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There's no secret that I hate the Carolina Hurricanes. I joke about their inbred fans and laugh when they suggest that the Hurricanes should be on Versus instead of Toronto despite the fact that tonight's game is radio only in the state of North Carolina but really I just hate their owner. Peter Karmanos spends all of his time wishing he was Mike Illitch and even with a decent on ice product (not this year obviously) no one wants to watch hockey in Raleigh.
Jiri Tlusty returns to Toronto and I'm not sure how we're supposed to feel about it. Will he do what every ex-Leaf does and bury us? He's played six games in Carolina and has a goal and two assists, and he averages around 11 minutes of ice time which isn't a big surprise since he's coached by Paul Maurice. I think a lot of us were happy to have Tlusty on the Marlies thinking he was developing well and would come along at some rate.
In roster news, Tyler Bozak has joined the team and will be centering Nikolai Kulemin and Phil Kessel. I love this quote from Bozak:
“It’s an honour you know, [Kessel]’s such a great player. It’s just a privilege to come in here and be able to centre him. I can get him the puck.” - Mirtle
Jonas Gustavsson gets the start across from Cam Ward, and Carl Gunnarsson looks to make his return Thursday night against Philadelphia. Remember your SPG picks and go Leafs go.
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Tlusty gets a goal and an assist tonight. It’s the way of the world.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 12, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Ya but
BOTH ON HIS OWN NET
Woooooooooooooo Go Leafs!!
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
he’s going to show us what a prick he has is
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by Jo4nny on Jan 12, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
rec’d for resurrecting Tlusty – penis jokes.
Grabo's virtual linemate.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 12, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
I should probably write about Bozak, huh?
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BOZAK!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
BOZAK ATTACK!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 12, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
He is the savior of the season, after all.
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he has what… 4 goals for the marlies? 20 pts aint bad though, especially after swine flu and a couple injuries
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 12, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
just copy and paste, then update with the stats from his Marlies games…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 12, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Tyler Bozak has joined the team and will be centering Nikolai Kulemin and Phil Kessel.
/drool
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by blurr1974 on Jan 12, 2010 1:18 PM EST reply actions
Kulemin forechecking, Bozak’s smarts and passing and Kessel finishing.
Niiiiiiice
Fairweather fans can go to hell
please god let this work
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
rec'd
in total agreement. A brother needs something to cling to
me too
but I’m still trying to prepare myself to see Poni leave…
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
poni is so gone at the deadline its not even funny
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 12, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
We don’t know that yet. Everyone seems to think that the whole team is going to be traded, every year we say that and 2 or 3 small parts end up being traded
Fairweather fans can go to hell
hah yeah, I don’t expect movement at the deadline, but I also don’t expect Poni in a Leafs uniform next year either.
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Little known fact, Poni is on pace for 27 goals this year which would be a new career high for him. His best was 23 last year.
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wont happen
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 12, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
poni has been part of a losing leaf squad for way too long, i thought a culture change was supposed to take place at some point? where is the roster turnover, how many years will the same team be iced and continue to lose? sure poni scores 20+, but he also disapears for long stretches of the season and once we have a high quality wingers on the team he wont get the ice time to score 20+, he is also going to want a nice raise and isnt nearly as physical as he should be for a guy his size. I highly doubt burke will resign him and will likley try to trade him
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 12, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, if Burke can find a buyer with a 2nd round pick, Poni is gone come the deadline.
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im not so sure they will deal stajan though, i think burke sees more value in him
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 12, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
really?
I’d actually say the opposite.
If I had to bet, I’d say Burke thinks Poni is the lump of usable clay, but Stajan is a pillow-soft bag of inflated stats. To Burke, anyway.
it will be harder to replace stajan at centre than poni on the wing, imo
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 12, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
well “every year” hasnt always included burke, this is his second trade deadline and he dealt antropov last year. I dont think he is going to resign poni and iwll probably land a 2nd or somethin for him
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 12, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
I too hate Carolina.
Especially for their 2002 cinderella run.
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 1:23 PM EST reply actions
I hate carolina for the one minute of flukiness last year
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I hate Caroline because of Rod Brind’Amour’s face.
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I don’t hate ’em. Have friends down that way.
In fact, I hope they win the lottery, because that means we won’t.
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Good point, because that way Boston gets a lesser prospect
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
You know what makes me smile?
Rickard Wallin is NOT playing tonight. Thank the maker.
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 12, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think Burke will want to get rid of much of this team, too. Untouchables being the college kids, lest he scare of the potential recruits of the summer from the colleges, hopefully he re-signs White, Kulemin, and keeps Hagman; he obviously won’t move his hires (Komisarek, Kessel, Beauchemin, Gustavsson, Schenn), but I think the rest are fair game! In fact, I think he will try to move most everyone else. We will likely have no takers for Finger or Blake, and I agree with a lot of other posters Blake is frustrating to watch when he cycles like the Sedins, but sometimes when he crashes the net, etc, he is OK for $4 million—not great, though, but I seriously doubt he will try to buy him out a la Tucker. Primeau working the corners is pretty nice, wouldn’t mind seeing him next year. I doubt anyone else will be here next year as we will fill gaps will some kids and one or two free agents—that wouldn’t be so bad.
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one way or the other
Burke could be rid of 9 UFAs in Stemps, Poni, Stajan, Primeau, Mayers, Wallin, MVR, XLB and Toskalol.
RFAs should all be kept (Kulemin, Mitchell, White and Gustavsson)
That’s a crap load of roster space that needs to be filled…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 12, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
but considering how this team is performing, he can fill those spaces for less money and get at least the same return
no idea
there’s some intriguing names in Frolov, Svatos, Kovalchuk and Tanguay but I don’t see them as the types Burke will focus on.
Maybe guys like Jokinen (Olli), Rene Borque, Raffi Torres, Colby Armstrong, Fedotenko…? There’s not a lot of “home runs” coming up beyond Kovalchuk, and I don’t see Burke spending what he could get on the market. Marleau could work, especially as a big body who can play the boards and draw defenders to him, creating space for Kessel, same with Jokinen. but who knows…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 12, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Marleau will be looking for an epic payday based on his play in this a contract season. Real big. Scary Big.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 12, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I want Olli Jokinen as long as we don’t sign him for too long and don’t give him an NTC. I don’t care if we overpay him I don’t think he’ll be part of a playoff team, I just don’t want him here longer than 2 years. If it takes $6M who cares we’ll waive Finger.
Jokinen could move at the deadline for assets and will help Kessel.
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2-3 years at about $5.2 mil per sounds good, though Jokinen wouldn’t be great with Kessel because he’s a shoot first center, not a playmaker. But Jokinen does bring in some leadership qualities (he was the captain of the panthers) and he’s a pretty good player.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Jokinen’s a second good player, someone the other team will have to also focus on. It won’t be just the Toronto Kessels anymore.
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Good point, even if they’re both on the same line they’re both big threats. or split them up if need be
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve heard that. It’s probably true.
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On the other hand check this out:

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This picture never gets old
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
just like kessel, they can be cancer pals
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 12, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
and Blake!
the three amigos!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I’m totally on board with this idea.
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
You all know what would be just the absolute best scenario possible??
Tyler Bozak becomes the next Marc Savard.
Nazem Kadri makes the team next year and is just putting up points left and right.
Nicer still
Nazem becomes the next Gilmour….
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by 1967ers on Jan 12, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
shhhhh, that’s the secret hope in my heart that I don’t want anyone to know about…
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Better:
PLAYOFFS!!!11
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
i'm mildly on board with this plan
the lack of NTC is key, though.
I don’t think we’re contending next season either, so yeah, I’m looking for a guy who can rack up stats and be flipped for an asset we can use later. Certainly nothing more than 2 year deal.
$6M though? I don’t doubt he’ll get it, with this crappy crop of UFAs. But that’s a lot
it just takes one GM to drive up the price of admission
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Any man
who could trade Wallin at the deadline would be a King amongst men.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think Primeau has earned his spot on the team for next year. Resign him for around $1.25 and he’s your 3rd/4th line center.
They call me Splodeybones.
I love Primeau
and I think Mitchell might be better served moving to wing. Put Mitchell on the LW with Primeau as your C. Maybe give Rosehill or Hanson a shot on the RW.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 12, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
The trick to this off-season will be to find cheap replacements on short-term deals, and find a capable back-up for Gusto
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Cujo?
C’mon back baby!
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
There will be better available than Joey MacDonald.
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Joey MacDonald has our best save percentage 5 on 5.
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But he’s also only played 6 games.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I can get him the puck- Bozak
Does that excite anyone else like it does me just hearing him say that?? Fine you have to back up your words but I love the bravado he has. I think we’ll have a good idea which Leaf is gonna be skating the hardest tonight.
kid is known for his work ethic
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
He’s saying what we’re all thinking! At least I hope!
Kuli-Bozak-Kessel —> Let’s hope the Kids are alright!
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Inbred jokes
Original! Obviously you are not very bright as jokes regaring inbreds in the USA are normally aimed towards West Virginia not NC. WOW!
Stick to trying to talk about hockey. From the looks of the article, you could use the focus!
I’m from the US dipshit.
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Pretty much anything south of the Mason-Dixon line is fair game for inbreeding jokes….
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by blurr1974 on Jan 12, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for clarifying that. That just shows how much of an idiot you really are. Well done sir, well done!
NEVAR!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Sleeveless hockey jerseys!
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Its pronounced hockey “sweaters” in Canada
by Johnny Bower's Pokecheck on Jan 12, 2010 5:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We can talk about hockey though. With worse attendance than Nashville or Columbus explain how you think the Hurricanes are a viable NHL franchise.
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I’m not sure if our Canes fan ran for his life or if the cow that helps him use the internet is a slow typer.
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I think you hit him where it hurts.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
The problem with trolls is none of them ever want to stick around and talk shit for a while.
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S*ns fans tend to talk shit for a while. Then they go away after never to be seen
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
There’s like 3 or 4 of them left. I think
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
the Valvoline patch on the arm of his jacket?
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If he doesn’t come back, shortly before game time I’ll give him a Leafs avatar and change his signature to “TERRIBLE COMMENTER – IGNORE AT ALL COSTS”
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Or better yet, “NASCAR’S NOT A SPORT!”
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
They probably make you dizzy and confused, it’s understandable.
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You guys are some haters for real! The opening line to your article is a bash line? Wow. Its alright though, some of us Canes fans can understand your bitterness. We wont hold your idiocy against you. Years of losing will do that. Talking shit right off the bat. Sounds like someones so used to getting beat on that they got their fist up before the fight even begins! While were having a down year, we can handle it. Wow….no cup for 43 years! Yall must be thirsty! Why not just give up? You guys dont come into these seasons over and over expecting different results do ya? 43 years with no cup…..who do you guys NOT hate!?
ah, they are coming in droves.
Jokes are jokes, if you cant take a joke with at least a little humility then get off the internet, you look foolish
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
You do realize that without our team being forced to funnel money to your crappy markets you wouldn’t have a team to cheer for.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
oooh
you win.
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
HEY BRANDEEN
Get the photo box!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
They’re from out west. I don’t think Redneck implies inbred though.
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which is why we can make fun of them
not to mention that a good percentage of the people here are american leafs fans
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
So your answer is “I don’t understand the question”.
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yawn
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Enjoy your team while they’re still in Carolina.
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don’t feed the troll….
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
First: “Inbreeding and NASCAR jokes are stupid and unoriginal!”
Then: “1967!!!1”
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I know they’re unoriginal. Every time we play the Canes I write some half assed inbreeding joke and the Carolina fans lose their shit and tell me how unoriginal and unfunny I am.
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I still laugh at them. I am just laughing at how angry they get and then they toss out 1967. It’s hilarious.
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They go berserk it’s really easy. With other team’s fanbases I need to work for it but Carolina is like the free spot in the center of the “Trollin’ Other Teams” bingo card.
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please
do.
How about 1961? Chicago = not a viable hockey market.
How about never> Buffalo, Vancouver, LA, etc etc etc = not a hockey market
Carolina beats Edmonton’s back up goalie, and puffs out its chest at their stupendous accomplishment. after barely squeaking by Buffalo .who were without their top 4 d-men. Oh, and you had to pull your starting goalie and start your rookie backup, who luckily enough, did not crap the bed.
congrats on that, now back to the big people talk – how is Carolina a viable hockey market? Meaning, without drawing people through the gates, or showing the bulk of their games on TV, what makes it any better than Florida or Phoenix?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 12, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I have to watch the game online tonight because they aren’t showing it on tv. Not only does nobody go to Canes games, no one watches them on TV. Fan-fucking-tastic.
The Carolina Hurricanes are all about winning championships, not showing their games on TV or anything like that.
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a fair job they are currently doing at that whole championship thing
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t speak for historical numbers, but we’ve still managed to get the RBC center 3/4 full even during the crapfest that was our 14-game losing streak. Especially considering attendance isn’t the only thing that brings in money for a team (and non-traditional stuff that’s doing well here that doesn’t exist in other markets, like cash from tailgating-related events) I would like to see what makes you assume the ’Canes going anywhere soon…
Oh, wait, I forgot, I’m supposed to troll. Um… ’67? Oh yeah, and, uh… NASCAR rules! I was just talking to my wife/cousin about NASCAR just a minute ago.
by Raccoon Fink on Jan 12, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Phew
That was close until the end ;)
3/4 full is not good in a league that is still mostly gate-driven. Especially when the revenue per game isn’t that good to begin with. If the Canes continue down this track they’ll get in a lot of trouble.
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Also Raleigh’s corporate support is going to be mostly banking.
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and we know how stable the USA’s banking system is….. ohhh wait.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
REALLY!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, but 75% attendance is not going to cut it in a league where 90% is about the minimum needed to break even. not to mention getting into and out of the RBC Center is god awful.
Sure, I’m not saying we’re going to be profitable this year, just saying we’re not going to implode from one year of craziness. The cup run in ’06 gave at least a little bit of wiggle room with lots of new fans, and few of them ready to jump ship quite yet.
by Raccoon Fink on Jan 12, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Playoffs = revenue
2 trips to the Stanley Cup finals and a third trip to the Conference Finals in 8 years helps offset lower gate receipts during the regular season for a small market team. Granted this team needs to make the playoffs to be viable. It needs the extra postseason gate receipts that are pure profit. So far the Canes have managed to time their deep playoff runs very well as it relates to their revenue stream This season will suck revenue-wise. No doubt about it. As have others in recent memory. We spent up to the cap for the first time since the team moved to NC, and will have little to nothing to show for it outside of a top 3 draft pick. Instead of building off last year’s playoff run, and building on the renewed interest from the casual sports fan in the area, the team spent like they never had before and still probably took a bit of a step back. But that said, anecdotally speaking (I have not taken the time to crunch the raw numbers) I have been very pleasantly surprised with our attendance this year, considering how severely we have sucked up until the last few weeks. The drop off in attendance does not seem to have been nearly as bad as it was after the team tanked it following the 2002 Cup Finals run. Even in this economy. Still, at this point it’s simple, not being a traditional hockey market, the team needs to win to draw fans. But with each successful playoff run, the fan base grows. Little by little. Granted, a few seasons like this one and we would most likely be doomed in this market. Maybe some day we can reach the point where we are a market like Toronto where no matter how consistently the team sucks we can still sell out night after night. At least it’s a dream/goal we can shoot for.
OF course the Carolina market does not compare to that of Toronto, or any other Canadian market, or any of the Original 6 markets for that matter. How could it? You’ve had hockey for a century. It’s part of your lifeblood. We’ve had it for a decade. So please spare us the sanctimonious bullshit and we will try to not bring up 1967.
BTW, the corporate sponsorship in Raleigh is not from banking. Our arena is named after a bank (the Royal Bank of Canada, ironically) but banking is not the lifeblood of this area. You must be thinking of Charlotte, which is indeed a banking center. But Charlotte is practically in South Carolina, and the Canes draw little if any corporate support from there. Most of the corporate $$$ supporting the Canes comes from the tech and pharmaceutical industries, I would assume. (BTW, not to burst your bubble but Charlotte is also the home base for Nascar, not Raleigh)
And while we do not have TV coverage of all of our games, tonight’s game was not on TV due to Versus’ exclusive rights to US games on Tuesday night, if I’m not mistaken. Don’t get me started on how much I hate that shit. I was just glad that Rogers Sportsnet was carrying the game so that I could watch on the internet. So thank you guys for that. Do I wish that more/all Canes games were carried locally on TV? Sure I do. But I’m also thankful for the ones I do get. Someday we will get there. Hopefully.
Toronto has an amazing fan base. Just not sure why you guys feel the need to trash small market hockey on a consistent basis. Maybe it serves as a distraction from you own team’s struggles of late (ie: the last decade or three). But I’m sure you guys will turn it around sooner or later.
Sorry for the gratuitous swipes.
I was just trying to fit in with all of you “real” hockey fans.
-martin
And I guess that’s where the difference comes. I don’t think anyone here in Raleigh expects this track to continue on for that much longer, just a whole lot went wrong all at once. The organization as a whole has been pretty savvy, and the team is starting to gel in the way it should have at the beginning of the season. They bet on “one more year” with the team that made it deep in to the playoffs last season, and it failed, but that’s not a harbinger of the end yet…
I guess it’s easier to assume the worst as a Leafs fan… (Zing!)
by Raccoon Fink on Jan 12, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Eeek!
A Troll – Kill it!
Kill it with fire!
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’M THE NATURE BOY RIC FLAIR WOOOOOO!!!
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Wooooo!

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by blurr1974 on Jan 12, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
you need the one where Edge impersonates Ric Flair, that was hilarious
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Brian Burke's 2010 Off Season Game Plan
1. Solid, reasonable priced backup for Monster
2. Hope Bozak is the NHL’s next 70 assists per season playmaker
3. Hope Kadri is the second coming of a certain Leafs Legend (Hint-Moo!)
4. Resign all our RFA’s
5. Draft well, hopefully pulling the next Zetterberg from out of the later rounds
6. Find some GM dumb enough to take Blake & Finger’s contracts off the books
7. Sign some decent players who fit his and Wilson’s scheme to 2 year or so, no more then $3mil deals depending on that player and the role they are suppose to fill.
8. Make sure Gunnersson stays up in the NHL and give Hanson a shot (hopefully very soon)
9. If Poni isnt traded at the deadline, decide how much he’s willing to settle for to remain in Toronto.
Is there anything Im wrong about/left out….
Gustavsson is in the bottom five of save percentage for goalies who’ve played 20 games or more. Our brutal PK is hurting him there but I don’t know if we’ve solved the goaltending question yet.
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A goalie tandem system might have to be used for next year, so we don’t overwhelm him. So like split game 41-41 each or something of that nature.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Tandem with who though?
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Ya I agree
Rushing Gustavsson into playing Brodeur-level # of games is rediculous. No matter how awesome some of his saves are, he has a lot of work to do and needs time to develop. Patience…
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
for #5, we’ve got D’amigo.
For #6, Boob Gainey would probably give us a 1st round pick for Blake
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 12, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think for #5 he meant for this draft.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I did, but Space makes a good point about D’Amigo. Hopefully hes ready to step into NHL skates next year
What a nice surprise D’Amigo was.
I really hope him and Stalberg develop to become core Leafs, it’s a nice story to have late round picks do well (see: White, Ian).
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
My biggest worry
is that half of those points in the “plan” involve “Hope something happens”
Hoping is – AT BEST – not a great strategy.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
basically
1) yup. Not 100% sold on the Monster just yet but I like the potential and his attitude and the way he carries himself. I’m thinking the Leafs will get at least NHL average goaltending for $4M total next year. Which will sadly be a pleasant change from paying $6+ for generally abysmal since Belfour left
2) hopefully. We get a taste tonight.
3) honestly? not sure he makes the team next year.
4) maybe, but likely too much $. White?
5) D’amigo? Didomenico? Stefanovich? No idea, but yes that would be nice
6) best of luck. Although i’d still say both are far from untradeable
7) yup, although candidates don’t leap to mind.
8) dunno about gunnarsson specifically, but we totally have to move some expensive D and let a kid eat up some minutes. There is way too much $ on the back end. (that’s what she said)
9) my gut tells me Poni’s staying, Stajan’s gone.
Hey overlords?
Is there some kind of banner on the front page that begs for trolls? Seriously, how the hell do they keep coming?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Someone’s been teaching them how to use the internet.
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smart cow
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
I think it’s the pigs.
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No question now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
I done got book learned
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Color me impressed.
I guess that makes me colored now.
Do I have to end words with -izzle now?
Getting saltier by the post.
am I going to have to start quoting To Kill a Mocking Bird now?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
just dont go busting up any chifforobes for red neck girls
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think the inbreeding comment helped.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 12, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.sbnation.com/users/letsgocanes
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gold
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I just hope he comments again the signature is good too.
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I am tingly with anticipation
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
I may be crazy here...
But I dont hate the Hurricanes. They are one of those teams I just dont care about. Although, I did want them to beat Boston and Pittsburgh last year
Fairweather fans can go to hell
I hate Irbe
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
At least you have an explanation.
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so crazy AND wrong?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah they’re one of those “meh” teams for me.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
We can forgive your Italian heritage here.
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Wow, amazing reply fail.
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Unless PT is also Italian?
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I dunno, PT might be Italian
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Nope. I have Italian neighbors if that counts?
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
or water their driveway?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
your just mad its too cold out to water
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t blame us! Blame Gerry Dee :)
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you wanna go for cof?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I had an intern that only used the first half of the syllables of the subject of a sentence.
“Do you want to go play some hock?”
“I have to go to Stamf.”
It was infuriating. I made him do Charlie Work like you wouldn’t believe.
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Psssttt the dude used to teach at De LaSalle, how can anyone take him seriously?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
He's hilarious!
Don’t read ahead is how I taught Spanish once year.
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For someone who went to private school, I thought you would have enjoyed the del joke
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Oh, I enjoy it
Del was never on my radar though. They joined CISAA completely after I graduated.
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Believe it or not, they don’t. They’re prolly keeping with the suburban asthetics of Pickering.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 12, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Funny
Every time we play the Hurricanes they all need to be reminded that Chemmy used to be a Hartford Whalers fan until the team was stolen from him and taken to Carolina.
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Yeah, I’m from Hartford.
If it makes you feel better I was interviewed by the newspaper in 1992 and told them my favorite teams were “Hartford and Toronto” and my favorite players were “Gilmour and Potvin”.
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then why the hate? I can understand all the standard trash talk before a game. I dont hate Toronto, but you said hate….why? what happened. Surely ’02 isnt the reason?
You seem like a nice kid so I’ll let you in on a secret.
Our site has two main writers. PPP is the other main writer and we’ve been described as “good cop / crazy cop”. I’ll let you guess which one’s which. Our team isn’t very fun to watch so mostly we insult other teams and play grabass around here.
You and Raccoon Fink seem like reasonable hockey fans and I’m sure both of you have noticed the different response you’re getting than “letsgocanes”. You guys are welcome to shoot the shit here whenever, we’re actually pretty reasonable.
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yea…..i love a little smack talk too, but eventually it gets tiring. “letsgocanes” is probably pissed about the “I hate Carolina”, and rightfully so, me Im just wondering why. I understand that its 2 different people, but whichever one of you hates us, Im curious? Only teams I know that hate us with any kinda reason is NJ and Montreal.
you think it’s “rightful” to get mad at a fan of another team hating your team?
Man, what would we as Leaf fans do if we did that…
I harbour a grudge for ‘02. That was our year. I also think most of Rutherford’s work has been just lucky, and I hate Paul Maurice and how he manages to stay in the NHL because of Carolina.
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
1. i aint mad!, could care less if you hate us!.
2. surely you gotta get over it….cant hate everyone!
3. The good make their own luck
4. Im not sold on Maurice either
We’re clearly capable of holding lots of grudges.
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with all the flack the leafs and leaf fans take from every direction, I think we get some leway
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
"letsgocanes" is probably pissed about the "I hate Carolina", and rightfully so
Is what I was referring to.
As far as playoffs go, I hate the Canes and the Flyers because of it. Tack on Montreal, Ottawa, that’s about the list of teams that I can say I hate.
I really think that Maurice’s great turn around last year was because of Ron Francis, and wish they would just let Francis take over so I could hate the team a little less. I do so love him.
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
maybe. But Cam Ward’s subpar play and injuries are more likely the root of the problem.
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well I do hate Carolina.
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And all of its inhabitants.
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(birky you can come live on our couch it’s not in Carolina)
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so do I.
But getting pissed that fans of another team hate your team?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’m pissed all the time. I’m not even sure what’s happening right now.
I was more mad that he implied I wasn’t funny.
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I’m pissed all the time.
I suspected as much.
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
That would be like lecturing us no to hate a player because they are nice.
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coughtylermyerscough
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
coughmikefishercough
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
cant hate everyone!
Stick around :) We’ll prove you wrong.
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clearly
he missed Festivus and today’s FTB
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
hate is in ample supply
we even hate our own fans and the media that covers our team.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 12, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Carolina doesn’t have either of those problems.
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Unless they play the wrong chord during the banjo goal song.
Columbus: It's amazing how fast the world can go from bad to total shit storm.
Or the Leafs season: either one works
duleing banjos Deliverance...?

I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 12, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
TRAUMA
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Ohh theres nothing wrong with that. I always have had found memories of them from my childhood.
Great choice of players by the way.
Eh the Whalers sucked. I rooted for Toronto to have someone to cheer for in the playoffs. Funny how things change.
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that and fucking Irbe standing on his head on 02
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Reply Fail
And you were doing so well!
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You’ve got a bright future here Evans.
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well, gotta run….some rednecks have real jobs….maybe I stop by your game thread and talk more shit later. Clowns.
We should check in every few minutes and ask what the score is.
That’s the worst part about radio.
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Luckily, I checked Time Warner’s listings and they’re showing the game on CI tonight. So it appears I may be one of the few people in North Carolina who can actually watch the Hurricanes tonight
Maybe
they’ll show that crying ’Canes fan from that one game after Carolina loses to us.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 12, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
IT'S RIGHT HERE

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by Chemmy on Jan 12, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
priceless
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
HA!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
That's awesome.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 12, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
we are going to have so much fun here whenever the Leafs actually make it back to the playoffs.
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
We’re not having fun now?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
oh we are
but it’ll be multiplied by like 100
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by Karina on Jan 12, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd
for good times.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 12, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
he should probably wear pants when he cuts the grass
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
not up hear in the godless north
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Hey check this out:
http://www.sbnation.com/users/letsgocanes
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You
truly are a master antagonist, Chemmy.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 12, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
I’m hoping that when it’s shrunk he doesn’t notice.
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Who wants to hear a funny-ass joke?
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by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 12, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yes :)
Though I was just making a Family Guy reference. :P
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by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 12, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions

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