Leafs 2 Red Wings 1: Waive Toskala
by Chemmy on Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM EDT
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PrintThe facts: Vesa Toskala lets in softies.
Jonas Gustavsson does this:
Power play goals from Stalberg and Gunnarsson bail out Vesa "dogshit" Toskala and power the Leafs to another preseason win. Discuss!
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I have a MONSTER in my pants
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
Well it is hideous, that’s for sure.
-Graham-
by CanadianMaple09 on Sep 26, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
has gustavsson been scored on yet?
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
no
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
how many periods he get this game?
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
2
he’s played a full 60 combined with yesterday
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
/spurt
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
and he looked damn good doing it. He moved well laterally, deflected rebounds away from danger, did a good job tracking the puck through screens and covers a whole lot of the net especially in his butterfly.
I was looking to see if he would be favouring his groin after the procedure but he looked fresh and comfortable in there. Wouldn’t even have known that he just had a heart procedure.
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Sep 26, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
also insane, his rebound control
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
2 periods
and one last night so he technically has a shutout
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Sep 26, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 1 goal in that rookie tournament. I believe it was off a deflection.
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Sep 26, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a deflection headed right at his chest that got tipped down and went five hole. The Leafs won 3-1.
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Waive Toskala
And then reacquire him and waive him again until he learns how to cut down angles
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Sep 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
trade him to the islanders, they need another goalie
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldn’t a team like Calgary use a backup that may actually win a game once in a while?
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Sep 26, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Calgary doesn’t have $4M to spend on a backup.
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the great thing about that save
is the volume in the ACC
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
that was amazing, it was like the world screamed out in on voice
“I have seen the light, and it is bendy and swedish”
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its the other way around man
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Sep 26, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
there is only one god, and he is thick with mustachulence and truculence
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Gustavsson
is the Holy Ghost in this trinity.
Monster = ghost
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
He’s Odin, the Father of the Gods.
Stalberg is Thor, and will bring it on Thorsday.
Gunnarsson is Magni, the God of Strength.
that’s a grab bag of theology there…
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
and
it somehow excludes OLAS and Wendel. >:(
or, it’s a grab bag
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we also do a lot of Christian Theology.
Wonder when someone will start to complain….
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Only one Odin my good man. (see below.)
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by Travis Hair on Sep 27, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Toskala was a beast in SJ when playing in a tandem with Nabokov. Toskala is going to be unreal this year.
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
I hope they work the tandum angle, right up to the point where we can trade him for Horton straight up
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i think that’s Burke’s thinking. he’s going to recoup some of those picks from the Kessel trade.
they may not be 1st rounders, but he’ll definitely be active in the 2nd round
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yah, i think he’s gonna end up with a wack of seconds and thirds for his spare parts
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Toskala’s .895 preseason save percentage is definitely a harbinger of future success!
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he’s only played with Gustavsson in two of those games, and despite the goals that went past him last night, he still looked decent. much better than last year.
5 GAA over 2 games gives him a 2.50 GAA. don’t broadcast the SV%, maybe Don Waddell will trade for him…
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Toskala is horrible and is already flopping and giving up softies.
If the Leafs are serious about playing whoever gives them the best chance of success then Toskala’s ass is riding pine until Gustavsson wants a night off.
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That goal tonight was fucking brutal and a real back breaker.
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i missed the Toskala goals, only got to see the last half of the 3rd.
still, i think he looks better than last year.
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
so does the economy, that doesnt mean its good
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
But he looked pretty bad last year :S
I think just because of the heart issue Toskala will start the season but it’s going to be a short leash.
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i think Burke expects Wilson to get the best performance out of Toskala so he can flip him by the deadline
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they work the tandem of Gustavsson and MAcDonald
by The Meatriarchy on Sep 26, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
ding ding ding ding ding
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Yeah. What?
Hey it’s Justin from The Goalie Guild. I would just like to say that from a strictly scouting perspective…ummm…yeahhh that’s the type of save you can’t teach. Sick.
When I look at the leg extension involved in that save from the overhead camera it’s not the distance his right leg covers that’s amazing, but the angle at which it travels from his body to the post. Look at it and pause it. It’s insanity. He cuts off angles like I’ve really never seen before…his style is unique for sure. Sick.
by TheAvalancheGuild on Sep 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
eeeeeeee
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
so what you're saying is
this feeling in my pants is completely natural?
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s 100% natural, we shall all feel it during the season
All Hail the mighty Brian Burke
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Sep 26, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Call a doctor
…if it lasts more than four hours
(and brag)
by theothervatican on Sep 26, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. The only kind that you’re allowed to have last more than six hours maybe. But I guess Leafs fans would be happy with six years. Prolonngged goalie euphoria. It was obvious months ago…too bad for the Stars and Sharks and Avs.
by TheAvalancheGuild on Sep 26, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Pause it at 1:13
Yeah freeze framing it from 1:11 to 1:14 is pretty much the best thing I could possibly ask for to get pumped up for the season.
There’s a reason I drafted him in the 6th round of my fantasy league =D
by TheAvalancheGuild on Sep 26, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I also like freeze framing it from 0:48-0:59 to realize the true skills this man possesses.
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Sep 26, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i like watching it on perpetual loop
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for coming over and analyzing stuff like that. I played goal growing up, love you goalie guild folks.
Are you TheGoalieGuild on Twitter?
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Yep it's me =D
Yes that is me and hey no problem any time. I had to register under my Avs site name. I’ve always enjoyed your stuff as well, especially the felixpotvin handle on Twitter!! BAHAHA. Your site is my #1 source for the Leafs for sure.
Anyways I have been a massive Gustavsson “advocate” since back in February when I first saw a bunch of video on him. I would say that Gustavsson is obviously one of the best prospects in the world to have played less than five NHL regular season games. I think he is #6 or 7 on my Top-50 Keeper League Prospects list.
Only one save, but just the way in which he made it was pretty insane.
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THIS
Feels really good to read.
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by Archimedies on Sep 26, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Obvious
Yeah…I mean pre-season game or not, it’s really obvious that Gustavsson has elite skills. But it’s more the combination of size and quick feet that make him so good. It’s exactly like what fans see when they watch Craig Anderson for the first time live. They both have a presence in the crease that can’t be overlooked. I’d think after a few months that Gus-Gust
But like every other elite goalie in this league, the game is pretty much 90% mental. I hope he can show some consistency when points are on the line. Nevertheless, I can’t wait to see how many games he wins this year!
by TheAvalancheGuild on Sep 26, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
His size is such a change from Toskala. Toskala gets lost in the traffic. Gustavsson wades in and sees everything.
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Exactly...
Yeah think of it this way…
If you’re gonna go rob a bank and you knew you’d get away with it … would you take a big stretchy bag or would you take a smaller tin barrel??? Hip surguries are brutal on goalies … just ask Antero Niittymaki.
by TheAvalancheGuild on Sep 26, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
he still doesn’t seem 100% :(
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Yeah I noticed that also from watching the games on NHLNetwork. Definitely looks stronger and sharper though.
Because of his injuries and his size, it’s very tough to say Toskala is going to out-perform Gustavsson, no matter how much I like them both. Straight up, hip injuries and meniscus (knee) tears are killer on goalies and Jonas has a crazy presence in there. To me, since the day Gustavsson signed, it became a question of when he takes over, not if.
by TheAvalancheGuild on Sep 26, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa
Clicked too early.
I’d think after a few months that Gus-Gus could easily become the #1 for you guys.
by TheAvalancheGuild on Sep 26, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s ok. We’re excited too :)
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AMAZING
Just got back from the game. The place exploded when he made that save. Gustavsson battled through all of the traffic (and the Red Wings made a point of crashing his crease) and he laughed in their face.
Pre-season GAA: 0.00
Pre-season Sv%: 1.000
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He is surely one of the gods.
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Sep 26, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy Fuck
You go to a lot of games.
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by Archimedies on Sep 26, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Not really. I just got lucky with pre-season tickets. I’ll be there tomorrow night. That’s 3 games and then I’ll make one regular season game.
That’s it.
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ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
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That kind of thing is my bag, baby.
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by Archimedies on Sep 26, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Monster makes another cross crease save
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
AMAZING
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
INCREDIBLE LATERAL MOVEMENT
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by Archimedies on Sep 26, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
OTHERWORLDLY REFLEXES
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
WAFFLEBOARD
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 26, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Vesa “dogshit” Toskala
Don’t be so mean to the Vesa. He’s not Raycroft. The season hasn’t even started yet. You’ll see – he’s gonna be good. Real good. Maybe not Luongo-good or Hasek-good, more like Grant Fuhr-good, but still, the Leafs are gonna win with the Vesa in goal.
by general borschevsky on Sep 26, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
preach on general, preach on
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I concur! I laughed out loud when I read Vesa “Dogshit” Tokala, but I don’t think that’s being fair. He got thrown under the bus last season, and he’s a decent goaltender.
I laughed out loud when Wilson said Vesa could have made that save on the 2-on 0 yeeah right
by The Meatriarchy on Sep 26, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
ya
even i ain’t buying that one
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
My uncle and I looked at each other and started laughing.
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How quickly we forget:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qst4c9jAdzA
and:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfC5lu_gXI&feature=related
And those were real NHL games.
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by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
VESA APOLOGIST!
Just kidding, yeah, he’s made some big saves.
But let’s not forget that Toskala isn’t coming over to Toronto on a high note. He’s returning from a mediocre and a terrible season and multiple off-season surgeries.
He’s got to prove himself.
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He’s returning from a mediocre and a terrible season and multiple off-season surgeries.
Where he played behind an atrociously bad defensive Leafs team and those surgeries were necessary long before last season ended.
"Hey, when I was traded, it was just a draft pick! What ever would you complain about if New Jersey had picked Scott Lachance?"
by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Lots of goalies have played behind shitty defences and put up at least an average sv%. Toskala was barely average and below average in two years.
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Put up better numbers on an even shittier team last year.
(Chemmy told me all this in gchat earlier, and I’m just regurgitating it)
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by Archimedies on Sep 26, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Yeah, .901 on the freaking Islanders.
VeTo needs to prove himself.
So does Gustavsson but he’s obviously starting from a better platform with the fans.
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I’m amazed how fast some people turn on these guys. He was playing injured because Pogge couldn’t hack it and Joseph was done.
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by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
How fast people turn on him?
Are you serious? did you just start watching him play when he finally admitted that he was injured?
He was garbage for most of his first year with the Leafs and not much changed last year. I doubt he played all year with an injury and if he did then fuck him for hiding it even longer than we previously thought that he did.
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Really? Let’s see. In 07-08, he had a better sv% and gaa than Cam Ward. Yeah, he was garbage. Guess Carolina should have gave up on Ward too right?
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by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
how old is Cam Ward…?
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Yeah, I forgot that time Vesa carried a team to the Stanley Cup with his goaltending. Silly me.
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And that nothing to do with the rest of the Leafs roster as well right?
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by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
What was Ward’s sv% last year?
.916
Toskala’s
.891
Check out his H-R.com page. He’s trending downward and just had a couple of serious surgeries.
He most definitely has to prove himself and he’s not coming from a position of strength in terms of the confidence he provides the fans.
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To be concise Vesa “dogshit” Toskala sucks.
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I remember that time Vesa Toskala played over 3,000 minutes at under an .891 save percentage.
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Behind who? Defense is a team job.
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by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
save percentage is a measure of a goalies ability
that’s why Chemmy did not quote GAA – team stat
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s not the only measure of a goalie’s ability. And as with all percentages, the number of shots faced can greatly affect how much the percentage changes with each goal against.
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by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t have a hate on for Toskala, but if Jonas can play well on his starts and outplay Vesa, the only logical conclusion is that this is Vesa’s last year.
Jonas is younger, bigger and more positionally sound. Also he is confidant and has that intense attitude. I remember Toskala after a bad loss(there were lots of them) and he was just shrugging them off.
when Jonas loses a game, I will be interested to see if he shows some anger at himself.. and disappointment..
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I was Gustavsson to pull a Rask after a loss.
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bring on the ape shit rant!
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes I did, and he hasn’t played very well in the preseason, but I’m not ready to dump him yet. He let in one goal, not 5.
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by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He hasn’t played well since 2006. He sucks.
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My friend Chemmy here is not as forgiving as I.
Then again, I want to trade Vesa for a marketable asset, and Chemmy’s solution would be much more abrupt and permanent.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah paupers would like to sell their turds to people for money but sometimes you don’t have anything of value.
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I want to trade Vesa for a marketable asset,
I can agree with that logic.
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by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
However, he has to turn into a marketable asset :S
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He also let in 5 last night.
And he let in one goal on what? 7 shots tonight?
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Dont get me wrong, I still have faith in Vesa, but those are the type of goals VEsa let in WAY too much last year.
Those goals fall directly on the shoulders of the goalies.
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Vesa wasn’t hung out to dry last season either. He gets beat with shots outside that FUCKING HIT HIM ON HIS STUPID BODY.
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.891 is unacceptable regardless of defense in front of him.
Joey MacDonald put up a .901 behind the Islanders defense.
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And to make it worse, Because Raycroft finished better then him…. it means Eyebleaf won’t make fun of Raycroft anymore…. a serious loss
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RAYCROFT WAS BETTER THAN TOSKALA
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Martin Gerber’s SV%: .902
Andrew Raycroft’s SV%: .892
Vesa Toskala’s SV%: .891
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One one-thousanth of a save percentage does not make someone better. Raycroft had no presence and was an apathetic miserable jerk who hardly cared or tried. Vesa tries. Sometimes he sucks, but sometimes he tries, and he never gives up on a play.
Raycroft was garbage.
by general borschevsky on Sep 26, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Raycroft had no presence and was an apathetic miserable jerk who hardly cared or tried.
Sounds like someone else we watched 53 times last year.
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No way
I’m not sure what the Vesa’s problem is but I don’t think it’s attitude. I think he’s got heart and this season it’ll show.
by general borschevsky on Sep 26, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah?
Raycroft’s season that was soooo bad we had to ship a first off to San Jose for Toskala had Raycroft with an .894 sv%.
Toskala last year was an .891.
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Unbelievable how much stock people put in one stat. Toskala did not steal any games for us at all last season, it’s all about sv%. Horse shit.
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by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude
Considering how much stock you put in plus/minus in defending Kadri a few days back…
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Holy hell, I didn’t put much stock in +/- man, I didn’t even mention it in my post. It was a response to a specific criticism. I wasn’t basing my opinion on one stat.
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by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Save percentage works to highlight what we saw with our eyes when Toskala was letting in what felt like one bad bad goal a game.
Give us some other stats to prove us wrong then.
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true
and Cam Ward had who on his defense…? Kaberle the lesser and a bunch spare parts…
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
And the two sv%s?
Toskala: .905
Ward: .904
Yeah, Toskala smoked him.
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I’m not turning on anybody. But the biggest part of goaltending is confidence. Not only does a goaltender have to have confidence in himself, but his teammates have confidence in him, and so do the fans.
I had that confidence in Potvin.
I had that confidence in Joseph.
I had that confidence in Belfour.
I feel like I’m going to have that confidence in Gustavsson.
I have never had that confidence in Toskala.
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I pity Gustavsson the first bad string of games he has.
"Hey, when I was traded, it was just a draft pick! What ever would you complain about if New Jersey had picked Scott Lachance?"
by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
That first time he plays over 7000 minutes of terrible hockey the fans will suddenly and with no reason turn on him.
For shame!
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7000 minutes of terrible hockey
Wow, really? Well I can see I’m not going anywhere on this one.
"Hey, when I was traded, it was just a draft pick! What ever would you complain about if New Jersey had picked Scott Lachance?"
by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Toskala did play some good games for the Leafs, but from what I can remember he stole MAYBE one or two games.
that wont cut it here, we are too used to Potvin, Cujo and Belfour – not that they didn’t have warts.. but when they were at their best they were unbeatable… Toskala does not seem to have that.. Gustavsson might – and I sure hope so
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Amazing how Ron Wilson (you know the guy coaching the team) has faith in him, given his garbage sv%.
"Hey, when I was traded, it was just a draft pick! What ever would you complain about if New Jersey had picked Scott Lachance?"
by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Now you are just being facetious about the save % thing.
Wilson is giving Toskala what he needs, confidence. He is getting a chance to return to form. He will get his fair look and then we will all see what the future holds
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilson is giving Toskala what he needs, confidence.
As well as a season behind a strong defense and a season learning from the best goalie coach in the world.
Give it a bit of time.
"Hey, when I was traded, it was just a draft pick! What ever would you complain about if New Jersey had picked Scott Lachance?"
by Tom Kurvers on Sep 26, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Except
if things turn out the way I see them unfolding, he will not be spending the full season here.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Toskala’s been getting a fair look and must believe in God given Gustavsson’s heart injury.
.895 PRESEASON SAVE PERCENTAGE.
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LOWER THAN 895 BECAUSE HE STUNK OUT THE JOINT TONIGHT
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Toskala has an .892 save percentage this preseason. Does he expect to have a job playing like that?
.892 is horseshit. It’s probably lower than any number of guys who will be suiting up in the ECHL this year.
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It fucking stuns me too.
When you add up the terrible sv%, the brutal goals he let in with regularity last year, the fact that Ron Wilson himself has said that this year he has worked much, much harder than he did last year, the fact that Brian Burke called him out publicly for being terrible, and the fact that he hid his injury until said calling out it is mind-boggling that he can have so much confidence in him.
Of course, when you consider that he can’t quite call him dog shit and expect to get good play out of him or turn him into a marketable asset it makes a little more sense.
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Wilson
Has been pretty adamant that Allaire is going to help a lot.
…and that Toskala is still struggling to pick up a lot of what Allair has been teaching.
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by Archimedies on Sep 26, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he is little and he is coming off major surgery.
All things that add to a distinct lack of confidence in him.
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Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Stranger things have happened. Lets not ‘Hab’ him out the door just yet.
Give him his opportunity, give Jonas his opportunity and let he who is the better goalie take the job.
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Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He’ll get his chance but I am just saying that I do not have confidence in him and it’s not exactly an insane position to take.
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I agree 100%. My confidence in him is not at an all time high either.
Personally, I think Jonas will win out eventually, but for once I feel I can trust our management and coaching staff to make the right decision for the betterment of our team. Gustavsson will be the starter, if not this year than next.
I don’t see us re-signing Toskala.. he will either be traded or he will walk unless something unthinkable happens to the Monster.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
In Toronto:
Shots Against: 3342
Saves Made: 3001
Sv % of (drum roll please!): .898
Please, make Toskala the starter!
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Vesa needs to drink this
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by Archimedies on Sep 26, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
also
Vesa wasn’t stopping a 2 on 0…
"Sanity is not statistical." - George Orwell, a Leafs fan...
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing that always strikes me when I watch those videos (and other Vesa highlights) is the amount of times those spectacular saves had to be made because of his poor rebound control. He makes his job more difficult than it should be.
This
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately there’s also this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meFICJYORvA
by WendelMadeMe on Sep 27, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Just after he said that he looked at his feet like a guilty schoolchild who just told a lie and the whole room went silent for about five seconds.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 27, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
To be honest, I really don’t know if Toskala will be great this season – I really hope so, and if he isn’t I’ll never understand why they ended his season prematurely for surgery, but honestly, he’s not Raycroft. He’s a million, zillion, trillion times better then Raycroft. That guy you can call dogshit.
by general borschevsky on Sep 26, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If it was up to me I’d back the bus up over Toskala to make sure he was done.
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A MESSAGE FROM VIKTOR STALBERG
Hey guys, it’s me!
I know I’m usually a pretty low-key and soft-spoken polite guy, but: HOLY SHIT DID YOU SEE HOW FUCKING PIMP I AM ON THE ICE? FUUUUUUUUUUCK!
Hope you enjoyed the game,
Sincerely,
Viktor
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by Archimedies on Sep 26, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Sick hands
The winning goal was LOVELY to say the least.
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I love these. This is a really good tradition to keep up this season.
by general borschevsky on Sep 26, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks!
I really, really like making them. They make me laugh really hard.
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by Archimedies on Sep 26, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on with the Vesa Bashing… honestly – who could compare favourably to the Monster????
Let the Vesa bask in the glow of the Monster and play tandem until someone needs a starter…
then trade the Vesa… sorry. we have seen the future and his name is Jonas Gustavsson
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Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
Post-Game
I didn’t get a chance to watch it yet.
Were there any Wilson gems?
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Not really
Definitely no,
“we’ve cut all of the guys in the media”
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HILARIOUSLY RELATED STORY:
Justin Pogge will start another NHL campaign in the minors as the Ducks have sent the 23-Year old to San Antonio of the AHL.
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Looks like a 6th round pick for us!
yay?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. I laughed at that. Another obvious result. He was lit up against the Sharks.
It’s also hilarious to think that Burke dumped Pogge on his former team and took their wizard goalie coach all in the same summer. BAHAHA.
by TheAvalancheGuild on Sep 26, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He gave up 6 goals last night!
Fuck, so much for having confidence in him finding his game.
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GUSTAVSSON IS NOT IMPRESSED BY YOUR SHOT
GUSTAVSSON RECOMMENDS RITUAL SUICIDE
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if i ever tried to do that with my legs – i might as well commit suicide – the pain would be too much to bear.
I just passed out and came to after looking at that picture.
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I used to be able to when I stretched and worked out every day.
Now at 25 my left hip makes this gross noise when it isn’t fully seated in its socket. :(
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ARE YOU SHITTING ME?
IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?
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by Archimedies on Sep 26, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
On a total aesthetics note
I’m really digging the pads and mask design from Gustavsson. The white backdrop works extremely well with the blue accents.
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Yeah, that's a new desktop background
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by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 27, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Even without legs, he covers half the net
by WendelMadeMe on Sep 27, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Olympics
Everyone is talking about the Russian olympic team, but after watching the pre-season (and assuming that douche-bag Alfredsson is still alive), I’m more nervous about the Swedish team. Take 1/2 of the Detroit Red Wings, throw in dick-face from Ottawa, add Stalberg and put The Monster between the pipes, and you’ve got a pretty good team. Thoughts?
by Another Good Kingston Boy on Sep 26, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions
As much as we love the Monster, no way in hell Lundqvist isn’t the goalie for Sweden.
Though Sweden is definitely one of canada’s biggest competitors.
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Yeah
That too. So they’ll definitely be dangerous
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Definitely the big three favourites are Canada, Russia and Sweden.
Also rans would be USA USA USA! Czechs and Finland.
Those are your medal hopefuls, folks… the rest of you thanks for coming out.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you think Sundin will play in the Olympics? Or will he wait until next April to decide if he should?
by Another Good Kingston Boy on Sep 26, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
He already said he’s out. I think it’s gotta be a matter of time before he retires.
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I think it’s gotta be a matter of time before he retires.
Probably some time after his first kid graduates from college
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Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think he’ll retire soon t………Megan Fox is on SNL – bye.
by Another Good Kingston Boy on Sep 26, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
They’ll definitely have a good squad but it’s the Russians that are the biggest threats I think.
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The key to the Russians is being able to keep the puck away from their top two lines.
If you can do that, please call Steve Yzerman and Mike Babcock because they would really like to know
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nabby and Bryzy would be a tough tandem
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by blurr1974 on Sep 26, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Russia wont have a deep defence, but the really only need 7 guys.
Volchenkov is one of them.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Wooo! Saw that save live from all the way across the rink! Standing Ovation in Preseason! Wooo!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Sep 26, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
That’s the loudest I have heard the ACC this Millennium
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Naw
I was at game 3 of the ECF against Carolina. When the Leafs scored I couldn’t hear my buddy beside me speak.
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Playoffs are in a league of their own.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Sep 26, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
and since it has been so long, i had forgotten.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the fight filled game against the Flyers was loud and then a Monster’s tentacle made a save, and it was epic.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Sep 26, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Monster’s tentacle
Rec’d.
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by Down Goes Brown on Sep 26, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear “Emily”…
Get in line.
Regards,
Every woman in Toronto (and 20-30% of the men)
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by Down Goes Brown on Sep 26, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions
only 20-30%?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Sep 26, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Over/Under on Gustavsson courting one of the many beautiful Toronto women within the year?
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Sep 27, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Anywho.. one more game against the life-force sucking Sabres.
Anywho.. one more game against the life-force sucking Sabres.Gnite all
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
weird how it does that some times… doubles stuff up
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 26, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
sabres’ evil?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Sep 26, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
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