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Pelting you with Snowballs and Maple Leaf Related Links

For today's FTB intro I want to pass along a story that PPP nation member JaredfromLondon left in Sunday's Chatty Cathy. It is hilarious.

So I'm driving home from Pizza Hut, coming along a highschool on the right side of the road, when suddenly from the treeline surrounding the school comes a flurry of snowballs. Two or three hit my car but I don't get a look at the offender. So I turn around and drive down the other side of the road, same thing, but this time I pinpoint the location in the trees where the snowballs are coming from.
 I drive around the block pull into the school parking lot, pull my work winter boots and heavy jacket out of the trunk, grab some gloves and my touque and slink up to the treeline from behind in the dark. I get close enough and I see three kids, 15, maybe 17 years old giggling and throwing snowballs at a passing car.
I make 10 or so snowballs.
As the next car passes, they all stand up and start heaving; then I open fire. I drill these kids good in the back two or three times each. They get confused and start yelling and swearing as I duck behind some brush. They hadn't seen me or where I threw from. I make one more snowball and I hear them start to walk out. I peek out and see that they aren't looking at me but are maybe 20 feet away, and I just gun my final snowball and hit the fattest one right in the center of his back, he screams and they all run.

(Edited extensively for proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation.)

Do not mess with Jared's car.

Hit me with them snowballs links!

Star-divide

Maverick: Wilson's lost that loving feeling. Goose: He has. I hate it when he does that [budblog]

Looking back at some pre-season predictions [Hungry Leafs Fan]

Looking at the Evan Bourne's and Jack Swagger's of the Maple Leafs [general borschevsky]

By way of the KHL comes this bizarre deflection goal [via Puck Daddy]

A look at why Saturday's game in Florida was so damn boring [The Hockey Writers]

Toronto Mike knows how to cure what ails you [Toronto Mike]

Maple Leafs or Oilers, who sucks the least? [Vintage Leaf Memories]

Borje Salming? I thought his name was Bloge Salming. New pics up at [Vintage Leafs]

Listen to WAC Leafs and stop being boring [Wrap Around Curl]

Morning latecomers:

jrwendelman starts a series of guest appearances at MLHS by channeling his inner Stewart Smalley [MLHS]

Rock Outta SoCal gives us his Monday Morning Hangover on the Leafs. I'm surprised he didn't quote a line from Aliens in his write up [Greetings from SoCal]

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Hahahaha, rec’d for the vigilantism of Jared!

Also, I’ve agreed to post the occasional thingy over at MLHS. Here’s the first installment of that.. Please be kind; I’m blogging from a disadvantage as I do not have a basement.

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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Jan 25, 2010 7:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Paul Quarrington HNIC Tribute Opening

Oh, and for those of you who missed the Paul Quarrington tribute opening to HNIC this past Saturday: here’s the YouTubers link.

Paul Quarrington died last week at age 56 of lung cancer; he was a novelist, musician and serious Leafs fan. He wrote, among other things, Whale Music and King Leary, a book that hockey fans everywhere should read. Quarrington’s book Whale Music inspired the Rheostatics to write a number of songs on their magnum opus record Whale Music. Quarrington, a musician himself, liked the Rheos’ album so much that he asked them to write the music for the film Whale Music, which they did, and which can be found on the soundtrack album Music from the Motion Picture Whale Music, not to be confused with the album Whale Music. Comprende?

The song in the Quarrington vid is Dope Fiends and Boozehounds by the Rheostatics, from the aforementioned Whale Music. No, not that one, the other one.

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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Jan 25, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That was an amazing intro.

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by PPP on Jan 25, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Jan 25, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was great Saturday night and it was cool seeing it again this morning. Thanks.

Go Leafs Go!!!

by Another Good Kingston Boy on Jan 25, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, loved that intro. RIP Paul Quarrington, an amazing and talented artist leaves us too soon.

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by stucky on Jan 25, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Gloriously rec’d, furcifer you magnificent bastard!

Also: long time no see, yes?

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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Jan 25, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

GO READ THIS

Great piece. Sadly, it only took 12 comments to have 3 of the unworthy readers to chime in with asshole comments.

Poor Owen! Imagine if he had missed it?

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by PPP on Jan 25, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously. And thx, Triple P…

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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Jan 25, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

added

I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.

by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, SF!

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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Jan 25, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Awesome piece junior! Reminds me of a couple road trips I had to see the Hip as well. Good times.

And you’re completely right. The constant losing makes it too easy to see the negativity that we miss the positives that are there. I look forward to those instalments.

I also like the fact that your post was so long that it helped me waste a few minutes at work. Hurray for lack of productivity!

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by stucky on Jan 25, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

This is kinda boosting my own ego

but I try to look at the positives after each loss (never mind that at least one of them relates to Schenn in some way…)

by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 25, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve hidden the sharp objects in my house and while watching Toronto I snort prozac.

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by Chemmy on Jan 25, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Not a bad idea in the short term. I’m hoping we canre-integrate with decent, knife-using folk in the longer term.

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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Jan 25, 2010 11:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

briliant,
& thanks for cleaning that up for those of us who are not sailors.

by somny on Jan 25, 2010 7:45 AM EST reply actions  

Awesome story Jared

Well done. Thatnks for sharing that SkinnyFish.

by general borschevsky on Jan 25, 2010 8:19 AM EST reply actions  

Florida’s game wasn’t just Vokoun standing on his head like the story implies that they have been doing.

CBC showed screenshots during the game which showed all 5 panthers playing pretty much playing between the red line and their blue line. The forecheck was absolutely 0. At least the devils send 1 guy in and leave 4 back. It was godawful.

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by JohnnyG on Jan 25, 2010 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed. And this was from the get-go. It wasn’t after they got a 1-0 lead or anything. The game was just unbearable to watch. We had plenty of shots but most of which weren’t legitimate scoring chances.

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by Hungry Leafs Fan on Jan 25, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Incoming!

I wrote my Monday Morning Hangover on the Leafs and what they can do with certain players before the trade deadline and/or this offseason.

-- Rock

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by Rock Outta SoCal on Jan 25, 2010 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

added

I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.

by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

take this with a BIG grain of salt, but....

apparently Phoenix has inquired about Stajan and Burke has contacted the LA Kings about Jack Johnson

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

yay?

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Jan 25, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Yay

But Jack Johnson is terrible.

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by PPP on Jan 25, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO MORE DEFENSEMEN!

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he wants big bucks too

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Some people really like him but I’m just not into acoustic music all that much. Oh, you mean the defenceman? Yeah, I’d rather not trade for him.

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by Hungry Leafs Fan on Jan 25, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

at least everyone would be in a better mood with all the nice music in the dressing room

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 25, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

de bo debadee do dodododod delada doop abopp a deboda

I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.

by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Brian Burke:

You can never have too many shitty defensemen.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

If it was all the Leafs except Kessel for doughty, it might be considered

Though all the Leafs are still not worth doughty (unfortunately)

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 25, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

5 years he will be a UFA!!! Whoooo Doughty in 2015!

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 25, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m giving this an e5 on the Johnson, and an e4 on the Stajan

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 25, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Leafs trade Stajan for Jack Johnson who they flip to Atlanta for Kovalchuk you heard it here first (e2)

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by Chemmy on Jan 25, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

With Jason Blake going to Hot-Lanta as well (e3)

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 25, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

So The Star has an article with the headline “If only Leafs could draft the likes of Drew Doughty”. Umm…do they not realize that Doughty was drafted second overall? How many teams could say they drafted a Drew Doughty-type player? I know! Why not replace the name Drew Doughty with Sidney Crosby or Alexander Ovechkin if you’re looking to get more readers.

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by Hungry Leafs Fan on Jan 25, 2010 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

the leafs would also have to tank for about 7 years before they would have any support around doughty

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 25, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I really wouldn’t doubt that.

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by JohnnyG on Jan 25, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

The writer doesn’t really mention Schenn too much in the article but if that was indeed what he was trying to do, it wouldn’t make much sense unless the Leafs took Schenn over Doughty…which nobody in their right mind would do.

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by Hungry Leafs Fan on Jan 25, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

im shocked the article wasnt about how the leafs need a guy like tyler myers

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 25, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

It just seems now that whenever a writer brings up a young dman they start comparing them to Luke, Which would be fine except obviously they are not all playing the same game. As we know it is completely unfair to compare a Defensive D to an Offensive one. They play two completely different games, yet that fact always seems to escape the more simple minded reporters in the city.

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by JohnnyG on Jan 25, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not so much unfair as it is senseless (in terms of a doughty-schenn comparison). Doughty is so far ahead of Schenn in the talent department, is pointless. Obviously, if the Leafs had the #2 pick in 2008, they take Doughty.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m just praying that Taylor Hall is the next Patrik Stefan.

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by Chemmy on Jan 25, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

…or Alexandre Daigle.

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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Jan 25, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Or...

Brian Lawton.

Also, y’know when Daigle said nobody would remember No.2 in his draft class? I’m hoping no-one remembers No. 1, 2, or 3 in this year’s draft.

by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 25, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Cam Fowler is going to be good. He was solid in the Juniors

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 25, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately for Daigle, #2 in that draft won the Hart, the Norris and has his name engraved on the Cup.

I was at that draft.

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by Chemmy on Jan 25, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

How long did it take Jason Allison to get up to the podium?

by Hansmoleman on Jan 25, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s just hitting the steps now…

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

you know what’s sad?

if Hall is just as good as Kessel over his career, Leafs bomb that trade.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree.

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by Chemmy on Jan 25, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Hall didn’t play this year, and probably won’t the next at the least.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Because Kessel’s elite talent and we previously had none. It’s easy to use hindsight and say “Well obviously Hall and [2011 guy] are awesome” but we could burn two first rounders on Jiri Tlusty and Alex Steen.

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by Chemmy on Jan 25, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I’m sure Stojanov for Naslund made sense to someone at the time. Doesn’t make it any less lopsided.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Well except for the obvious point that Kessel isn’t Stojanov.

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by PPP on Jan 25, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

My point was that trades are evaluated in hindsight.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but even a draft pick evaluated in hind sight is still not the whole story. Thats why the Luongo pick / trade is pretty much hooey because the Leafs probably would not have drafted Luongo

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

even if they hadn’t, the chances of drafting a solid NHL player in the top 5 is incredibly high.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but a solid player and a VERY good player are two different things,
Kessel is a VERY good player, if the draft picks net one it is a wash

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

so if you trade a 35 goal scorer for another 35 goal scorer, plus a 20 goal scorer, it’s a wash?

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Id also like to point out

Come draft time the value of really high picks in NHL currency is higher than what the actual player is. People go nuts to move up spots or have their hearts set on someone and will overpay for the pick. Its like a $10 dollar bill buying you $15 worth of stuff.

by Icion on Jan 25, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, because you have the 35 goal scorer now, not 3-4 years down the road

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

but what good does that 35 goal scorer do for you right now when the team is still so bad that it finishes in the bottom 3 of the league?

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Kessel will be entering his prime physical years in a couple seasons from now Seasons where he is locked up
what good is any good player on a team that currently sucks?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

sure, he’s locked up at 5.4 million. if Hall scores 35 goals in his third season at 900k, that’s a pretty big difference in bang for your buck.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

yup, but then halls 3rd season might be 5 seasons away
Kessel very well might have scored 40 goals every year up to that

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

could only be 3 seasons though. who knows.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Chemmy – I don’t mean to be a dick, but do you really think Kessel is “elite” talent?

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

not right now he isnt

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Jan 25, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Get him a line to work with

He will be better. He needs a decent linemate or 2 to help him live up to his potential. Having a car without a supply of gas really cuts the value.

by Icion on Jan 25, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

to flip the coin...

most of the guys in the NHL that are considered “elite” players don’t need a lot of talent around them to produce.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I agree

I’m not trying to defend/attack Kessel im just pointing out he seems to be someone who needs linemates to help and not to base his actual skill on what hes showing right now. If the nucks run 5 forwards infront of luongo hes gonna look worse than he really is.

by Icion on Jan 25, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure. He’s top ten in even strength production per ice time.

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by Chemmy on Jan 25, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Right now this season he’s probably closer to 25th but that’s a function of what’s around him. Elite players should make players around them better and I think Kessel does; Kulemin’s been showing flashes of brilliance lately, but even a Joe Thornton or Dany Heatley wouldn’t be doing a lot on the Leafs.

Sure a Crosby, Malkin or Ovechkin would single handedly make it work but they’re above “elite”. Generational.

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by Chemmy on Jan 25, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

fair enough.

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

So if the Leafs traded one player that was just as good as the other it’s a bomb? That makes no sense.

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by PPP on Jan 25, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

if you assume that next year’s pick is in the top 10, yeah, it’s a bad trade for the Leafs

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what they say about assuming…

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by PPP on Jan 25, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

WE ARE NOT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN

I mean, I agree. But i just CAN’T.

THe kessel deal is done.

by pevans on Jan 25, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

A year and a half in, the 08 draft hasn’t been overly impressive.

Stamkos, doughty and Bogosian are head and shoulders above anyone else, which is why they went 1-2-3. Starting with the #7 pick, the Leafs never had a shot at any of them.

Pietrangelo hasn’t done anything in the NHl yet.
Filatov’s already gone back to Russia, and who knows if he decides to come back.
Colin Wilson has played 10 games for the Preds.
Boedker hasn’t exactly set the world on fire with Phoenix (30 points in 88 games)
Hodgson, Beach, Teubert have yet to get there
And Tyler Myers has had a very good rookie season, but so did Luke. Myers also gets to play in front of a likely Vezina winning goaltender to start his career, while Schenn played with at best AHL calibre goaltending.

At this point, Schenn is likely the 5th best player from that draft (just ahead of Boedker, just behind Myers). He was taken 5th overall. The Leafs used the 5th overall pick to acquire the player who’s made the 5th best contribution in the NHL to his team.

I…. fail to see the problem here.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 25, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

A few points

To judge the ’08 draft 19 months after the fact is a bit premature.

The Hockey News had an excellent analysis back in November (subscription only, I’ll try to dig it out). It found that, on average, it takes three (maybe four) years for a draft pick to make an impact in the NHL.

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Toronto Star can do it, I don’t see why we can’t.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 25, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Two wrongs don’t make a right?

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re right.

Quite frankly, I’ve reached my limit of the negativity of the MSM, and my only recourse is to show their lazy asses up.

Sports wise, this entire goddamn city is in a deep depression, and the media is the guy that keeps walking around reminding you how shitty things are. When the team hits a small winning patch, and wins, say 4 of 6, why they do feel obligated to point out after the 2nd loss that the team “lost for the 2nd time in 6 days”, instead of saying they are “4-2 in their last 6”? Why is it that no matter what the story is, it’s got a negative spin?

Why can’t we be happy that for once the team traded up to identify a talented prospect, and while he’s worked through growing pains, he is largely delivering on his promise, and early returns are that he’s been one of the better prospects from his draft class? What good does it do to bring up a player who was (A) always ranked better than Schenn (B) has been better than Schenn and © was never a realistic option for the Leafs that year? You play the hand you’re dealt in life. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas.

It’s such a goddamned shame that the media can’t do anything other than pile on and keeping kicking the team and its fans when it’s down. They can’t provide any insight from a tactical perspective on what’s wrong, other than to spout cliches. They can’t provide objective analysis of the performances of players and management without keeping some sort of agenda. They can’t even provide any insight on whether there’s any hope in our young propsects, even though the farm team plays five minutes down the road, and the team’s best prospect plays only two hours away.

And Toronto somehow maintains this mantra of being incredibly “media-friendly” to its players? I tell you what; if the choice is between the hacks covering the team here, and the hacks covering the team in Ottawa (which as DGB has famously noted, needed to learn how to type their columns with pom-poms), then I choose the guys up in Ottawa. Because at least then I’d occasionally hear the media report something that reinforces my belief that things will get better.

Fuck.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 25, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Here’s a tip: don’t read the media.

I used to blog almost weekly about the latest sports media lunacy, but after a few years I realized it was pointless. It also made me grumpy.

There’s so much Leaf info out there that you can get it all via osmosis. The best is usually aggregated through the various blogs of the Barilkosphere and it spares you having to read Berger’s when he goes off his meds.

Let’s face it, the media covering the Leafs are:

  1. focused on the quotidian (who’s in, who’s out, who’s hurt and who said what);
  2. have seniority, are lazy and can phone it in week after week;
  3. don’t think there’s a broad market for x’s and o style analysis;
  4. don’t have a background or training (law, accounting, math, etc.) to step back and provide higher level insight/analysis that you can get from blogs;
  5. Are producing content on deadline and don’t have the time for proper longitudinal studies;
  6. Some combination of all of the above

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Jared gets into a lot of fights with teenagers.

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by Chemmy on Jan 25, 2010 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

Has Jared ever beaten someone up for making fun of his spelling/grammar?

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 25, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you a teenager? You should find out.

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by Chemmy on Jan 25, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m 19. I’ll give it a try

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 25, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

wasnt so much a fight as a life lesson

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Jared gets into a lot of beds fights with teenagers.

fixed.

Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?

by ohshrit on Jan 25, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

he wishes

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by Karina on Jan 25, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

ew no
teen agers are painfully irritating

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

no that’s just the rash you get after sleeping with them.

Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?

by ohshrit on Jan 25, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet Jason Blake is amazing at snowball fights. He hits the opponent’s chest 98% of the time!

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by Jo4nny on Jan 25, 2010 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

Toskala, of course, is the hardest person in the universe to hit.

You show me a fox that's learned to deal with the Leafs' recent play, and I'll show you a dead fox.

by JP Nikota on Jan 25, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

natural camouflage helps

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

You forgot Andrew Raycroft!

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 25, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

We all wish we could forget about Andrew Raycroft.

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by Jo4nny on Jan 25, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I like this – rec

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 25, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Burke on Fan590

Here’s a really rough transcript:

Have not spoken with any existing UFAs about contract re-negotiations.

Have spoken with a few RFAs about re-signing, will not say who.

We have some pending UFAs that are overpaid, we’re looking at what they right value is that works for us and works for them.

On Kaberle: good player, good citizen, good price and good in the room.There’s no guarantee that he’ll be moved in the off-season.

Can you take on salary for picks? Yes. We are $2.5M under cap.

Kovalchuk – have not talked to Don Wadell. The rumour is Kovalchuk was offered over $8.5M for 10 years and turned it down. Even if it’s $8M at 8 years, we’re not interested in that amount of money or that term for any player.

The longest term that Burke has ever offered is 5 years. There’s nothing wrong with a 10 year deal, but some of the “back-structured” deals where it’s clear that the guy is going to retire before the deal is up. The League is investigating these deals and we won’t do deals that involve cap circumvention in Toronto.

We make every goalie look like an all-star. We take dumb penalties (cites Poni and Blake in Philly).

Our players have to prepare better.

Deals before the Olympic break? Too soon to say.

Is the plan to play Gustavsson as much as possible to determine if he can be a #1? That’s up to the coaches. Wilson has said he wants to get as many starts from Gustavsson as he possible can.

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

Can you take on salary for picks? Yes. We are $2.5M under cap.

Trade Kaberle for picks and we’re $6.75M under the cap and can really take on salary.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Burke said the team has the option of sending money to the minors if it means getting a pick for salary trade. It was a pretty passive statement from Burke.

Kypreos is now on the air going on about how the Leafs new plan is just to bury all sorts of guys in the minors. He claims Jason Blake is close to getting buried in the minors but could play on 15 teams in the NHL and be a 30 goal scorer.

I would love to see a video of the big hamster wheel in Kypreos’ head.

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

sans hamster

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

so thats where blake came from….

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m still amazed that Kypreos has held his job for so long as an “analyst”. I’m dead serious when I say I think he is mentally challenged.

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by Jo4nny on Jan 25, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Blake has played much better since mid November. I think he has been pretty effective, actually. He’s just showing his age and isn’t the goal scorer he used to be.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Two points in twelve games for all of January.

by general borschevsky on Jan 25, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely not worth 4 million, but there are lots of guys playing worse.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s something I really don’t understand. Burke won’t ask a guy to waive a NTC, but he’ll apparently bury a competent NHLer in the minors?

Is it just me or is something not adding up here?

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s just a bunch of hot air. I like Burke, but he often talks just for the sake of talking.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Burke needs to learn to shut the hell up. Ken Holland is the best GM in the league and you never hear a word out of him.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Lou has done a pretty good job over there in Joisey

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 25, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i remember kypreos telling bob mccown that blake would have 25 by new years his first year in toronto

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 25, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Burke says a lot of things, I’m not holding my breathe till he actually does something.

by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 25, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if it’s $8M at 8 years, we’re not interested in that amount of money or that term for any player.

i like this.

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Have not spoken with any existing UFAs about contract re-negotiations.
Have spoken with a few RFAs about re-signing, will not say who.

doesn’t look good for Stajan, Poni, and Stemps

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The fan590 guys said Ian White is looking at $10M/4 years, $2.5M cap hit.

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

lets hope it’s that low

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely sign that. That’s a great deal for White.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s a great deal for everybody.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 25, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s an excellent deal for the Leafs, especially considering the numbers generated by clrkaitken’s great posts. If that’s true sign him up Burkie!

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by stucky on Jan 25, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Kovalchuk is a sexy name, but you just know he’s going to cash his chips and play like Vince Carter did for the Raptors for the term of his deal.

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by Jo4nny on Jan 25, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

and we won’t do deals that involve cap circumvention in Toronto(edit – anymore, ever since Gary got his knickers in a knot when we helped Tampa out. GIVE ME BACK MY 4TH ROUNDER.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 25, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Doug MacLean says he’d rather have Kovalchuk at $8M/12 years than Kessel at $5.5M.

Kypreos and MacLean have a combined IQ of a half-dead squirrel.

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

HE DRAFTED RICK NASH

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

see what you can get with a top 5 pick Jared?

/kidding

by birky on Jan 25, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s cool. I’ll spend $8 million on Ian White and Phil Kessel, then laugh when my team kicks his team’s ass.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 25, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Bryan Murray...

…is now on the Fan.

Injuries mean teams have as many as 27 to 30 guys on the NHL payroll. It’s looking like many teams don’t have enough cap space/money to make big moves at the trade deadline.

Ottawa has no interest in Kovalchuk – we don’t have the financial resources to take on a contract of that size.

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Think of the history they'd make.

Kovalchuk – Spezza – Kovalev

Think of the potential. No line would ever have backchecked less. They’d set a record by having the lowest +/- ever recorded.

This deal must happen.

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by article1 on Jan 25, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Komisarek could be back on Saturday against Vancouver

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=513584&navid=DL|TOR|home

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

So here’s a dumb idea… one GM says he wants to make shootout wins worth 1.5 points.

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by stucky on Jan 25, 2010 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

dumb

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by Karina on Jan 25, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

real dumb

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 25, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

super dumb

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 25, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

This is beyond dumb. We’re in JFJ territory, people.

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by jrwendelman on Jan 25, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s get rid of shootouts

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 25, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

How many shootout losses does Columbus have?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 25, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I am deriving way too much enjoyment watching Canucks fans froth themselves into a frenzy over the whole Burrows/Maclean thing, STILL. Hell, news1130.com is running a poll about “do you agree with the team boycotting the CBC” and 82% are in favour, laff.

The most delicious part of it all is I was told by a Canucks fan I was being a huge whiner when I (mildly) complained about the quality of reffing in a game a while back. Now they are on some holy crusade and crying league conspiracy. Very, very entertaining.

Yes, I take my enjoyment where I can in this blasted season :(

by LeafFanInVan on Jan 25, 2010 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

Hell, my 3 highlights of the season are:

The ongoing success of my fantasy teams
Montreal imploding worse than we are
Vancouver’s inability to get the sand out of its lady parts.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 25, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Montreal is in the playoffs. How is that imploding?

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by mf37 on Jan 25, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Any port in a storm!

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