It's The Dog Days of Summer...
In the past, when an article like Aaron Portzline's preview of the Leafs' upcoming season was written we'd whip out the Cox Bloc sign and 24 hours later we'd be laughing at their ability to relate everything to classic 80s WWF storylines and the many ways in which they were able to point out a writer's flaws. Sadly, disillusionment at the mittenstringers' ability to continue producing the same content in the face of Cox Bloc's withering ripostes combined with the fear that they had met their match when I got press credentials has led Jorn and Till to look for other projects.
Their absence has led out-of-town mittenstringers becoming emboldened and offering their half-baked impressions on the local hockey team. This article by Aaron Portzline is exhibit A in the argument against ever telling reporters that media critics are pulling out of the internet. They'll just lie in waiting until they know that the coast is clear before attacking. But Cox Bloc didn't leave us completely unequipped:
We did 2 years, it’s someone else’s turn.
That’s right, Cox Bloc is ALL OF YOU.
/slowclap
So without further ado I'll put on my Cox Bloc mask and pray that Till cleaned it out after the going away party:
Now in the 43rd year of a rebuilding process, the Toronto Maple Leafs have turned to American-born general manager Brian Burke to bring the Stanley Cup "home" for the first time since 1966-67. He's the 11th Leafs GM since the Cup was hoisted in Hogtown.
Dear God. Is that really how you are going to start this out? Are you that sure that the Leafs won't win the Stanley Cup this season? You might do well to read this post and then you can compare that to the Blue Jackets' playoff record. I am obviously not a fan of the idea that you can't criticise other teams when yours has been a laughing stock for almost its entire history otherwise we'd never hear from senators fans and that's some good comic relief that we'd lose. However, four conference finals in a decade suggests that at some point a team of some quality was built.
But while the Leafs have gotten noticeably tougher they also added forward thumper Colton Orr they still have a massive shortage of goal-scoring.
The Leafs' were 10th in goals for last season. It's true. I know that because I can navigate NHL.com which I can do because I don't live in Columbus.
Toronto fans would bitch about the Leafs if they went 80-0-2.
If they got 80 wins then why couldn't they win those other two? I think that's a fair complaint. Good thing for the Blue Jackets that their fan is so understanding.
But the expectations have been lowered a tad by the club's failing to make the playoffs since the lockout that wiped out the 2004-05 season.
Mostly, the folks are glad to have a club with a little swagger. And they're glad to finally be headed in the right direction.
Hey, if you can't beat 'em, beat 'em up, right?
First, why is every sentence a new line? Is there a new style guide that bloggers are not allowed to read that does away with paragraphs? Not to mention that it's not about beating them or beating them up. It's about reviving Conn Smythe's dream to do both:
You can't beat them on the ice if you can't beat them in the alley
But yes, overall we are pretty happy that the Leafs might not serve as bodychecking practice dummies for the rest of the league.
There are some candidates to move up Mitchell, Kumelin and prospect Jiri Tlusty, for instance but scoring goals is going to be a major issue for this club.
10th overall in goals scored. It's still true. Over/Under on the number of reporters that mention this fact during preview season: 2.5. I am taking the under.
The third and fourth lines are no problem. Lots of grinders and heart and soul types, especially if they can resign restricted free agent Ryan Hollweg.
That sentence started out so insightfully and then he mentioned Ryan "don't turn your back to me" Hollweg.
The bottom two lines will have to chip in some scoring, but they'll also have to provide some intimidation. Outside of Ponikarovsky, who plays smaller than his 6-5, 220 pound frame, the Leafs are tiny on the top two lines.
Here's a one-word explanation for why the top six have nothing to worry about: Truculence. In fact, that should read "TRUCULENCE!!!1". The additions of some really big men to flank Our Luke and Saviour will hopefully deter teams from their current practice of taking numbers before lining up to run over our smaller forwards.
The shocker as of July 29 is that Burke hasn't been able to unload Kaberle via trade. There was talk a year ago that Philadelphia would have traded get this Jeff Carter and a No. 1 pick for Kaberle, but Kaberle wouldn't waive his no trade clause. Ugh.
Low blow Portzline. Low blow. The real shocker isn't that Burke hasn't been able to unload him (hint: he could do it anytime) but that no team that fancies itself a contender has come up with a good enough offer.
That he's still in Toronto makes it possible for the Leafs to have a truly special blue line. Komisarek and Beauchemin are physical and mobile, and Schenn is quickly joining that group. Kaberle, Van Ryn and Finger are regarded as puck-movers. That's three good pairs right there.
Exelby figures to be the No. 7, which is a pretty good set-up. Frogren and/or White is expendable.
Hey, I like what this guy is selling. Maybe I was a bit hasty is picking this article to give the old Cox Bloc'ing.
A .891 save percentage last season simply wasn't good enough. The NHL median save percentage was .905. If Toskala had sustained that save percentage, he would have allowed 22 fewer goals last season.
That would have brought the Leafs down from 286 goals against to 264 before counting the impact of an improved penalty kill and better defence. Hmmmm...
Gustavsson is a beast, at 6-3, 195 pounds. He's had two very good seasons in Sweden's top league, and many think he's ready to be the next Henrik Lundqvist.
I feel like this optimism on his part is a trap so that he can write a 'look at what the dummy Leaf fans believe" story.
Burke never rests, never stops looking for another move, so it's reasonable to assume more could be on the horizon.
Well, except for those back-to-back vacations he never rests. I hope that he doesn't end up like Dubya with almost half of his tenure being spent on vacation. Well, I guess he could earn it as long as the other half of the time isn't spent being incompetent.
The Leafs need to move another defenseman. If it's Kaberle, they could get a top six forward in return, which would be a huge help.
Actually, the Leafs do not need to move another defenceman. They probably want to do so but with Stralman gone (dammit) it's much easier to fit all 15 of their defencemen into the lineup.
The Leafs are probably one year away from being playoff caliber, and at least that from being an Eastern Conference playoff threat.
So that's why he led with the extra year of futility...
Don't expect lots of wins or high-scoring games for these Leafs. But with the infusion of big, competitive players, there will be fireworks. The Leafs won't be pushed around.
The Maple Leafs were 10th in the league in goals for last season. That means that 20 teams scored fewer times than them. I don't think that I can emphasise that enough.
The rebuilding has spread into its fifth decade. But the Leafs finally appear to have a plan in place, and they seem to be going in the right direction.
Lazy, lazy, lazy...but for reasons that will be clear soon enough I heartily endorse that conclusion. Aside from his inability to recognise that the Leafs were 10th in league scoring (it's true) Portzline doesn't actually do too bad of a job for someone that lives in Columbus. He didn't use any ethnic slurs or lose a title game in embarrassing fashion so maybe he commutes. So what if Portzline starts out weak with the usual 1967 barbs and some typical rips on the team's fanbase for their devotion. It's always sad to see writers have to resort to those kinds of crutches but then again they tend to hold onto those tighther than Wellfed holding on to a drumstick.
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10th in scoring
last year.
He’s writing about THIS year … remember?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
except in november, then it matters
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Right...
but not in April or March.
Those games fall during WCH vacation to California time, so they’re less meaningful.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
mmm kool-aid
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s the same song and dance every year and every year the Leafs’ can score. They lost Antropov and Moore. I feel comfortable in saying that the drop-off isn’t going to be precipitous. The Leafs’ offensive woe is that they do not have consistent goal scoring threats. I’d give that as a valid criticism.
Their real problem is that they haven’t gotten NHL-calibre goaltending.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Toskala’s Stats when he plays in front of a real defence would indicate otherwise. The Leaf’s poor quality defenders and penalty killing made life pretty difficult for Toskala last year.
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Thanks for joining.
Toskala being terrible also didn’t make things easy for himself. The defence and PK were obviously deficient but anyone that watched Toskala with regularity can attest that he stunk as well.
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We lost Antropov, Moore, Kubina, Williams, Devereaux, Steen, Stapleton and Hamilton
A murderers row I know, but they still provided the Leafs with 64 of their goals last season.
They haven’t been replaced with much.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I guess we’ll just have to hope the bolstered defense is able to stop 100 more
also where would the leafs have placed scoring wise without those 64 goals?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
64 of 244
That’s 26% of our offence… gone… poof
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
But we won’t lose all 64 goals.
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Agreed
We just have to figure out where the necessary 30 or so are coming from.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I've got
Tlusty, and Bozak down for 10-15 each. I’ve got Grabovski and Kulemin for an extra 5 each… that’s 30ish…
If we can get another 30 out of the rest of the roster we’ll be fine.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
i think Poni might have a career year this season. probably add at least 5 more to his usual output
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
if the Poni, Kulemin Grabbo line can click like they did on some nights last year then they should get another 5 each
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
you all feel that…?
optimism, how i missed you.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i dunno, that got him in some internet trouble last time
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
exactly, we’ll get at least 5 out of beauchemin, Komiserek and Exelby
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
5
total…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
6 if we throw Orr in there
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
They'd have finished dead last
180 would have put them 30th… 10 behind Colorado.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
encouraging
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
because if Antropov, Moore, Kubina, Williams, Devereaux, Steen, Stapleton and Hamilton were out of their lineup their replacements would have produced 0 goals
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Actually
When you think about who would be replacing Stapleton and Hamilton you begin to realize that last statement is kinda true.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Players with ZERO goals last season
Ben Ondrus, Kris Newbury, Andre Deveaux, Carlo Colaiacovo, Jay Harrison, Ryan Hollweg, Jamie Sifers, Jiri Tlusty
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
i was just going to go look for that.
my thought was, the guys we’d have called up as replacements very well could have been capable of scoring 0
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Out of those which of them do you think will be in the Leafs lineup come October?
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Tlusty
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. I’m pretty sure he can pop in a couple this year when he plays more than 14 games and methinks that this Bozak guy could score a couple as well
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like I said
I’m pencilling them both in for 10 to 15. That still leaves another 30+ goals to make up.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I’m not disagreeing with you that we have a lot to make up. I’m just pointing out that you can’t just remove the 64 goals and saying we’d be 30th.
A Nation of Masochists The waiting is the hardest part but the truculence helps.
I'm not that obtuse
Just making the point that they haven’t added any offensive players to compensate up front.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
to exhale?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
in the hopes that Burke’s not done yet.
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Ah... welll
we’re running out of cap space if he doesn’t trade a more expensive part for a cheaper part.
Not sure how that will help the offense.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
worst case scenario, Taylor Hall!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think we’ll be even close to being that bad.
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thats why its worst case (for goal scoring anyways,real worst case is a 9th finish)
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
1 pt out and having our playoff dreams coming down to a shootout between a playoff team playing their backup goalie and another team trying to squeeze in.
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God forbid this season we miss the playoffs, get a good draft pick and continue developing players.
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I don't really mind
If it works out that way.
What I don’t want to see is them playing veterans in some desperate bid to make the playoffs when they should be developing younger guys.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Correct. That’s why I’m not worried about not having a goal scoring threat.
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Well
I’d like them to have a goal scoring threat, I just don’t care if he’s 19 or 20 and has a hard time fighting his way through NHL checking this early in his career.
See – Stefanovich, Mikhail, or Stålberg, Viktor
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
if through trades of defensemen ( i think at least one is coming) im pretty sure Burke can bring back 20 goals
but that is nothing but speculation
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't that the plan with Stralman?
And we brought back Primeau… he of the 0 goals.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I like to think that Vanryan, White and possiblky (but less and less likely each day) Kaberle will bring back something more potent than the lesser Primeau
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Van Ryn
Is too injury prone, and trading away White to add salary doesn’t make sense when he’s only making $850 K
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
VanRyan would be going as a peice of a larger deal if he went, me thinks, same with white, i could see either going to a cap strapped team for salary
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Except
Right now the Leafs are getting close to the cap. I don’t see the whole taking on salary thing working anymore. We spent most of our cap space away.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
not too worried about it, Id actually be more than happy to get nothing but Picks and prospects (as long as they are good) back for all three
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I think at this point
Burke is happy with his D, and he’ll work towards finding offense over the course of the season and into next year.
We’re not planning parades for this season, which is fine.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
agreed, I dont like having NHL ready and capable defense sitting in the minors though
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh...
Detroit’s been doing it for years and it’s worked out ok for them.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I’m pretty sure we have a lot of cap space, ignoring bonus payments (which is only a good problem).
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No with the bonus payments
We only have $2.1 million left at this point… depending on who makes the final roster.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
according to Cap Geek
but I’ve had some issues with how many different numbers are floating around frankly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Some sites still erroneously count bonuses towards the cap when they shouldn’t be unless they are met.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
In the last year of the CBA the bonuses count against the cap immediately. Since this isn’t a final year of the CBA the bonuses only count against the cap if they are achieved. If they put the team over the cap this year then they come out of next year’s cap.
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With bonuses and using our top six most expensive defenders I have the Leafs with $5M in cap space.
If bonuses aren’t met and if someone like Van Ryn gets moved that’s a whole new ball game.
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The bonus cushion
Can’t exceed 7.5% of the cap… so it’s only going to shift out $4.26 million at most.
You’re factoring that in?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
bonuses are
$3M and change.
i think we’ve got close to $6M in cap space
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I used CapGeek.com’s list. They had nine of our defenders counting against the cap.
I unselected the bottom three in terms of cap hit and ended up with 4.9 in cap space.
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Well I penciled Tlusty in for 55, meaning Bozak, Hanson, and Beauchemin need to combine for 9 to tie our output from last year.
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Well, you have to factor in the goals scored by the people we brought in to the team. How many did Komi score last year? How many did Stempniak score before he was traded etc.
by theothervatican on Aug 5, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
stemp had 13 points in 14 games, no idea how many where goals
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Stempniak
Had 11 goals in 61 games, which he added to the total ever so quietly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Komisarek, Beauchemin, Exelby, Primeau and Orr last season
scored a combined 6 goals.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Sweet. 10% of the missing output!
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from 5 guys...
…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Antropov and Kubina accounted for
35 of the lost goals.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I find it easier to deal with sarcasm
by pretending it’s not even there…. then people point out they were being sarcastic and I can keep talking.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Yeah. That’s how I deal with Poes.
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Beauchemin scored 4 of them to boot.
and, he only played in 20 games…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok so Beauchemin
replaces Kubina… that’s a wash… if he’s healthy.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
hoping
he played all 82 games the season prior.
he’s good for about 20 points, but his ACL better be all healed
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
He looked great in the playoffs for Anaheim.
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He only had 1 point though
Though it was a goal.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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He skated well. The goal scoring will probably come back to him.
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as long as he smashes things, ill be happy with the pickup
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
He had a knee injury, I’d be more worried if it was a wrist problem like Van Ryn’s.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
if my imagined Truculence quota is met, I will call this season a success
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
wow…..i cant believe i nailed that
woo guessing!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Those guys scored goals pretty much by virtue of being in the line-up. It’s not like the players replacing them are any worse at scoring. Of all of those guys, the only one who might be considered a strong independent goal scorer is Antro. Goals will come.
by Leaf in Habland on Aug 5, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
But what about Dominic Moore?
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thats all smashed hamster baby
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
First, why is every sentence a new line? Is there a new style guide that bloggers are not allowed to read that does away with paragraphs?
Aaron Portzline is a graduate of Bill Plaschke’s Hollywood Upstairs School of Column Writing.
I believe his major was Phoning It In, with a minor in Russian Spelling.
He writes for a paper largely read by graduates of THE Ohio State University.
“THE Ohio State University” is the “Go Flyers!” of post-secondary institution.
So this writing style isn’t 100% because Portzline sucks, per se.
It’s annoying, for sure., but he has to tailor his wiritng style to his audience.
And graduates of THE Ohio State University can’t comprehend multilpe sentences at once.
Otherwise, their heads are likely to explode, “Scanners” style.
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First, why is every sentence a new line? Is there a new style guide that bloggers are not allowed to read that does away with paragraphs?
Yes! That’s something that has driven me absolutely bats for a long time now. Don’t newspapers have editors anymore?
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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
it looks better in newsprint
on the internet, long paragraphs look fine, but in newsprint (you know the dead tree paper that you use to line your bird cage) long grafs look big and bulky. hard returns look prettier/are easier to read. in school i was actually taught to write short grafs.
Why not just use all pictures instead? This world really is going to hell in a handbasket. God forbid the newspaper convey actual well-formed thoughts, structured to convey an opinion, argument or state of affairs; let’s all be content with pretty looking sentences, bereft of meaning.
/waves cane
Get off my lawn!
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by jrwendelman on Aug 5, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent post...
Rec’d that shit.
Also: PLAYOFFS!!!!1
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PLAYOFFS!!!!1
holy shit, where the hell have you been?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
So let's say
They aim for 20th in the NHL. That’s still 224 goals. They’d need to make back 40 of the goals they lost.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
ok, so say it goes like this
Tlusty – 10
Beauchemin – 5
Komiserek – 2
Orr – 1
Bozak / Hanson – 10
Grabbo / Kulemin / Stempniak – 10
thats 38 more goals i think is reasonable to expect from the current team
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
also another 5 or so out of a healthy hagman
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Grabovski scoring 10 goals will help us?
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those are added to last years totals
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
IE i think it is not too much to expect the combination of Grabbo, kulemin and Stempniak to add 10 goals to their respective total
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't see all of 3
of Grabbo, Kulemin, and Stempniak adding 10 goals.
If they do that’s awesome… but I don’t think it’s likely.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
i do
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh...
well in that case ignore my statement.
I think it’s not ENOUGH of an increase.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
no, its a low estimate, trying to reign in some of my over exuberant optimism
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year it was the absence of Sundin that was going to bury the Leafs’ offence. This year it’s Antropov, Moore, and Kubina.
Do you think that there aren’t 40 goals to be found among the newcomers and improvements to existing players?
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure he can take 800 shots in a season
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If it can be done
He is the one to do it.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
of course he can, if you count 40 foot writsters into the crest as shots, he’ll have 300 of those easy
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
he hopes to leave a puck, but forgets to realize his wrister is not Clark quality
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
8% shooting is a little bit of stretch, but sure…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He will, and he will spin around for each. And. Every. One.
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Aug 5, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
65 more goals?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes...
Giving him 90. 4 away from the NHL record.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
woops make that
3 away from the record.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
No – just 65 total.
STEMPNIAK, on the other hand, should be good for an extra 65….
Leaf, the universe and everything.
thats the spirit!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
who?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
damn, beat me to it
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
who?
(let’s see how far back you can go)
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8th overall kids!
8th OVERALL!!!
Brandon Freaking Convery.
Luckily the Leafs traded for the 4th overall pick from the same 1992 draft – Todd Warriner.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
and the 18th overall pick
Jason Smith.
Man we OWNED that 1992 draft.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Ironically the guy we dealt away
who won a Stanley Cup – Grant Marshall… was also a 1st rounder for the Leafs.
God we are so AWESOME.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I always thought we should have kept him, his truculence factor was very solid
Being a Leaf fan here requires one to be sufficiently lubricated... and truculent!
Actually
So was Jason Smith’s… and in German terms Todd Warriner is truculent – he led the DEL in penalty minutes this past season.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Hey
Remember when we drafted Convery and he was going to be awesome…?
Me neither.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Well you see
Last year I was arguing losing Sundin wouldn’t hurt much… mainly because I felt there were veteran players who would step up with increased ice time.
Now all of those guys have gotten increased ice time or they’re gone.
This is a lot different. We’ve lost a lot more than one guy.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Replacing 30 goals
Is a lot easier than replacing 64.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I'm not saying it won't happen
I just think we’ll be closer to 20th in the NHL this year than 10th.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
probable, the Leafs will more than likely loose a good percentage of their offence as they currently stand, but it wont be as bad as 64 goals less is all
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Optimism
Tlusty is going to have a ridiculous year. I’m looking for Zherdev-esque numbers 25-30-55 type stuff. I really feel like this kid is a legit top six after watching the final dozen or so Marlies games.
You mean the Marlies games
Where they were kicked out of the first round of the playoffs against Manitoba and couldn’t be Corey Schneider to save their lives?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Jiri Tlusty is expected to score so much in the AHL that the rest of his dump team can coast and they’ll still win?
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Don't get me wrong
I like Tlusty and think he’ll be a top performer in years to come.
I’m just not expecting him to suddenly put up David Krejci like numbers on a team that’s way thinner than Boston’s was last year.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
not with that attitude he wont!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
David Krejci is pretty awesome.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He was playing on a line
with Stapleton, and it wasn’t like the rest of the team was entirely dump.
They had demoted Stralman and Frogren, and they had Boyce, Foster, and Stålberg playing for them. They weren’t all that different from the team that had made the conference finals the year before. Unless you count losing David Ling as a huge drop off in talent.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I think that’s reasonable. Let’s hope Tlusty’s hot finish to the season last year translates.
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He wasn't that hot in the playoffs
1 goal and 2 assists in 6 games to go along with a -3 rating in game number 5. That’s the one I watched live… pissed me right off.
Regular season was good though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
That was in the playoffs against the top team in the conference. He might get more room in the regular season.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh he will
Especially with the new Leafs blue line and Colton Orr riding shotgun.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I cant wait till Orr turns some Hab into paste for running Grabbo
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
hello new person. Are you here from talk640?
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No, I’ve been reading the blog for a long time but just joined the conversation today. Avid reader though.
Ah. Well it’s always good when the lurkers join.
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I never had the chance to be a lurker. PPP yelled at me as soon as the site was up that I should join.
:’(
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i think the only person to beat me here was Karina
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I only found this place last year when I started working and needed to kill time by surfing the interwebs.
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Yeah
That worked out awesomely.
“Hello Mr. History Man, I liked your first fanpost a lot. Feel free to ask for help formatting any future ones”
“Ok”
/200 Fanposts later…
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
473 posts later and I haven’t been sued for slander.
There’s always next season!
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its nice to have goals
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as you’ve got some goals!
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i detect a new meme
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought we were counting on that guy who’s wearing jeff jackson’s number to pop in a few.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
who?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
LEE “MANEATER” STEMPNIAK!!!!1
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the blue & white ninja strikes again!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
STEMPNIAK STRIKES SILENTLY IN THE NIGHT.
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like herpes
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Stempniak transmitted infection?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
nice one.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
this isnt a goal having race!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a trivia one I never posted rattling around somewhere. Must find it.
Some year or other I’ll apply for the masthead.
Oh yes – formatting – how does one get a table to be left-justified? That has proven irksome.
Leaf, the universe and everything.
Some year or other I’ll apply for the masthead.
Application approved. Check your email.
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Spockian eyebrow raised
OK, I did.
It’s full of spam.
(spam, spam, spam, spam…..)
Leaf, the universe and everything.
I didn’t email you yet.
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Phew. That means you aren’t some Facebook app or a place offering Canadian meds at a discount….
Leaf, the universe and everything.
I added my email to my profile, just email me quick with your good email.
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Ummm
Let me look at the HTML.
Also, I think that the e-mail that you post on your profile is your spam collecting one right?
Can you e-mail me: pensionplanpuppets at gmail dot com? – no question mark.
Thanks.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
and WELCOME!!!
thanks for joining
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, thanks for joining. If you have any questions don’t hesitate to ask.
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I have a question.
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PLAYOFFS!!!!1
I'm not a fan of hands up
Even if they do insist on it in most classrooms… I feel it leads to awkward silences in the class room environment.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Meet me in the CC. I have some questions for you.
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YES, TELL ME YOUR QUESTION
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dont you mean “ask me your question”?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Hehehe got corrected on grammar by Jared. You just Karina’d yourself.
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Welcome
Thanks for joining.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome to the tribe!
As per new community rules; all signature tags on PPP must contain the word "truculent".
(843): the red head has a bf
(1-843): just because there's a goalie doesn't mean u can't score
by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
round these parts she is known as princess game thread
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i also run Die Hard Blue And White which you may or may not be familiar with
probably not
/shamless plug
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That plug was worse than the thounsand or so on Kerry Fraser’s head.
Wings fan by birth. Leafs fan by truculent osmosis.
zing! I still think Jared would have seen the highstick though
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahw thanks kitten.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
A new member on the site, and already got the “!!!!1” down pat.
Fucking love it.
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Jeff Finger is regarded as a puck mover?
Down Goes Brown - Unapologetically nostalgic for the past. Brutally realistic about the present. Grudgingly optimistic about the future.
He played the PP in Colorado his last year
with them before signing in Toronto. He scored 8 goals and had 19 points. Then last year he had 6 goals and 23 points, without getting much, if any, PP time.
Beauchemin is a puck mover because he gets 28 and 21 points? Finger isn’t?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Actually yeah.
He led the Leafs D in Even Strength scoring last year.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
that is actually disturbing to me
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
the puck moves when he is around i guess
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Finger is regarded as apuckpiano mover.
Fixed
jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog
"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
I bet that Finger and Stempniak could run a piano moving business in Toronto and not get recognized.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
People would notice something was up when they only saw one guy moving a piano.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
and he charged twice his worth to do it
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
if you saw one guy lugging pianos, you’d tip him well.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a real business in Boston:
http://www.deathwishpiano.com/
DEATH WISH PIANO MOVERS
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Their trucks are all black and say DEATHWISH on the front, above the cab. 100% badass.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 6, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Wholly Crap!
It’s like an all-star blog-fest in here! DGB, Sports and the City, Chemmy, PPP. All my favorites under one roof… err… whatever is analagous to a computer’s roof….
no one reads my stuff
=(
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
(kidding you know I love you)
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well it doesnt hurt to hear it more often
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i love you too.
i love all of you.
i love everybody.
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Hopefully you don't mean children
Because I think that might be illegal.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I meant the PPP community, man!
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If they’re old enough to… never mind.
Being a Leaf fan here requires one to be sufficiently lubricated... and truculent!
if they’re old enough to blog they’re old enough to snog?
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Archives are awesome.
A Nation of Masochists The waiting is the hardest part but the truculence helps.
Well, thanks, there’s a Jordan with the Wizards like comeback dropping this fall. (new site though).
Didn’t Jordan suck with the Wizards? Didn’t he have a huge dropoff? Didn’t his teams fail to accomplish anything?
Hey. What exactly are you setting us up for?
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Under promise, over deliver!
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a much better way of describing the comeback :)
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You already know it! And I am saving it for your incadescent return.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Mr. Fletcher, is that you?
jrwendelman
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give me 5 bees for a quarter
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
tie an onion of your belt, as it was the style of the time
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
the ceremony is in november…as expected.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
any other time, why bother?
Identical to Sergei Berezin in every way, only 1/10 his size.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Aug 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You obviously have skipped my blog
Which is fine… but You’re now on my list of people to kill.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Quick! Call Steve before he gets his killing lipstick on!
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm using the lipstick
to cross people off the list… I’ll put it on before I leave the house.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
AHHHH!!!!
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
As the worst blogger included on that list: boooyah
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you’re a blogger…?
have you written anything I’d recognize?
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
You may remember me from such dick and fart jokes as
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Darcy Tucker Fan Club for life.
MF37 is a card carrying member.
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I’m still at a loss as to why PPP read my old blog and then said “this is someone I want to write for my nice new site”.
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cocaine’s a helluva drug?
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
IT’S CAUSE YOUR SITE WAS AWESOMEEEEEE
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It was awesome when Darcy Tucker was awesome.
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It was a mixture of your comments on various websites and a desperate need for help.
Also, cocaine IS a helluva drug.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Also true.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This is pretty much the Leaf blogging hub.
As per new community rules; all signature tags on PPP must contain the word "truculent".
(843): the red head has a bf
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What I don't get is
What the hell all of you do for a day job? I’m on vacation so I can actually waste copious amounts of time NOT working in here.
The rest of you? Tell me where you work so I never go there.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I’m the head air traffic controller at JFK.
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I’m in charge of listeria clean up at Maple Leaf Foods
Being a Leaf fan here requires one to be sufficiently lubricated... and truculent!
I’m George W. Bush’s speech writer.
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I’m in charge of new product development for an American car manufacturer. Go Flyers!
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by Chemmy on Aug 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
hahaha!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I work for one of the big 6. I’ll be in your profession soon though.
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Big 6 what?
And I assume you mean teaching.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
or Big 5. The Banks. I’m in compliance and yes I did mean teaching. I’m heading to Queen’s in a month for teacher’s college. CC Talk.
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Ok I'm going to feel stupid typing this
But how the hell do I “CC talk”. If this is SB Nation related I’m not in the know.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
non-hockey talk etc.
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it’s a recurring fanshot
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2009/8/5/978066/chatty-cathy-august-5-2009
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
CC refers to “Chatty Cathy” our daily off topic thread. We talk hockey on the front page and generally Mabel tries to lure Jared and SkinnyFish into her trap in the Fanshots.
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honey is delicious
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
head of complicated medicine at the London Health Sciences center
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would you come to my mom’s basement to begin with?
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I’d like to check it out after spending so much time in her bedroom.
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by furcifer on Aug 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
SOMEONE IS GOING TO DIE AND HIS NAME IS FURCIFER
Too bad you’ll never get to Queens.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I did my undergrad
at Queen’s… lots of people that kill end up in Kingston
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
So did I. Queen’s Represent!
And yes, a lot of murderers end up in Kingston. Not too many dead people do though. Keep that in mind furcifer.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
noted my “benevolent” overlord
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PPP doesn’t even ban people who come here and insult up the joint.
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I ban people I don’t like.
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I just close threads so morons stop trolling.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I laugh when guys just keep coming back for more on your threads.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
trolls are a resilient race
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I give them a written lashing in public and private and dare them to retort. You’ll notice that jack24 decided it wasn’t worth getting embarrassed again.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t Chemmy ban him?
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maybe one day we can do a mouth breathers anonymous post from PPP comments!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I nominate bostonblueline and his phone call discussion.
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kidkawartha and I are supposed to be working on one for boston fans.
I certainly do think that that discussion could be included.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 5, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear God
I hope not.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
well, after 2 years of SBN PPP we’re only about half a post done, and most of em arnt even that bad
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
jack24 isn’t allowed to visit here anymore. He gets a page with a swear word on it instead.
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ahw, he was fun
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
just because he’s benevolent doesnt mean his assassins are
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s why he can be benevolent, cause his assassins are badass!
Being a Leaf fan here requires one to be sufficiently lubricated... and truculent!
yes, yes we….i mean they are
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Queens Represent?
Sounds like someone is planning a different kind of parade route altogether.
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Aug 5, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not “Queens”, Queen’s!
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oh snap
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'ddddddd.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
TVO – Makes You Think
I’m on vacation right now too. But when I’m on vacation, I don’t spend a lot of time here. It’s weird.
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PLAYOFFS!!!!1
I have two monitors at work. SUCCESS!!!1
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I freaked out, joined the army, went into business for myself, I’m a professional killer.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
Explains so much
You hang out with John Cusack and Billy Bob Thornton when they visit so you can lie down on the tarmac together don’t you!
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
too much of that can get you arrested PPP…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahahaha people are going to think we hate Columbus.
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wait, we like Columbus?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
why? pity? or Nash fantasies?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he is dead to me
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
understandable.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
or at least cancel a chatty cathy
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Devils annoy me
I find it frustrating how they keep reloading so effectively. Mattias Tedenby should make their team next year. He’s a midget but he’s super skilled.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
yeah, and Parise is absolutly rediculous
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
How did the Fraser
thingy go?
Did he break down and start crying?
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apparently they only let 2 or 3 legit leaf fans call in
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
they did rep PPP and both me and Leafer got coments from here on the air
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ok I take back that “those bastards” comment.
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The host said he liked our blog name.
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they did however, allow Habs fans to call in, a huge number of apologists and the proverbial “leaf fans are whiners” comenters, also several repeated hair jokes and other inane questions you could ask any referee, not to mention the whole thing was fluff to promote his new book
at least thats what i got from the comments here
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The third and fourth lines are no problem. Lots of grinders and heart and soul types, especially if they can resign restricted free agent Ryan Hollweg.
Funniest thing I’ve read all day. Someone out there still thinks Hollweg is an NHL player. Trade him to Columbus!
I've been looking at the sky
It’s the kind of thing that could beat away depression.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
They both like giving it from behind?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 5, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice signature tag….
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
we are an observant bunch, personally I like your boldness.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
they propagate round these parts, there are several here that are regulars
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
lots of lovely ladies with tons of hockey smarts are regulars here…or like Jared said! Doh!
Also, dreaming is good. All Leaf fans dream, right?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
well its no longer one long waking nightmare, so we have that going for us
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
And one day there will be a girls of PPP calendar.
It’s for the children.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we’re all someones children
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
it’ll be on the bestsellers’ list
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think someone more eloquent than myself needs to pen a manifesto calling for the end of self-deprication among Leaf fans. It’s become a bit of a meme and I think it’s leading to the acceptance of failure.
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post it in november when it matters…someone should link you the dictionary…
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it, the kid’s got gumption.
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BRASS ONES
You got’em.
Also, Burke said no to Zherdev.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
we dont need alexi kovalev the younger
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Any specifics there? It makes me think he may have some move in order if that’s the case…
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Just that he told Kevin Allen at USA Today that he had no interest in Zherdev
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Rangers didn’t want their second leading scorer back for $3.9 or their leading scorer for $4.
HELLO GABORIK
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Also, the line about being able to navigate NHL.com got some screen time in Yahoo’s Puck Headlines today.
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Of course it did. I’d fear the wrath of the irate Columbus fans but they can’t use computers.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Careful, PPP, they are firing up the 2400 BAUD modems right now… they will have witty retort in about a week.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 5, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Are they at about the same phase as Flyers fans? By that I mean, “have they figured out what to do with the big black monolith?”.
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Aug 5, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
THIS IS STANLEY KUBRICK FUNNY.
jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog
"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
Outstanding work. I hope WRAP AROUND CURL sees this post for the Burkies.
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Why you gotta be like that?
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 6, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanted to make sure this got included in your process even if it didn’t turn green.
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Yes we helped make Wyshynski the man he is today… and hopefully tomorrow.
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The Devils fandom is a huge flaw but he was a riot in Montreal.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Although not the biggest of drinkers. He was handily draken under the table by the PPP fellowship.
Wings fan by birth. Leafs fan by truculent osmosis.
he stood there and didnt judge me as i rambled drunkenly at him, class act that one
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He judged alright. I think he hated you by the end. : )
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love me or hate me, that is the question,
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
what is the answer?
Or should we even have to ask?
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love me or hate me still an obsession!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I did buy him a Jaegr bomb. I bought a few of you dudes those.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i remember that, and nothing after
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Kadri
I’m sure it’s been done a million times but I’m new so you’ll have to forgive me. What is your guys’ (and gals’) take on Kadri?
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This post is relevant to my interests.
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Aug 5, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
slick playmaker, not affraid of the rough stuff, gonna be a good NHL talent
glad burke didnt trade up because the price would have been too high,
have to admit that I wanted Cown though
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You won’t want Cowen after Kadri’s toe dragged through him for the 400th time.
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my opinion has shifted greatly with the new evidence presented
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Cowen? But then we wouldn’t have seen Wrap cry!
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i am still quite surprised she didnt beat you at the draft
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just glad she didn’t throw herself over the railing. Her scream was louder than me heckling Julian all night.
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JUUUUUUUULIIIIAAAAAN
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
damn, I still wish I went to the draft.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
What did I do?
/asks innocently.
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Damien here…Haven’t seen the kid play. He’s a special talent.
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Future Super Star.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I POSTED THE GIF HE CAN SEE THAT KADRI IS A FUTURE STAR SHEESH
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you mean
what degree of awesome is Kadri?
currently, he’s a hair beneath Schenn. We’ll see which way it sways after we see him on the ice.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
KADRI!!!1
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you in any way concerned about his weight? I hear he fasts which apparently makes it all but impossible to add size.
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That’s insane. I’m not concerned about Kadri in the slightest.
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yeah, I agree. Not every player needs to be 225 and as slow as a Hal Gill. Some speed and a little fiesty truculence is all good
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
he’ll probably top out at 195ish
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah. he’s over 6" or at least there. If he puts on too much he treads into the Whalewood world
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. look for Kadri to be about the same size as crosby when he matures. 195.
Wings fan by birth. Leafs fan by truculent osmosis.
without the freakishly giant legs
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
he lost weight due to a broken jaw. i believe he bottomed out around 165 and I though tI read somewhere he’s either just under or just over 180 now.
and no, not conerned
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
he is gonna run shit in London this year and is gonna look like a total steal at 7th
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s only during a certain period of the year, no? I’m not familiar with Islam so if there are any Muslims on board here please forgive me if I’m wrong.
If I’m right though the rest of the year he can add size. And I don’t think he’d need to add much, just enough to handle some of the rougher stuff in the NHL while still keeping his speed and skill intact.
Everyone here is right… Kid Kadri’s got skillz, yo!
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They fast during the day but a friend of my was muslim and what he did was get up extra early to get in a good meal before heading out.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If you could lose appreciable weight by fasting occasionally Jenny Craig would have gone out of business a long time ago.
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He was 165 in the combine which means he NEEDS to add 20 lbs at least in my estimation; lest he get Filatov’d
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well hes not playing in the NHL this year, and he’s definetly added some of that back, so he should be fine for another yeahr in the 0
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought I heard the draft announcers say 170, but some people who are more familiar with his junior career than I have cast doubts on that number (and I hope they’re right) since I’ve mentioned it. I doubt if fasting is the cause of it (religiously observant muslims come in all shapes and sizes, and I would trust the scouting staff to uncover any reasons to worry about his ability to play for a month at a time each year before he was drafted), but he is, at the moment, undersized. I know players can bulk up from juniors, but he seems to have a longer way to go than most. One of the things that seems to excite people about him most is his ability to go into the dangerous places, and heft is significantly more important to that when the defenders you encounter in those places are grown men. I don’t need him to be Hanson-sized to be comfortable, but that doesn’t mean concerns over his lack of size should be dismissed. It might put my mind at ease a bit if I heard something about a plan to move him to the wing.
starts Aug 21st, ends Sept 19th. Sounds like a rough rookie camp, but yeah, they eat in the evenings.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
There was a big to do about a Jewish QMJHL player who wouldn’t play on Saturdays. When someone pointed out that he’d essentially forfeit his NHL career he changed his mind.
Something tells me that if Kadri’s planning on fasting during rookie camp, or if his religious views were extreme, he wouldn’t have gone 7th overall.
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maybe he’s a secret Kenyan born Muslim…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
from Hawaii?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
precisely
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well at least he’s not American.
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or worse
Texan
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Hawaii doesnt count! Go FLyers
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
isn’t Hawaii full of snow! Go Flyers!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s a Hawaii? Go Flyers!
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He addressed it during his post-selection media scrum in quotes exlusive to PPP:
I also asked him about the effect that the religious calendar has on his hockey especially in November, when it matters, because of Ramadan. He noted that it’s something that’s frequently asked of him (it’s tough to be original!) but that it is a tough situation however his parents support him 100% as they understand the circumstances involved.
There’s also audio available but it sounds like he is not rigidly observant.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
does this mean the team wins too?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Circumstances matter. I knew this Muslim girl who wouldn’t fast because she was anemic so it makes sense he wouldn’t maintain a strict fast if he’s playing hockey. Furthermore I really don’t see how this is anyone’s business. Even if he followed the rules rigidly he could still eat big meals before sunrise and after sunset. I don’t follow any religion but if I did I would hope that people would realize that it was a private matter and not concern themselves about it. This should not become an issue until Kadri himself bring it up or refuses to do something requested bu the team because it goes against his beliefs.
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I wouldn’t make it a point of referring to his religion non-stop like it seemed the media might do after his selection but insofar that it could affect the team I think that it’s a valid question.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry I know I replied to you but it was just a comment in general.
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and like I said when he does refuse to do something the team asks then the question becomes valid. Does anyone ever ask Gary Bettman whether or not he works on the Sabbath ?
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For him it’s not work. Being an evil fuhr just happens.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet back in the day when Schneider first showed up in the league, someone asked him. I remember something about it in Toronto when Shawn Green played for the Jays
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
For me I’m the last person to defend any religion. I just don’t like the speculation that is being fostered (mostly by the media) solely based on his religious beliefs because it reeks of cultural bias.
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the best way to reduce ignorance is ask and answer questions. Hopefully by getting it out there early it will help reduce that concern of bias.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
it was a question about how religious practices might impact conditioning.
nothing more, nothing less. given that you weren’t anymore privy to the Leafs interview of Kadri than the rest of us, I’d say it’s an honest question by a curious Leafs fan.
I can think of 1000 things far more offensive than that.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said it was a general question not directed at anyone in particular nor at any comment.
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but the question was asked by someone here as well, that’s what started all this.
i don’t think Leaf Fan in Ottawa meant anything by it. And, I’d also say that I’m glad he asked it because we all learned something about it.
and knowing, is half the battle.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The way this thread has turned seems to be making me out to be a racist more and more by the minute; I just wanted to know how observant he was and if it would affect his ability to get up to NHL calibre (wellwood/brodeur excluded) conditioning
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understood. furcifer has made valid comments about racial bias in media reporting which have kind of turned the convo.
i don’t believe he was implying anything directly at you.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Curt. Blurr’s right. I wasn’t implying anything towards you.
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I don’t think so, you asked for our opinions on Kadri and his faith and the ultimate imapct it may have on the Leafs. Treading into topics that touch on religion, politics etc are risky, especially for Leafs fans.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Naw, only a nutjob would think that…
BURN THE RACIST!!!
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He could have played for Columbus.. they don’t play on Saturdays, right?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 5, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
This is my take; http://i28.tinypic.com/25svtdh.jpg

Btw if you’re going to claim to be the future Mr Curl ya gotta back it up. This is your chance; http://wraparoundcurl.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/temp-work/
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I love these
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
RUN!!
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
hush, you....
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by Wrap Around Curl on Aug 5, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll assume you’ve read it, Curt, but a pretty good discussion here.
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If they got 80 wins then why couldn’t they win those other two? I think that’s a fair complaint. Good thing for the Blue Jackets that their fan is so understanding.
That is a ripe thing of beauty and I dig it.
Thank You
There’s a lot of subtlety that got missed in the rush to question whether the Leafs could finish 10th in scoring again. The last line is the real winner.
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by PPP on Aug 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess some folks weren’t paying attention when there was a goalie carousel spinning around Toronto for the better part of the end of the season. The Leafs should’ve made like the 80s Oilers and just been #1 in scoring instead…. But hey, a bunch of knuckleheads said scoring is a big problem in Toronto.
Fall in line media sheep!
Well, how many years have the media been ripping on our D? Then the last few years are goaltending was struggling and so they ripped on that.
Now that it looks like our D will be the 3 through 9 types of awesome(Schenn has all types, tho) and our goaltending is still a bit suspect but will be better than last year – it is time to pick on the goal scoring.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 5, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
next week they will nitpick about something else.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 5, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
just wait until the first loss of the preseason…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 5, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
or if one of the prospects doesnt score a hat trick is first game with the bigs
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Sheeple!
1967!
Rebuilding!
November when it matters!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s with the pushing of 10th in league scoring? WHO CARES? They didn’t get into the playoffs. Simply put the Leafs don’t have the talent nor the chemistry required to be able to put together a winning season.
Yes I said it. No matter what Burke sees as the future of the Leafs, he should have gotten rid of Luke Schenn when he had the chance. Yes that would have been bold, and it would have secured the Leafs with a top 4 offensive guy, a middle tier forward and likely a pick or 2. Then the guy moaning about the 10th overall in scoring can actually make a good opinion about that fact.
You cannot depend on Blake as your #1. It makes no sense. He had one good season in Long Island and then was brought into TO with only Sundin to play with, now he’s gone and Blake is the Long Island Lone Ranger. Burke should have also traded away Ponikarovsky (however you spell it) for a bag of rusty nails. The Leaf fan, as misguided as they are, still deserve to see a 5 or 6 goal game from time to time, and unless all the goalies in the league get duct taped to chairs and held for randsom before each game, I don’t forsee that happening…. despite them being 10th in the league in scoring.
And interestingly enough the bright spots on the Leafs (yes there are some) are all former Habs. No, I am not bringing this up as a sour Habs fan who believed Komisarek was “The Next larry Robinson” (but I did believe he was going to re-sign.. even if the term was shorter), I’m bringing this up as Komisarek and Beauchemin will likely be the #1 and #2 D in “The Center of the Universe” and if Grabs can continue to have that hate on towards former teammates I think he’ll be looking at 70 or 80 points in the not so distant future. But, these 3 and Kulemin cannot bring this team to the promised land.
I can see an overall improvement to the Leafs…. congrats Burke. But lets be real, the upgrades haven’t ensured anything. Other than they look good on Paper…
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Thanks for your input. I’m sending out for my Lolipop Guild badge as I write this. I’m thinking of purple. What colour’s yours?
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What’s with the pushing of 10th in league scoring? WHO CARES? They didn’t get into the playoffs.
Well, I know a Habs fan isn’t going to care about facts but it matters because one of the big themes of the article was that the Leafs were going to struggle scoring. It’s the same story every year and every year the Leafs find scoring.
No matter what Burke sees as the future of the Leafs, he should have gotten rid of Luke Schenn when he had the chance. Yes that would have been bold, and it would have secured the Leafs with a top 4 offensive guy, a middle tier forward and likely a pick or 2.
The Leafs would have traded a franchise defenceman for a franchise forward. Not sure if you remember what either one looks like in Montreal but the idea is to have both not one or the other. Not to mention that no deal in the lead up to the draft included the massive bounty that you are suggesting. The rumoured deals were Schenn + Kaberle + the 7th overall pick to move up in the draft. Explain to me how that move makes sense?
Then the guy moaning about the 10th overall in scoring can actually make a good opinion about that fact.
Uhhh a good opinion like how the Leafs were 10th in scoring last year despite everyone moaning about how they wouldn’t be able to score because Sundin was gone?
You cannot depend on Blake as your #1.
Thanks Captain Obvious. We know that, Burke knows that, hell, even you apparently know that.
And interestingly enough the bright spots on the Leafs (yes there are some) are all former Habs.
We know. Isn’t it funny that we took your second best defenceman and one of your young forwards? That actually makes me smile.
But, these 3 and Kulemin cannot bring this team to the promised land.
You’re not exactly blowing up our skirts by telling us things that we already know.
But lets be real, the upgrades haven’t ensured anything. Other than they look good on Paper…
I’m going to let you in on a little secret but the upgrades haven’t had a chance to look good on the ice because * looks around to ensure no one is eavesdropping * the season hasn’t started.
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by PPP on Aug 6, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s fair. Looking good on paper is a huge upgrade for the Leafs over last year’s squad.
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by PPP on Aug 6, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Gionta 08-09 20 goals
Gomez 08-09 16 goals
Grabovski 08-09 20 goals
Good free agent work Gainey.
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The Leaf fan, as misguided as they are, still deserve to see a 5 or 6 goal game from time to time, and unless all the goalies in the league get duct taped to chairs and held for randsom before each game, I don’t forsee that happening….
Opp GF GA
CGY 8 6
PIT 7 3
COL 7 4
MTL 6 3
ATL 6 2
CAR 6 4
PIT 6 2
NJD 5 5
NYR 5 2
EDM 5 2
BOS 5 8
PIT 5 4
MTL 5 2
MTL 5 2
BOS 5 7
PHI 5 8
OTT 5 2
Directly following these loses, two teams (PIT and MTL) fired their coaches. That’s generally what happens when you underestimate your opponent.
Also, are Leafs fans the only ones without a stick up their asses…? Chill out NHL fans of other teams, we’re allowed to root for our Buds any way we want. Even through statistical analysis.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 6, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Chill out NHL fans of other teams
Agreed. Whenever I read a post or article like that, it sounds like hurried yelling in my inner monologue. Call down, and learn to write your ideas down in a manner that doesn’t sound like you’re a pissed off speed freak. Just a suggestion. Whatever.
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The best part is that as a Habs fan he probably saw the first period of three of our five goal games before turning the TV off to cry gravy on top of his french fries.
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It is going to be so fucking hard to take Habs fans seriously for any reason whatsoever this season.
Simply put the Leafs don’t have the talent nor the chemistry required to be able to put together a winning season.
And this from a guy who won’t even be able to recognize his team from last year to this one, let alone see them if they’re skating close to the boards.
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Burke should have also traded away Ponikarovsky (however you spell it) for a bag of rusty nails
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Hmm Scott Gomez got 58 pts at a $7.4 million Cap hit, Gionta got 60 pts at $4 million and Poni got 61 pts at a $2.1 million hit. Yeah the Leafs should definitely have dumped him.
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he is on the list of the top 5 leaf players (prospects not included) that the Leafs should NOT trade
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s … for a second… suspend our obvious disdain for the teams the other represents.
All my point was is that (as other have pointed out) losing a good chunk of offensive output and not refilling it with anyone of great support, I do not think the Leafs can push forward without some offence.
Its nice that you illustrate what happened last seaon with goal production. I get it. As you pointed out this is often brought up as an issue… and being 10th offensively.. gets you kudos? If 10th was what it takes, then the Leafs would have managed a birth in the playoffs. They didn’t. So, obviously goal production isn’t the ONLY issue in TO. Yes, it is an issue…. maybe its minor in your mind in comparison to other issues, but it remains due to the lack of defence. Having 6-7 goals a game doesn’t help when you are letting in 5 or more.
Yes I’ll be the first to say I am a little confused about Gainey and what he has done (on paper) for (to) the Habs. But my comments aren’t stemming from dislike for the Leafs. Its a debate.. what is the issue with the Leafs and how do they overcome? Burke thinks he has the anecdote.. we’ll see. And yes I am not saying that the Leafs with their new found Monstre won’t make some eyes open this season, or even that they won’t make the playoffs, but… we’ll see.
by Cruisin4aBruisin on Aug 6, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
take the blinders off.
the point is not solely “10th offensively.” it’s the fact that the media use the “they can’t score goals” argument as a reason why Toronto isn’t very good, when the truth of the matter is, we can score goals. More so than 20 other teams in the league. So, again, if someone were to say that your favorite team can’t score goals, when the truth of the matter is, they can, wouldn’t you take issue with that lazy fact checking?
What is a positive for the Leafs is that Burke has taken steps to improve the defensive aspect of our team. We’ve signed the best goalie not playing in the NHL, and hopefully his skill will translate to NHL success for him. In addition, it’s now common knowledge that Toskala was playing quite beat up last season. With improved health and a better d in front of him, his stats should return to normal. Last season was an anomaly for the guy.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 6, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
The main issue wasnt that of offense, so replacing the lost offense wasnt the biggest concern for Burke in the off season. It was defense and goaltending. Which were both upgraded and overhauled.
And its not like Burke didnt try to gain offense, it just didnt come to fruition. He wasnt going to match the insane contract Camalari got, he wasnt going to give up the Leafs future to move up in the draft, the Sedins never materialized through no fault of his and no team is willing to offer up what he wants for Kaberle.
The kids will have every opportunity to show what they have offensively, who knows how much offense they put up. If it in creases, yay, if it doesnt, well thats what a rebuild is, this is step one
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Having 6-7 goals a game doesn’t help when you are letting in 5 or more.
You managed to write an entire paragraph that was misguided before finally hitting the nail on the head. The Leafs’ problem is that they gave up 286 goals last year. Read that number again. That’s why I was harping on the stupidity of complaining about the Leafs’ being portrayed as some offensively handicapped team. They are defensively handicapped. 10th in league scoring would have got them in the playoffs if they could kill penalties and play defence.
we’ll see.
We shall indeed.
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by PPP on Aug 6, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
As for pot shots on the Habs…. we make the playoffs. I know its little consolation, but, if fortunes were reversed you’d been grabbing on to that fact too.
by Cruisin4aBruisin on Aug 6, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
the Leafs won as many games in the Playoffs as the habs did last year
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Since the ’94 season-
Leafs 66-66 (132 GP) — 10 series won
Sens 49-54 (103 GP) — 8 series won
Canucks 44-52 (96 GP) — 7 series won
Habs 43-46 (89 GP)* — 7 series won
Flames 31-39 (70 GP) — 3 series won
Oil 30-39 (69 GP) — 5 series won
Not including this year’s which makes the Habs look even worse.
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CAAAAAAAAAAARREEEEEEEEEEEEEYY
The leaf fans have the edge here in that they drafted 7th rather than getting absolutely embarrassed.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 6, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
hey we could have got Louis Leblanc,
/inset highlight package from draft of Leblanc falling down after swinging wildly and missing puck.
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
“At least our draft pick’s highlight reel isn’t him falling down in the USHL.”
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by PPP on Aug 6, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I see the maturity level here isn’t as high as it is at other sites.
You can keep your stats. Glad you guys know how to read.
Long and short of it… Lord Stanely isn’t creeping across the Ontario border any time soon.
As for my Habs and their admittedly overpaid players…. we’ll do fine.
Lets check Carey vs Pogge stats while you are at it.. though I guess they won’t matter now the Leafs have given up on him….. Class all class. Maybe the Leafs can pick up another 3-4 goalies and see if they can get into the playoffs.
I guess then the statement “You can’t win if you don’t play” works well with Lottery and with Leafs chances of getting a cup.
by Cruisin4aBruisin on Aug 6, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
Oh I see the maturity level here isn’t as high as it is at other sites.
Coming to a Leafs site and expecting the commentors not to take shots at your team is pretty naive.
You can keep your stats.
Facts, shmacts. You can use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true – Homer Simpson.
Reality is a tough pill to swallow my friend.
Lord Stanely isn’t creeping across the Ontario border any time soon.
You truly are a master at pointing out the obvious. I’d like you to point out once on this entire site where any commenter thinks the Cup is coming soon. It’s a long rebuiding process. Leafs fans understand that.
Lets check Carey vs Pogge stats while you are at it.. though I guess they won’t matter now the Leafs have given up on him….. Class all class.
Are you seriously accusing the Leafs of a lack of class after the way the Habs dealt with Koivu who’d been the Captain of your team for 10 years? Pot meet kettle. If anything the Leafs are showing more class by giving a goalie who has fallen to 3rd of 4th on the goaltending depth chart a chance to start somewhere fresh. That sounds pretty classy to me.
I guess then the statement "You can’t win if you don’t play" works well with Lottery and with Leafs chances of getting a cup.
I don’t know even know what you’re trying to say here but I assume you’re going along the same lines as your “on paper comment”. I’m going to wait until the Leafs play a couple games though before I decide whether they are better on ice or better on paper.
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you come to a leafs based site with flawed arguments and dont expect a few barbs? Jeez stop being so sensitive. I thought we presented some pretty good arguments without insulting you in there some place.
Yes Price is better than Pogge, but he did shit the bed in the post season, twice. You cant deny that.
And if your gonna go all “dont play if you suck” reference then you must be failing to remember how shitethe Habs where after 93, which was a long ass time ago so shoving your 16 year old cup in our face really doesnt mean jack shit to anyone with a pulse.
If you havnt been paying attention to the point here, it isnt to simply make the playoffs its to build a contender. If it takes cycling through 3-4 more goalies to find one, then be it. You wanna talk class then admit when your point has been quashed and get down of your high horse for a second and realize the position you are in before you go making egregious remarks about others
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Carey Price in the Playoffs
Here’s some stats schmats for ya:
Season GAA SV%
2007-08 2.78 .901
2008-09 4.11 .878
Career 3.11 .895
Oh Jesus why can’t Price be the Leafs’ goalie of the future?!?!
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by PPP on Aug 6, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
if only they would sign the best possible goalie not in the nhl!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Season GAA SV%
2008-09 4.11 .878
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 6, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
So you’re getting fed and now you’re going to complain and call us immature for tossing in some hilarity into our factual smackdown?
Cry me a river.
Long and short of it… Lord Stanely isn’t creeping across the Ontario or Quebec border any time soon.
Fixed that sentence for you.
Lets check Carey vs Pogge stats while you are at it.. though I guess they won’t matter now the Leafs have given up on him….. Class all class.
How dare the classless Leafs give up on an underperforming player. That’s almost as classless as fans booing a player that they had called Jesus Price just a few months prior.
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by PPP on Aug 6, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
dont forget rallying to keep the laziest most apathetic player on the team in Montreal while not giving a shit while one of the classiest players in the NHL is abandoned
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
your logic is infallible. (big word, look it up…)
as far as the maturity level goes, Carey Price never complained.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 6, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
robert ethan?
The Leafs may not win everygame, but they will beat the shit out of you
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Now that guy was a superstar troll.
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was he the one who said that Burke was on hold for 48 hours?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
no he was the one talking about Komisarek…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 6, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAH
1:30am troll control
The Leafs may not win everygame, but they will beat the shit out of you
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nah that was the Bruins guy
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WAT
Am I not the Bruins guy around here?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 6, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
you are
he was the OTHER bruins guy.
he also ended up being kinda funny, and we got that great “Burke on hold” meme…
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Stalk me here...
by blurr1974 on Aug 6, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
One of my favorite PPP memes. For obvious homer reasons.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 6, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
no that was bostonblueline (another superstar) robert ethan was the one who blabbed about Komi and said that Stefanovich was supposed to go top 5.
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ah yes, all the trolls seem to blend together
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I am going to have to point out that he is, indeed, Cruisin4aBruisin.
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by PPP on Aug 6, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
very apt
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well at least we have another entry for the PPP Mouthbreathers.
A Nation of Masochists The waiting is the hardest part but the truculence helps.
If nothing else it has to be close to a record for quickest turnaround from calm (though completely wrong) debate to typical trite and insulting troll behaviour.
Being a Leaf fan here requires one to be sufficiently lubricated... and truculent!
Normally it’s been the other way around but the path isn’t an exact science.
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by PPP on Aug 6, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
trolls are a much more complicated species than i once thought
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
this should become the standard when trolls pop up. It worked for that guy jack or whatever his name was.
A Nation of Masochists The waiting is the hardest part but the truculence helps.
Closing Comments
Because we beat the crap out of this topic, the writer, and the troll.
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