Profiles in Awfulness - Jamal Mayers
I did the first of these for Andrew Raycroft two years ago and wondered whether I might do it again if only because if I started doing a couple of players it might take forever to sort through all of the dross in this city. I can't believe I haven't done one for Vesa Toskala but you cna bet that I will soon enough. Turns out it took until a couple of bums spoke out of turn for me to write another. Without further ado...
Leaf fans were rocked by the revelation that Jamal Mayers' agent had been authorised by Brian Burke to find a way out of town for his client. Sound sarcastic? Yeah, well, Ron Wilson was equally understanding. It's not like this is how things had to go for Mayers in Toronto. He was a local boy having gone to high school in Mississauga, coming off of a strong performance for Canada's silver medal winning team at the Worlds after having been on the team that won gold the year before, and he was going to bring some much needed veteran leadership to a team that was in the process of shedding vets as quickly as humanly possible.
I'm not actually surprised that Mayers has asked to be traded. The rumours were there at the last deadline and Greg Brady has mentioned before that Mayers' has repeatedly asked to be moved. The fact that he's gone public is a bit of a shock to me and certainly to Brian Burke:
His request was made professionally and quietly some time ago. I have no idea why or how it leaked.
More about how his trade was received at PPP Amalgamated Heavy Industries and Kitty Sitting HQ and just how bad Jamal Mayers has been this year after the jump.
Yes, the trade for a draft pick was a curious move by Cliff Fletcher since the Leafs were ostensibly trying to get as many lottery tickets as possible. The pick came via the Chad Kilger trade with Florida so maybe the Silver Fox felt some guilt and decided that the Leafs' penance was to pick up Chad Kilger: the ineffective version. That pick, for future cutting purposes, turned into James Livingston, a player that projects to be similar to Mayers. Obviously, like so much on this site, the reactions that Chemmy and I had were split when the trade was made:
Back to seriousness, Jamal Mayers played the third most penalty killing minutes for the Blues' 7th ranked PK last year. His +/- for 60 minutes of PK time was -5.69. To put the into perspective, for the Leafs he would have played the most penalty killing minutes by over half a minute a game and been the fourth best penalty killer by a small fraction. While age is a factor, his skill on the PK not only addresses one of the team's biggest needs but it also brings in a veteran presence that can help mould an effective PK unit as he did in St. Louis.
- PPP
I think it's a disease to try to look on the bright side of moves that the Leafs make.
*sounds of airplanes crashing*
- Chemmy
Turns out that the great Jamal Mayers experiment was a failure. Not only has he been terrible on the penalty kill but he also takes a tonne of undisciplined penalties. How many?
There is one interesting coincidence to the fact that both Mayers and Exelby are likely on their way out of town. Leaving aside whatever other flaws they have in their games, both are physical players – one might even say truculent players – but more than that, both are undisciplined players. Among Leafs forwards, no player takes as many penalties (relative to ice-time) as Mayers – who astoundingly takes nearly five times as many penalties as he draws.
That works out to 18 power plays that Jamal Mayers has gifted to the opposition. Based on the Leafs' spectacular penalty killing rate of 69.4% (giggle) that means that his inability to move his feet has cost the Leafs 6 goals. That doesn't even take into account the fact that he is the team's worst penalty killing forward or that he gets overrun at even strength. In fact, his -7 would be significantly worse if he didn't benefit from the best EV save percentage (.927) on the team. Don't forget that veteran leadership was supposed to be a last-ditch contribution of his to the team's development. Well, not only has this team been woefully short of leadership but, rather than working on improving his game, now he is looking for a way out.
Despite all of that, his agent Pat Brisson - God bless his lying soul - still believes that Jamal is a worthwhile asset:
"The teams we’re talking to are teams that have a chance to compete in the playoffs. Jamal’s a character player who brings speed, because he can definitely skate, and who can follow a system and bring some grit. He’s got character. Teams are curious to know where they’re going to be [in the standings] here in the next few weeks, but there’s some interest for Jammer at that level."
I'll have to respectfully disagree but the story of professional sports is that once you are in the club you will be given every opportunity to succeed. So, despite the fact that Jamal Mayers has been nothing but terrible for the Toronto Maple Leafs I'll wish him luck in his next endeavour. Just kidding. I hope he, like every player that shames the crest on the front of their jersey with lacksadaisical work, a lack of effort to improve their play, and attempts to play the victim, falls flat on his face. As Leaf fans we don't have much left but dammit we have hate.
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I’m going to be waiting eagerly in anticipation for the one on Toskalol (and so will everyone else)
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by Space Weed on Jan 29, 2010 12:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What a waste
When I first heard this trade, I shook my head. No-name filler NHL players can be found at any horse track, bus station, or Nassau Colliseum.
Jamal Mayers, the only emotion you have given me during your tenure in Toronto is this small satisfaction that you will soon be off the team.
Staggeringly insignificant, you were the Maple Leaf equivalent of sitting in a doctor’s waiting room for 3 hrs — something you aren’t really angry about but prefer not to have to endure all too often.
Enjoy your obscurity.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 29, 2010 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
seriously
dear jamal mayers, no team you have ever been on has won anything. ever.
Instead of bleating how you have “a lot more hockey to give” and “just want to contribute” at what point in your nearly 15-year NHL career do you acknowledged that you’re closer to being part of the problem than you are to being a solution?
by pevans on Jan 29, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
High school in Miss? Which one?
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by 1967ers on Jan 29, 2010 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mediocrity High.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 29, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
man, the leafs make me so sad.
and what’s worse is that the sens are doing really well.
this all wouldn’t be so bad if we still had our first rounders…
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by Duster on Jan 29, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, because then we could draft the next Aki Berg and everything would be just DANDY
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 29, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or Wade Belak!
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 29, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
some perspective on the kessel picks
The Leafs at one point employed 3 of the top 4 picks in the abysmal 1995 draft. And that doesn’t even count our own pick, Jeff Ware, who we punted away #15 overall on.
If this deal goes down like that year, we’re golden.
by pevans on Jan 29, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
For stemming the ulcer.
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by PPP on Jan 29, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
perspective is the scarecest resource on the planet.
the stacked drafts of the last 4 or 5 years have further clouded the already lazy hazy collective memory. one more time for the kids in the back: drafts are not a sure thing, even first rounders.
Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.
by daoust on Jan 29, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very true – that draft (1995) had at most 2 dozen players who ever amounted to more than marginal NHLers at best. Through all nine rounds (although that includes Danny Markov – who I always liked)
by Blue and White Expat on Jan 29, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right about perspective. But the last 5 years cloud judgment for a good reason.
Post-Lockout, Salary Cap, Rookies = cheap help.
The last 5 years are much different than the NHL in 1995.
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 29, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent post. Is he gone yet?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 29, 2010 12:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BRAVO
Christ, this season has been so depressing, but for some reason this post maed me laugh out loud at my desk repeatedly. Coworkers are peering over the cubicle walls.
Well done. What a shitshow.
by pevans on Jan 29, 2010 1:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
6 goals?
i would hasten to add that Mr. Mayers has only “cost” the Leafs 6 goals if you disregard the opportunity cost of the theoretical goals we could have had if he was stapled to the bench and replaced, by, oh, a coke machine with a hockey stick duct-taped to the sides, or a pack of wild dogs stitched together and stuffed into a Leafs jersey.
by pevans on Jan 29, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
6 goals is the most quantifiable stat but yeah, if you think of the goals that his bad penalty killing has caused or that his bad play has caused compared to an entry level player might have done then…
It makes me mad.
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by PPP on Jan 29, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we got Redden we’d have picked up a Coke machine with a hockey stick (no duct-tape, though)
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by Jo4nny on Jan 29, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
/slow clap
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
by stucky on Jan 29, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a pack of wild dogs stitched together and stuffed into a Leafs jersey.
It would be awfully truculent.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 29, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d have no qualms giving them a shot on any of our lines.
by Fleet Fox on Jan 29, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as we stuff raw ground beef in Vesa Toskala’s jock first, I have no problem with this.
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by jrwendelman on Jan 29, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jamal Mayers for a 3rd rounder made me sad.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 29, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i was with you at the time of the signing PPP. ‘hey, we basically turned chad kilger into jamal mayers, nice.’ i can’t believe how bad it’s turned out.
when your biggetst excitement leading into the offseason is how many players hopefully won’t return, you know things are pretty f-ing bad. how people can try to blame this season primarily on burke is beyond me. i can’t wait for him to rip apart this team.
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by daoust on Jan 29, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i can’t wait for him to rip apart this team.
I hope he uses a chainsaw.
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by article1 on Jan 29, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he uses a chainsawbig metal club with spikes all over it.
Boo hoo!
by sparrow13 on Jan 29, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Burke's Offseason =
Blindfold + Assistant GM Dave Nonis + Assistant GM Johnny Walker + Guns
Goodbye roster filler.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 29, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Mayers isn't out of the lineup yet
from @jonas640
Wallin, Rosehill, Exelby in tonight. Finger, Primeau, Mitchell out.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 29, 2010 1:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
showcase
come on Mayers have the greatest game of your life tonight!
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 29, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he better! XLB too! Heck the whole team too, for kicks!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 29, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Based on his performances for us, that’d be 1G, 0A, 7 PIMs, -1 in 7.30 of ice time and only 2 PP goals against?
I can’t wait.
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by article1 on Jan 29, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least half the players on this team need to get the hell out of my life as soon as inhumanly possible.
Of those players, he’s top 3 on my ‘I hope you die’ scale.
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by article1 on Jan 29, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
who are the other 2?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 29, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Toskala and Blake.
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by article1 on Jan 29, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah those guys. not as much disdain for blake other than he’s grossly overpaid
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 29, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve seen him screw up breaking in off the wing once too often. I’m not saying he isn’t versatile. He’s more than capable of weak wristers straight at the goalie; weak attempts wrap arounds; terrible passes; godawful turnovers.
Basically, I’m sick of watching him tear in on a break and knowing that he isn’t going to score.
He does close to nothing that contributes to our success.
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by article1 on Jan 29, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hating on blake is sooooooo last season.
There are so many better losers to hate on
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 29, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a traditionalist and he’s still terrible.
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by article1 on Jan 29, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m still hating on the skeleton of Ron Francis that JFJ dug up in 2004
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by Jo4nny on Jan 29, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3g, 7a, 10pts in 12 games
all that for a 4th round pick..
i’d take his 10 pts and the skeleton of a stanley cup champ/living legend over most of the stiffs they have now.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 29, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome
Thanks for joining. Tune in Monday for the Exelby version of this post.
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by PPP on Jan 29, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please don’t forget to mention the best thing he’s done in Toronto is wear an effing hat.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 30, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was going to come in, hit people, fight people, and elevate the accountability of every young Leaf.
Turns out he came in, took bad penalties, got some instigator penalties, and became a poison in the dressing room when his ice time was dished out in relation to his performance.
See ya!
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by Jo4nny on Jan 29, 2010 1:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If our GM had balls and brains
instead of just a big mouth he would cut these two losers a long time ago.
by penaltyshots on Jan 29, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
'course if he had all that,
we would still have our best defenceman and leading captain candidate in Pavel Kubina too.
by penaltyshots on Jan 29, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kubina was NEVER our best defenseman
and he would be a shitty captian
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 29, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’d have been a shitty captain – but he’d still be a better d-man than XLB
by Blue and White Expat on Jan 29, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the long run – I would want Komisarek over Kubina. Based on this season alone – I would prefer Kubina in the line-up over Komisarek this year – simply because of the injuries.
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 29, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Kubina was more durable than Komi has proven, but he was terrible in his own end
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 29, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was a turd nugget in his own end. In my comment about Kubina vs. Komisarek, I almost put “Kubina scored some clutch goals for us” but his lack of D disqualified that.
Kubina is -92 over his career
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 29, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yup, and I cant remember how many times Kubinas stick exploded in a million peices on one of those shots, or he put it right into the defender for a huge 2 on 1 or break away, hell last season he gave a break away goal TO Komi
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 29, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
Yeah…another great low point. Komi scoring the OT winner, on a blocked Kubina shot.
Cause and effect? Cause = Komi scores winner. Effect = Burke clears cap space for Komi, by trading Kubina?
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 29, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mayers and Exelby are in contract years and not playing. It makes sense they would want to play somewhere where they get ice-time and win to “up” their value for next years
contract.
Whether or not going public made any sense …. How did it get leaked anyways?
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 29, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brisson leaked it. It had been a rumour for over a year.
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by PPP on Jan 29, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wait, both these losers share the same agent?
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by Karina on Jan 29, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know who leaked Exelby’s request. I am guessing that dummy just thought that everyone was doing it so he piped in.
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by PPP on Jan 29, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this would not surprise me in the slightest.
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by Karina on Jan 29, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard about Mayers….so it was that doucher Brisson, eh?
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 29, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This Season
Was a shitty way to burn a year off the contract of people like Komisarek, Kaberle (maybe), Beauchemin, Kessel, Schenn and anyone else who figures to be a part of the team long-term.
On the upside – all this losing might help the aforementioned players gel for their remaining years together
Wendel Killer Joseph
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 29, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You know the implication in that sentiment is that those guys all had decent seasons and did not, in one way or another, contribute to many of the losses this team has suffered.
And I just don’t know if I agree with that.
by koopa kid on Jan 29, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nah…I didn’t mean to say anything like that. The whole team/organization is culpable from the top down. No one is absolved as far as I’m concerned. It’s a team sport – win as a team, lose as a team – that old saying.
No intent to go any deeper than that. It was just a shitty way for the Leafs, and those players mentioned, to burn a year off their contract.
Wendel Killer Joseph
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 29, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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