Thursday's my Friday; Otherwise, I'm Grumpy
by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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So, living in Vancouver has its good points and its bad points. I hate subzero temperatures and snow, and both of these rarely occur here, which I love. I have a great job, and managed to get hired right after University and get the company to pay for me to move out here. Vancouver's really been good to me, but there are things that make me think that I should have stuck to my original plan of moving back to Toronto after milking Vancouver for money for two years.
At the top of this list today is the fact that I have to watch so many Canucks games. I know, I know, it's my own fault for marrying a Canucks fan, but really, that's his biggest flaw so I'm gonna live with it What I wish I wasn't stuck with is the omnipresent Leafs bashing from media and fans alike. During last night's Canucks/Oilers game, John Garrett reviewed the Oilers' poor record, and stated "Their last win was against Toronto, which doesn't really count." Yes. I know. Somehow despite the fact the the league awards two points for a win against the Leafs, just like they do with all other teams, John Garret doesn't think it counts. I mean, maybe the city of Toronto was horrible to him when he played for the Toronto Toros of the WHA for 9 games, but I don't understand his conclusion that games against the Leafs don't count. Maybe it's because we've been having a pretty rough year, he thinks even bottom feeders should expect to win against us (because, it's not like we've beaten any quality teams this year, except for oh, the Penguins and Red Wings, last year's Stanley Cup Finalists). Clearly, his distinguished playing career gives him the basis to bash a team down on its luck. Oh, look at that - he only had four out of sixteen seasons where he had more wins than losses. To be fair, he did manage to make the NHL All-Star game one year. In 1983, he replaced the injured Richard Brodeur to be the only Canucks representative in the game, and managed to be voted the game's MVP. But then, Wayne Gretzky scored four goals in the last ten minutes of the game, so they held a re-vote and Garrett lost his MVP title to Gretzky. Ouch. Maybe someone in his position should give the respect due an original 6 franchise that's trying to extricate itself from a mess to be able to compete again. Games against the Leafs are still worth 2 points in the standings so yes, John, it does count.
Yeah, the media here gets to me. The pain of Leafs losses is often worsened by the mockery I have to endure. Good thing Saturday games end early enough that I can still go out and enjoy myself after. And I have great blogs like this one and those I've linked to below to regain my sanity.
Links after the jump.
- Maple Leafs Assist Totals through January 19, 2010 (after 51 Games)
Slava Duris takes a look at who on the Leafs has assists - but not the way the NHL counts them. He looks at who actually creates the goal, and who assisted by screening the goalie, and few other interesting things that lead to an assist. - The Toronto Maple Leafs Goalie Dilemma: How the Floundering Team can Fix Their Problem Bewteen the Pipes
Marcia Di Michele takes a look at what the Leafs should do in goal. - Path To The Playoffs, Part 1: Minding The Net
Pamplemousse's RSS reader may be working again, as I managed to find this new article where he looks at post-season teams and how they differ from our Maple Leafs. - Upcoming Dates in the Leafs' Calendar
MF37 takes a look at significant dates upcoming for the Leafs - with his focus on March 3, 2010. - THN.com Top 10: 2010 UFAs
You might have noticed this yesterday, but here is The Hockey News' top 10 list of potential UFAs this summer. See anything on there that you'd like Burke to buy for us? - SB Nation's Hockey Roundtable: The State Of The NHL, Part Two
Part Two of SBN's State of the NHL series is a roundtable about illegal hits, the lack of standard punishments, and the trade deadline. -
Dream or Reality: Could Ilya Kovalchuk Actually Become a Toronto Maple Leaf?
TO Sports wonders aloud whether or not we could actually see Kovalchuk in the blue and white next year. - Mikhail Grabovski's Secret Injury Diary
That's right, somehow Loser Domi managed to get into Grabbo's Injury Diary. What secrets does she reveal??? - Michael Peca – Mr. Intangible
Rick Gethin of The Hockey Writers has an excellent article about Mike Peca, his career and his legacy of leadership. - Leafs vs Nordiques 1982
Vintage Leafs has the game sheet from a Leafs/Nordiques game from back in my birth year. There's some interesting stats on there that might explain a few things about Toskala's persistent presence in the Leafs lineup. - Oilers lead NHL in man-games lost
James Mirtle looks at the one thing the Oilers lead the league in - man games lost to injury. - Defending Big D's Haiti Relief Fundraiser
Defending Big D is holding their own GDT fundraiser for Haiti. Please note that only comments that are useful and relevant will be counted. If you feel like joining in, it's this Sunday, during the Stars/Avs game.
And this one made me smile:
- Hit of the night, starring Cam Janssen and ... Carey Price?
Yes, you read that right. Puck Daddy's hit of the night last night was Cam Janssen on Carey Price. I thought we'd all enjoy this one.
Lunchtime Addition:
- Bloge Salming: Start of a New Era in Carolina
Try not to spit out your food as you watch it. Also, don't drink milk, I hear it's painful when it comes out your nose.
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I’m sure we all despise Cam Janssen, but that was too funny. Dunno what Conklin did to deserve a penalty, though. Loitering? Intent? Breaking the terms of his ASBO?
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by article1 on Jan 21, 2010 7:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions
If a goalie goes past the red line, it’s a penalty. A dumb penalty, but a penalty.
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I feel your pain...homerism in both official languages.
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by trappedinhabland on Jan 21, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
Cam Janssen is a douchenozzle
But Carey Price is a moron here. He even leaned into the hit, but he must have forgot that opposing players aren’t the same height as his Habs.
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That rules.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 21, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
Janssen's insane
But how does no Hab do anything? It looked like the aftermath of the Kaberle hit except without Tucker going insane.
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But Hamrlik does grab him after the hit and Price tries to pull Hamrlik off to get at Janssen. But nothing comes out of it, of course. The Habs are essentially the softest team in the league either way.
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but they have Laraque!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Update
Not so much.
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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
haha, yes, that is kinda funny how i posted that before i heard the news
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
i miss darcy
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 21, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Garrett
Garrett was so terrible that you might say that any win that came against him shouldn’t have counted.
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That was funny
Cam Janssen is a douche bag, but at least he didn’t do a Patrice Cormier and lead with his elbow.
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by Rock Outta SoCal on Jan 21, 2010 9:24 AM EST reply actions
Janssen didn’t even try to hit him in my opinion. Totally Price’s fault.
Also in the 2nd link re: Goaltending woes, the author suggests signing Halak to an offer sheet in the summer. Do we have the draft picks necessary to do that?
Is that the kid you want?
Not the pick needed to give Halak the kind of contract he’s looking for.
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ok i didn’t think so. I think Halak’s the real deal – whatever team lands him will be lucky, and the Habs will be up a couple of picks. if i were the habs i’d get rid of jesus price instead…
Is that the kid you want?
Carey Price
It’d be a tough swallow for Montreal fans and media to get rid of their goaltending saviour….
But then again we had to ditch Pogge, who was at the time considered to be ours.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
thats why I want them to trade Halak
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
For a bag of pucks, hopefully
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
which would make it even better.
they trade either one they are screwed in one way. Fans will go apeshit if they trade price and they lose a better goalie if they trade halak
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Plus, giving another draft pick for goaltending would be a disaster for the Leafs.
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maybe not if he turns out to be a great goalie…. i really do think Halak could be one. but I agree – I’d rather have the picks at this point and sign Gustavsson to a 2-year extension (but if there’s a reason ppl disagree I’d love to hear it)
Is that the kid you want?
If Halak hits July 1 I hope Burke at least inquires what he’s looking to get.
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Bingo
Plus, not a horrible crop of UFAs this summer, maybe not Top-tier but not worth giving up picks when some are available for free (so far anyway)
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
I think Halak’s a good goalie, too, so my opinion on him doesn’t change. But having invested in several draft picks to obtain a goalie for the future the past few years, the Leafs really should upgrade goaltending through free agency.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
like Toskala? That’s what I’d be worried about for the Leafs – the good goalies out there are either inconsistent (Rinne/Ellis, Biron) or playing for amazing teams that might be helping their stats (Nabokov). Keep in mind – I was pretty excited about Toskala coming to town to save the Maple Leafs, and I’m sure I wasn’t the only one. He had shown flashes of brilliance in San Jose
Is that the kid you want?
Sure enough, there’s always risk with signing a player. But at least all the Leafs lose is money if they don’t pick the right goalie, rather than prospects or draft picks in addition. If either the Raycroft or Toskala deal didn’t happen, then perhaps, the Leafs would be more amenable for a trade.
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The thing is that the Leafs don’t need to hit a home run like Joseph or Belfour.
All they need is someone who can give them a sub 3 GAA, and above .900 SV%, be able to platoon with Gustavsson without giving Leaf fans ulcers, and come relatively cheap.
There’s a ton of guys out there that are capable of that.
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I’d be more than happy with Ellis, Rinne or Biron
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Poor Biron
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
meh
he got greedy. Maybe it’s his agent’s fault, but he overestimated the demand for his services.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
also
see Moore, Dominic
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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
exactly
I feel no pity for either of them.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
I would ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Halak as a Leaf
but it’s a pipe dream from a trade stand point. If Halak makes it to free agency (another pipe dream…) then Burke needs to open the purse strings. So, I took a gander at some stats.
I compiled Halak’s stats with Biron, Ellis and Rinne, and Halak is a far better goalie, at even strength…
Check out the stats here. Of particular interest to me was their Special Teams and shootout stats. Halak is unbeaten in shootouts this year and has the best SV % when a man down. Conversely, has the worst SV% when on the PP…
Long story short, Halak should be locked up by Gainey long term.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
yes, Halak as a leaf would be amazing, dont see it happening though
at least not through the canadiens
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed, but i think the main problem is he would cost us something, while the other UFA goalies, while maybe not as good, would be “free” (in terms of assets)
We definitely to not have an abundance of picks to throw around…
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
as i said
If Halak makes it to free agency (another pipe dream…) then Burke needs to open the purse strings.
i’m talking money, not picks., so UFA status. He’s already going to be an RFA
No way Halak hits 7/1 without a contract. The team he’s signed to is the only question.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I hear islanders need a few more goalies
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I’m convinced Garth Snow is going to try and ice a lineup consisting of Tavares, Okposo, Moulson and 3 goalies.
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As long as one of them isn’t Toskala, their GA may go down.
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or they drown in the price kool-aid
and trade halak to atlanta, dallas, philly, or even tampa ((who knows if niittymaki can keep that consistent performance))
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
GAA doesn’t matter at all. Ignore GAA.
We need a goaltender who in our system can give us .910 or better goaltending.
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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Janssen is an asshole but that’s 100% Price’s fault.
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which is hilarious
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
Conklin should have continued across the red line and jumped Price, defended his teammate!
Is that the kid you want?
would have been worth that 2 mins
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Too bad Roy wasn’t coaching.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
So, Georges Laraque just got bought out. http://habsinsideout.com/main/27984
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 21, 2010 10:26 AM EST reply actions
heh
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Too big for the Habs, eh?
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 21, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Well now that Carey Price will be the enforcer of the team, they don’t need him.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 21, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
quote
“Classless,” Laraque said angrily to TSN. “To do this in the midst of all I’m dealing with in Haiti, the timing is awful. I’m not going to sugar coat anything.”
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
and of course a habs fan calls him a moron for saying this
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
As I tweeted:
Before anyone gets too upset about Laraque getting canned, remember that his buyout will probably approach your lifetime earnings.
True story if my boss walked in and told me I was fired but they’d pay me my salary for the next year and a half I’d kiss him on the mouth.
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oh I agree, but the timing does suck for him and calling him a moron for being pissed about the situation pisses me off
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
He’s a moron for being pissed about the situation.
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disagree
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Depends on your viewpoint.
You might kiss your boss on the mouth if he tells you you don’t have to do your job for a year and a half, but if your job was being a pro athlete, you might feel a bit different about not being able to do it anymore.
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If you’re in a situation where your team doesn’t want to play you anymore and would rather pay you to fuck off, being indignant about being told to sit down is your attempt to avoid accepting that your career is already over.
Laraque doesn’t score. Laraque doesn’t fight. Laraque doesn’t play defense. Does he deserve ice time by virtue of being an incumbent?
He’s being a big baby. He was lucky enough to play many years in the NHL and make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS doing it. His career is over because he’s now a useless player. It happens to every NHL player eventually and he should deal with it instead of crying like a big baby.
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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Couldnt have said it better myself
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 21, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
huh?
does he have family/relatives/friends in Haiti?
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 21, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
From the Wikipedia:
Georges’ parents were both born in Haiti.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 21, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
that's too bad
and i just wanted to have my facts straight before i formed an opinion
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 21, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
He’s no longer a Hab so now I feel really bad for him. Fucking Montreal, man. Fucking Montreal.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 21, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
jeez, habs fans are just laying into him now on hfboards (i know i know) for his play sure, but not for that quote
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Time to pour one out for our departed brother
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 21, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You magnificent bastard. Rec’d.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 21, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
The leafs should sign him! i don’t care if it’s a smart move, or even a possible one for that matter. I would just love to have him to throw some fists around against the habs. Him and Grabbo could be the Bash Brothers agains the flabs.
Why would we need Laracque when we’ve already got Orr and Rosehill to be the bash brothers?
Plus, next year Nazem kadri can be Kenny Wu
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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought the same thing, but we already have Orr and Rosehill. Georges can play, but is he really an upgrade?
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This blogger would argue that Georges can not, in fact, play.
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agree
5 years ago he was decent at the whole hockey thing for an enforcer (probably comparable to Orr with better hands) but now he is just a fighter who doesnt fight
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Carey Price: Crazy in the "Wow, you're a dumbass" type of manner.
I was gonna say something else, but NBC told me not to and my lawyers felt it inappropriate.
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Price/Janssen
Janssen is clearly a goon, but my view on hitting goalies is generally, you should not be allowed to touch them at all (screening is obvs OK) while they’re in the net, but when they venture out, it’s basically fair game.
If you’re going to skate around like a defenseman, i don’t see why you can’t be hit like one.
In the crease the goalie should be off limits.
If the goalie’s behind the net you should really try pretty hard to avoid running into him.
If the goalie’s above the faceoff circles and cuts you off at the boards, welp
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yeah, had price clearly beaten Janssen to the puck and was playing it I’d say he should have done what he could to avoid contact.
in a race for the puck though? Price is a moron
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I cant wait to see the habs finish 28 or 29th next year
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 21, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
In the crease the goalie should be off limits.
If the goalie’s behind the net you should really try pretty hard to avoid running into him.
If the goalie’s above the faceoff circles and cuts you off at the boards, welp
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aye
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
aye aye?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
oh my word
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
I hate to speculate, mainly because I don’t like getting my hopes up… but how does C. Mason sound as a possible UFA? He’s making 3 million this season, how much do you think he would sign for next season? I don’t know if I would mind seeing him hear under a 2-3 year contract, at around the same pricetag…
...Being surrounded by Sens and Habs fans makes me lose faith in humanity...
well Conks is locked up till 2011 and they have Jake Allen (of world Jr fame) in the pipe so who knows what the blues will do.
Mason is playing well for them so i wouldnt be surprised to see them throw an offer at himto stay their number one
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
and they have JakeAllenToskala (of world JrfameFAIL)
fixed.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
hes 34 by the summer
as a 2-yr stopgap might be okay to push monster, but not a solution for any stretch of time
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
want
he can platoon with Gustavsson really well, seems to be a really great team player, definitely not in the Toskala/Raycroft “I did all I could and I don’t know why we lost” mould
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
same here
can we afford him though?
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by El Monstruo on Jan 21, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno. I really don’t have a clear picture of the goalie situation league-wide this summer. All I know is that Turco won’t be a Star.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
and hopefully not a Leaf…
What about Hiller?
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by El Monstruo on Jan 21, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
he will be locked up pretty soon if not by free agency
Giguer will be moved at below market value if they can find a buyer
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, the confusing thing is there’s a lot of either/or with goalies
Either Ellis or Rinne
Either Hiller or Giguere
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
and:
Either Price or Halak
but Giguere is not the future for Anaheim. I think they keep Hiller if he’s identified as the future, if not they get into the mix of goalie transactions.
If Giggy’s bought out, its a $2.33m cap hit for 2 years as opposed to a $6m hit next year.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Just to throw another name in the goaltending mix
I read a “tweet” (yecch!) yesterday from somebody saying Cam Ward would be available. Not as an FA, by way of trade, he’s locked up long term.
Huge cap hit – 6.3 million. Wait, what? Can that be right?
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I don’t believe the Cam Ward rumour.
But if he is, YES PLEASE
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Linky to Dreger’s tweet re: Ward.
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bizarre
Dreger is Nonis’ cousin, he’s trying to help the Leafs out.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
hold on
I think he means Aaron Ward, the defenseman
not Cam ward.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Oh.
Me=idiot.
Hahahahahahaha.
No, really. I’m an idiot.
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don’t worry, I think everyone forgets that Aaron Ward is on their team.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
with his current stats Gusto probably wont get more than 2.5, and unless he turns int o lunqvist for the rest of the season he wont top 3.
probably a shorter term deal of 2-3 years so that if he gets better he can make more
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
so what i’m gathering here is that only giguere and turco will be realistic grabs?
it seems like the young guns the leafs might like more (mason, hiller) will be re-signed.
whatever happened to Aubin? i liked that guy.
All we are is dust in the wind
Aubin is in the AHL with the Phantoms I think
Giggy probably could be had for pretty cheap because of his NMC and 6 million dollar salary, even though he is a damned good goalie.
Turco could also be had because the stars have all but said he wont be playing there next year, but he sucks so no dice
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
You do it . . .
and you get the possibility of an epic beard for your troubles. It’s like a Chia pet . . . it could grow within hours.
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Nice
He must get his five o’clock shadow at 9:30 in the morning.
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Only if he shaves at 9.
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Hey guys....
….new video is up on the captaincy situation in Carolina.
It’s not exactly Leaf related so feel free to ignore this post and we can pretend like it never happened.
Thanks.
GO SEE IT!
Ending’s great.
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Any chance of getting it added to the links at the top?
Or is it not Leaf-centric enough?
by Bloge Salming on Jan 21, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
i see no reason not to add it… I’ll grab it and put it up there.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Nice
Something else to look forward to after the Leafs beat Tampa Bay tonight!
What can I say, I’m a glass-half-full kinda guy.
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You’re going to wait until after the game to watch it?
by Bloge Salming on Jan 21, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t stream videos at work… internet filter block. :(
Of course there’s always intermissions, or before the game if I can get home by then.
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Wow...that sucks.
I don’t know how i’d pass the day otherwise…
by Bloge Salming on Jan 21, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
no kidding, im so thankful i have full access to twitter, youtube, facebook and PPP
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 21, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
hey guys, so who looks like a legitimate prospect for a leaf goalie next season?
burke won’t have a tough time locking up gustavsson, right?
man, our goaltending is fucked
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Chris Mason?
I don’t even want to think of the possibility of seeing Turco in blue and white…
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by El Monstruo on Jan 21, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Turco sucks
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
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by El Monstruo on Jan 21, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
See above conversations.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
On a completely diffrent topic… Remember when the leafs were accused of ‘tampering’ with the Sedin’s? Right about now i think i would be willing to commit full out fraud for those twins.. Just something i have been thinking about.
no
they are pretty good in the playoffs now. They excel in tight checking games.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
yes
during the game last night, I was saying “Burke, you didn’t tamper ENOUGH!”
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Man if we had brought in the Sedins as UFAs we’d be a decent team. :(
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hey daniel was injured, and wed probably still have our next 2 1st round picks
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 21, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, i needed someone to shake me out of staring directly into the “Henrik Show”. I hear it will make you go blind..
I think your getting brainwashed to Karina (my little brother is a ’nucks fan too and there is non-stop Sedin talk in my house right now)
No problem :)
Just helps keep the conversation from getting too choppy.
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haha
watching the games… they’re really that impressive this year.
Before this year, I wasn’t ever really impressed. But hot damn, you can actually see them thinking two or three passes ahead this year, it’s amazing.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, ive actually stayed up to watch a few more canucks games this year and they are very very good.
Burrows might be playing well with them now, but I can only imagine what they could do with a winger who is of comparable skill to them
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I think the thing with them isn’t the skill level, it’s the hockey IQ of whoever plays with t hem. They need someone that can learn how they think and be in the right places at the right time. Burrows can do that. I’m not sure a lot of star players can do that because they have their own style that they’re used to.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
yah, well you know what i mean. a Naslund type winger in his prime or an Iginla would fit right in
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Naslund even out of his prime was only OK, he had his own distinct style.
Iginla in his prime would’ve been gold.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
did nazzy play with them when he was in his prime?
even so i just think him then and them now would be able to mentally mesh
maybe Mogilny? haha
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
nah
Nazzy was post lockout, but even in his prime he was more than just a pure sniper.
Dunno about Mogilny either. You need someone maybe a little less creative. Rick Nash?
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Nash might work, I could see Poni working very well with them
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, if we’d got them, Poni’d be on their wing for sure.
/sigh
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Poni for schneider+!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think it’s possible, actually. If they don’t go for Kovalchuk.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I am in Winnipeg and watched C. Schneider play for the Moose for a long time. He is very good. I have often thought it would be nice to have him in a Leafs sweater.
he should be relatively cheap, given how much longer they have Luongo locked up for.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
To clarify, you want Cory Schneider and not Mathieu Schneider, correct?
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oh yes.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
oh yah, I’ll also throw in Stajan if they add a second!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
a high second and conditional pick
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
depends on how Bozak plays, when grabbo comes back how effective he is and what Burke has planned.
I have no doubt he has a plan for Stajan, either trade or keep. If he is on the keep list it will take an over payment (first or good prospect) if he isnt then he goes for a second and a spare part
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
I was reading that he’d like to re-sign Stajan.
I hope it’s not true.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, i heard that too, i hope he is doing the reverse of what he did to Antro last year
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
DO NOT WANT MATT STAJAN.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 21, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
he’s better than Wellwood.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
He won’t bankrupt your food service industry either.
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How can they go into next season with stajan, grabbo, mitchell and possibley primeau up the middle again….
I think 2 of those 4 are gone… which ones though
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 21, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely Mitchell.
I could see Grabbo moving to wing.
I’d still like to convince someone to take Stajan from us
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Mitchell makes just over the league min and is an RFA.
He’ll be here in Toronto next year, it’s just a question of whether he’s with the Leafs or we add enough depth to bump him to the Marlies.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Any interest in Frolov?
He played really well defensively last year for the Kings. I haven’t watched too many Kings games this year, but I know he doesn’t like his role on the team (beginning with being used as a third liner)….
the thought of Bourque in Blue in White tickles me silly, but I hate getting my hopes up
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Another RFA right?
So the Leafs would have to trade to get him. I don’t watch enough of him to know but he seems pretty good.
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they also call him Frolov the Floater for a reason
Bourque would be a nice addition, same with armstrong
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Frolov is a UFA
and would be a decent second option on the powerplay.
I’d prefer a guy like Rene Borque or Colby Armstrong personally.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
they’ll probably be cheaper, and bring more than scoring
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure on Borque, he’s younger than Poni, similar numbers, I think he could be expensive-ish.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
well cheaper than Frolov at least.
It is also a breakout season of sorts, so unless a GM wants to pay him out the ass for one season i dont see him making top dollar
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
I’m just not really sold on him, I guess.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
under 4 mill id take a serious look
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
he just gets a bad rap, not a floater at all he just has that skating style that makes him look slow.
I’d take him in a heartbeat.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
he has one more point than Kessel in 9 more games on a far better team and he will make at least the same amount of cash. I don’t watch enough kings games to know how well rounded his game is but that doesnt jump out at me
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I watch most Kings games, and I think he’s really underrated.
That being said, I don’t see him getting 5 mil per a la Kessel, but if we could somehow grab him at 3.5/year it would be a coup.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
I wish I could watch more kings games,
gotta get me center ice
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
or
but yeah, what I saw from him last year was impressive. He is not a floater, and doesn’t get as much ice time to be compared to Kessel, plus like I said, he was on the third line for most of last season (not sure about this season). What kind of line rotations is he looking at this year?
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Does anyone still want to see Colby Armstrong as a leaf, he doesnt seem to be having a very good season in Atlanta
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Yeah
He’d be a great addition.
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I do like what Armstrong brings to the table when he’s playing up to his capability. Good secondary scoring and doesn’t shy away from the physical side. I wouldn’t mind him at all in a Leaf uniform, with all the usual caveats in place (for the right price, etc.).
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Lets get some primary scoring before we look at getting secondary scoring
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t disagree with that. I do think getting Armstrong isn’t the worst idea in the world for the Leafs, and in fact it is most likely a good idea.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
I think we should mostly be concentrating on getting a solid goaltender/tandem going…
Also, coaching on the defensive side needs a complete overhaul – from handling pinches, defensive assignments and most of all, the gawd awful PK.
This, and all of a sudden we are no longer letting in more goals than we are scoring.
Look at it this way:
Goals for leaders in our Conference
Washington 185
Pittsburgh 163
Atlanta 153
Philly 148
Ottawa 142
Florida 141
Buffalo 138
Toronto 137
Eighth in our conference, and really close to Buffalo, Florida and Ottawa to move to 4th.
Goals against we are a league worst 177 – the only team that comes within 9 goals of that is Columbus(yes really) with 174 – next is Edmonton with 168.
If we can prevent 0.5 goals a game so far to this point in the season, we would be at 152 goals against – which would put us 10th in our conference, but only 3 goals less away from 7th.
Excepting some lopsided games, we would be right in or near that 8th playoff spot.
Again, more goals would be nice, but I think the more effective way to climb in the standings is to stop a fucking shot now and again -or even prevent one from getting off/through.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, we would still be letting in more goals than we are getting, but the difference would go from 40 to 15… baby steps…
and that’s without making any changes to the roster.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Just a thought on free agent goaltending
Which is taken from my latest post.
The average for all eastern conference starting goaltenders who’ve made the post-season (post lockout) are as follows.
Average Starts – 60.13
Average GP – 61.91
Average Wins – 34.30
Average Losses – 19.09
Average OT/SO Loses – 6.58
Average Sv% – 0.912%
Average GAA – 2.58
So, the Leafs need a goalie who can give them that, essentially, or they need a platoon that can give them this:
Average Starts – 37.31
Average GP – 39.71
Average Wins – 21.58
Average Losses – 12.54
Average OT/SO Loses – 3.29
Average Sv% – 0.917%
Average GAA – 2.66
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by Pamplemousse on Jan 21, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions
Just one more thing
No Eastern Conference team that has gone to the finals post lockout has had a goalie start more then 61 games or earn more then $5 million in salary. Just something to keep in mind.
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by Pamplemousse on Jan 21, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
@Karina – I heard Garrett’s barb during the game last night and sighed (especially since VAN sucked for large streches of last night). Besides being annoying, it’s old.
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he was abnormally dumb yesterday. It seemed to me that John Shorthouse was biting his tongue a lot – especially on that penalty that Garrett wanted called on Ganger for him dropping the gloves after he was hit by Bernier. I hate Garrett.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah…and that was Bernier being effective for a change. I think they needed things to banter about other than the fact the worst team in the division, with a winless goalie in net, was taking it to their team.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jan 21, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I think they need to replace John Garrett.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
For the UFA signings – shell out and grab Marleau, and Rinne for sure.
by Blue and White Expat on Jan 21, 2010 1:01 PM EST reply actions
I’d love Marleau, but money wise I don’t see it working
the only way he signs for under 6 is if its a retirement deal, which the Sharks will probably sign him for
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Riddle me this:
If the Sharks once again get knocked out of the playoffs (for illustrative purposes, lets say in the 1st round), and Marleau is a no-show, does SJ still re-sign him?
Rationally speaking, it makes sense to sign him to a retirement deal for the Sharks, keep him on a line with Joey Thornton and Dany Heatley and let him keep racking up rediculous numbers.
But something has got be said (and done) about a team THAT good that isn’t raising the cup.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
if they don’t go very far, I think both Nabokov and Marleau are gone. Blake will retire too.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
they’ve had so much disappointment, I think if they don’t do it this season, they have a regime change and a lot of player movement.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
and start from scratch…
i think ownership is happy enough. fans are still coming to games, the team is making money. a competitive team that wins a lot of games keeps the rink full…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Truth
from a business standpoint, they’re in a good situation, especially for a Southern US city with a profitable HOCKEY franchise. Selling off their stars or letting them walk might prevent seats from being filled.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think they might go after Frolov
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
That would be the most expensive line in existence. Unless you count Olympic teams. And even then, it’d be close.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
one thing that I’ve learned from this UFA goalie exercise: there are a lot of options out there. I just wish I trusted Burke’s ability to rate goaltending talent.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
recently his goalie track record has been fantastic (gustavsson is still in the maybe section) does he have any blemishes other than cloots?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
an interesting quote
“I don’t feel either one has done it. I’m tired of starting games down 1-0 and 2-0. I put up with it for as long as I could, I think I was patient with both of them. Now I’ve made a move that says ’I think we need a No. 1 goaltender.” – Brian Burke.
Sure sounds like he could be talking about this year, eh?
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
definatley, how pissed must he be that he is in the same position all over again
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 21, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
lets hope he fixes it a lot faster than he did in Vancouver
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
luckily we have dave nonis, maybe we can trade blake and figner for luongo
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 21, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not big on UFA’s either, but … At this juncture it looks like another year of platooning for the Leafs in ‘10-’11 (pending the Monsters play from here ‘till seasons end)
No one internally jumps out at me as ready to play apprx 40 games at the NHL level and maintain a Sv% above .910 – which is what I’m hoping for in a platoon situation.
And I’m done with losing picks for goalies (and RFA’s in general).
So – Rinne and Ellis are sharing starts in Nashville and putting up numbers similar to what was stated above (.910 sv%).
Ellis gets the slight edge in my books, because he had his best year in ‘07-’08 after signing as an UFA with Nashville that summer. Hopefully, a new contract can spark him again.
I have to note that Nashville is a better defensive team than TO, so the sv.% numbers of RInne and Ellis could be skewed by the quality of shots they’re facing. I don’t know
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 21, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
And also, I would re-sign Gustavsson to platoon with whoever
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 21, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Oh poor, sweet Karina...
I so feel your pain. Exact same situation here in Calgary, and I married an Oilers fan. She and her family aren’t on the usual list of “Leaf haters”, although, I get enough from her friends and my coworkers. The media though…
Listening to Fan960 this morning and MIke Richards had Scott Taylor from Winnipeg on. He went off about what a terrible job Burke has done, how their farm team even sucks, and that it’s the TO media’s fault that we think the Leafs will make the playoffs every year. If only I could have called in…
Anywho, the media takes every cheap shot they can think of at our beloved team, and the lemmings out here who don’t bother to know any better just eat it up and spit it back at me. I’m so tired of having the exact same arguments with everyone…
Thank god for the Barilkosphere and Centre Ice!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions
WOO!
@MapleLeafs News: Jay Rosehill and Wayne Primeau in, while John mitchell and Rickard Wallin come out.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 2:15 PM EST reply actions
oh thank god
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
HAHA
and Hedman is a healthy scratch.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
too bad Burke didnt trade up to get him
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
One of Burke’s best non-trades yet
Kadri + Schenn for Hedman? noooooooooo thank you
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno, they also sat Stamkos last year, that’s worked well for them this year.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
stamkos was terribly mishandled by Melrose, i really havnt been paying attention to what tampa is doing this season
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
From the point of view that if Toronto had given up Schenn and the #7, and Hedman had hit the wall, the Toronto “media” would be having a field day.
Which, come to think of, roughly approximates their “analysis” of the Kessel trade.
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ugh
over at hfboards (i know i know) they have a “worst trades of the decade” thread
guess what one keeps getting brought up?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Bertuzzi for Luongo?
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
yes, but the kessel trade is being suggested
not that i am surprised, but jeez………..
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
2000s
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yashin for spezza and chara
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
haha
looks almost like an Islanders win now that Chara’s gone and Spezza’s crap.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
haha yeah, but imagine if they had kept Chara, Spezza and Luongo and didnt have that cap space being eaten by that horrible Yashin contract
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
isles to florida:
olli jokinen + roberto luongo for mark parrish + oleg kvasha
florida got a franchise in one phone call. learn it well burke. get out there and fleece somebody.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
5-6 years down the line
we may be saying just that if the pics turn out to be Daigle and Stefan – esque players…
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
im still confident
that burke will work some copperfield shit and end up with a first-rounder of another team.
and that team will drop precipitously while toronto surges in march as usual, and our pick is 9th while boston’s toronto pick drops to 11 or 12.
and then burke does this to chiarelli:
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
you mean this?
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
yes. i didn't have a quick-draw link to it
there should be some frequently-used image toolbox for this site. things like this, “get off my lawn”, etc.
tell PPP & Chemmy to get on that.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 22, 2010 3:46 AM EST up reply actions
mirtle...
Correcting what I Tweeted earlier: There are 23 days until the Olympic trade freeze. Afterwards, GMs will have four days before the deadline
Holy schnikes that is going to be a nutso 4 days
ESPECIALLY if players get injured during the Olympics. Contending teams will need assets for a playoff run.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
burke will be salivating if alot of guys get hurt during the olympics, that would be his dream come true for this season.
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 21, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
as long as their names arnt Kessel, Komi, Gustavsson or Kaberle i’m all for it too
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
KABERLE YES!
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
you want kaberle to get hurt?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
oh.
no.
I want him traded.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Kaberle’s not going out at the deadline unless someone makes an over the top offer.
We need to wait and see what happens with White at the deadline first.
If White goes Kaberle will stay and Burke likely tries to re-sign him.
If White stays, he’ll almost certainly be re-signed, and Burke will probably move Kaberle at the draft
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I’m hoping for the over the top offer
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
ah yes
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
John Garrett is the biggest homer douchenozzle to ever be allowed behind a microphone. And the savage irony of it is that the average vancouver fan is completely oblivious to this, while bashing the hell out of Bob Cole for being a terrible Leafs homer.
In conclusion, watching canucks games on sportsnet is really god damn painful. UNLESS the canucks do something questionable against an opposing goalie, then we get to listen to Garrett twist himself into knots trying to decide between backing his goalie homies and the canucks. With hilarious results.
Personally I don’t think Carey Price did anything wrong apart from bothering to skate out to get a puck while that great “offensive threat” Janssen was steaming in there. Janssen just showed his usual flair for being a moronic cementhead in crashing into Price, but no real harm done either way.
Price didn’t do anything wrong, per say, but when you venture that far out and step in front of a speeding meat head you shouldn’t get all pissy when he knocks you on your ass
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Nah I thought his reaction was fully justified, while I think goalies should perhaps not venture out that far, if they get schmucked they should probably react like that if they do get hit. It definitely wasn’t penalty worthy though. Just some harsh words, a few swings and the energy level gets hopefully ratcheted up a few.
So basically if they can take the hit they get to dish it back out.. I still think Janssen was a huge melonhead for just running straight into him, but I suppose a dipstick like that doesn’t have much in the way of skating ability anyway. It probably would have been above his skill level to veer off or stop. It’s just too bad the goalie wasn’t one more solid, like Tim Thomas for example. Smacking into that guy at full speed would probably hurt like a mofo.
by LeafFanInVan on Jan 21, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I would pay to see Thomas smack into a guy like that.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
He’s like a giant beer keg on skates, he doesn’t even need to smack anyone. They’d just bounce off.
by LeafFanInVan on Jan 21, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
where is CH with that gif?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
UNLESS the canucks do something questionable against an opposing goalie, then we get to listen to Garrett twist himself into knots trying to decide between backing his goalie homies and the canucks. With hilarious results.
Goalies really love their buddies. They are always looking out for # 1. It’s like they joined a secret cult.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
We did join, and would prefer if you didn’t speculate on our secrets here.
That said – that far outta your crease, for a 50/50 puck – you’re on your own. Feel free to go nutz and through punches, but your free game at that point.
The no hit zone for goalies should be the crease+the trapezoid. Anywhere else, venture at your own risk
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 21, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
It’s completely true, it helps that so many goalies go into broadcasting because it really helps spotlight that.
Related story: I was at a somewhat swanky restaurant in Burnaby BC a couple years back, and the next table over was one of the few Canucks players over the years I liked, Cliff Ronning. He was having his retirement party. I overheard someone ask him what his plans were next and he said “I’d like to get into broadcasting, why is it goalies get to have all the fun?” Very true. Sadly I guess that path didn’t work out for him.
I’m guessing since most NHL goalies still have most of their teeth when they retire that helps a lot.
by LeafFanInVan on Jan 21, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I would pay anyone any amount of money to have Cliff Ronning replace John Garret.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Makes if funnier that Darren Pang totally backed Janssen on the hit last night.
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To be fair Pang only counts as half a goalie..
..because he’s teeny tiny..
by LeafFanInVan on Jan 21, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Garrett is only like 5’7" and was 165 lbs in his playing days.
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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Pang is pretty decent, he doesn’t seem to be in the whole cultish, defend goalies to the hilt at all times group, and he’s reasonably balanced and knows his stuff.
My main issue with him… holy jumpin’? Really?
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
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