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2009-2010 Toronto Maple Leafs Season Preview

"This is a day that represents failure. I’m not happy. My teams have been in the playoffs for seven straight years and (missing), it burns my butt. Any day that you have to stand in front of the media and talk about not qualifying for the playoffs should be a kick right in the groin to everyone in the organization. I take it personally and professionally."

- Brian Burke, March 31st, 2009

The anger and disappointment in Brian Burke's voice was evident the day that the Leafs were mathematically eliminated from the 2009 playoffs. In reality, that team had been dead for a long time, a victim of atrocious goaltending, streaky scoring, and a penalty kill that did more to kill the team's hopes than any opposition penalties.

The Leafs are coming off of four years without playoff hockey on the trot. With the lost 2004-2005 season added on the club's loyal fans have now gone half of a decade without seeing a playoff game. Since Jeremy Roenick ended their 2004 playoff run in overtime of game six of the Eastern Conference semi-final the buds' fans have watched as three Canadian teams have taken a shot at the Stanley Cup. The Calgary Flames fell in seven to the Lightning before the Edmonton Oilers suffered the same fate as the hands of the Carolina Hurricanes. Finally, two years ago, we had to watch the Ottawa Senators make it all of the way to the Final before being crushed by Anaheim. So I guess it wasn't all low points. And who was the architect of that Stanley Cup Winning team? It was current Leafs GM Brian Burke who fans hope will be able to re-create his success for the league's second-longest suffering fans.

After the jump, we'll see just how things are progressing.

Star-divide

Who's In

Francois Beauchemin, Tyler Bozak, Garnet Exelby, Jonas Gustavsson, Christian Hanson, Phil Kessel, Mike Komisarek, Colton Orr, Wayne Primeau, Rickard Wallin, Viktor Stalberg

Brian Burke identified two areas where the Leafs were sorely lacking: team toughness and defence. Komisarek and Beaucheming are the big additions to the back end that should help improve both areas. Garnet Exelby adds a bit more NHL-calibre depth as well. Colton Orr's role will be to keep the Leafs' skilled players (stop snickering) from being teed off on night in and night out.

The penalty killing unit will be aided by the additions of Wayne Primeau and Rickard Wallin; two experienced penalty killers that can hopefully improve the league's worst penalty killing unit. Lord knows the goaltending could hardly have gotten worse so Jonas Gustavsson's eventual emergence as the # 1 should help. Failing that, Joey MacDonald posted a .901 sv% behind a defence that features none of Francois Beauchemin, Mike Komisarek or Luke Schenn.

Oh yeah, and Burke made kind of a big deal to bring Phil Kessel to Toronto to fill one of the "elite forward" boxes on his checklist. Hopefully at least one of Tyler Bozak, Christian Hanson, and Viktor Stalberg can help out in this regard.

Who's Out

Boyd Devereaux, Martin Gerber, Ryan Hollweg, Curtis Joseph, Olaf Kolzig, Pavel Kubina, Brad May, Jaime Sifers, Anton Stralman 

The only player of consequence that left was Pavel Kubina and that move was made mostly to free up the cap space needed to sign Mike Komisarek. Everyone else was either washed up (Kolzing, Joseph), surplus (Sifers, Stralman), old and busted (May, Devereaux), or an idiot (Hollweg).

Strengths

Most reporters have the memory of a gold fish. This is why every year since the lockout Leaf fans have been faced with the same question: who is going to score?!?! Well, if fans, critics, and the media wanted to show a bit of knowledge they'd focus on the fact that the Leafs lack 'elite' scorers because if there is one thing that this team can do it is score goals. It isn't consistent and it hasn't been enough but it comes in bucketfulls. Here's a nice chart to hand to any clueless person that asks whether the Leafs will be able to score this year:

Season

Goals/Game
Rank

Powerplay
Rank

2005-2006

9th

2nd

2006-2007

8th

16th

2007-2008

11th

15th

2008-2009

10th

16th

Can you spot the pattern? After every off-season of predicting an offensive meltdown that'll leave the Maple Leafs languishing in a scoring drought that would make Peter Crouch's start to his Liverpool career seem prolific the Leafs have responded by finishing in the top third of team scoring (or a fraction off). The other thing you'll notice is that apart from the first year after the lockout the results have not been as driven by success on the powerplay as you would expect.

As Mirtle noted in his preview, the Leafs might not have a guy go over 65 points but they also have eight that have a good shot at breaking 20 goals this season. Usually balanced scoring like that is viewed as a strength.

Weaknesses

Uhh...Let's start with the most vital position in all of sports: goaltender. Right now, Ron Wilson is standing firmly behind Vesa Toskala. There will be an entire post dedicated to his shortcomings so let's just say that when you're banking on your goalie to return to form and that form is outside of the top 30 in save percentage (and that was his good year!) then you have a problem in net.

And along came a Monster. Now, in the interests of keeping things relatively sane, Toskala is coming off of major surgeries and is working with a new goaltending coach. He could, conceivably, improve. But is he going to rise above his previous high of 31st among goalies? Not likely when he's been consistently trending downwards. But Jonas Gustavsson comes over with a much vaunted pedigree that calls forth names like Henrik Lundqvist (yay!) and Mikael Tellqvist (SON OF A....!). Considering that he is possibly the goalie of the future it behooves the team to give him his shot sooner than later. If he falters at least the team knows that it's time to go back to the drawing board. In this case, his name would be Joey MacDonald.

Prediction

As Down Goes Brown has pointed out, making predictions, much like pimpin', is certainly not easy. But in the words of Eyebleaf: PLAYOFFS!!1. The Leafs' offence may be inconsistent but it'll be helped by the addition of Phil Kessel in November (don't even bother, we know), the possible improvement of Matt Stajan, Mikhail Grabovski, John Mitchell, and the possible re-emergence of Lee "Blue and White Ninja" Stempniak, as well as the possible emergence of Viktor Stalberg as an offensive weapon. They might not all improve or maintain their previous levels of scoring but with Niklas Hagman, Nikolai Kulemin, and Jason Blake in the mix as well as Tyler Bozak and Christian Hanson chomping at the bit to get a shot in the bigs I don't think scoring will be a problem. That's without including the offensive resurgence of Tomas Kaberle or his effect on Francois Beauchemin.

The Leafs' playoff hopes will live and die in net. The defence is, on paper (stupid paper), one of the best in the conference but it's all for naught if the Leafs' have a team sv.% of .895 again. The Leafs have three shots at improving their goaltending in-house: either Toskala magically recaptures his pre-Toronto form, Jonas Gustavsson proves to be the Leafs' goalie of the future, or Joey MacDonald takes over for a shitshow for the second year running and improves on his .901sv% of last season. Once the defence develops some chemistry there won't be an excuse for either of those three to hide behind and I think at least one of them (hint: his name rhymes with bonus) will grab their opportunity by the horns.

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Are the Leafs going to make the playoffs? Make your case in the comments.
Yes - Saving up money as we speak
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No - Planning a golf trip for April
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Playoffs!!!1

(i have no idea if this formatting will work btw lol)

Jesus didn’t need a brother to be great. Neither does Luke Schenn.

by kessticle on Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

success!

Jesus didn’t need a brother to be great. Neither does Luke Schenn.

by kessticle on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

playoffs

I can’t help it. I Be-Leaf.

And you said it all — goaltending will determine it.
I have no worries about scoring or the D. The Pk maybe an issue, and PP will be fine.

If the Leafs get even league-average goaltending, they’re making the playoffs in the East. If.

But they haven’t gotten even consistently average goaltending since Belfour. Belfour!

by pevans on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Bring back belfour!!!1

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Sep 28, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll give you a billion dollars to play for the Leafs

—Drunk Belfour, to himself, in the mirror

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by Jo4nny on Sep 28, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHO VOTED NO?

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I did

But I want to change my vote. I’m looking at the playoff teams from last season, and Montreal is falling out of the top eight, so there’s at least one team getting in. Toronto is much more improved than any non playoff team from last year.

by Evening News Team on Sep 28, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Sep 28, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted “yes” and I don’t feel any need to justify my vote.

-Graham-

by CanadianMaple09 on Sep 28, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

i refuse to beleive that we will miss 5 times in a row…. when we hit 3, it was unheard of…. Honestly, in my opinion, the playoffs will all fall on Gustafsson’s shoulders. Kessel better not be a bitch either, he better show up with some big time goals when we need them when we get close to march

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 28, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

he better show up with some big time goals when we need them when we get close to march

WHEN IT REALLY MATTERS

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 28, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

At the beginning of the off-season, I was not a believer. Not even after the defensive acquisitions, which I considered a good start, but not enough. Since then, the addition of severe fire-power in Kessel, the emergence of Stalberg, the revelation that there’s actually some forward depth in the college kids, and most importantly, the discovery that we have a goalie on the roster who might be above AHL quality has changed my mind. The east probably has 5 playoff spots spoken for, and of the teams vying for the other 3, I think the Leafs have declared their intentions to snag one loudest. Not a lock by any means, but I think the odds are with us getting there, and will increase dramatically once Wilson finally gives up on Toskala. A couple of shrewd moves during the season could even make for a playoff run of more than 4-7 games.

by puckurgently on Sep 28, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

The east probably has 5 playoff spots spoken for

Doubtful. Everyone is basing their predictions on a regular NHL season where there isn’t an Olympic break.

News flash: The Olympics are going to fuck everything up for a number of teams.

In 2006, Ottawa looked like a team that was going to challenge, but Hasek got hurt and they went down the toilet. Detroit looked like a juggernaut and then it’s big guns wore out from the extra miles logged at the Olympics, and they got upset.

The teams that made it far were the fresher teams, who had minimal involvment in the Olympics, and either caught fire down the stretch (Edmonton) or were considered a dark horse candidate and took advantage of everyone else falling by the wayside (Carolina).

Everyone might pencil in Pittsburgh again, but consider that Crosby & Malkin and company have just completed 2 straight 100+ game seasons, and would be asked to do it for a third straight year PLUS about 8 more games due to the Olympics for those two.

There’s a swollen middle class in the East, and the elite are going to be cut down to size by the Olympics.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 28, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

the 2002 and 1998 Detroit Red Wings beg to differ…

seriously though, that’s something I’ve not even thought about. You could be on to something, if one team is especially deep with Olympic roster players.

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by blurr1974 on Sep 28, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, good thing the leafs dont have a ton of players going

crap

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

on that list

the only ones actually going that I see are Kessel (not on the list), Kaberle, and Grabovski.
The only worry there for me is if Kaberle suffers from the Olympics.

"Life is just a place where we spend time between games. Hockey is where we live, where we can best meet and overcome pain and wrong and death." - Fred Shero

by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

komiserek will be there, same with Hagman
I think Beauchemin and Kulemin have legitimate shots
the rest are outside chances, although i dont see belarus not given stefanivich a shot, its not like they are increadibly deep

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh right

I meant to put in Komisarek as well.
Sleza doesn’t think Hagman will be there, I trust her judgement more than my own.
I also doubt Beauchemin will be there.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I really don’t want to see Belarus do what they did at the Worlds and play Grabbo for 30 minutes a night.

That’d make me stabby.

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by article1 on Sep 29, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I voted yes and I have not been sampling the koolaid

before the preseason started, I looked at the east and figured the leafs were probably 50-50 on getting in – depending on a whole slew of factors both internal and external to the Leafs themselves.

Now I am leaning more along the 60-40 split with the potential to climb higher (depending on Goaltending and the Kessel Factor.)

In short… PLAYOFFS!!!1

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 28, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Great article PPP, but the Peter Crouch insult was the extra bit that granted a reccing

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by leafer1984 on Sep 28, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

fuck him

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by Chemmy on Sep 28, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now, Ron Wilson is standing firmly behind Vesa Toskala

Behind Vesa Toskala? I hope he’s wearing a lot of padding to protect himself from all the pucks!

I'm not even supposed to be here today..!

by Shield on Sep 28, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

We can still see you Ron, you’re an inch taller than Toskala.

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by Chemmy on Sep 28, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

what you cant see is the knife

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Wilson is standing behind Toskala, then who’s in the Leafs’ net to stop pucks?!? Can we get someone on that quickly please? Someone with a last name beginning with “Gus” and ending with “tavsson”?

-Graham-

by CanadianMaple09 on Sep 28, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe they’ll make the playoffs because I can’t fathom thinking about the alternative.

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by stucky on Sep 28, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

so true

so, so true.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

One quick hit about Stålberg

Bob McKenzie was on AM 990(Montreal Sports radio) this morning and he said this about Stålberg(Paraphrasing mind you:

‘I saw him play a few times each year over the last few years in college – when he played against my son’s team. He was one of the top 2 players in college, in my opinion. I wouldn’t be surprised if he wins Rookie of the Year in the NHL this season."

I always respect Bob’s opinion… and this time I even like it!

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 28, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Rookie of the Year? Really? I’m not getting my hopes up that high. He’s never played a full 82 games and, top player in College or not, he’s got some stiff competition in Hedman, I think.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Bob said so!!! (whiney voice)

;)

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 28, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

from a fantasy perspective, I need Hedman to be pretty good.

but i’d gladly lose a fantasy league for Stålberg to have that kind of year.

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by blurr1974 on Sep 28, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

When has Hedman

ever played a full 82 games??

If that’s a bash on Stålberg it works for him too.

And Hedman wasn’t the top player in Sweden. He was good… but not the top player.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

Stalberg has been playing younger guys. Hedman has been playing men for a couple of years. He will log more minutes and probably put up a number of points.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The NCAA isn't full of too many underage kids

The top lines and D on most NCAA squads are seniors or juniors… which would make them 23 or 24… not exactly junior age players. He did pretty well in that setting.

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that should read

22 or 23… 24 seems too old.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was 22 when I graduated, I think that’s average age.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

But most kids will redshirt their freshman year so that they do 5 years right? At least, they do in basketball and football.

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by PPP on Sep 28, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is based on nothing except my own opinion, but I kinda think that the SEL is a harder league than the NCAA.
But you’re right about fatigue, Hedman averaged only about 40 games per season in the SEL.

I dunno, as high as I am on Stalberg, I don’t really think he’ll win the Calder.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless hedman has an unreal points wise season his rookie year it will go to the highest scoring rookie forward or the best rookie goalie (a la mason)

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

true, it is just so difficult usually for a defenceman to win the Calder, not enough stats that voters (who may not have done their homework to see which rookie really has played the best) can use to justify their selections.

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by stucky on Sep 28, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone knows

who will win the Calder most seasons… it’s usually a toss up until about halfway through the year.

I don’t think Stålberg will score 40 goals or anything, I just don’t think Hedman is about to walk off with the calder either.

Defense is a very hard position to play in the NHL. As well as Doughty and Bagosian did last season, they still weren’t good enough to win the Calder.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doughty should have won it, I believe it’s because noone saw him play enough that he didn’t.
I can tell you one player who WON’T win it, who prognosticators kept going on and on about…. Hodgson. He’s looked terrible in the pre-season, perhaps because of injury, but there’s no way he’s sticking with the Canucks.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes well

Prognosticators have a tendency to stick to preconceptions long after they should. i.e. the Red Wings and Penguins and Sharks won’t drop off… nobody is ranking those 3 teams lower than last year. Unfortunately all 3 are set to drop a bit in the standings.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm betting

Calgary, Carolina, St. Louis, Columbus, and Nashville all have really good years. They will build upon last season barring injuries. Calgary’s D is just too good, Carolina has improved depth, St. Louis is only going to get better, Columbus is still growing as a team, and Nashville’s D is just ridiculously good for how old they are… they just need more offense.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no faith in Calgary. They’re either gonna dominate or completely fall apart, and I’m erring on the falling apart side.
THough it’s probably likely they’ll do well under Brent Sutter (is that the right brother) I just don’t know.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll see about Nashville’s D this season. As great as their top 3 is, they lost their depth on the lower ranks. That means heavy, heavy minutes to Weber, Suter, and Hamhuis. Weber struggled at the tail end of the season in his defensive zone coverage because he played so much.

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by bkblades on Sep 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

don’t tell me that, I took him in my pool!

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Losing Zanon

will hurt them a lot. He was awesome defensively.

They add Bouillon so that won’t hurt much, but they’re counting on some kids. The thing is, they’ve done so well with the kids they’ve got I can’t help but have some faith they’ll do well with the new ones.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blum

is quite a good defenseman, although more offense again. Could pair well with Hamuis though, if Weber and Suter play together.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blum isn't currently on their roster

According to Yahoo Sports. Sulzer and Franson are though.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

They also signed Soup Cube for depth last week.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 28, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

mentioned that already

They shouldn’t be too bad on D.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and don't forget they have

Colin Wilson to help with the scoring up front.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

that surprises me, I thought he was a lock to make the team. I’m gonna go look that up.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a quote on it from Yahoo! sports
Defenseman Jonathon Blum played last season for the Admirals in the playoffs. Blum thinks he can make the Predators roster out of training camp, but he has several players in his way such as Cody Franson and Alexander Sulzer

.

He might be behind them in their depth chart.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

also coming up (in 2 years probably) is Ryan Ellis

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

he was assigned to Milwakee.
Damn they have a lot of good young D.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why I wanted Kessel to go there, so we could get some of those.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 28, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

and now you get to face him 20 times a year….well it will just feel like that

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 times, and on the off chance there’s a bruins/leafs playoff series I will probably be banned by PPP and Chemmy at the same time, and there will be 4-7 more games.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 28, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yah, i havnt checked the schedule but i hope they didnt condense all 6 games into 2 months like they did last year.
I would love to see a leafs Bruins playoff series, it would be epic

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Boston Dec 5
In Boston Dec 10
In Toronto Dec 19

In Boston Mar 4
In Toronto Mar 9

in Toronto Apr 3

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by clrkaitken on Sep 28, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously…what the hell? I’m all for a home and home once and a while, but spread em out even!

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit

3 games in two weeks again.

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by PPP on Sep 28, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least Leaf / Bruins games are usually somewhat interesting to watch, I would kill myself if the Leafs had game stints like that against the sabers

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

hah

don’t blame you…. too bad he was being so stubborn about signing here.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that really was too bad.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 28, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they're adding to their forward corps also

Wilson, Ryan Jones, Peter Olvecky, they’ll have Sullivan back for the year hopefully.

They’ll be good again methinks.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

they have the best organization, I think, and now with stable ownership I think they’ll compete for years.
That’s one team I’d like to emulate.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can't

the market here is too big for us to muddle along as a mid tier team for 10 yearsa as we build up experience for younger players.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

they

would have been a lot more competative years ago had they been able to spend more money. Kariya’s best year post-concussion was there, and they wanted to re-sign him but couldn’t because of money.
Same goes for a lot of other top players, they would have done more had they had the resources from ownership that we do.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And you know what else?

They’ve done it all without tanking.

If we draft 90% as good as they do, with our bank account, we’ll run this league for years.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 28, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly my thought.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

We don’t have David Poile. We’ll have to add him next off-season to our team of ridiculously large management.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you think the Preds would let him go?

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Poile is even interested in coming to Toronto. He’s a low profile guy who doesn’t like dealing with the media at all. I’m also not sure how he can deal with an overbearing ownership either.

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by bkblades on Sep 28, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

ownership has finally stepped back now.
Poile’s not coming, he was on the list pre-Burke. I just don’t see Nashville letting him walk any time soon anyways.

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by Karina on Sep 29, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ownership may have toned it down, but I don’t believe for a second they’re not asking Burke for a regular report just as they did with JFJ. MLSE is a business first, and they’ll want to see progress in the financial coffers. That’s not to say Nashville doesn’t do this with Poile, but one owner is likely a little less daunting than a full board with competing interests.

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by bkblades on Sep 29, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the press release on his demotion
Nashville, Tenn. (September 25, 2008) – Nashville Predators President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile announced today that the club has reassigned goaltender Mark Dekanich, defenseman Jonathon Blum and forwards Ben Eaves and Andreas Thuresson to Milwaukee of the American Hockey League.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting

it seems that Radek Bonk was cut from his KHL team. Hah.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and also “I think he will be an impact player on the Leafs this year”

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 28, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

That’s quite and endorsement for him to make especially on Montreal radio.

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by PPP on Sep 28, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if he wins Rookie of the Year in the NHL this season.

Interesting. So is McKenzie saying that Gustavsson will just get the Hart and Vezina instead?

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by Down Goes Brown on Sep 29, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Kessel is going to win the richard!

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 29, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at the stats

Go to NHL.com and look at the stats for goals per game. The Leafs have been in the top 12 for most of this decade. (I only did this to print out every year to make a point to a co-worker who is a Habs fan – he only had me on 1 year). The Leafs can score goals, it ‘s just the goals against that always kill them (in case you didn’t watch the game last night). When they cut that down (ie. get rid of Toskala) they are a shoe-in for the playoffs.

by Another Good Kingston Boy on Sep 28, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m saying PLAYOFFS!!!!!1 because I believe that, one way or the other, our team GAA/Sv% will both improve on the last 2 4 years. Either Toskala will get better, which improves things, or he will continue to suck and lose the starting job to the Monster – who won’t suck. Numbers wise, last year, if Toskala provided even AVERAGE NHL-calibre goaltending, we’d have been if not in the playoffs, then right on the bubble. We have a much-improved d-corps over last year, and our scoring seems to be moving up as well. Stanley Cup – I’d love one, but probably not. Playoffs – almost without a doubt. Leaving the Lollipop Guild lying broken, bruised and bloody on at least two separate ice surfaces – guaranteed.

by Blue and White Expat on Sep 28, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Typo

Under weaknesses, you have Jonsa Gustavsson. The correct spelling is Jesus Gustavsson.

by McGriddle on Sep 28, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

also

I would like to lodge a complaint. I do not appreciate being reminded of that horrible OT goal by Roenick… that goal sliced through my heart like a hot knife through butter.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

it took years off my life, mainly because of all the alcohol i had to drink to forget it

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I too

had erased it from my memory….

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm torn

I see the leafs either jusssst making the playoffs or juuusssstt missing them. They’re in that borderline, no man’s land. It makes me nervous

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by loser domi on Sep 28, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah that is pretty much where I see them as well. Basically about the same spot as the first 3 years after the lock-out, the only difference I see is this time they are trending up instead of down

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by JohnnyG on Sep 28, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

They'll make it

Monster in net + monsters roaming the blueline = playoffs. In fact, I am on record as saying they’ll be the 7 seed.

They’ll be better than the:

Islanders
Lightning
Thrashers
Senators
Sabres
Panthers
Canadiens and
Rangers

huh??

by fat_daddyo on Sep 28, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Sabres and Rangers

may have us beat for the following reasons:

1. Goaltending – Miller and Lundqvist
2. Forwards – the Rangers have Gaborik, Avery, Higgins, Drury, Prospal, Kotalik, and Anisimov… not a bad top 6 or 7 honestly. The Sabres have Roy, Pominville, Vanek, Connolly, Hecht, and MacArthur… also a solid top 6.

I like our D over either of theirs, but the Rangers aren’t slouches with Marc Staal, Michael Roszival, Matt Gilroy, Dan Girardi, Wade Redden, . Nor are the Sabres with Lydman, Rivet, Tallinder, Myers… ok nevermind Buffalo’s D is a tad thin.

Either way, I think they’ll be at least competitive with the Leafs.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and then there's the Lightning

Mike Smith in goal, Lecavalier, St. Louis, Stamkos, and Malone up front, Ohlund, Hedman, etc. on the blue line… they won’t be that bad either.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

that’s not what all the prognosticators are saying (I don’t get it either).

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prognosticators

picked a cakewalk for the Habs en route to their umpteenth cup win.

in other words, nobody knows squat.

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by blurr1974 on Sep 28, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The East is a huge mystery this year

Between Boston changing backups and losing Kessel, Pittsburgh losing half it’s D, Philly deciding to ditch two decent goalies and go with a Psycho in net, the Rangers and Habs trades and free agency signings, the Devils coaching change, the Lightning draft pick and signings, the Leafs signings, the Panthers losing their backup, etc.

Yeah there’s way too many factors to get a read on at this point.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be honest… I think a lot of Kessel’s production will be replaced by Sturm.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Bergeron

but both have serious injury problems.

I also don’t know if they can keep rolling with Julien behind the bench. He seems to wear out his welcome fairly quickly – see how long he lasted in Montreal and New Jersey.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it’ll be interesting to see how they do.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bergeron’s “serious injury problems” are limited to two concussions, as far as I know.

Marco Sturm is made of the finest German Glass, however.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 28, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Lightning are us, except

Their goaltending is a bigger question mark
They have way too much money tied up in their top six forwards; AND
Their ownership situation should be a sitcom

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by clrkaitken on Sep 28, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their goaltending is a bigger question mark?

How is Mike Smith a question mark? He’s had concussions before… but when he’s healthy he’s top notch.

I wouldn’t say that makes him more of a question mark than Toskala and Gustavsson.

As for their top 6 forwards having too much money tied up in them, they still had enough to go out and add Ohlund and they brought in Hedman. I wouldn’t say their forwards are that bad either when you consider they’ve also got Steve Downie developing, Todd Fedoruk in the bottom 6, Adam Hall, Zenon Konopka, and they just added Alex Tanguay also.

Yeah they’re not going to have many issues scoring goals. If their D is improved and Smith is healthy they’re better than we are.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tanguay is going to pair well, they have 4 very real scoring threats now

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith is still on and off again with his post-concussion syndrome. Stamina is still an issue as a result.

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by bkblades on Sep 28, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I read somewhere that Smith is healthy now. If that’s true, he is a fine goalie, if still a little unproven.

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by stucky on Sep 28, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just got into a preseason game not too long ago. But he had a little trouble with his energy level, which isn’t surprising for someone who hasn’t played hockey in awhile. But he’s still a question mark in health if only because he’s suffered two concussions now. Great goalie for sure, but you can never be sure with head injuries.

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by bkblades on Sep 28, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike “.916 SV% in Tampa” Smith? Forget unproven he’s amazing.

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by Chemmy on Sep 29, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s only had the one season as a starter if I remember correctly.

And he’s coming off serious post-concussion syndrome.

If he posts a .916 SV% again this year then yes i will go with amazing. I want to see what he does this year first before anointing him.

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by stucky on Sep 29, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

916 behind that defense only for a year should still qualify him for Sainthood.

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by Chemmy on Sep 29, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm concerned about the following

1. Luke Schenn possibly not making strides forward due to the fact that he seems to be taking a bit of a back seat to Beauchemin and Komisarek. I’d prefer to see him leading from the front and becoming more of a franchise player.

2. Gustavsson’s adjustment to the NHL. If it’s smooth I think all the debates about Toskala will be moot… Monster is the future if he plays well.

3. The lack of a true #1 NHL centre. Grabovski is a good number 2 option, but he’s just too small for me to take him seriously as a #1.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Lee "Blue and White Ninja" Stempniak

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by LeafFan1989 on Sep 28, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

except he showed up in the preseason. If he keeps this up, it’ll be a good reference.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to stick with this whole Toskala thing apparently

But you guys do realize that in that year he was 30th in the NHL, he had better save percentage numbers than Dominik Hasek, Dwayne Roloson, Mike Smith, Chris Mason, and Ray Emery…

Hasek retired after that year, so feel free to toss his numbers out (but he was playing for Detroit at the time, and oddly they still won all the time). As for the last 4, Emery is now the starter in Philly, and I’m not sure how scared people are about that despite the fact he just played a year in the KHL; Mason led St. Louis to the playoffs last year posting a .916 save percentage; and Mike Smith also posted a .916 save percentage with the Lightning last season.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

oh and Roloson

posted a .915 save percentage last year.

I’m just saying that Toskala has been better than some good goalies before… we could bring up his .930 years from San Jose, but apparently we can only reference the last 2 years when talking about Toskala.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think coaching is having a huge effect on him. Ever since what’s his name died, he’s fallen off.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean the goalie coach in San Jose

that mentored him, Nabokov, and Kiprusoff… yeah I’ve noticed that too.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Warren Strelow

that’s it.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also coached Brodeur.

Too bad we can’t bring him back from the dead.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I really think he could help Toskala…. a lot.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ask Chelios…he’ll know!

by WendelMadeMe on Sep 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a combination of goalie coaching and Toskala’s stamina more fit to be in a platoon. It’s not like platoons are uncommon nowadays either and more teams are doing it to save costs and keep both of them fresh throughout the season. It’s why I still wonder about Brodeur and Kipprusoff. If the Devils and Flames play them in 70 games, no way I’m trusting them for the playoffs.

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by bkblades on Sep 28, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kipper playing 70 games is a death wish for Calgary.
Brodeur playing 70, I dunno… I’d never count out Brodeur.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brodeur has played 70 or more games

12 times in his career. Two of those times he won the Stanley Cup. I don’t think that phases him so much.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s what I was thinking. He may be getting up there, but he shows no signs of slowing down, and Lemaire plays the perfect system for him.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

last year was the exception with his injury, now we have to see if he can recover and that was just a fluke or a tale of things to come

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is getting old

and he’s played a ridiculous number of games… my bet is sign of things to come. I think New Jersey regresses a bit this year.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

jersey will definetly regress as Brodeur does, unless they can find a viable replacement they are pooched when he retires in a few years

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really

see: Clemmensen, Scott.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You realise that saying that Toskala put up bad save percentages because he was behind a shitty defence falls apart when you point out that Mike Smith posted a .916 sv% and then your argument that a good team will result in a good save percentage falls apart when you point out that Hasek was even worse than Toskala right?

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by PPP on Sep 28, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't made that argument

I’ve never said Smith isn’t a stellar goalie… I personally think he’s superior to Toskala.

Hasek was worse than Toskala in his final NHL season… He still won over half his games…

Good teams do typically result in HIGHER save percentages. Not necessarily superior to Toskala’s best year in Toronto.

I don’t think Toskala was victimized by weak D last year – I think most of his problem was a result of his injury.

The weaker D I’ve referred to in Toskala’s case is specifically in this pre-season.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I'm trying to point out is

30th in the NHL isn’t as horrible as Damien Cox wants people to believe.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toskala

has had many good stretches… and many poor ones. The team as a whole has also followed a similar pattern for the past 4 years.

For the millionth time, he has been far from solely responsible for their poor play that has arisen at times this pre-season. I will freely acknowledge he hasn’t been good enough the past two years. He needs to be better. I don’t think we can say he isn’t better just yet. I think people should wait until the regular season shows otherwise.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is my problem with a lot of the arguments

That insist Toskala is an incapable goalie.

I’m just saying that Toskala has been better than some good goalies before… we could bring up his .930 years from San Jose, but apparently we can only reference the last 2 years when talking about Toskala.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm very happy to criticize his poor play

which has happened far too often so far in his Leafs career… I just think he needs to be evaluated on how he’s playing behind the Leafs NEW D… he hasn’t exactly gotten their best play. The last game against Buffalo was a complete cluster fuck, and the previous two bad stretches of play against Detroit and Philly occurred when the team in front of him was playing like they had to skate uphill to get out of their zone the whole time.

If that continues, then maybe the team has just given up in front of him, also a distinct possibility. But I don’t think it makes sense to blame him for what is obviously not his fault.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think we can say he isn’t better just yet.

What, exactly, about a 32 year old small goalie fresh off of serious hip surgery makes you think he’ll somehow be better than either of the two previous years he played?

If he’s not better than 07-08 we’re sunk.

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by Chemmy on Sep 29, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Suffice it to say

the NHL on the whole is amazingly even. I don’t think any 1 or 2 teams stands head and shoulders above the rest. The Salary Cap is finally starting to have the desired impact. Every team has a chance to win on any given night.

The major impacts from now on will be injuries, and generally speaking chemistry. That latter aspect is a function of coaching and team building more than anything else. Teams that are well coached should perform better.

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by Steve Burtch on Sep 28, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

the cap has created some interesting scenarios for sure, one can only imagine the team the Bruins would have were they not crunched by the cap
and Chicago next season is going to be very interesting to watch unfold

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

reasons we will make playoffs

1. as mentioned, the balance will be evident in scoring meaning that while a leaf may not win the art ross or rocket richard award, there will be enough goals shared around the team to finish in a decent offensive position. in line with the football reference, it is a bit like arsenal, as they do not have a true golden boot contender, but they always manage to score. except bendtner.

2. the defense is amazing. especially because in hockey you are allowed to body contact so it will be much more beneficial to have a balanced 6 defencemen like we have, with kaberle focused on offense due to komisarek shoring it up at the back. schenn should progress but the good thing is that he doesnt need to progress due to the other options, he doesnt have to be the best defender anymore. this means less pressure on him and hence a better development pathway.

3. the goalies should be better. macdonald was a genius move as it allowes toskala to leave without leaving the leafs without a viable backup/platoon-mate for jonas.

i know, that is basically all three positions being a positive but there are some causes for concern.

such as…

1. the lack of true offensive allstar (kessel can score but he needs the puck in good positions to do that…we dont have a marc savard so it would be unrealistic to expect 40 goals this season unless we get a set-up man. for example marc savard.) it bothers me that grabovski, stajan, bozak, mitchell are all ‘top-6’ centres but not ‘first-line’ centres. at least, they wouldnt be top-liners on the best teams in the league. or even in montreal. or ottawa. and that really sucks. we only have one opening for 2nd line centre and 4 young candidates for the near future. this means at least 2 of them are expendable (probably stajan has biggest chance of leaving) which can translate better players on the wing. also on the wing, there are many mediocre – above average players but not enough true-scorers or set-up people.

this is a really long negative point but it basically summarizes that which i can think of at this moment. of course there is the chance kessel scores as much as he did in his first year, kaberle continues to regress, schenn hits the sophomore jinxing slump, komisarek plays like he did last year, and beauchemin gets injured (like last year). also, maybe jonas gustavsson will become like a tellqvist or a brunnstrom (who is not a goalie but maybe you hopefully catch my drift). toskala will suck again and macdonald will play like a true AHL goalie. and, if all this does happen, we cant look forward to taylor hall.

i dont want to end on a depressing note. so, i voted for them to make the playoffs due to the probability of the aforementioned worse-case scenario being minute. the other good thing is that lots of baggage will be removed as free-agents whom we do not need to re-sign and can focus on getting a marquee forward.

by m10_kidkad on Sep 28, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice post dude. Polish your skills and start a blog, I’d follow.

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by Jo4nny on Sep 28, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you deeply for the compliments but i have no time to start a blog with school and soccer and everything else going on right now…its on my future list of priorities but not in the near future unfortunately. however, thank you very much for the praise.

by m10_kidkad on Sep 28, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The FanPosts require no commitment ;)

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by PPP on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a trap, m10.

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by kidkawartha on Sep 29, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

FanPosts sounded like new-fangled highly technological objects, but then i searched what they are and it seems very simple. so maybe sometimes i will post something there. who knows…

by m10_kidkad on Sep 29, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only one tiny problem with the post

you mean the Bruins can look forward to Taylor Hall…

Everything else is gold

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 29, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s only unrealistic to expect 40 goals from Kessel because he’s out for another two months.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 29, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Leafs will miss the playoffs because they need everything to break their way hit that #8 spot (or better). As anyone who has ever followed this team knows, things rarely break the right way for the Blue and White.

I could be wrong (and I hope I’m wrong) but each regression, error, injury and goaltending experiment simply moves the Leafs further and further from that 93+ point season.

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by mf37 on Sep 28, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

its going to be very close, things have to go right for the leafs and wrong for a few other teams, but stranger things have happened

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think this best sums up it for me. i’m abstaining from voting because, while anything is possible, i’m not entirely convinced that without a better pivot for our #1 center, we can make the playoffs.

there are still holes with this roster. lot’s to love, but still…

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by blurr1974 on Sep 28, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

psht

I think Stajan’s as good as Brendan Morrison was with the West Coast Express line.
We just need a Naslund and Bertuzzi to go with him.

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by Karina on Sep 28, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

I just looked up Morrison’s stats.
I think Stajan is just like him.

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by Karina on Sep 29, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

you talking about

Brendan “Vancouver’’s #1 center by default” Morrison…?

I have no doubt Matt Stajan can be more than adequate as a #1 center, but I also tend to think there is the opportunity for even better guys being available via trades or free agency.

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by blurr1974 on Sep 29, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d agree with that. Savard is a UFA this summer. Stajan’s still really young though; he’s only 25. He’s about to enter his prime years and he’s already put up a 55 point year.

I don’t think Stajan is an all star or anything crazy like that but he’s pretty dependable and he’s versatile; tell him he’s the third line center and his job is to play shut down and he plays it. Tell him to center the first line and dish to other players and he does it.

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by Chemmy on Sep 29, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kessel is going to make Stajan look very good

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 29, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d agree that he’s versatile and he does the role he’s given well.

I just don’t think he can control a game offensively. Maybe I’m being too hard on him, but my idea of a #1 center is Mats Sundin in his prime, Doug Gilmour in his prime. Those guys could pick up the puck and change the entire flow of the game.

Stajan is more of a peripheral player. If given good line mates, he’ll do enough to not make them look bad, but that’s about it. I think he’s better served as a third line guy wh o plays on the #1 PK. He’s got a great defensive game, and that’s something that every team needs.

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by blurr1974 on Sep 29, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can agree with this.

Stajan’s not a #1, I don’t think anyone disputes that.

But we can do a lot worse than have him being a solid #2 or 3.

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by stucky on Sep 29, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. I don’t think Stajan’s going to get paid like a #1 anywhere. He’ll be cheap to re-sign.

Burke made his point very clear that if you’re from Toronto and claim to love the Leafs you better take a hometown discount with Dominic Moore.

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by Chemmy on Sep 29, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought his take on Moore was, on any other team he’d not be getting the opportunities he had, as the Leafs just weren’t that good or deep.

Burke will pay you what he thinks you’re worth. Discount has nothing to do with it.

The question for me is Stajan inflating his point totals thanks to playing on a team that’s just not that deep at his position…?

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by blurr1974 on Sep 29, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

to that question, i must say “yes”. stajan is a dependable third-line centre because, as mentioned above, he is a good penalty-killer. however, he has not shown the ‘game-breaker’ offense that sets first-liners apart from others.

remember, even if some teams have or have had first-line centres of stajan’s pedigree, that does not necessitate that it is alright for us to do the same, after all, how many stanley cups did vancouver win with morrison as top centre?

it is much better to aim at a savard-level top centre to emulate contending teams like detroit (datsyuk), pittsburgh (crosby, malkin), chicago (toews), vancouver (sedin), etc. rather than mediocre teams.

by m10_kidkad on Sep 29, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like the positivity around here

change i can believe in….or rather a playoff spot i can believe in

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by canadian texan on Sep 29, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s my sad duty to report that I voted ‘miss’.

I hope I’m wrong (I usually am), but there are just too many ‘ifs’ and ‘maybes’ for me to be confident.

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by Mattblack on Sep 29, 2009 3:29 AM EDT reply actions  

i voted miss as well.

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by blurr1974 on Sep 29, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys need a serious talking to by Eyebeleaf…

Voting ‘Miss’ makes him sad.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 29, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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