Better Know The NHL Rulebook - Rule 63.6 - Awarded Goal
In the recap I was not sure if giving Tom Poti a delay of game penalty after he threw Jason Blake into the net just before Lee Stempniak was going to bury Ian White's great pass was justified. General Borschevsky made the following comment in the recap which made me hunt down the actual rule because I remembered a goal against the Leafs counting in a similar situation:
The net getting knocked off was completely inconsequential to the play. Washington never touched the puck so the only reason the whistle went was because the Leafs had scored. The goalie was way out of position, and the shooter was already in possession of the puck, directing it towards the goal. The time between the net coming off and the puck going in is less then a full second.
The goal should’ve counted. Knocking the net off right before the puck crosses the line because your goalie is out of position and there’s nothing else you can do is not a legitmate hockey play and a two-minute penalty does not suffice. It should be an automatic goal, or at the very least, treated like throwing the stick or covering the puck with a hand in the crease, and a penalty shot should’ve been awarded PLUS a delay of game penalty.
The full rule and explanation are after the jump
From the NHL Rulebook:
63.6 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts, the Referee may award a goal.
In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have been displaced by the actions a defending player, the puck must have been shot (or the player must be in the act of shooting) at the goal prior to the goal post being displaced, and it must be determined that the puck would have entered the net between the normal position of the goal posts.
When the goal post has been displaced deliberately by the defending team when their goalkeeper has been removed for an extra attacker thereby preventing an impending goal by the attacking team, the Referee shall award a goal to the attacking team.
The goal frame is considered to be displaced if either or both goal pegs are no longer in their respective holes in the ice, or the net has come completely off one or both pegs, prior to or as the puck enters the goal.
The bold part is the one that applies. When the net is lifted the puck is on its way to Lee Stempniak and he has his stick cocked and ready to score. Unfortunately, it would tkae a pretty generous interpretation of the rule to argue that he was in the act of shooting when he didn't even have the puck. I do agree that the rule could do with a lot harsher penalty for dislodging the net but in this case I think that they got it right. This is the second time in a week (along with Van Massenhoven's call on the Gonchar goal) that the much maligned NHL referees have gotten a tough call correct.
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so the refs get tough calls right against the leafs with regularity, well shit.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 16, 2010 1:44 PM EST reply actions
well
except for that goal we scored with too many men on the ice, but whatever
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by Karina on Jan 16, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
nah, they showed a replay of that, apparently mitchell was off the ice for the goal but then jumped back on to celebrate with the guys or something weird
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 16, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
It was Rosehill.
He actually never made it to the bench they scored before he glided off.
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ah, well McGuire lied
LIEDDDDDDDDD
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 16, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
I blame Iceland
This was always the worst rule in Mighty Ducks 2. Why did that goal count, dammit?!!

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Our defenders
should be made aware of this rule and anytime it seems likely the opposition might score they should slam Toskala into the post as hard as possible to knock the net off. Then we can take our chances on the PK.
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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jan 16, 2010 4:38 PM EST reply actions
I couldn’t find a replay of the goal, so I wasn’t sure where the puck was exactly when the net came off, but it seemed like a bang-bang play. Maybe it’s the “right” call, but it’s a lousy right call and I still don’t like it.
Great post, though PPP. Cheers.
by general borschevsky on Jan 16, 2010 4:58 PM EST reply actions
The shot was well after the net came off.
That said no one was around Stempniak who was just curling to make it an easy tap in. The rule should be changed.
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If it takes away a scoring chance it should be a penalty shot. If you don’t score on the penalty shot you should still get a powerplay for unsportsmanlike/delay of game.
by general borschevsky on Jan 16, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
it was a good half second before the puck crossed the line when the net was knocked off
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 16, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Great job, PPP. Two controversial plays in this game and you didn’t take the easy homer route on either one. At the game I thought logically that the Leafs deserved that goal because there was no way the Caps were stopping that if Poti doesn’t dislodge the net, but according to the rule book I agree that the ref can’t award a goal there. The rule definitely needs to be changed, it would be a joke if NHL D started dislodging the net every time a goal is imminent. And Tom Poti blows.
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
We would have only lost by four! This is an outrage!
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This is why Toskala needs to go. Last night he was terrible and as a fan I said “who cares, I’m not even mad it’s Toskala”. I imagine that’s what the team feels like.
“Oh he’s doing it again. Time to coast we lost anyways.”
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The goals within the opening minutes of the game just kill the team.
I know it is Ovie but it happens far to often and it instantly deflates the entire team.
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But it was deflected. I asked it in the post-game thread but I’ll ask again: which goals against were soft?
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
It doesn’t matter how it went it went in, or who was it nets.
The early goals happen far too much for this team and it is killing them.
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What you're seeing here F&B
is built up frustration . He’s stabbed us in the heart so many times – some of them so blatantly – that he’s lost the presumption of competence that buys him case by case analysis of mistakes. Now it’s presumed a screw up until proven otherwise. Maybe we even take it a little too far, but the bottom line is that he’s awful and we need someone else, and that makes us cranky people to hang around :(
Toskala's save percentage
is too low to be explained by him facing an amazingly high number of skilled shot attempts.
The reality is, NHL caliber goaltenders will occasionally stop “good” shots… hell they will NORMALLY stop “good” shots on scoring chances. This is what makes them NHL caliber goalies.
The guys that make MOST of the easy saves and don’t make ANY of the hard ones? Yeah they shouldn’t be in the NHL.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 17, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair
he sometimes does make really good saves.
I’d rate him as:
Hard shots: Occasionally
Good shots: often
Gimmies: usually.
His save percentage is in the .800’s, not the .400’s. Which is why he lets in 4 a game, not 15 or 20. To get more elite he just has to be completely consistent on the gimmies, and steal one or two more of the good and hard shots per game.
Which, I hasten to add,
is something he apparently does not have the ability to do. He’s reached his ceiling, and it is too low for the NHL.

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