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Catheter Ablation and Jonas Gustavsson: My Perspective

Editor's Note: 4ever3 of the SBN site NASCAR Ranting and Raving, and a denizen of Hamilton, ON, was kind enough to share his experiences with catheter ablations. He has undergone the procedure and his experience follows.

Hey there I was asked by PPP to write about this so here goes.

Leafs rookie goalie Jonas Gustavsson recently had a catheter ablation done on his heart and about a year ago I had a similar procedure.

What this particular surgery does is correct a nerve problem with the heart.

To put it a simply as I can your heart works on an alternating current (ie. beat, rest, beat, rest, etc.) but in some people an extra nerve grows on the heart that is direct current that sometimes over-rides the AC nerve telling the heart to beat, beat, beat, etc. without resting.

A lot of us don't know that we have this problem because the heart eventually corrects itself after the DC nerve takes over, and it is not until our heart doesn't re-set itself and our hearts don't slow down that we realize we have a problem.

I was told by the Doctor that those of us who have this problem are born with the extra nerve and there is nothing that we can do to prevent it from happening.

In my case it happened after running one day, my heart just wouldn't settle down so after about two hours (I didn't say anything for the first hour) of this we called an ambulance that way I wouldn't have to wait in the Emergancy waiting room to get seen.

Star-divide

Once I was in the ambulance they tried to get my heart slowed down by having me do a series of breathing techniques and some other things all of which didn't work so they had to administer a drug into my IV that made my heart stop beating for two whole seconds - not long I know, but it felt like an hour - and that eventually reset my heart.

I was then taken to hospital where they monitored me for about 45 min and then released me.

I was not allowed to do anything to significantly increase my heart rate for 72 hrs - my neighbours had to shovel the driveway for me.

I then saw the heart surgeon a month later and he filled me in and told me what they wanted to do.  I agreed to it otherwise I'd be on Beta-blockers for the rest of my life with no guarantees that my problem wouldn't come back or when.  I do some travelling to other less- privileged countries than ours (ie. Cuba) from time to time and there is no way that I'd want to be in another country if that were to happen again.

They did an ultra-sound of my heart two days before the surgery to make sure I didn't have any other heart problems.  Now this ultra sound was done differently - they stick it down your throat and do if from inside your throat.  Fortunately they gave me too much sedative and I fell asleep during this.

I was nervous the day of the surgery let me tell you.  The most significant surgery I ever had was having a mole removed from my shoulder and now I was looking at heart surgery - ugh.

I was told that they didn't know where the extra DC nerve was located and they wouldn't know until the operation.  Apparently that is the norm for this type of condition.

If the extra DC nerve was located on the right side of my heart it would be a quick procedure and if it were on my left side it would take longer.  Also, if it were located too close to the main AC nerve they would not continue because they could also kill that nerve and then I would require a pace-maker and my problem wasn't deemed significant enough for them to do that.

With this particular surgery they don't cut open your chest, instead they get to your heart through your arteries.  They go up through your groin to your heart and in through your neck - both on the right side.

Through these openings they stick in a series of camera's and operational tools.

The operating table looked like a video gamers dream with about 4 monitors above it so everyone can see what is going on inside of me.  All medical equipment, monitors, etc. were hooked into a central control booth with a person sitting inside overseeing everything - to me it looked like the sound booth in a recording studio.

It was also cold in there.

They put me to sleep and I woke up about 3.5 hrs later with them still working on me.  I didn't know it at the time but the surgery is only supposed to last about 2 hrs but I stayed in there for 4.

When I woke up they were about to call it quits as they couldn't get to the nerve.

They had tested all the other nerves on my heart without much luck.  What they do is give each nerve an electrical stimulus to see if it will kick start my heart into overdrive and the last one they checked was the 'one' and wouldn't you know it, it was in a difficult spot almost too close to the AC nerve to kill.

Fortunately for me the Resident Doctor was willing to give it one more try before throwing in the towel and I had a ring-side seat for the action.

The nurse moved some stuff around in my neck and the Dr moved some stuff around in my groin and they went after it.  When he tried to zap it with intense radio waves the first time I felt this warm sensation in my chest, more on the left side than the right, that eventually increased to what felt like a really bad case of heart-burn.

He didn't get it.

Some more movement in my neck and groin.

Some friendly banter between the booth man and Dr.

Some Hail Marys by me.

Another bad case of heart burn.

Some testing with electrical current to get the nerve active and my heart racing.

Nothing.

Another test.

Still nothing.

The operation was a success!

They had everything out of me in a manner of minutes and I was wheeled to recovery where I feel asleep again.

A few hours later I woke up with a stiff neck and what felt like a minor groin pull along with a head ache.

I went back to sleep.

A few more hours later the headache felt better and the Doctors were all standing around me.

After a few tests and conversation I was released, until I stood up and got light headed.  They then decided to keep me overnight for more observations.  No one thought (including me) that it could have been because I hadn't had anything to eat in almost 24hrs as it was 5 pm now and you are not allowed to eat for about 8 hrs before you operation so that meant that I hadn't had anything to eat since about 10 pm the night before.

I stayed the night and slept almost the whole time and when 9 am came around the next morning I was discharged.

Let me tell you my back hurt worse from that hospital bed than my neck or groin did from the surgery.

I wasn't allowed to do anything strenuous for about 2 weeks for fear of opening my wounds and bleed-out as there were no stitches applied; only band-aids.  No worries about my heart.

I wasn't allowed to wear briefs either because the elastic portion of the leg would be right on the wound.

I was back running in 4 days though and the wound on my neck looked like I cut myself shaving.

Actually my neck hurt worse than my groin, it was a bit stiff for a few days where as my groin didn't bother me at all.

Based on my experience, my speculation is that the recovery time that Gustavsson is looking at is not for his heart to recover but rather for his wounds to heal enough for him to quickly turn his head to see the action across the ice and then do the splits in the goal crease stopping a 100 mph slap shot from the point.

This turned out to be a longer than I thought it was going to be so for that I apologize but I hope you now have a better sense of what a catheter ablation operation entails.

See ya.

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Hey, nice write up.

Currently tracking outbreaks of Hogtown Flu, specifically the LS02 strain.

by Robot Godzilla on Sep 21, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Again

I hope I explained it well enough for everyone to understand. I hate Tech jargon.

by 4ever3 on Sep 21, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

you did an awesome job. Thanks for sharing your story… I hope PPP compensated you well ;)

"Life is just a place where we spend time between games. Hockey is where we live, where we can best meet and overcome pain and wrong and death." - Fred Shero

by Karina on Sep 21, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for sharing 4ever3. Great to see a medical summary from a personal standpoint. Hope to see you around here in the future.

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by bkblades on Sep 21, 2009 1:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank you for sharing such a personal and inciteful story. I had no idea what an ablation was but sort of freaked when I first saw the words “heart procedure”. I’m glad it went smoothly for you and I hope the Monster heals soon so we can watch him in some preseason action.

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by Hungry Leafs Fan on Sep 21, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

We'll see him soon

and you won’t notice any difference in his play after this I’m sure.

by 4ever3 on Sep 21, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you chuck Norris...?
They put me to sleep and I woke up about 3.5 hrs later with them still working on me.

I mean, holy crap dude. I’d have soiled the operating table quite quickly if that were me.

Thanks for the first hand account. Very easy to read and understand. Sorry to hear you had to go through something this scary…

"Sanity is not statistical." - George Orwell, a Leafs fan...
Stalk me here...

by blurr1974 on Sep 21, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

This.

“Holy crap, dude” is right. Glad to hear you are well now; hoping the same holds true for the Monster.

jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog

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by jrwendelman on Sep 21, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chuck Norris

from Missing in Action for sure.

Actually the way I was on the table I really couldn’t move around enough to see any of the stuff sticking out of me and the monitors were just out of my eye and it didn’t really hurt. The heart burn part hurt more than the moving of the instruments.

by 4ever3 on Sep 21, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

still

that’s one to tell the ladies.

“ya, i woke up during heart surgery, waited for the doctor’s to finsih up before saying anything.”

/flex

“how YOU doin’?”

"Sanity is not statistical." - George Orwell, a Leafs fan...
Stalk me here...

by blurr1974 on Sep 21, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to

the bar tonight to try my luck with that line. Thanks! lol.

by 4ever3 on Sep 21, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do let us know how it works for you.

And to reiterate what everyone has said, many thanks for this personal insight. Glad you’re back on your feet.

"If drunken antics are wrong, I don’t want to be right." - Cornelius Hardenbergh

by Mabel on Sep 21, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for sharing. I’m glad you are OK, and this certainly puts me more at ease in regards to Gustavsson.

Is it October yet?

by floridaLEAF on Sep 21, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Do you feel like post-operation your abilities to shut down NHL shooters were affected?

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Pertinent question.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 21, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Non What so ever

I felt and feel just as good as before the operation and actually I’ve noticed my reduced heart time is faster than it used to be so in fact I’m better.

by 4ever3 on Sep 21, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent.

 * tents fingers *

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That should read

… I’ve noticed my reduced heart rate time is faster to getting back to normal after exercise than it used to be …

by 4ever3 on Sep 21, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re awesome, Chemmy.

"If drunken antics are wrong, I don’t want to be right." - Cornelius Hardenbergh

by Mabel on Sep 21, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

cuba

i live in canada, and have spent in total about 4 years in cuba.

if i had your problem, and i had too chose between having it happen in Cuba or the United States, i would choose Cuba in a second.

Cuba has some of the best well trained doctors in the world, and free healthcare, they also have the higest ratio of doctors to citizens in the world.

i concede that there is sometimes a shortage of medical equiptment, but not for lack of want, the American Embargo has been extremely detrimental to Cuba, and the World Health Organization estimates that if Cuba had a Healthcare System more similar to the USA’s then too its current one, the Embargo likely would have directly resulted in the death of 1.5 million people, which is over 15% of the Population.

even with this blatantly criminal embargo,amazingly, the life expectancy of Cuba is higher the the United States life expectancy, and suprisingly they have exported over 40,000 dollars to less privileged countrys.

and while i dont condone, nor support the Stalinist perversion of the originally well meaning ideas of Marx, nor do i condone the atrocities that have been committed, in cuba and other so called “Communist” Countries, it is clear there has been some amazing acheivements.

so too conclude, since i make less then 45,000 dollars, and dont have thousands of dollars to spend i would without a doubt prefer too be in Cuba, then in United States, if i had a problem such as this.

otherthen that, good article, and GO LEAFS GO,

i was at the great! game on saturday against philly where we won in OT and it was friggin amazing, and it was the day after the kessel trade, and he was there, and they interviewd him on the big screen.

also, i havent heard an ACC crowd that excited or loud before as it was in the third period. we were even doing the wave non stop.

great game, and cleary this city is more excited about this season, then it has been about a season in a LONG time.

by nikolaou on Sep 21, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for truth.

"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09

by kidkawartha on Sep 21, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

No offence meant to Cuba

Honestly that was the first thing that I typed without really thinking, I could have easily typed USA or Nigera for that matter – sorry. As far as life expectancy goes that is very interesting indeed – things that make you go hmm …

by 4ever3 on Sep 21, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just in case ...

I’ve never been to Nigera I was just using it as an example of any other place in the world – I’m sure their health care system is fine too. The point was I didn’t want to be anywhere else (including other parts of Canada) other than here if it were to happen again.

by 4ever3 on Sep 21, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if you’re a billionaire like everyone in the south of the US who votes against the government helping people out nowhere beats the USA!

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE IS SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST/NAZIREGIME/BAD FOR COMPETITION/FROM TEH DEVIL/BLEARGHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!1

"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09

by kidkawartha on Sep 21, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

welcome

thanks for joining.

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by PPP on Sep 21, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks PPP

NASCAR Ranting and Raving takes up a lot of time, as I’m sure you know, but I’ll try to get back a bit more often and I’ve got a lot of opinions about the Leafs, their operations, and their ownership – among other things. I used to be a die hard Leaf fan but I have grown disenchanted with them over the last 10 yrs, I mean why put a good product on the ice if you’re selling out every game anyway and you’re the number one souvenier selling organization in the NHL? At least that’s how I began to feel 10 yrs ago – things have changed a bit since then.

Take Care.

by 4ever3 on Sep 21, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

things have changed a bit since then.

Good. We’ll get you the rest of the way there ;)

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by PPP on Sep 22, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

just thought i would point it out.

also, i have started a blog with my friend at www.TrucuLeafs.blogspot.com

check it out and tell your friends.

by nikolaou on Sep 21, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice

Added it to the Google Reader lineup

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by PPP on Sep 21, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the writeup

I feel slightly less freaked out about the Monster needing this procedure.

More importantly, glad it worked out well for you.

Being a Leaf fan here requires one to be sufficiently lubricated... and truculent!

by stucky on Sep 22, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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