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"He’s asked to keep [a trade] in mind," Burke told SportingNews.com. "I’m not offended by that. He’s in the last year of his deal… He’d like to stay, he just wants to play."

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Again I doubt there’ll be any takers, but we’ll see.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

Are GMs incapable of working the phones? Should agents really be doing this type of spade work?

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 5:33 PM EST reply actions  

I really think that Burkie hasn’t found anyone who wants him, the agents feel they could do better.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s the last desperate step before waivers.

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

think Burke’ll put guys on waivers just to have roster spots open for younger guys at the end of the year?

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Doubt it.

The Leaf brass likes to talk about the kids earning their ice time with the Leafs. Don’t know that anyone on the Marlies has shown enough to push the team into waiving someone.

Would be a nice predicament to have.

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just thinking post-deadline, if we don’t have as many vets traded as Burke wants, if he’ll just waive some UFAs and see if there’s anything decent on the Marlies.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The return won't be great anyway

Burke probably gave his agent guidelines for the return that he would expect from Exelby and told his agent to do all of the grunt work. Burkes busy trying to pull blockbusters.

Anyways, in regards to what Karina said, I seem to remember us searching up youtube videos of Exelby and being impressed by his physicality and being happy with the acquisition. With that said, he is better then a couple starting players out there, although not many.

by SPENCEMAN on Jan 27, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

 The fraud always reports that the Kings are interested in him. But hey it’s the Fraud.

by 6rick6 on Jan 27, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

All the Thrashers fans who, kindly, posted here at PPP were all too happy to see him go. Never a good sign.

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Falconer18 later told me that he had studied a series of games to track what defencemen did with the puck and all he did was either dump it in or rip it off the glass.

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by PPP on Jan 27, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Burkes busy trying to pull blockbusters.

With the assets he has on hand? Good luck to Burke, he’ll need it.

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt Burke’s trying to drum up trade interest through the media, but these are the few times when I wish Burke would just shut his mouth.

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by bkblades on Jan 27, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

huh?
it’s the agents requesting this, I doubt Burke’s trying to manipulate anyone here.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean that Burke really doesn’t need to say anything that we don’t already have to know. His agent requested the trade interest, but who knows about revealing that to the media.

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by bkblades on Jan 27, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh. I’m fine with it. If it accomplishes nothing, we get no return for Exelby and Mayers, which everyone expected anyway. If someone bites, great. A conditional 6th is better than nothing (or worse, Garnet Exelby). If it buys any time at all for Burke to negotiate a better deal for one of the assets that’s actually worth something, I’m all for him unloading it on agents. That’s a rather hopeful assumption about motivation, I admit.

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by puckurgently on Jan 27, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

 Say what you will about Mayers and Exelby’s abilities but at least these guys have heart unlike Rickard Wallin who sucks balls.

by 6rick6 on Jan 27, 2010 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

And this is why so many hockey fans are derided in other sports. Heart? That isn’t a quantifiable measure at the very least, so why include it? It’s not like Wallin struggles on the ice because he wants to suck. How about we all just conclude that all three of these players have no future with the Leafs and be done with it.

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by bkblades on Jan 27, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

 When Komi comes back, Do you thing Finger will try and do the same thing? The only difference between him and these guys is his laughable contract and he already said that he’d rather play in the AHL than sit in the press box.

by 6rick6 on Jan 27, 2010 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

I think Finger knows he’s untradable.
If his agent starts looking to trade him, and there’s no takers, AHL is fine with me.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Finger goes home every night to his millions of dollars laughing “Bwahaha bench me all you want, i’m not going ANYWHERE”

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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 27, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The only reason Finger would rather play in the AHL is because he wouldn’t have to forfeit any escrow while playing in the minors.

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by BeyondBeleaf on Jan 29, 2010 4:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Considering the team run by Don Waddell has already rid itself of him, when no takers are found, this will have been the biggest cocktease in Leaf history.

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by puckurgently on Jan 27, 2010 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. I wish moving this guy would be as easy as it is in NHL10 Be a GM, because, honestly based on the season, who’s taking a flyer on him.

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 27, 2010 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

do you get anything good for him NHL10?

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

“Not Garnet Exelby” is, marginally speaking, something good.

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by puckurgently on Jan 27, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly, I’ll need to go back in my transaction history as it is not a pivotal moment on the season

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 27, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

So his agent is going to find a team where he can get more ice time than he can currently get on the worst defensive team in the world.

Good luck with that.

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by Down Goes Brown on Jan 27, 2010 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

worse defensive team

is not necessarily a reflection of poor defensemen or defensemen that suck. Poor defense, as in the case with the Leafs, is a team thing. Starting with forwards and ending with who we had in net – yes Toskala, I’m looking at you.

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by BlueBuds on Jan 27, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

the forwards have not been very good defensively at all… but our defensemen haven’t played as well as expected to, either.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, but...

Come on.

Exelby sucks.

So Handsome.

by Archimedies on Jan 27, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

There are teams with

a need for some “sand paper” on D I would imagine. I’m just not sure they’d want it from exelby.

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- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jan 27, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Think back to the offseason...

We can probably fool some fanbase into thinking the same thing we did.

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by Archimedies on Jan 27, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

First Mayers and now Exelby? Is there a market for marginal NHLers that I’m not aware of?

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by Hungry Leafs Fan on Jan 27, 2010 5:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

no. I just think their agents are refusing to believe that.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

players wanna play, too bad neither of them qualify as players.

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 27, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s called the KHL.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 27, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

you never know what can happen

first: bruins fans think the SS hal gill is a pylon
second: JFJ some idiot signs him to the leafs, and he rarely displays faster-than-allison speed.
third: someone pays an ACTUAL PICK to acquire him. TWO PICKS WTFZOMG!!!! 2nd & 5th, zut alors! Draft rebuild time!!!
fourth: hall gill wins a stanley cup?!??!?!!
fifth: old man schmafty wisely trades one of those picks for ryan hollweg
sixth: the SS hal gill docks in montreal for UFA money
seventh: after stopping through toronto and new york rangers, that traded 3rd round pick ends up back in the hands of pittsburgh. and they promptly draft Andy Bathgate, grandson of Former Leaf Champion Andy Bathgate and no doubt a boy of solid stock.

so wackiness happens. we all have our marginal opinions of exelby/mayers. but who knows?? maybe with these transactions we can one day end up with the grandson of jonathan toews.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 27, 2010 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

Is Burke’s son the assistant GM anywhere? Methinks the Hal Gill trade had a lot to do with Chuck Fletcher helping out his old man.

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the Hal Gill trade was when JFJ was still around?

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was one of Fletcher’s first moves?

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It was Fletcher

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, I always lump it in with the Kilger trade.
But I can’t actually remember.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

trivia thing – Andy Bathgate (the elder) scored the first goal in Pens history.

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by 1967ers on Jan 28, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

"I'm not offended by that."

I do find it funny that Burke worded like that though. “Garnet, I’m sorry you feel this way, but if I actually did find a trade partner, we really wouldn’t be having this conversation.”

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by bkblades on Jan 27, 2010 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

N.S.

the whole reason the players have to put this crap out there, and send their agents out to beat the bushes is because nobody thinks they’re worth anything. Not that I blame them for not wanting either player.

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jan 27, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Friend of PPP Eliotte Frideman tweets,


@FriedmanHNIC Maple Leafs should probably start notifying media when players don’t want a trade.

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 5:55 PM EST reply actions  

hahah! zing!

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 27, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Just so I'm clear

Asking somebody with a NTC if they’d consider waiving it = unethical, and not the way we do business

Advertising that two of your veteran players want out but you can’t find anyone who wants them = peachy

Have I got that?

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by Down Goes Brown on Jan 27, 2010 5:55 PM EST reply actions  

You forgot to mention that he’ll waive guys so that they can “have their shot” in the NHL, q.v. Kronwall, Bell, Bryzgalov.

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I was actually a little steamed about Kronwall as he was having a breakout season with the Marlies. Then I found out he was a UFA at the end of the season and we opted not to bring him back.

by koopa kid on Jan 28, 2010 4:09 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

but i dont think thats inherently contradictory. one of them flows down from management, the other comes up to it.
if you are going to set a tone for your organization, you can only control your own actions. if your pieces want to do their own thing, then baby set them free.

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 27, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you’re kidding yourself if you think Burke is waiving these guys out of some sort of favour or honor.

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by mf37 on Jan 27, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i dint say that at all. if anything, im assuming he’ll be spiteful and vengeful when deciding their futures.

im just saying when you take the position that you wont harrass someone to undo protections they have in their own contract, that stance dictates nothing when two of your people whine that they want to be somewhere where their given more icetime.

sounds like these two are simply taking their ball and going home in a waaahhmbulance.
burke should do what he can for them. i hear sibir novosibirsk needs some grit & leadership. im sure its nice there this time of year…

by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 29, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

My take on Brian Burke: he is full of hot air and likes to deflect attention away from his team and onto himself
given what the environment must be like for players in Toronto, I’m OK with it.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

But what part of airing out these media pieces about Exelby and Mayers deflects attention from the team? I don’t have a problem with them per se, but we’ve seen his words as ammunition to have the opposite effect.

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by bkblades on Jan 27, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

oh this part, I dunno how it fits in.
But in general, that seems to be how he operates, I think.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree this is how Burke handles most of his hockey business. And again, it’s not a big deal in itself. I feel he brings more attention than the situation warrants at times, which I guess shouldn’t be surprising at all. Guess I’m just having difficulty finding the use in publicly announcing this, unless Burke wants to prove there is no interest anywhere. Meh would probably best describe this in the end.

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by bkblades on Jan 27, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

meh is an accurate description I feel as well.
At least it lets us know that XLB and Mayers won’t be around next year, if anyone was worried about that.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Exelby and Mayers, they certainly aren’t overly skilled but atleast they are fun to watch and they work their asses off. Hopefully they get a chance with another team.

by Brad Ackerson on Jan 27, 2010 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

fun to watch?
the only time ive ever enjoyed watching either is when Mayers beat the tar out of franky soup cube last year

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 27, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Physical hockey = fun to watch

by Brad Ackerson on Jan 27, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

minor hit that takes player out of position and causes scoring chance for the other team = not fun to watch

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 27, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That applies sometimes to Mayers. Sometimes. Usually he just doesn’t have the right stuff to hit that mark.

Exelby is always terrible in every imaginable way.

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by puckurgently on Jan 27, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I've heard of Exelby and his hitting...

but that hasn’t happened all season long thus far. What has happened is his terrible defensive responsibilities.

by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 27, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Big hits (or the attempt to make them) often leads to terrible defense. You’re basically committing yourself to one small spot on the ice, while the puck still has the ability to go anywhere. You need to be very, very good and have responsible teammates to do it and actually make it work.

by koopa kid on Jan 28, 2010 4:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Just throwing it out there...

think Burke would consider moving Bozak, Schenn, or Kadri if the right deal came along? Cause I think he might.

by birky on Jan 27, 2010 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

depending on the player coming back, he probably would
but there are only a hand full of players that would make that happen

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 27, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Weird to think about, but I bet he’d have the hardest time getting rid of Bozak from a PR standpoint. He and his staff spent countless hours luring a college FA to come to T.O., only to trade him somewhere he might not have wanted to go immediately? That’s not good for the potential of further college signings.

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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 27, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Are Finger and Exelby really that bad

that they aren’t even good enough to be in-case of emergency fill in/backups?

by SPENCEMAN on Jan 27, 2010 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

Have you seen the Leafs defensive numbers?

Yes they’re apparently that bad. Exelby certainly is, and Finger has been having a rough year.

Mayers is also playing like crap.

The fact that they have let their agents try to drum up interest in them implies there hasn’t been any talks from other teams. If that’s the case that should tell the players something. Nobody is interested in your services enough to even contemplate asking for you.

If I was Exelby or Mayers and I was playing a very small role on a very bad team I’d be worried about my career too.

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jan 27, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

My guess is both players

get the Leafs a 5th or 6th round pick and cap relief so they can take on someone else in another bigger trade.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jan 27, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

But what im saying is

Are any other people who could be put in similar roles really going to be any better?

by SPENCEMAN on Jan 27, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

In the long run? yes.

I don’t see much point in trying to develop the 28 year old Exelby or 30 year old Finger when we could be working on the 23 year old Carl Gunnarsson, or 20 year old Luke Schenn. Not to mention we still have Jonas Frogren and the 21 year old Juraj Mikus and 23 year old Phil Oreskovic waiting on the farm for a promotion if necessary.

When Komisarek comes back the Leafs top 6 should look like Kaberle, Schenn, White, Beauchemin, Komisarek, and Gunnarsson… there won’t be ANY playing time for Finger or Exelby.

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by Steve Burtch on Jan 27, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather see

Oreskovic or Mikus play than Finger or Exelby… the whole youthful exuberance thing makes up for the mistakes they’ll inevitably make somehow. If they don’t develop into regular NHL’ers… fine… but at least work on giving them a shot.

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jan 27, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember Phil being much better during his cups of coffee with the Leafs than Exelby ever was and Mikus had a great camp

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 27, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I support this plan as well.

by JP Nikota on Jan 27, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Good points

I don’t want you to think I was arguing with you, I was legitimately asking.

by SPENCEMAN on Jan 27, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

When Finger’s on his game, he can be a third pairing guy, but that really hasn’t happened this year. Exelby isn’t good enough to be an emergency fill in for men’s league.

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by puckurgently on Jan 27, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on 7th rounder!!!1

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by stucky on Jan 27, 2010 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

somehow Mike Weaver is still in the NHL, playing defense for the St. Louis Blues. They could use some defensive depth.

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by Karina on Jan 27, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

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