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The Leafs play game three of their five game "Empty Arena Tour 2010" having gone 1-1 against Atlanta and Nashville. Oddly enough they lost to Atlanta and beat Nashville which if any of you thought would happen ahead of time you've been smoking crack or hanging out with Nostradamus.

Antero Niittymaki starts against our new bonafide geniune starter Jonas Gustavsson. PPP didn't learn my lesson about making fun of bad goalies when he confidently stated that the Leafs would have no trouble handling Ondrej Pavelec. Niittymaki's had two bad games in his past three but anything can happen when you mix streaky goalies and bad forwards.

John Mitchell and Rickard Wallin are riding pine tonight as the Leafs welcome Wayne Primeau back into the lineup. Tampa Bay will be healthy scratching Victor Hedman. Free from the burden of hoping we'll make the playoffs hopefully this Leafs team can start their standard "too late to change anything" end of season roll and win a few games just for the hell of it.

Don't forget your SPG picks and go Leafs go.

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Yes, Tanguay was always that stupid looking. I’m still surprised at how bad he’s been.
GO LEAFS GO!

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

I thought the Leafs should have snagged him as a no brainer last summer.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought he was better defensively than he has been.

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Not just for the hell of it...

To avoid 1.7*10^19 articles about how the Leafs gave up a first overall pick for Kessel.

by Its Cold In Here on Jan 21, 2010 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

As Pat Quinn would say, his play has been “sucking the hind banana” lately.

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by stucky on Jan 21, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Since the lockout, the Leafs go on a massive run every March to get back into the playoff race but not quite and it just ends up ruining our draft choice.

This year, because we don’t have our draft choice, we would actually root for this massive run because it would give Boston a lesser draft pick.

Does the fact that the optics have changed mean that the Leafs will screw this up because the big winning streak is in the teams’ best interest, or are we about to experience the first glimpse of a Leafs team going on a run when they aboslutely have to?

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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, that’s so fucking scary. Exactly what I was thinking of an hour ago.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

For the record

It was SkinnyFish that didn’t learn the lesson!

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by PPP on Jan 21, 2010 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

I blame you.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

As do I.

I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.

by SkinnyFish on Jan 21, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The reason they won in Nash and lost in Atl?
Two words: goal tending

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Story of this entire season.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 21, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Short story.

jared must be the author.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

if i wrote it, there would be more tits and explosions

Puns, Innuendo and Bad Spelling, Yes We Got That

by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Mitchell shouldn’t be just in the press box, he should be dumped. He hasn’t done athing this year. I don’t even think he has been as good as Wallin. And Wallin has been a bucket of crap.

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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jan 21, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Except John Mitchell makes about half of what Wallin does, so as long as Wallin is only 50% as terrible as John Mitchell, he’s probably earned his money.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Mitchell, that is.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Still

John Fucking Mitchell has not impressed me in the least, even as a 3rd/4th liner.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

john fucking mitchell is doo doo.

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s been in over his head. He can live on the fourth line which he showed last year and he’s making under $500K. You need players like that to succeed under the cap.

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by PPP on Jan 21, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s an effective nobody. Unfortunately for him we’ll want a cheaper nobody when it’s time for this team to win.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He was arguably the team’s worst forward defensively judging by his numbers and what I saw on the ice last year. The difference was that we thought he’d grow out of it and he was contributing at the other end of the rink.

This year he’s kept up his acumen for always staring stupidly at the back of the man he’s supposed to be covering while the puck goes in the net, but he’s really been doing little on the forecheck either.

by koopa kid on Jan 21, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

he did have that goal where he was standing in front of the goalie with his stick in the air, and Kessel banked the puck in off the stick

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That was pretty awesome. I’d like to do a control test with a cardboard cutout before I start assigning value to that, though.

by koopa kid on Jan 21, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

oooooooohhh, cardboard cutout joke! come on brain…. come on!

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s sad because I want to like Mitchell. Southern Ontario boy, watched him on the Marlies. Hell in a blog post before last season I called him to take the 4th line center spot on the team.

But he’s just been dreadful pre- and post- injury this season. And while I can see what Burke and Wilson like about the kid, he’s quickly falling into the trap of being not quite skilled enough to be a top 6 guy but not quite sharp enough defensively to be on the bottom 6. The kid needs a wake-up call pretty soon.

by koopa kid on Jan 21, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, I see him exactly that way as well. He had flashed last year of #2 centre potential, just hasn’t been anywhere near there this season.

Worth a packaged deal for a draft pick at the deadline perhaps?

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely

Leafs should wash their hands of any and every player who’s struggling this year. He’s got a season under his belt already. No more babying prospects Burke! If they can’t develop in their first 82 games, obviously they suck.

/end sarcastic rant

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

/anton stralman, jiri tlusty

Not that we want to bring up that can of worms ;)

by koopa kid on Jan 21, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

so

it’s ok to toss Mitchell overboard, but not Tlusty or Stralman?

Mitchell doesn’t need a wake up call, he doesn’t need to be dumped in the minors for eternity or anything else. He needs time to develop. He’s shown flashes of NHL level skill and is only 24. He was a 5th round pick who’s done more with his NHL level opportunities than either of Tlusty or Stralman. Sure, Tlusty and Stralman probably got screwed thanks to Maurice, but that’s not the point. Mitchell could still be a useful player. Lots of guys have poor showings in their second season. It’s called the sophomore slump for a reason…

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

toss them all overboard.

LACK OF FORESIGHT FTW!!!!!

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, everyone’s available this year to be moved almost, so if he has some trade equity…

I dunno, he’s in the good graces of Coach W, so that’ll keep him around for a while still. I just see him at or near the bottom of the team’s prospects list right now, relative to the other guys that have had tea so far. Only time will tell though.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

the Leafs just aren’t deep enough, and as far as everyone being available, I completely agree.

I just don’t like seeing players get dumped on at their first sign of troubles. This is why Toronto is considered a tough market to play in, let alone develop in. I’m not saying Mitchell is good right now, or that he’ll ever be, but I don’t think a season and a half of hockey is much of a development.

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we’ve already done more than enough dumping of low cost, early 20s players who are incomplete but still have a decent ceiling. He’ll kick around with the team and if he comes along great, if not then it’s a struggling player for struggling player trade (ala Latendresse for Pouliot, except not likely to be as successful) or the slow fade into obsolescence.

He is, in theory, a power forward and that style will take years to develop.

by koopa kid on Jan 21, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m all for that, as long as they don’t try him with Phillip again!
Let’s see if he can be a competent checker for a while first.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually find Burke/Wilson’s idea that a player destined for an offensive role must be on the top 2 lines a little suspect. Lots of decent players started their careers as checkers before their full talents blossomed. Johan Franzen was playing on Detroit’s fourth line in 2006.

by koopa kid on Jan 21, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn’t everyone in Detroit start on the 4th line pretty much?

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

yup, Zetterberg, Dastyuk both had their turns.
They’re trying Ville Leino too, but he’s not working so well so far.

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t they have Yzerman and Shanny and Holmstrom playing top line minutes though, they could afford to do that.

Can We?

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s also not Burke’s philosophy. so I don’t worry too much about whether or not we can.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the key difference in the development models between the two teams. For example, Detroit has had one.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

trade idea:

should burke go after cody hodgson from VAN?
he had some kind of back problems in the summer, and hasnt really rebounded this year, so his value might have slipped from TOP PROSPECT to INJURY BUST.
if so, he might be available for someone like Poni or Stajan at the deadline.

Sure its a risk, but he could become a franchise type of centre and he’s never going to have a lower value than he does presently. compared to cory schneider who has had no negative impact to his value all year and would still cost a pretty penny for any GM to pry him away from the moose.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

Yes we’ll offer Vancouver our draft picks wait unnecessary prospectsmaybe our good players that would help Vancouver can we just buy Hodgson?

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

that is always the dream

but if this happened, gillis’ panties would get so wound up they could never be extricated.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

no

when you sit out a full year of hockey at 20 years old, what is the likelihood you’ll ever make it?

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I say 2-1 with no reasoning behind it.

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure his back problems won’t be recurring. Most people with back problems get over them quickly.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

like Steve Sullivan?

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Khabibulin.

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

Yeah.

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by PPP on Jan 21, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Bossy.

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Brokeback Bulin…

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

we're not doctors

if his back thing was a one-time injury as opposed to a life-long kind of defect, then his potential dramatically changes.

im not saying its not risky, but look at patrice bergeron. great promise, devastating concussion, slow/unsure recovery, seems to be back at an elite level.

if you take a gamble on a guy while he’s recovering, it could pay off handsomely.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

My understanding is that Hodgson has been cleared to play all year. The only reason he’s not is because he’s decided not to.

read into that what you will

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i read that

grachev, duchene, and mccollum are gone. battalion are crap this year, why risk it for a junk team?

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

So he’ll only try when his team is ridiculously stacked?

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by PPP on Jan 21, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i think if there is an upside

hes old (20 this february). he’s already drafted. he made an OHL final, won an mvp.

would mario have made repeated comebacks if the team wasn’t in a financial abyss?

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

but he consulted a second doctor after being cleared to play and then stated he wasn’t healthy enough.

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Canucks and Moose doctors both cleared him, but his personal physician didn’t.

Can’t see why the Canucks would want to ruin a highly rated prospect over a botched diagnosis, but stranger things have happened. I just think the whole thing reflects poorly on his attitude and commitment, which at his age and level, is all he’s got to bank on.

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Canucks and Moose doctors both cleared him, but his personal physician didn’t.

…reflects poorly on his attitude and commitment.

dont see how #2 follows from #1

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a tough call, I mean you do see team doctors getting diagnoses wrong to err on the side of getting a player back in the lineup. Though I wouldn’t think they’d do that with a prospect they would have almost certainly returned to junior anyways.

Just something strange about this whole deal, to be honest.

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by stucky on Jan 21, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

preceeded by "I just think..."

aka, my opinion. yours differs so, what does it reflect?

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

anyway

my whole reasoning is that there arent a lot of great free agents coming up (brendan morrison might be the only realistic #1 option we can go with next year). or we overbid for guys like plekanec or take b-grade options like lombardi.

our most realistic option could be to go after players who are at low tide, or guys who could be squeezed out.

eg. horcoff is stuck in edm, but o’sullivan/gagner/cogliano/brule might represent future potential
eg. phx has turris/mueller/hanzal/tikhonov and eventually has to pare that down.

these might be the kinds of situations where you pry away a guy that has unknown value/potential, and hope it works out.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

we have guys in the system with unknown potential – Bozak, Kadri. I wish we had more, but I don’t see why we’d bother with any of those guys this summer when we have some in the system who have higher ceilings.

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

edm – O’Sullivan and Brule have been converted to wingers (i ithink Brule has, for sure on O’Sullivan. Neither’s having all that good a year either…)

phx – Mueller has been converted to wing as well, and neither Mueller nor Tikhonov are even NHL ready yet. Makes no sense for Phx to move now when they’ve got nothing to replace with.

also, it’s likely a prospect like Hodgson will cost picks. Lots of them. Add to that, the prickly (to put it politely) relationship Burke and Nonis have with Gillis and I think the idea is dead in the water…

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

err
Mueller Turris nor Tikhonov

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

not these specifially

but moreso that teams with logjams of similar talent/position might flip one of them just to clear up the roster a bit.

we can’t steal rfas. we cant trade for established prospects/nhlers. there arent many top ufas who are going to make it to market. our scouting/draft potential in the next 2-3 yrs will produce unknown quantities.

ergo, we might need to take chances on some players without knowing exactly what they will yield, but hope like hell.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be nice, but the Canucks aren’t in desperate need to move Hodgson. Their price would be firm and would include picks.

For an idea like yours, Burke needs to focus on cap squeezed teams. Teams like the Flames, Blackhawks, Habs and Bruins might need some cap relief to get a full roster signed. But it could require the Leafs taking on bad contracts.

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

why anybody wanted a salary cap is beyond me.

by birky on Jan 21, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

stupid fucking small market teams.

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey at least Ottawa, one of the most vocal teams FOR the cap, got royally fucked BY the cap.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, I savoured that delicious irony..

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

fucking ottawa.

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I concur.

And the SNES getting boned by the salary cap is priceless.

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by stucky on Jan 21, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Truthulence!

Truculence...starting 10/1/09

by LeafBoy on Jan 21, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i actually hope the leafs win the lottery draft, boston drafts taylor hall, and he’s a huge f*cking bust.

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by daoust on Jan 21, 2010 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

It would be nice. But I’d rather the safer route of giving them a pick in the 8-10 range and making Boston’s scouts work for a good player.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I have downgraded my expectations

I am no longer on the “20th or Bust” Train…

Now it is “23rd or Bust” At least we will draft lower than last year!

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

25th or bust

That way Boston won’t draft #1. Anything above 25th is just gravy ;)

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by LeafBoy on Jan 21, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Alternate option: he dies in a tragic accident that I had NOTHING to do with.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesn’t make the team, and then Chiarelli trades him to us for our Calder winner in 2012 – who just happens to be a total bust job…

Hall Languishes in the minors for a few years but when we call him up he is the nuts…

The Calder winner we traded gets bought out twice…

(no, the Calder winner is not Kadri)

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

obvious the Calder winner is D’Amigo

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

wait, this all seems familiar

almost as if this same dance was choreographed by everyone’s favourite hated shortbus

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll have this, largesize the fries with a Coke please.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Seroous Question

Eklund (I know) says you are among the faves to land Kovalchuk.

Even if the rumour is wrong, would you want him?

If he comes to Tronna, and the Monster turns out to be the real deal, then you’d be a couple of d-men away from having a very good team.

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Over under on Kovalchuk goals per 82 games as a Leaf 15.5

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

over.

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

go back to hfboards

by birky on Jan 21, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

LA or BOS

have the assets and post-season ambitions to pitch for Ilya.

If he goes to either, he would probably re-sign (though it might cost Bergeron his spot on the team)

Plus LA has the cap space and the new go-ahead from ownership to invest in a superstar (according to a recent Lombardi interview)

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

At this point if I’m Chiarelli the only thing holding me back from throwing down on Kovalchuk is seeing if the Bruins get healthy.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like our 1st pick is going to Hotlanta.

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see why not. Boston has the defence and the goaltending to win the Stanley Cup I think. Might as well trade both first rounders to do it.

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by PPP on Jan 21, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. Pull the trigger and say fuck it. You’re playing with house money.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I am pleased with this. Atlanta will ruin whoever they get with our pick.

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

or we can fleece waddell and get it back for kaberle

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh now this I like.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Don Waddell we’re prepared to offer YOU

2 2nd round picks and MATT STAJAN

for our measly one pick back.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Waddell’s a moron.

Give them Hanson and Stajan and 2 seconds, he’ll take it!

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by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Waddell - "Whoa whoa whoa, whadda ya take me for, a maroon?

throw in that Wallin guy instead of Hanson. At least Wallin produced in the SEL and I’ll be getting a proven commodity."

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

ill trade you

this DELICIOUS door-stop for your crummy old danish.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

In all seriousness though, i watched the prospects game last night, and as far as i can see if we were going to give up a high draft pick this was the year to do it. No one is standing out as amazing to me. Maybe i’m just watching through the ‘we traded our pick’ glasses. Cross our fingers next years crop is even worse….

by Army13 on Jan 21, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, not really anything jaw dropping last night.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

or that could mean the top 3-5 arent head & shoulders above the rest. or that they just dont play a flashy game but will be very valuable to their teams.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re the man with the plan today, I like it!

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by stucky on Jan 21, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Would I be a total Debbie Downer if I noted that Don Waddell got Kubina for Exelby?

Might fall under the “broken clock is right twice a day” file, but it’s worth noting.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

salary cap trade. When it’s a trade he initiates, it always goes wrong.

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

cap trade

kubina $5m became exelby $1.7m + komisarek $4.5m

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I know what our logic was, but Atlanta didn’t give up Komisarek.

From Atlanta’s side they gave up Exelby and a marginal prospect and got back Kubina.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

good deal for them, good deal for the Leafs. Kubina didn’t fit in long term with Burke’s vision, so he got the space he needed to sign Komisarek. Atlanta got a good, albeit a touch overpaid, d-man.

If you look at it as Kubina for XLB and whatshisface, it makes zero sense. Burke didn’t trade Kubina for XLB, he traded him for Komisarek. Just in a round about way.

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Or, it’s Kubina and Stralman for Exelby and Primeau. Which is somewhat more palatable.

Plus cap-space.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

but sadly

without finger (3.5) you wouldnt have needed to do that
(finger 3.5 + exelby 1.7 could be kubina 5)

finger fucked us again.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Fletcher fucked us on that one by somehow confusing Jeff Finger and Kurt Sauer.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

oh i know

i knew it right away. when i heard the signing & the rationale & the contract, i knew there was a mistake.

all the reasons wilson/fletch gave were wrong:
young guy (sauers younger)
reliable (finger was scratched down the stretch for colorado
shutdown v sharks in the playoffs (finger was scratched)

getting drunk on a summer’s afternoon + old-man alzheimers =

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ironically,

Atlanta picked Kovalchuk.

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by Blinky on Jan 21, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

and Patrick Stefan

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

and Dany Heatley

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by Blinky on Jan 21, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

and Evander Kane!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

zack Bogosian

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Kari Lehtonen

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

touche

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Braydon Coburn

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by Blinky on Jan 21, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Simon Gamache

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, i remember that name that is familiar to me

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Boris Valabik.

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

BRYAN FUCKING LITTLE

FUCK YEAH

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by Blinky on Jan 21, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Colin Stuart

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Mentioning the fraud’s name on here is a bannable offense.

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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

you win, but I typed more

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He is called ‘The Fraud’ here… naming him in any other way gives him more credit than what he is due.

Also, never reference ‘The Fraud’ in a trade rumour… he is only to be spoken in terms of contempt and mockery.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Want him? Yes.
Afford him? No.
Want to pay him what he wants? No.

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by PPP on Jan 21, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

want to give him the term he wants? No.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I would just say “no”. He produces similarly to Kessel at ES. We just need a working power play and we already have Kovalchuk for half the price.

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by Chemmy on Jan 21, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

toronto

would still not have the #1 centre to make them both click. and your cap situation would be blown out of the water to ever try and get one.

so would Kovy + (Antropov + Afinogenov) = Kovy + (Kessel)???

probably about as effective in terms of kessel’s improvement, but your team is still lacking the top centre.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 21, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Eklund He who must not be linked!

That said, getting Kovalchuk at the deadline makes no sense. I’m sure the price for him would include a 1st round pick (that the Leafs do not have apparently).

Wait for UFA if possible…or trade something random for his rights a week before July 1 to get him signed.

That’s if the Leafs are gonna get him of course. Should they? No idea. He’d get a king’s ransom…lol

Truculence...starting 10/1/09

by LeafBoy on Jan 21, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Just in a meeting, tried to start the Kovalchuk for our 1st rumor, hope it makes its way to the right people, if it hits the media, it’s all me baby.

Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?

by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

wooo, good job!

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Somebody post something dammit.

Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?

by ohshrit on Jan 21, 2010 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

something?

Truculence...starting 10/1/09

by LeafBoy on Jan 21, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

No Tokarski? I suddenly find myself unable to care.

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by Wrap Around Curl on Jan 21, 2010 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

Would we really be able to cope with Curl if the opposite happened?

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 21, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, cos the Leafs can shell anyone. A better question would be, “Do you want to see his chest bruised by all the pucks fired straight at it?”

/disillusionment

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by article1 on Jan 21, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Tokarski will probably Wilson someone tonight
my guess is Stempniak

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

this is why your videos are so awesome

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

are you saying drugs arn’t bad?

mmkay?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

they got us the pythagorian theorem

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by Karina on Jan 21, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds like voodoo to me

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by blurr1974 on Jan 21, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

right up there with gravity

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

zombie geometary?

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by article1 on Jan 21, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

a squared + b squared = braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 21, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

can’t wait for that video! Was Carey Price in it?

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 21, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

PPP didn’t learn my lesson about making fun of bad goalies when he confidently stated that the Leafs would have no trouble handling Ondrej Pavelec.

At least he did learn the lesson about not predicting how many shots we’d need on the goalie to win the game, so that we can come one shot below that guess and lose by one.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 21, 2010 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

that was epic – should have gotten lottery tix after that game

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 21, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have been one off the jackpot.

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by PPP on Jan 21, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

couple hundred tho is fine with me

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 22, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

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