Maple Leafs 3 v. Canucks 5: ALL SEDINS ALL OF THE TIME!
by PPP on Jan 30, 2010 10:04 PM EST
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That's what this game was like after the first period. Those two guys are ridiculously good. Brian Burke should have kidnapped the Sedins last year. Getting punished one first rounder would have been chickenfeed compared to having those two on the team for the next five to seven years.
This is your post-game instant reaction thread. Use this to kvetch and talk each other off of your respective ledges.
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Wilson presser now
Yay!
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Wilson relayed same sentiments of the thread. Bad penalties that shouldn’t have been called, but ultimately, the Leafs team sucks. Too many giveaways, too passive, too slow. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
please tell me Berger said something and Wilson beat him with a hockey stick
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
I don’t know what to do with myself…honestly…the emo jokes are funny to me and all of you but this is just, fuck…I can’t handle losing to United and the Leafs shitting themselves in the same week.
Columbus: It's amazing how fast the world can go from bad to total shit storm.
Or the Leafs season: either one works
That was a tough loss to United. Very up and down.
by Screaming Will on Jan 30, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I’m honestly on the brink of teers because of this weeks events. I honestly have never felt this shell-shocked before.
Columbus: It's amazing how fast the world can go from bad to total shit storm.
Or the Leafs season: either one works
More than emotional. I remember Roenick’s goal and I didn’t feel worse than this. It’s just unreal…it’s like 100 level one losses (bill simmons) combined into one.
Columbus: It's amazing how fast the world can go from bad to total shit storm.
Or the Leafs season: either one works
I hear you. Roenick’s goal was awful for me because I hated him so much; at least Rooney plays for England when he’s not injured. But tonight was the first time I’ve ever watched the end of a hockey game in complete silence.
by Screaming Will on Jan 30, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Insanely impressive
Right now, I’d kill to get them
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Accurate representation of the CBC commentary
Sedin Henrik Daniel Burrows SedIn Sedin Sedin Sedin Sedin Sedin Sedin Henrik Sedin Sedin Sedin Daniel Daniel Daniel BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
so negative. i love the cbc. you offend my values. id like you to leave please.
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Jan 30, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
....
I'll roll up on you smooth and punch you in the jeans
by loser domi on Jan 30, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
CBC has good programming. Just bad commentators
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 30, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, you are hilaious
Puns, Innuendo and Bad Spelling, Yes We Got That
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
flag! sarcasm. this disagrees with my views. id like you to leave please.
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Jan 30, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
......
I'll roll up on you smooth and punch you in the jeans
by loser domi on Jan 30, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
are you serious?
what the hell is wrong with you
get a fucking clue man
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
whatever, fuck it, im out
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
for what? not blindly following the rhetoric?
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Jan 30, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
God
You are so obtuse. It’s not about blindly following the rhetoric. It’s about the way you argued your point, ignored counter arguments, repeated the same thing that had been addressed and rebutted, and now you’re just being a baby.
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no, unless everybody agrees with your or 4 other peoples points, they are wrong and not true “fans” im just saying what the others are too afraid of saying for fear of offending the rulers.
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Jan 30, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
BS
That’s not true but make yourself the victim if you want. For the record, check out the fanpost by Death_by_leafs and akihockey and MF37 put on a clinic for you on how to debate.
If it’s a problem for you, you’re always free to never come back.
But cut out the passive-agressive shit. That’s childish.
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and so it goes. either you are with us or against us. classic.
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Jan 30, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
haha
See, this is where I wonder once again whether you are even bothering to read the replies that people direct at you.
Read the fanpost. Akihockey AND MF37 both oppose the Kessel deal and they present their arguments like grown-ups. People debated them like adults.
However, you seem incapable of doing that. It’s not about with me or against me. You can tell yourself that and pout if that’s what you want but move on kid.
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hey PPP
maybe you could put in a link for him? he seems easily lost
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gee thanks. it all makes sense now.
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Jan 30, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Great
Glad to hear it.
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but next time, please link me to somewhere other than yourself. i know what you think.
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Jan 30, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
It wasn’t a link to something I wrote. It was a link to how intelligent people might debate. Of course, expecting you to be able to understand it was clearly too much.
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oh i understand you thinking that unless i proclaim allegiance to all things burke or have an unoriginal handle associated to one of his many idioms that i am not a true fan. or if i don’t copy and paste other people statistics or quotes from real journalists articles that I am not contributing to your community.
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Jan 30, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha
Yeah, exactly. That’s exactly what I have been saying. Get over yourself.
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i was just about to say the same to you. but i didn’t want to offend the police.
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Jan 30, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
(I don;t think he quite understands sarcasm unless he is using it)
I'll roll up on you smooth and punch you in the jeans
There’s a lot of things he doesn’t understand how to use.
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*There are
Whew, I must be tired.
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guys.
Loving the Leafs is like being in love with a drug-addled, gambling addicted prostitute with a heart of gold and a bunch of humanitarian awards from her youth. It’s hard. It hurts. But dammit! I just love them!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Ow.
Come on, guys. I’m a Leafs fan. I’m taking enough of a beating as it is.
by A Straw Man on Jan 30, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
No
Because they clog up my dashboard.
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No
That wasn’t a reply to the chainsaw comment. I actually want to do the same.
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You're missing...
The word ‘SCORES’ a few times.
So Handsome.
by Archimedies on Jan 30, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
not enough Sedins
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Yeah, we did good covering them for 45 minutes. That’s all a game is right?
Columbus: It's amazing how fast the world can go from bad to total shit storm.
Or the Leafs season: either one works
it’s one half of a soccer game
sorry
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
So we’re playing defense like City.
…fuck
Columbus: It's amazing how fast the world can go from bad to total shit storm.
Or the Leafs season: either one works
But without their offense!
sigh… FML
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
if we lose/draw to portsmouth tomorrow you guys better send somebody here to make sure i survive the day
Columbus: It's amazing how fast the world can go from bad to total shit storm.
Or the Leafs season: either one works
The next few weeks better get better with Portsmouth, Bolton and Hull coming up. It better get better than this.
by Screaming Will on Jan 30, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
If not we need to buy GodTill a plane ticket to Toronto so us three and jrwendelman can get drunk and mope all night.
Columbus: It's amazing how fast the world can go from bad to total shit storm.
Or the Leafs season: either one works
Or look at those bears that LD keeps posting. Those made me feel better.
I’m out.
by Screaming Will on Jan 30, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
indeed
the bear cubs are keeping me from raging right now
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BTW,
now the rest of you understand why City fans are referred to as “Bitters” ;)
(though I like Clawson from here in general, so feel bad for the poor bugger, but not so much his upstart nouveau riche Chelsea-lite brit team).
But mostly I just feel the blue and white pain here. Ouch.
Suicide Rates and Alcoholism have actually tripled tonight alone in Leafs Nation
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 30, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I’m seeing quadruple.
This has honestly been the worst sporting week of my life. And I feel bad moping around you awesome people.
Columbus: It's amazing how fast the world can go from bad to total shit storm.
Or the Leafs season: either one works
This is true. Thank you, babe.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
sadly our good looks arent getting us very far
:(
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Babe,
That game gave me a total appreciation for Shane O’Brien.
The announcers were all over the Sedins (with good reason) but Shane O’ was a menace in the shooting lanes.
He’s a keeper.
So Handsome.
by Archimedies on Jan 30, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't
he lovely? He’s really worked hard this season. Not flashy but so solid.
It's all hot bishes, naps, and dance parties
You know Alex Burrows was just on the cusp of my Team Canada Man-crush team.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
No, just too many competitors. I had Patrick Sharp (my all-time man crush) and James Sheppard. Next on my list though!
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
He’s a baller. You would be impressed by how he wears his suits. And yeah, Sheppard desperately needs a change in scenery.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Sigh
Thanks babe, I miss it too, but this team is just too damn depressing to write about sometimes.
So Handsome.
by Archimedies on Jan 30, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sheppard, a player the Leafs could trade for, yes?
Josh Harding, another favourite, is on the left with my boy James Sheppard on the far right. Both with excellent suits, and Sheppard already with the wherewithal to go with a jacket with very faint stripes.
…final evidence that James Sheppard simply gets it. This photo was taken close to his rookie season a few years ago. A rookie who understood the pink on pink combination with an active tie. Unconscionable. There’s more to Sheppard than meets the eye. For him to succeed, a team has to give him the proper opportunity. See what I mean about the potential? He’s aching to showcase the talent.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Excellent scouting report
Minnesota, is it?
So Handsome.
by Archimedies on Jan 30, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, sir
Stifled by the previous coaching regime and playing in the NHL before he was fully ready, Sheppard has struggled to find his place on the Minnesota Wild. Often toiling on the third or fourth line, the untapped offensive potential is most intriguing. He’s still only 21 years old, three years removed from his regrettably final season in junior where he scored 96 points and added 20 more in the playoffs. Most importantly, he could be that ever elusive power forward with excellent fashion sense. That kind of talent should be fully exposed to the masses. Plus, Sheppard’s from Halifax, Nova Scotia, one of my most favourite cities in the world.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
I'd complain more
But the Sedins do that to a lot of teams. Seriously, a commentator could call the game saying nothing but “Daniel” and “Henrik” with the occasional “Burrows” thrown in. (Having them in a hockey pool gets me to keep an eye on them a bit more.)
Just sucks that it happened to us is all.
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Yeah
It’s not a surprise. It’s just that they had been doing pretty well after 20 minutes.
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20 minutes. Luongo pulled. Raycroft in.
YOU’D THINK YOU’D BE ABLE TO FUCKING SCORE
Columbus: It's amazing how fast the world can go from bad to total shit storm.
Or the Leafs season: either one works
by Clawson on Jan 30, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It would help if they actually got shots on him
Seriously, all I’m doing when the Leafs are in the attack zone is “Shoot! Raycroft is in net! Shoot it!” lol…
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THIS
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 30, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Raycroft could’ve taken one of his naps in goal tonight and it’s possible the Leafs still wouldn’t have scored.
by Slava Duris #24 on Jan 30, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what is worse for me.
It’s not just the losing that hurts, it’s the fact that without some boneheaded defensive mistakes we could have won that game.
We aren’t getting buttfucked 24/7 in a lot of games, we play really well in parts but then just throw it away.
Exactly
It just makes it that more frustrating. They barely hit double digits in shots on Raycroft. All year long they fire from everywhere on the ice except tonight.
If Mayers takes 1 more hard stride he’d have prevented the GWG
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That bothered me the most. Mayers made it known he wants to be traded, but you wonder why nobody wants him when he makes such a laze back check on one of the most dangerous players in the NHL? Good thing you dress so spectacularly Mayers.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
It’s typical of the Leafs this year. He did something 90% of the way but clearly, he’s not good enough to do anything less than 100%.
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Scoring Chances
Tonight’s game, the way I saw it.
The Leafs were outchanced 17-11 in total by some team from out west. In periods two and three, they were outchanced 11-6. Hagman had one great chance a few minutes into the 3rd period that missed the net, otherwise the Leafs chances were about as borderline as could be.
by Slava Duris #24 on Jan 30, 2010 10:20 PM EST reply actions
Thanks!
I’ll add it to the recap.
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Cherry On Top
The Hurricanes passed the Leafs in the standings.
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Well it’s half 3 in the morning so i’m off now.
But on a ending note. I know some might scream at me for getting emo here a little bit but this was another bad loss in a long line of bad losses this season and Wilson and Burke have to do something drastic soon, if for nothing more than to just to give the players and the fanbase a chance to draw a line under what has been a horrible season so far.
I think that if you’re looking for drastic that you’ll hopefully see step one March 3rd and step 2 on July 1st when they don’t re-sign a bunch of players.
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I know I said I was gone but I'm back to chime in.
At the risk of also sounding emo…this is the most depressing Leafs season I can remember watching, by far.
I know the eventual winning seasons will be that much sweeter, but this season is the worst Leafs season I have ever seen.
And no amount of Bear photos will make it any better.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
Agree
This is a scarring season.
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If it weren't for
the kids, this season would’ve driven me to insanity.
by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 30, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
I’d love to know by what measure March 3 is a success for the Leafs and Burke.
I’m having a really tough time figuring out the market. So many teams are up against the cap and draft-picks and prospects, with their low salary cost certainty, have never been worth more.
I have a bad feeling the evening of March 3rd will have a lot of Leaf fans shaking their heads, hope I’m wrong.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
I have a bad feeling the evening of March 3rd will have a lot of Leaf fans shaking their heads, hope I’m wrong.
I think that it will be, like last year, a function of overblown expectations.
Here’s what I think is going to happen:
- Tomas Kaberle will NOT be traded
- the highest pick that will come to the Leafs will be a 2nd rounder.
As for how to classify it as a succes? I think if he can replicate what Cliff Fletcher did two years ago and he did last year [turn pending UFAs that won’t be re-signed into picks] then I think that’ll have to be seen as a success because I don’t see how he’ll be able to do much more.
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to me those two things are almost certainties.
that being said, Burke isn’t a trade deadline guy…so these expectations may need to be tempered even further.
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I think the problem is what MF37 noted: everything he’s looking for is much more valuable now.
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And everything we have to trade seems to be decreasing in value.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
I think it really is dependent on Kovalchuck. I rather doubt he gets traded, but if he does, I think it would be easier for the Leafs to move more bodies. If not, and I would be surprised if Kovy does leave Atlanta, Toronto won’t be getting much if anything for their very few trade assets.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
You think Kovalev will set the market? If he moves, other teams will react accordingly?
My concern is the playoff picture will be muddy and GMs will be hesitant to swing a big trade.
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Cuts Both Ways
Could give them an incentive to make a big move as well.
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Right. I’m under the mindset if a team is willing to pay for Kovy, then another team will inquire more seriously about other players. That doesn’t mean the Leafs will get more, but rather the interest will perk up. Something tells me that the Leafs aren’t getting any phone calls as is right now anyway.
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PPP I think you’re right on all three counts: expectations, Kaberle and the peak is one 2nd round pick.
The point I keep coming back to/wrestling with is how does this organization get better? There are so few trades, rosters might as well be frozen from October to March. The cap is going to remain flat (if not decrease); UFAs are expensive/inefficient and there really isn’t much in the system.
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Draft day trades?
Hope a GM is willing to overpay for Kaberle then?
Other than that, draft well, hit some gems in the late rounds (which I think we’ll start doing even more now).
And wait for 2012 (the season, not the movie which I finally saw today and it was awful)
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Even if the Leafs draft and hit some gems this summer, none of them will be cracking the Leaf line up until 2012 and none of them should see the line-up until 2013 or ’14.
Just in time for Kessel’s contract to expire.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
yeah, I’m with you on this, and I’m quite worried that Burke will feel the pressure and sign a Marleau to a monster contract this summer and albatross us for long after 2014
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I know everyone will point out that Marleau and Wilson buried the hatchet, but I’m hoping the atagonism in their past is enough to keep Marleau far, far away.
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And it doesn’t make logical sense for Marleau to sign here anywhere, since he can get comparable money elsewhere with a longer time-line for success.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Yeah
Marleau is the ultimate pipedream. He’s already done the long rebuild thing in SJ. Why sign on for another? Especially if he doesn’t win the Cup?
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There’s an amount of perfection that the Leafs will need to match, which I can’t fathom seeing. However, the Leafs have to scour the NCAA and SEL/KHL in my mind more than ever. They’re more advanced prospects, even if the ceiling isn’t as high and MLSE has the financial wherewithal to take advantage. Trading and UFA is an exhausted system, so that’s the only method I can the Leafs taking advantage over other teams.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
That approach brought us Rickard Wallin, how could it fail?
I kid.
I agree. I think the Leafs have to trawl NCAA and Europe. They should also roll the dice on cheap, veteran UFA contracts. I was really hoping the Leafs would go after Malhotra (although Eyebleaf was the big proponent on that one) and it turned out to be a golden signing by San Jose.
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welp
Yeah, they need to sign any NCAA kid that shows even a flash of potential.
Oh Malhotra. Would have been great.
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I hope 40% of this team is old grizzled vets on 1 year deals next year. If they have career years, they go at the deadline for more picks and prospects. If they suck, the get waived or transferred to Europe.
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50% of this team are on expiring contracts too…
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I’d rather that then them be signed to long term deals a la Jason Blake.
I’m not saying Blake’s contract is the worst ever, but I do wish it was up after this season.
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The band of guys looking for one year deals is small. The surprising thing is how many of them are signed cheaply and actually produce
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These old fogies might take one-year deals:
Recchi, Mark
Blake, Rob
Schneider, Mathieu
Modano, Mike "
Weight, Doug
Guerin, Bill "
Lang, Robert
Conroy, Craig
Foote, Adam
O’Donnell, Sean
May, Brad
Ward, Aaron
Maltby, Kirk "
Kozlov, Vyacheslav
Whitney, Ray "
Tkachuk, Keith "
Sydor, Darryl "
Hedberg, Johan
Walker, Scott "
Lehtinen, Jere
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About 75% of that list is either retiring or not effective enough to contribute. That’s the danger with signing very old players to one year deals. A team still has to correctly assume they will continue to be assets. Sometimes I still can’t believe the tremendous amount of luck that is involved with sports management.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
meh it’s a one- year deal, if they’re not effective who cares they’re gone at the end of the year.
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They still take up the mandated 50 pro roster spots. I rather they spend those spots on NCAA/Europe players than NHL veterans who most likely aren’t going to be better than Mayers and Exelby.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
For sure
The Leafs really need to borrow a page from the Blue Jays (yikes) and sign young-ish vet players to incentive laden contracts/minor league/training camp contracts at one year deals and see what they got. I just don’t see any other way for the Leafs to acquire the necessary depth from underneath to feed the big club.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Hmmm
That makes me feel both good and bad.
The truth is that the Leafs are going to be depending on luck and considering how things have gone this year that’s a scary thought.
One of Bozak, Hanson, Stalberg is going to have to develop perfectly while the other two become NHLers. After that…they need to pump as much as they can into player development and scouting. They’re going to need a lot of their recent picks to pan out to give them at least a source of cheap bottom of the roster players.
Also, find a Tomas Vokoun. That would help.
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Agreed that the Leafs have the odds stacked against them. They need a way deeper prospect pool to spread the risk.
Goaltending is huge. You get certainty between the pipes and a whole pile of problems will disappear.
The other enormous variable in sorting out the furture of this club is the labour situation, the current CBA expires in 2011.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Goaltending is huge. You get certainty between the pipes and a whole pile of problems will disappear.
If only one thing gets fixed this summer it has to be that.
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Yeah
It’s hard to know where the equipment issue ends and where the tough personal year begins.
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There’s a dearth of goaltending options out there too.
It should also be noted that goalie equipment gets sized to the player next year instead of just being standardized. Turco’s sv% is going to hit .800
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Yeah, I just heard that. That’s a big, big change. That could hurt Gustavsson a lot too.
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eh, from what I know it’s relative to height and arm length, not weight.
So being lanky is ok, but being a short fatty (i’m looking at you arturs irbe) sucks.
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GAME IN SIX
http://mapleleafs.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=802&id=58834
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Definitely not all six minutes
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I just looked at the schedule and realized I’ve only watched one leaf game in 2010.
Looking ahead, I don’t know that there’s a game on the sched I even want to see. I really hate the 2009-10 Leafs.
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I just can’t stop watching. But if I have something like soccer I don’t watch the game later.
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I have no choice but to watch…sometimes you just need to shut the game off, ya know?
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I honestly can’t think of a single game in my life that I have turned off.
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really? i’ve definitely turned off games with a minute or so left.
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Edmonton is a team that is stunningly similar to the Leafs. And they were pegged as one of the hot young dark horses to emerge from the West before this season as well.
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difference is they have picks this season and next.
although those defence contracts are awful.
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As of right now, I don’t have that much confidence with those picks. Essentially, they’re replacing their past first round picks, rather than supplementing them. A lot of their high picks have really plateaued and/or regressed. My fave Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson is at least a year, probably two years away from being ready.
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they rushed Gagner – “if patrick kane can make the jump, gagner can too”
MPS is good, Eberle will be good, but yes i agree with you on their prior picks.
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Even Eberle I have my doubts as to what kind of player he’s going to be in the NHL. He’ll never have to buy another drink again, but I don’t think Edmonton should be banking on him to be their superstar. Their drafting judgment has been sub-par and their development system has been questionable, at best. Hey, they really do sound like the Leafs! And I cry.
Well, again.
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Jonathan Willis and Derek Zona have done some good work on Eberle. Right now, he’s not even better than Gagner in junior.
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I’ve been briefly reading up on the Oilers drafting tendencies on BOA mainly (though I should check out Copper & Blue) due to their curious Russian/Eastern European selections and Eberle’s name has come up a few times as well. I think most Oilers bloggers and supporters understand why he was drafted outside the top 10 from what I gathered.
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don’t worry, I am still alive.
But not sober.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
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