keep man-grabs-lemon together,
Tlusty Stajan Poni as the 1B line
I dont see bozak and Hanson making the team out of camp with Stempniak and Walin around (walin bumps stajan up from the third line)
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
forgot
about wallin. crap, you’re right…
still, Poni with Grabbo and Kulemin is what put Poni on a points scoring tear at the end of the season. They need more time together, see if it helps Poni (and more importantly, Grabbo and Kulemin) score with consistency.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
i definetly wouldnt mind seeing poni with the kids, but I really like the way Hags could set em up, but he could also do good work with blake i think
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
poni with grabbo and kulemin
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
that was my favourite game all season
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats one of looking at it, although 3.9M is roughly what he also pay for Stempniak and Mayers, Zherdev is not doubt better than those two combined
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he was run out of CBJ because hitchcock couldn’t turn the kid around from his me first, cherry pick, float around and play no d ways.
Not knocking our coach, but if Hitchcock can’t turn him around (remember, he did have some success turning Modano into a complete two way player after his playing the same style as Zherdev for years…) then no way Wilson can.
Not denying he’s talented, but at best he’s an Alex Kovalev. Skilled when he wants.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
a 2 year contract without a NMC/NTC i could live with though, the Leafs have a pretty staltwart backend and while being a complete player isnt a bad thing A pure offensive forward wouldnt hurt either. And if he doesnt want to play, he sits, we know that Wilson will have no trouble putting his ass in the press box.
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
you're Brian Burke
you’re trying to build a team that competes with “Pugnacity, Testosterone, Truculence, and Belligerence,” so you sign Zherdev…?
You’re Ron Wilson. You want the kids to learn to win together, to compete for each other and play solid two way play, so you give Zherdev top 6 minutes because he’s getting paid to play that way, even though historically speaking, he’s never played the style you want the rest of your team to?
like i said, he’s skilled. He just doesn’t fit the plan…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
which is why i dont advocate a trade for him, if the leafs can get him for only money and retain the ability to dump his ass in the marlies if he decides he wants an on ice vaycation i dont see the problem with taking a chance on a kid with a boat load of skill. If he pans out, yay, if he doesnt, the Leafs arnt in any worse position than they were before.
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
no one could make Blake a team-player on his prior team, but who solved that problem? Ronnie can do it
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I have always hated Jason Blake because whenever we played against his team, he played all out, and left everything on the ice.
I loved when he signed with the Leafs because it meant we didn’t have to play against him anymore.
I could really care less about Zherdev. Truth be told, I don’t think I’ve ever noticed him play in any game he’s been in that I’ve watched. Seriously…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
so is Finger, Komiserek, Blake, VanRyan, Mayers, Toskala etc etc etc
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
So your plan is to add more bad salary because we have some bad salary?
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Also Blake and Van Ryn aren’t overpriced. Blake will be overpriced when he starts to decline but he put up solid numbers last year for his salary range. Van Ryn for $2.9 is a steal if he’s healthy and last year his troubles were due to getting constantly boarded, not his previous wrist problems.
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so a bad contract is a bad contract if the player plays poorlu, but its a good contract when he plays well.
His numbers are comparable to Blakes last year, and Blake is older.
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Blake is a bad contract because of the term. Zherdev is a bad contract because he’s a one dimensional player who doesn’t score enough to justify himself.
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so a player who can put up similar numbers for less, whose contract would expire sooner (no more than 2 years for Zherdev) is a bad contract?
Did I miss out on some fact that Blake is an excellent PK and defensive player?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
We’d need to give assets to the Rangers and then pay $4M for Poni level production.
Blake scored more than Zherdev last year.
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yeah, more, but comparable numbers
and how will the Leafs need to give up assets for Zherdev if the rangers walk?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I doubt they’ll walk on Zherdev. He has trade value at 3.9 to someone.
I just hope that someone isn’t us.
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well yeah, my standpoint on going after him is based off him becoming a UFA, if it doesnt happen, then no dice
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
the same was said about Blake,and he has come along way under Wilson.
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but who were Blake’s previous coaches…?
Zherdev has played for Torterella (cup winning coach) and Hitchcock (cup winning coach)
doesn’t matter, you both can dream all you want. I don’t see Burke signing this guy.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Where are the talented floaters on Burke teams?
Look at Anaheim’s top line of Ryan Getzlaf Perry. Perry is the softest guy there but he’s dirty enough to fit the mold.
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forgetting the Sedins are we?
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You mean the elite scorers? Zherdev can’t carry their jock straps.
Also they’re pretty responsible in their own end.
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agreed, the Sedins are not comparable to Zherdev, they do pretty well when things get bumpy too, they just dont initiate it
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Zherdev – 239 pts over 356 games (0.65 ppg) and a career minus 46.
Daniel (the winger) – 462 pts over 642 games and a plus 80.
in almost twice as many games, Daniel has been on the ice for 308 goals against, while Zherdev, in half the amount of time has already been on the ice for 260 goals against.
Zherdev is a floater and completely disinterested in playing a team game.
And screw the “soft” argument. I guarantee you that any pro-hockey player could whoop any one of our asses if they so desired…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t matter if they could beat us up, they need to beat up NHL players.
If a slick winger can’t get seperation from the D he’s not going to do shit.
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my point being
i can’t call a guy who can kick my ass “soft”
“he needs to play harder,” sure. soft? no…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I can
But only because I’ll never have to say it to his face :)
SOFT SOFT SOFT! ZHERDEV IS SOFT, OVERPAID, LAZY, AND NEVER GOING TO BE A LEAF SO HELP ME GOD.
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Zherdev is soft for sure. I was talking about guys who play in the NHL, not guys who skate around the neutral zone waiting for a break out pass while the rest of his team plays d.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
the ottawa senators?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
That might be the best setup to a “soft” joke ever.
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That’s the problem with Zherdev. He never lived up to his potential so every year people are hoping it’s his break out year. I’m not sure what he did last year to get awarded $3.9M. It must be the whole potential thing again.
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by Hungry Leafs Fan on Aug 3, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
fuck zherdev. keep him far far far away from the leafs. please.
oh, and happy generic civic holiday everyone.
My Points system
If everyone is still tied to this F**King shootout thing (which i have NEVAR been a fan of) then lets make it very simple. Let’s take the carrot away and use the stick.
If you win in regulation or overtime, 2 points. If you win in a shoot out, 1 point.
No points for losing!!! NONE!!! That means 0, that’s right, 0 if you go to overtime/shootout and lose!
Don’t add MORE freakin points and step it down… that’s just crazy soccer talk.
Sorry, This has been a sore spot with me for a long time.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 3, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions
the whole point for losing thing is friggen stupid, end point.
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll agree with the no points for losing. But they have to stop rewarding teams equally for winning in a shootout. What about OT? That’s actually playing the game, still 2 points for the win?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree, I also don’t like how an OT loss is not the same as a loss. When the majority of teams in the league are technically over 500, there is something wrong. ON the shootout, I still don’t understand why its 3 shooters and not 5. That would force teams to rely on more players giving teams that don’t have a superstar topline more of a level playing field, not to mention it adds to the intensity.
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it adds to the showmanship attraction of it, teams will sign and hold onto shootout specialists who arnt really impact players (jussi Joikanin)
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
The NHL could learn a thing or two from the IIHF (except on the subject of fighting), and what about no-touch icing, are we ever going to get that?
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not likely, but we should. I think the old school thought is that the chase to beat an icing is exciting, and the risk of an injury for excitement is fair. badly broken legs and torn ligaments won’t change anything, even the odd broken neck has occurred. Likely someone will have to be killed or at least turned into a vegetable before anyone even truly considers it
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
The OT loss point was awarded because prior to the loss point being awarded teams didn’t dare get scored against in OT.
Now teams play balls out hockey in OT and it’s amazing.
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BUT I submit this… without the point for the OT loss, AND with only awarding ONE point in a shootout…. I think the ‘balls out’ would have to continue, so to speak
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 3, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i like it
i LAIK it a lot….
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
fyi
TSM had a link go up after i hit the hay last night, so it’s been added. The top ten goalies of all time…
Here’s my ten cents on the subject…
CuJo
Eddie the Eagle
Felix the Cat
Bower
Broda
Sawchuk
Palmateer
Parent
McCool (best hockey name EVAR!)
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
ooops
that should say top ten Leafs goalies of all time…
before you all go crazy on me
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
what about Fuhr?
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i only had 10…
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there’s a few others you could swap in as well. call this a personal opinion, nothing more.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
so many good goalies the leafs have had
too bad the most recent ones couldnt have had better teams in front of em
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
What holiday do you jerks have today anyhow?
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The Civic Holiday! WOOOOOO!!!
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One long weekend a month in the summer makes Canadians happy, healthy and wise.
And drunk. WOOOOOO!!!!
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Whatev, I tore it up in Chicago from Thursday until last night.
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Good To Hear
We didn’t have to use vacation days to tear it up this weekend.
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Yah, we don’t even bother naming our extra holidays now, use up too much drinking time.
That’s why it is a ‘Civic’ Holiday..
Oh, and last year in Ontario we started getting the third Monday of February off.. It’s called “Family Day”
Hahahhahahaha
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 3, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, in Toronto it’s Simcoe Day.
But yes, Family Day is straight out of 1984.
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by PPP on Aug 3, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that
has inspired me to change my sig.
far more fitting a Leafs blog me thinks…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s another good one!
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by PPP on Aug 3, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
its one of the main reasons we dont go around starting wars
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Except in Quebec. No holiday here today. Doesn’t matter though cause I have a month off anyway. Woohoo!
by Leaf in Habland on Aug 3, 2009 11:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True, but you got your extra day on St. Jean Baptiste…
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 3, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
“Civic Holiday” where we celebrate Honda’s efficient little compact by getting hammered
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That made me laugh… well done
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The Fraud says the Blue Jackets are making a play for Kabby (e4), I also have another source who confirms this (source not internet based, but has slightly more credibility than Eklud, read not much) and says a forward will be going with Kabby and a roster player and prospect will be coming back…if
take it as you will
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
e4
makes it a JFL2?
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
nope a JfL 2000, my scale is larger and more awesome than Eklunds could ever be
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll wait before it’s a JfL6984 before commenting.
I bet it’s Stajan to replace Malhotra.
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i can haz Brassard plz?
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
if i had to speculate a guess it would be Kaberle and Stajan for Vorachek and Goloublef.
Burke has stated that if he trades Kabby he’s gonna have to find a replacement, and since straleman is gone they have no offensive D in the pipes, Goloublef would fit that need, but is a year or two away.
that would also mean VanRy probably stays
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
if MVR can stay healthy by pairing with Komisarek or Beauchemin, then it’s a great move.
MVR is more than capable of putting up points, and as Chemmy pointed out, last seasons injuries were due to boarding plays, and not “injury pronce” types.
still, i’l believe it when I see it. Vorachek could be an instant top 6 guy…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not a total clearing of Van Ryn’s name, if he was better conditioned and positioned himself better he might not get boarded as much.
It’s not his fault he got boarded but he’s not helping himself out.
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of course people are less likely to board him with Colton Orr 10 feet away instead of Carlo splody bones
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s kind of what I meant.
Kanstopolus had no deterrent to keep him from going full boar into MVR’s back.
not sure about the positioning argument, at least in regards to the above mentioned hit. That was dirty through and through, not a positioning gaff on MVR’s part…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s got to brace for the hit there rather than leaving himself completely vulnerable.
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yah, of course, he shouldnt have to worry about getting a plexi glass facial, but in a game of body contact, you do have to watch yourself, people dont always play nice
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Right. I wouldn’t blame Van Ryn for what happened but there are things he could’ve done.
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he took that hit from Lucic rather well. also, a clean hit.
went through the glass and came out fine (save for the getitoffmegetitioffme hissy fit reaction to the glass in his helmet)
the MTL hit was dirty. he shouldn’t anticipate someone pulling an attempt to injure. getting hit, and getting plastered into the end boards are two different things.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, if you’re going in hard to the end boards you should probably be aware, as an NHL player, that there’s probably someone right behind you and brace in case they throw a dirty hit or just lose an edge.
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yeah, not to mention, elbows and sticks fly everywhich way when your fighting for the puck along the boards and its not always intentional
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm going to assume
you both need a reminder of the hit.
two forearms to the back of the head while coming in full steam.
and it’s MVR’s fault because he was playing the puck and not bracing for a head shot?
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No one said it was his fault. I specifically said it wasn’t his fault.
However, watch Van Ryn, right before he gets drilled he straightens up and pivots a little bit. He needs to play the puck, get low and wide to absorb impact and move on.
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sorry, but the guy got injured on a dirty play. nothing he could have done beyond not being the guy playing the puck in that scenario, would have saved him from injury.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
“full boar’- the perfect sentiment for those pigs on the Habs.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
the perfect sentiment for thosepigspiglets on the Habs.
Fixed, they are too small to be pigs.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 3, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed, i dont put much stock in it happening, but as you all know i love to dream
it would still leave the leafs without a first line center though, but would open the door for JMFM or Bozak to step into a top 6 roll
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t see Mitchell as a top 6 guy, ever.
I think Wallin will help Mitchell progress into a shut down checking line center.
Bozak is going to be a top 6 guy. I hope…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i can see Mitchell on the second line as spot duty, its definetly not a permenant posting by any standard, Bozak or another prospect would be expected to step into it at some point, i just dont know how NHL ready the kids are.
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Mitchell needs to flourish in a Travis Moen esque role. He needs to hit hard, backcheck hard and shut down opponents’ top guys. I think in a few years we’ll see Kulemin and Mitchell as key cogs in a very effective third line.
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I can see Kulemin as a solid second liner or a very good third liner, either way, it workws
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m hoping for a Kulemin a Blake/Hagman type of role.
he can play two way hockey and put up points. as capable on a second line role as a third line.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 3, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, very versatile, can put up the points, but can also play the PK
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Mitchell looks like a guy who will top out at 20 goals, so if he can get on the defensive centre plan he’ll have a good future. I think we hope Bozak is a top 6 guy
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yah, agreed, currently though, who else are we gonna throw in as a top two center behind grabbo if Stajan goes and Bozak needs some AHL time?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully someone new, but he’ll play spot time there. Injuries are always a moment for someone guy to prove he is more than what most of us think.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but in said deal with the Jackets, the only first line center i can see Burke being interested is Brassard, and I am pretty damned sure he wont be coming back
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I doubt they would let go of a cheap high potential prospect/young player to crest too soon. No one wants to chicago up a mess with the cap
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, plus Brassard has insane amounts of potential, his hockey sense and playmaking abilities are spectacular, he is as close to a sure thing as there is. I dont see Filatov moving either
Voracheck is the only other forward from columbus that i see matching both Burkes criteria and the BJs
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Rome wasn’t built in a day. We don’t have a contender even if all our prospects pan out.
Next year we’ll draft more kids. We’ll keep developing players until we have tons of good young talent.
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exactly, no point tossing money around on low effort russian kids who might pan out. Develop the kids, move out the dead wood and just be patient. The team will improve if we let them have the time. The impatience of management, owners and fans haven’t helped to this point, maybe its time to try a different tact
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
the Leafs actually have three very good potential NHL centers in the system right now in Stefanovic, Kadri and Dido, so eventually a top center could pop right out in the system, could be nice
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
also Bozak
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
he is dreamy
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=286623
Vancouver Canucks forward Alex Burrows could be facing charges stemming from an on-ice incident in a Montreal summer hockey league game.
According to a report on RDS.ca, an investigation is underway in response to a complaint filed on July 21 that states Burrows violently struck the face of a goaltender with his stick during a game at the Excellent Ice Arena in Kirkland, Que.
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yikes
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
dang…I thought players weren’t allowed to play hockey for kicks in the off season. Insurance problems and such, written into the contract
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 3, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
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