Truculence Incorporated - Brian Burke CEO
by blurr1974 on Sep 17, 2009 5:01 AM EDT
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After watching the game last night, I had one thought: So that's what a good GM does. Years of ineptitude, which is far more painful to watch than mediocrity, had me convinced GM's just were not that important. I was happy Burke signed on, but seeing as how Cliff didn't do much but change the faces of the team, I didn't think good ol' BB was going to fair much better. I was wrong.
Seems like the rest of the Barilkosphere had a thought or two as well.
- First, the Truthulence speaks a word about truculence.
- Steve from Hockey Talk is thinking some of the blue on the Leafs unis might be left on the opposing team, in the form of bruises. Truculence!
- TSM likes what he saw from the new kids. And the truculence.
- MLHS has quite a few thoughts as well. In summary, Bozak - good. Allison -bad. Beauchemin and Frogren - truculence.
- The Hockey-Bums makes note of the fact that Garnet Exelby (it's XLB gang...) did what he was brought here to do. Truculence!
- The Two Line pass has some photographic proof of the skills of one Viktor Stalberg and notes losses like this can be fun to watch. Thanks to the truculence.
- John Mitchell is the reason Jonas Gustavsson signed with the Leafs. He's also been known to show some mother(expletive deleted) truculence.
- Branching out, here's a completely unbiased opinion on the Leafs opposition to the Hamilton Coyotes. Tr....no, that's not it, more like "meh."
- Finally, hair tips, from Kerry Fraser (with a glove tap to mf37 for the link) and not an ounce of truculence to be found.
UPDATED
- The Zambonic Youth's Godd Till is a hep cat, and he's got a few words for us senior citizens. One of them better be "truculence."
- The Hungry Leafs Fan was at the game last night. Do not adjust your TV set, these Leafs really were the personification of truculence.
- HockeyCentric wonders where Tlusty was last night
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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Sep 17, 2009 6:42 AM EDT reply actions
The MItchell piece sounds…inspiring….to say the least. What pun can I make on Gustavsson?
Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing. Also rather truculent for a chick.
Pun me this
From a Mitchell piece in today’s Star
"I just told him about the great things about Toronto and that if you want to play in a great hockey market, there is no better place than here," the well-spoken Mitchell said."
Well spoken indeed.
by blue with age on Sep 17, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
i was thinking a maple leafs chat treatment of events. But he is well spoken when cameras are around
Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing. Also rather truculent for a chick.
monster mash? I’ve got nothing… although this kind of meeting seems like it happened so you can write about johnny mitchell drinking beers and tossing f-bombs
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drinking beers and f bombs is one of my specialties, indeed.
Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing. Also rather truculent for a chick.
Those are good talents to have.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 17, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
so is anybody else excited to go see the Marlies this year? Usually I go a few times a year, with the strict rule that each period you have to move to a completely new seat…
on a completely unrelated note, you can usually get AHL backup goalies to play rock-paper-scissors if you sit right beside them
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Went to a few last year, going to more this season for sure. Getting tickets for their home opener.
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by palmateerlover on Sep 17, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
chansler over at Leafspace.com is doing an event for the Marlies opener in a private box.
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Only watched the 2nd period last night, turned it off with the score 2-2. Seemed like a good effort, especially from the young guys. Only glanced at the paper this morning and I thought I saw that the Leafs won 3-2, not the Bruins.
A co-worker just walked in and told me who scored the winning goal…
I’ve never had someone not shitting me in such a perfectly appropriate context before in my life.
by general borschevsky on Sep 17, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions
You missed out on a great 1st period then. The ice was completely tilted in the Leafs’ favor. Toskala maybe had 5 shots all period. The 2nd was the complete opposite of the 1st, with the Bruins controlling the game. The 3rd was pretty balanced.
A quick note on the 1st: The momentum was all Toronto’s and it had the most fights of the game. Coincedence or Truculence?
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I looked at the GameThread but I only read Chemmy’s comments. Not much love for the Vesa.
by general borschevsky on Sep 17, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Chemmys comments are easy to read because they are all in capitals
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Was at the game last night, here are a couple notes from what I saw:
Allison has 0 chance of making the team, he was brutal.
Bozak looked like an NHLer, his goal (as im sure you all know) was incredible and his 2 way play was strong. Held his own on the point on the PP as well.
Stalberg is unbeleivably fast. This guy reminds me of Poni but at least twice as fast. He has serious jets and his 2 way play was very strong. I wouldnt be surprised if he makes the big club at all.
Beauchimin looks like a stud, he should have a very strong season as a 1-2 guy. Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised if he takes Kaberle’s spot as the teams best defenceman.
Finger and XLB looked like a solid pairing, Oreskovic and Frogren are going to have to wait for injuries to get any ice time this year.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
Interesting
They don’t seem to mention the Long-Term Injury Reserve aspect. I wonder if that’s because they don’t know or because it doesn’t apply?
Since MF37 brought it up I am guessing it’s the former.
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Every year I pick one young guy to get unrealistically excited about. With all due respect to Bozak, the leader in that race so far is Vic Stalberg. He looks like a beast.
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by Down Goes Brown on Sep 17, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions
Every year I pick one young guy to get unrealistically excited about.
Would you call that the Lonny Bohonos or Zedenik Nedved award?
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The Brandon Convery Memorial award.
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by Down Goes Brown on Sep 17, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Brandon Convery – haha!
I ’member getting pumped for Convery, too. I think Rob Pearson fits in the there,
Alex Godynuik (sp).
Brandon Convery … what a waste
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 17, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I couldn’t get over his speed and willingness to get his nose dirty! The thought of a player in a Leafs jersey playing like that on a consistent basis is most definitely cause for drooling.
Gotta love how Bozak undressed to B’s defenders, shorthanded no less. I had flashes of Mike Richards for like 10 minutes after it happened!
He looks like a confident beast. And he can fly. All signs point to “YES”.
by general borschevsky on Sep 17, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Every year I pick one young guy to get unrealistically excited about. With all due respect to Bozak, the leader in that race so far is Vic Stalberg. He looks like a beast.
Somewhere, Damien Cox and Howard Berger are working on pieces complaining about the obvious incompetence displayed by the Leafs’ scouting department by failing to draft him earlier than the 6th round. And in November, you know…when it mattered.
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by jrwendelman on Sep 17, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I still laugh about a comment I saw on CBC.ca when they announced the Habs had signed Subban and some clown posted that Gainey was a better GM than Burke because he signed guys like Subban.
Dude spends all day reading hockey websites and doesn’t know the draft exists.
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Stalberg may very well be my favorite Leaf by the end of the year. The guy’s speed is just unreal, I was blown away.
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 17, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly I’m surprised the sonic boom when he skated by both benches didn’t blow off a few of the Bruins players helmets.
(The Leafs glue their helmets on; a locker room vote decided this was the most truculent option.)
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There is some kind of an awesome theme/photoshop there, Chemmy. Where the hell is Kerry Fraser and Odin? Victor “Sonic Boom” Stalberg".
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by kidkawartha on Sep 17, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Many of us are now afflicted with ‘The Stalberg Chubby’
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 17, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
My view of the game while at the game if anybody is interested in more redundant but shoddy analysis.
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Sep 17, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions
Awesome game, I love what our Leafs brought to the table.
Not sure who these Leafs fans are that demand another team in Hamilton – don’t they realize we’ll just end up with more fans just as douchey as the Senators? I guess it’s a good litmus test for who the real Leafs fans are.
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Geez…those B’s look like a physical squad, too.
Going to be some sweet Northeast battles this year.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 17, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes sir, I like it.
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 17, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Norris East?
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by Down Goes Brown on Sep 17, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Gonna be sweet for everyone except Montreal’s first line.
“Please daddy don’t hit me again.”
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Oh yeah, and all of Ottawa’s…team.
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 17, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
The Ottawa Senators “hockey team”.
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Did you really type that and keep a straight face?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 17, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
air quotes help
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it true that you love brokencyde?
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The "Truc Inc" part sounds better when it's sung.
I kept hearing it like this in my head.
Kadri MUST go back to junior. He was getting knocked around and off the puck a few times last night. With a little more muscle, he’ll be just fine though.
Also, Cornelius was a gracious winner in the thread. Classy guy. Seriously. Thanks CH!
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We should punch the shit out of CH.
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Fuck you, Chemmy.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 17, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
/punches in back of head
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See? Look at this muckraker coming in here to disturb the solemn sanctity of our blog.
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haha, sanc-tity
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
haha, sanctity of your blog.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 17, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
We’re not going to let Massholes come in to this blog and curse and wipe their feet on the couch.
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He could afford a new one
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
This is really a much better retort than anything I can come up with this morning.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 17, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
AGREED!
Kadri got knocked around a bit and he needs to stop making that little extra move. I liked his hustle tho
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it ain’t where I been
it’s ‘bout where I’m ’bout to go
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I actually do not fully agree that Kadri is a lock to get sent back down. He started the game playing with Orr and Primeau (I believe), not sure what the hell Wilson was thinking, but I digress.
I personally felt that when he was played with more competent and offensively minded players his play improved drastically. I do think that he is not as strong as he could be, but I don’t think he was man handled last night at all. He drove to the net hard and came DAMN close to potting at the end. I think towards the end and possibly on the PP he was playing with Bozak and Stalberg(er) and that made a world of difference.
Again, IMO.
Still a boy’s body though. That’s reason number one I’d send him down. Number two is that he’d take up a spot that’s needed to evaluate guys like Hanson, Stalberg, and Bozak who are RFAs soon.
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he did not face Lucic last night, and was tossed off the puck at one point by Patrice Bergeron…
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 17, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
so is andy woznewski, you should sign him long term
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
only Bruin to score a GWG this year!
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Actually, that’s not true. Max Sauve also has.
Interestingly enough, I don’t expect either of them to be on the Boston team.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 17, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
As PPP said, he still has a boy’s body.
He needs to bulk up and mature
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Agreed, added size will make him that much tougher. But he can hit the gym with the Leafs just as well (if not better) then with the Knights. If he’s getting the minutes he needs on the ice and not a liability, then the N is the best place for him. If he can’t keep up and is getting manhandeled (imo, he wasn’t), then yea, send him down, for sho!
He won’t be able to put on weight during the season if he stays up. Players typically lose weight and muscle during the season.
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I don’t know that he put on weight and muscle so much as just got better acclimated to the game. And Stamkos is like 20 lbs heavier right?
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Stamkos was not playing every game by the end of the year specifically so he could hit the gym and add muscle.
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So the question is …. having had Stamkos play a “full” year with TBay and having seen his development. Which SS would you prefer going into the 09-10 season. The Stamkos we have no, or a Stamkos who spent all of last season in the O?
The problem with that question is no one knows how Stamkos might have developed had he stayed in the O.
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Exactly. However, having played with real men for the majority of last season, he got a taste of what it took to compete at that level. Stamkos started the year off soft, but towards the end was much much better. I don’t think his development would have progressed quite in the same with just another year ripping the O a new one.
It's not the exception that proves the rule
Stamkos might have been even better had he played in the O.
We’ll never know.
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I like Kadri, but he’s not going to be anything close to a Stamkos.
can’t compare the two. also, you’re making judgement based on the hindsight of one course of aciton. no way to tell how he would have developed with another year in the O
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Really?
I didn’t know that. Interesting path to take. So give up a year of the salary + not give him the full season of hockey?
I like this idea less and less and I argued for Schenn to stay up.
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Schenn was already 6’2" and 219 lbs when he started his rookie season.
Stamkos is like, an inch shorter and at least 30 lbs lighter…
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no he's not
but he’ll be playing against them for 82 games a season.
and be ragdolled in everyone.
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I dont think he is saying last night, but rather that he will be if he breaks camp with the club and is forced into playing against NHL level bruising D-Men
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this was pre-season, and by the end of the game he was looking out of gas.
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2 inches shorter, 40 lbs lighter according to last night’s game guide that I picked up for a shiny loonie.
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by palmateerlover on Sep 17, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea Kadri is 6’0" and abotu 180, abotu 15 lbs lighter than Stamkos.
I never said Kadri was where he needed to be physically in order to get the play out of hmi we’re looking for. He most certainly needs to be bigger. I’m just not on the bandwagon of “send him down, no questions asked”.
I chose to reserve my bandwagon jumping until we know more of where he would fit on that depth chart and not of the mindset that playing with the big club COULD be a good move for him.
at center
he’s behind
Grabovski
Stajan
Bozak
Wallin
Primeau
Mitchell
On wing he’d be behind:
Poni
Hagman
Mayers
Blake
Tlusty
Stempniak
Orr
Stalberg
Hanson
until Burke makes a trade or two, it makes no sense to keep him up a full season. even then, it may not make sense.
if he blows the doors off Wilson and Burke, then so be it, but he certainly didn’t stand out as spectacular last night, and he’s got dwindling opportunities to do so.
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Time will most certainly tell where he lands on the depth chart. Wilson has already said that in order for him to make this club he needs to be on either line 1 or 2 only.
So the C position break down, from my perspective:
Line 1 and 2: Grabo/Stajan/Bozak
Line 3 and 4: Mitchell/Wallin/Primeau
He’s competing with only 3 of those guys, but would agree that as of right now he still needs to do some leapfrogging, you’re most definitely right there.
As you put it
He has to play top 2 lines, right now he is FAR behind Grabbo and Bozak
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by palmateerlover on Sep 17, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
boner nation
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t think it has much to do with bandwagon jumping. Nobody wants to see our future scoring star get smooshed is all.
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by palmateerlover on Sep 17, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Nor do I. I’m just saying that we should wait to see how people play in the rest of the pre-season before we already decide that kadri can’t cut it in the N. Let’s be honest Stajan is no spring chicken!
Stajan is 25.
how old are you…?
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Brandon Dubinsky: 23 year old 40 point guy.
Matt Stajan: 25 year old 55 point guy.
STAJAN STINKS. OFFER SHEET DUBINSKY.
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Wow
Guess I struck a nerve with the Stajan thing.
My remark about his age was more in relation to his development and what we can expect out of him. He doesn’t suck, he’s just been given a lot of time to play top minutes and did well with that, but nothing that should lock him in" to a spot. (Dominic Moore anytone?)
According to the man in charge, Brian Burke thinks Matt Stajan and Mikhail Grabovski are top 6 forwards, contrary to popular opinion.
No offense, but I trust his opinion more than yours…
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We can probably expect 40+ points out of him.
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Stajan’s consistently improved and it’s definitely in part because he’s been given more ice-time.
Dominic Moore must have had insane contract demands since he is still unsigned.
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I’m no fan of Stajan’s. His biggest issue is that he doesn’t seem to fit with Burke’s top 6/bottom 6 scheme.
That said, he was 34th in scoring among centres last season. That’s pretty good for a #2 centre, especially at his salary hit.
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At his salary hit
That’ll be an interesting storyline this year as well. If Stajan has another good year how much will he ask for and will he get the Moore treatment?
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Exactly. 55 points for $1.75 million is a pretty damn good deal.
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he’ll probably look to double that
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be insane. $3.5 mill for Stajan?
Poni will need a raise, Stajan would be lucky to get a bump up to what Poni makes now.
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yah, I dont think Burke will throw more than 2.5 his way
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
it’s not, just found it funny to be saying a 25 year old is “no spring chicken”
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blurr is like 63 and doesn’t appreciate you walking across his lawn
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And you don’t look a day over 80
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my doctor told me i had the lungs of a 90 year old emphysema patient and the liver of 200 year old alcoholic.
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old joke
My doctor told me if I didn’t quit smoking and drinking I’d end up like Frank Sinatra.
I said, “What, rich and powerful?”
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Well, he’s not a…uh…winter…chicken either.
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by palmateerlover on Sep 17, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
mmm chicken
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
chicken tastes good
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by palmateerlover on Sep 17, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
a year with the Knights will only help him, he’ll get a year of tearing shit up and it will make him hungrier
It will also give him time to perfect aspects of his game.
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
and
he can be on Team Canada!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh man, I cant wait to see Kadri on Team Canada
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 17, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
As PPP said, he still has a boy’s body.
He needs to bulk up and mature
This.
I saw him at the rookie game get knocked off the puck fairly easily by the end of the game, more or less by guys at his own age and stage. The big league is no place for our best prospect if he’s physically unready for it. If he were to play in the bigs, he’d be playing tired, and that’s how career-ending injuries happen. His place is back in junior – and more importantly, in the weight room.
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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
by jrwendelman on Sep 17, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s not even about solely about weight either. One of the issues I had with Luke Schenn staying with the Leafs was his role on the team. He may have got the ice-time, but if he isn’t getting important ice-time playing in all situations, it’s a lost year for him. This is especially true because Schenn would have been captain for his junior team and play every situation possible. So it was good for Schenn and the Leafs that he ended up playing 22 minutes every night against top competition and was the main man on the PK. I would have liked to see Schenn on the PP and I wonder if he will be pigeonholed as a defensive specialist only. But that’s a debate for another day.
Kadri would be playing every possible situation in London, as he will be one of the main cogs for the Knights this season. I doubt Kadri will play on the PP, PK, and the last minute of the hockey game with the Leafs. As such, how productive will Kadri’s minutes be in the NHL? While weight gaining is essential, just as important is what type of game Kadri gets to play with the Leafs. At this point, I don’t see how Kadri will unseat the regulars on the top-6 and play all the roles necessary to gain valuable experience. Kadri wasn’t 100% last year and missed some time in juniors recovering, so gaining stamina and game experience is perhaps even more significant.
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by bkblades on Sep 17, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bob McKenzie? Is that you?
Seriously good commentary, bk.
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Bob McKenzie? Is that you?
Wow, I’m blushing. Even though, I think I’m cuter than him by a long shot. Sorry, Bob?
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also i dont think you have a mutant sized head
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I can’t bobble so well, as a result.
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His eyes are soo close together… check it out next time, you won’t be able to look away.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 17, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
his head is like a mascot version of a normal head, its creepy as hell
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
the Bobblehead McKenzie is a scale model
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 17, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
So he is the opposite of that guy in the Rogers commercial with the crappy phone? Because his eyes are so far apart. It’s mesmerizing
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Sep 17, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And Ores is not exactly a good fighter.
Nice big hit, but I imagine he’s first or second call up for the third pairing, battling Frogren for the call up.
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I thought you meant “Orr’s” at first. When I realized you meant Oreskovic that made a lot more sense.
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Ores – no
Orr- yes
Orr looked like he doesn’t even need to fight, unless shit really hits the fan.His forecheck kind of spoke for itself.
A habs fan lemme watch the game at his place last night (new house, no cable)…between commercials. So I missed a bit
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 17, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Did your friend start building a panic room in case the Maple Leafs break out of the cage Burke transports them from game to game in?
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by Chemmy on Sep 17, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha. He may have converted his 2nd bedroom, don’t know, but the door was shut all night and had a pic of Laraque on the door, arms wide open with a quote bubble “come to papa’s arms, it’s safe in here”
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 17, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Does he have a stash of veggie dogs and wheat grass in there, too?
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
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by kidkawartha on Sep 17, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Orr knows he doesnt need to fight to make the cut. But I’m sure the moment someone takes liberties with one of the skill players they are in for a world of hurt
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I doubt anyone’s going to be taking liberties with Orr on the bench.
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Nice change from the likes of Hollweg, who was a try-hard.
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 17, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
more like fail-hard
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
you try ramming your face into peoples fists for a living and see how much sense the world makes.
poor ’weg. no one understands…
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by blurr1974 on Sep 17, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
THE NUMBERS ARE LAUGHING AT ME, THEY MUST DIE!
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Hittin’ from behind ain’t easy.
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clearing waivers is
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Where is “Hollywood” Hollweg these days anyways?
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 17, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
stalking Peterangelo, he wants to finish the job
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 17, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
My men’s league in Ottawa
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 17, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah Ores is a hitting defenseman who’s willing to fight, not the other way around
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by PapaLasagna on Sep 17, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
From a Caps fan
From an outsider looking in, I love what Brian Burke is doing. Building from the backline, shoring up the depth at G and at D, and moulding a team that will be brutal to play against. This team is going to get some gift points this year based on opponents that just don’t want to deal with them.
If they can get some semi-consistent scoring pop, maybe have a couple guys take a step forward in their development, I like their chances for the playoffs. At this point, I’m calling the Leafs my surprise 7th seed.
Question: what is the origin of the “Are you shitting me?” thing with Wosniewski?
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to briefly rehash old scars, Wosniewski came up a few times to the leafs and showed his talent for giveaways, delay of game penalties, and general incompetence
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by PapaLasagna on Sep 17, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
and weird ass bank the puck of the end board goals
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
one of the greatest GWG in Leaf history.
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those arnt gift points, they are sacrifices to the altar of truculence!
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
a few overtime/shootout losses converted to wins because we don’t fold up?
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by PapaLasagna on Sep 17, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
We’ll get 12 points from Montreal’s six forfeits. That’s a good start.
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Very nice game, pre-season or no.
Meanwhile, here in Ottawa Inspector Clouless and Spezza are complaining about Spezza not padding his pre-season stats.
Plus ca change…
by BesterThanYesterday on Sep 17, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions
Has anyone told you how awesome your user name is?
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Bozak boner
that is all
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I’m just glad I was wearing sweatpants last night.
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Sweatpants is not jammies. I hope this is just a pre-season thing.
by general borschevsky on Sep 17, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
stalberg stiffy!
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe Stalberg needs a nickname for two reasons:
1. He rules.
2. None of you simpletons can spell his name.
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its one of the few things I can spell consistently apparently.
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Well start thinking of nicknames.
Is a game where Vik scores a pair called a Double Stalburger?
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Flying V?
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by palmateerlover on Sep 17, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Viktor “Speed of Light” Stalberg, or, in it’s truculent shortened version;
SOL
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Should we just refer to him as “c”?
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that’d be kinda cool actually.
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Should we just refer to him as "c"
I like this…
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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
by jrwendelman on Sep 17, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Sonic Boom.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
by kidkawartha on Sep 17, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Poni Jr x5?
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 17, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you miss Stalberg’s hysterical speed?
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i saw something skate by, i wasnt sure it was a leaf or not
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 17, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
dear god, he’s gone to plaid
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Id like to see Stalberg play with grabo and Poni
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 17, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Stalberg with Kulemin and Mitchell. Explosive and tough as fuck to score against.
by general borschevsky on Sep 17, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Stalberg Nickname
The Flash?
No Wait, that’s Tlusty’s
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Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 17, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite science joke:
A cop pulls over Werner Heisenberg and says “Do you know how fast you were going?” and Heisenberg replies “No, but I know where I am.”
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heh
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
might as well be
bleacher report
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
what would happen if Damien Cox wrote for the bleacher report?
Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing. Also rather truculent for a chick.
all life on earth would die
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
You know how that crazy particle accelerator in Switzerland is supposed to make little black holes that will suck up the Earth? ya, that
by Its Cold In Here on Sep 17, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
the
Large Hadron Collider?
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IN MY PANTS!!!
thank you, i’ll be here all week
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be where? in your pants?
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
don’t you hate pants?
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by palmateerlover on Sep 17, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Large Hadron Collider
is just crying out for anagram fun.
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yeah, I keep reading it as “LArge Hardon COllidoer”, which sounds erotically painful
Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing. Also rather truculent for a chick.
I’ve been laughing about this for a while.
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"LArge Hardon COllidoer",
I was thinking more like “A Hardcore Dingle Roll”
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by mf37 on Sep 17, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I thought this was a nickname for Stalberg not Cox
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It was a Hostess treat that didn’t make it past the focus group stage.
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It sounds more like something you would do to a poor defenseless Hostess treat…
by Its Cold In Here on Sep 17, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Link
to website with continuous updates on whether the LHC has destroyed the world yet…
hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
by jrwendelman on Sep 17, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Why is that unbelievable? I would have sent him down if I were the GM.
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And you wouldn’t have been called a genius by Brian Burke like I was.
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It all depends on their capacity to get the minutes they need to get better. The key factor with Luke was that keeping him around depended on him getting top 4 minutes, no use playing as the 7th d-man.
Same with with Kadri, as Wilson said. Only way he cracks the team is if he’s on the 1st or 2nd line. If he outplays Stajan (which shouldn’t be too hard). I would rather have him play against bigger/stronger players and get used to that game, rather then play in ‘rookie tourneys’ and not get pushed to be better by his peers. The way I see it, you want to play against the best, key word though is PLAY. On the 3rd line hes not lpaying enough. 2nd line is a different story.
You can’t compare Kadri to Schenn. Schenn had a “man’s” body last year, Kadri doesn’t.
Time will tell with Kadri, but after last night, he isn’t ready. I know it is one game and lots can change but as of this very moment, he goes back to London. No question
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Kids get more minutes, in more situations, playing in the minors.
By playing in the bigs, the Leafs are throwing away a year of controlled salary and wavier flexibility – not a smart move, or an efficient use of resources, in a capped environment.
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case in point, Tlusty
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously, I wrote a response without scrolling down. But mf37 succintly wrote what I meandered above and agree wholeheartedly.
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bkblades – the other element I’d add to our two points is that organizations really need to shelter their young kids from the tough minutes or else these players (and their teams) will get eaten alive.
I have no problem with Kadri leading the soft-parade, but the more kids on the Leafs, the tougher it is to find the soft minutes for them to play and the less likely it is the club will meet its stated goal of challenging for the playoffs.
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organizations really need to shelter their young kids from the tough minutes or else these players (and their teams) will get eaten alive.
Not only has that been Burke’s m.o. with guys like Perry and Getzlaf but Damien Cox himself mentions it and uses it as a proper argument to back up his contention that Kadri should go to the minors.
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And not dissimilar to other franchises with their top five draft picks, Kadri doesn’t have the luxury of annonymity of those nights struggling to find consistency. Of course, any sports athlete has to ignore all the attention and negativity that comes with the territory to ever succeed. But having the confidence and chance to fail and prop himself back up without worry of being benched or scratched is an asset that has much different ramifications in juniors/minors than the NHL.
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to slow for one comment?
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, LOADS of blown calls last night. I didn’t notice, but were those rookie refs last night…?
Like, blatantly obvious high sticking infractions and offsides calls missed. I know we bitch about officiating in the regular season, but last night seemed exceptionally bad
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They missed a blatant high stick to Allison’s face on that play where the puck went all the way down to Toronto’s zone, then got broken out by the Leafs, they carry the puck down ice, and…..Allison is still offsides.
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that was hilarious. everyone was booing allison and yelling at him to get onside
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 17, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I love twitter
LINEUP:
MacDonald, Reimer, Schenn, Komisarek, Hagman, Stempniak, Kaberle, Hanson, Ponikarovsky, Ondrus, Gunnarsson, Rosehill, Kulemin, Bozak, Kadri, Stalberg, Wallin, Grabovski, Rogers, Blacker
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I have high hopes for Gunnarsson, he’s the new Straleman!
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I posted that on the front page already: http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2009/9/17/1034795/tonights-leafs-lineup-tonights
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Of all the Stajan hate around here. The guy is a top six forward no matter how you want to slice it, and trust me, I’ve got a fan post coming that does a lot of slicing.
But, for starters – there were 156 players designated as centres who played 41 or more games last year. Of those players Matt Stajan ranked:
74th in Games Played – 69 centres played more games, 10 centres tied
68th in Goals Scored – 64 centres scored more goals, 6 centres tied
19th in Assists – 18 centres earned more assists, no centres tied
33rd in Total Points – 32 centres scored more points, no centres tied
86th in Plus/Minus – 84 centres had a higher Plus/Minus, 6 centres tied
36th in PIM – 35 centres had more PIMs, 1 centre tied
92nd in Shots on Goal – 91 centres took more shots on goal, no ties
33rd in shooting percentage – 33 centres had a better shooting percentage, no ties
59th in face-off percentage – 57 centres had a better face-off percentage, 1 centres tied
Those numbers put him above a meridian of 78 in all categories but two. Trust me, he ain’t elite level talent but he’s a second liner on most teams in the league.
And those numbers only get better in terms when you start comparing him to all the forwards in the NHL who played more then half a season last year. In that case there’s 382 forwards and Stajan ranked:
164th in Games Played – 161 forwards played more games, 14 players tied
168th in Goals Scored – 157 forwards scored more goals, 18 players tied
42nd in Assists – 37 players earned more assists, 4 players tied
77th in Total Points – 76 players scored more points, no ties
226 in Plus/Minus – 223 players had a higher Plus/Minus, 11 players tied
120th in PIM – 119 players had more PIMs, 3 players tied
224th in Shots on Goal – 223 players took more shots on goal, 3 players tied
88th in shooting percentage – 87 players had a better shooting percentage, no ties
85th in face-off percentage – 82 players had a better face-off percentage, three tied
He’s above the meridian in all categories but two (+/- and Shots on Goal), and is in the 75th percentile in four categories. Those are not the numbers of a guy who should be stuck on third line duty, and to say that he doesn’t fit into Burke’s top six/bottom six mold is, frankly, completely silly.
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by Pamplemousse on Sep 17, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions
That is quite the impassioned defence. Woulda made a hell of a fanpost ;)
In my case at least, it’s not hatred for Stajan right now. I appreciate what he brings for the salary he is paid and have been glad to see him improve in every NHL season.
What I don’t like is the idea of Stajan getting the Maple Leafs’ raise because long-term he isn’t going to be the first or second line centre of a contending team.
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this
is the point of trading him.
i know it’s an unfamiliar concept but the whole, trade a player while he’s at peak value really applies to Stajan right now…
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exactly
seeing those Sharks fan fawn over him really shocked me.
If other teams like him that much, get something good for him now.
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I personally don’t hate Stajan, I just don’t think he’s anything special either. He’s good, not great. Do I think we’re better without him, not really. Do I think we’re worse with him, no. He is a good depth player, I don’t question that. What concerns me is his label as one of our only two “top 6”. I am of the opinion that Hagman, Poni and Blake are better than Stajan.
Again, just one man’s opinion. Don’t take it to heart.
those guys are all wingers, I havnt seen Wallin play, but right now he is the best two way center the leafs have
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
well he was leading scorer on his team in the SEL, so you never know
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 17, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sleza found this
Thrashers bring Maxim Afinogenov in for pro tryout.
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Cox has a hard-on for Beauchemin
and rightfully so.
I won’t link to the blog
Peace
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I was going to link it to make a cheap Todd Gill joke to make Godd Till angry but I just e-mailed him instead.
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