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by Rock Outta SoCal on Jan 31, 2010 11:44 AM EST reply actions
PHANUEF AND GIGUERE BOTH LEAFS
MY BRAIN IS EXPLODING
For what?!?
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
deal was reported as Toskala+ for Giguere +
The Ducks are set to trade Jean-Sebastien Giguere, the franchise’s all-time winningest goalie, to the Toronto Maple Leafs and it’s expected they will receive goalie Vesa Toskala and another player in return, the Orange County Register has learned.
Giguere received a telephone call when he reached the Tampa Bay Lightning’s practice facility, where he learned of the potential move. The 32-year-old was in uniform but did not take the ice as players and coaches hugged him before he took the team bus back to the hotel.
Sources close to the team said Giguere needed to waive his no-trade clause as he headed back to pack his belongings, but that he was prepared to do so as he’ll be reunited with former Ducks general manager Brian Burke and longtime goalie coach Francois Allaire.
Giguere had lost his starting job to Jonas Hiller, who signed a four-year, $18-million contract extension Saturday, and Ducks GM Bob Murray had stepped up his efforts to trade the veteran to rid the club of his $7-million salary for next season. Toskala is making $4 million this season but is in the final year of his contract.
Giguere is the sole remaining player from the 2003 team that reached Game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals, where he won the Conn Smythe Trophy as the most valuable player of the postseason. But the easygoing goalie topped that by backstopping the Ducks to their first Cup victory in 2007 when they defeated the Ottawa Senators.
More details will come throughout the day.
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Sorry Leafs fans
If Dion Phaneuf is traded to your team I will hate you guys with a fiery passion. Nothing personal, well accept against Phaneuf, I hate that fucker.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 31, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions
What do you mean “if”?
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 31, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Toskala is said to be going to ANA
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IAN WHITE
Noooooooo
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
and yet
the worst defensive stats in the league.
Loving the Leafs is like being in love with a drug-addled, gambling addicted prostitute with a heart of gold and a bunch of humanitarian awards from her youth. It’s hard. It hurts. But dammit! I just love them!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
....
holy shit
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions
GOOD MORNING
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
ya
i need to get a coffee.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
from anaheim?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. Berger says its Toskala for Jiggy + a 1st. If so, that two robberies in one day for the Leafs.
by Brad Ackerson on Jan 31, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Blake.
Maybe the Ducks will take Blake along with Toskala ;)
WOW!
I just checked in at the home page to put up some college hoops stuff and saw the Phaneuf news and now this.
I may have to get Center Ice for after the Olympic break.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jan 31, 2010 12:17 PM EST reply actions
i like this trade as described
a lot more than i like the the phaneuf deal. i mean if Burke has upgraded the goaltending AND gotten a 1st in exchange for only the two most hated players on this team? awesome.
But phaneuf? seriously, who the fuck is going to play forward and score goals on this team?
Am trying to wait until i see how all the pennies drop. We can discuss later
OK WTF
What a crazy sunday afternoon.
I’m kind of not sure what to make of all this.
Phaneuf = expensive upgrade on White.
Aulie = future shut down guy to pair with Schenn
Sjorstrom = upgrade on Mayers
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
as for Giguere
If we can ditch Blake and Toskala and still pick up a 1st, I think Burke is officially off the hook for the Kessel trade even if Kessel’s body spontaneously explodes into flame at centre ice next game.
Which won’t happen… but you know.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
my thoughts exactly
i don’t know what to make of the Phaneuf deal AT ALL but if Burke has turned the two most hated Leafs this year into a goaltending upgrade AND a 1st, he’s my hero.
at this point it just says
Giguere for Toskala
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs don't need to score goals right now
They suck at both ends of the ice, but they suck FAR more on the defensive side.
Upgrading the Defensive side is far more important than the offensive side at this point in time. The offense is the last piece of the puzzle if you’re building from the goalie out.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Um, maybe I’m misunderstanding you (the two of us seem to have that issue).
The Leafs now will suck way more on the offensive side. They just traded away over about 80 points, including 35+ goals and their leading goal scorer.
I don’t know that Phaneuf is an upgrade on the defensive side of the puck and he was being outscored by Ian White.
As for building from the net out, the net remains the Leafs biggest question mark and their big trade was to acquire Kessel.
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well, the kids are going to get a shot….
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
I’m referring to the addition of Aulie as well in terms of the defensive upgrade, and I’m writing off this season. I think Phaneuf is an upgrade on White in terms of overall level of play. I would acknowledge his numbers are worse this season, but I think his pedigree is a bit better… and his career numbers are far superior.
As for the offense, I do acknowledge that improvement in that aspect will be necessary… but I think the D is more important overall… adding Giguere is a bigger piece to the D improvement also.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Gigurere is a nominal improvement. He’s been pretty brutal the past two years. Hillier has way better numbers behind the same defence.
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He's an improvement over Toskala though...
is he not?
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
A shooter-tutor would be an improvement over Toskala. But I don’t think it’s a significant upgrade in net. At $6M for one more season, it also curtails what the Leafs can do with their RFAs and on the UFA market.
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True
listen… I freely acknowledge that this is a lateral move in most respects.
I think the numbers coming back are hard to digest. Losing Blake, Mayers, Stajan, and Hagman opens forward spots up in the future. I would think they may keep Poni now… but maybe they deal him for picks… I dunno.
They have lots of spots up for grabs. They’re going to suck hard next year either way.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
If I'm being brutally honest
I think Phaneuf runs around too much, and he isn’t great in his own end. He’s basically the 2nd coming of Bryan McCabe.
I don’t like losing White and Hagman… but I do like the addition of Aulie.
I’m not huge on Giguere, but ditching Blake is a big plus overall to the tenor of the room.
I think the openings up front will be filled short term with Stalberg, Hanson and Bozak longer term… and Burke probably planned it that way for most of the year.
next year there will be some interesting battles up front, but this team is taking another step back before it goes forwards.
Kaberle hopefully moves before the draft… he might be our 1st rounder eventually.
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think you’ve hit on an interesting point – in tearing down this team to make it better, they may be awful again next year.
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The one plus about Phaneuf
is he’s still only 24 so there’s room for him to improve defensively. The offense is harder to teach I think.
As for Aulie, I think he’ll be a Chris Phillips type… which I can get behind.
I like the Giguere deal only because he’s a better influence on a young goalie than Toskala. He did well mentoring Hiller and he can show Gustavsson how to work with Allaire in a positive manner.
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
I’d also add that sometimes change for the sake of change is a good thing. I have no idea what goes on inside the room, but it seems to me this club really needed to be shaken up.
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sea change in the locker room
is a nice thing.
Adding a Conn Smythe and Cup winning goalie doesn’t hurt either. I think Giguere will he happier coming to TO and pretty much being handed the starters role. I still don’t like how he handled the loss of the role to Hiller in ANA, but he’s a passionate guy and he can steal a game or two. Much better example for Gustavsson than what he’s ahd.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
but Phaneuf isn't a "defensive" upgrade
he’s a physical offensive dman. He does very little to help in the goals against department from everything i’ve seen on the stats side plus my own two eyes.
I think the physical side is part of it though.
The Leafs lacked Sand Paper on the back end with Exelby doing little since he had almost no time on the ice. Schenn wasn’t hitting enough, and Komisarek is injured a lot.
White was somehow our most physical blue liner with regularity… but he’s too small to do that in a meaningful way (to anyone other than Erik Cole).
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
What about
Phaneuf with Schenn/Beauchemin at 5 on 5?
That’d be pretty awesome.
Ok I confess… I’m not a huge Phaneuf fan… I’m trying to sell myself on this deal.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Just got that. Was afraid to believe it until now.
Call me superstitious, but I'm pretty sure the Leafs do better when I'm drinking.
take away Blake AND Toskala
that’s almost as good as a 1st.
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Can I say I?
Getting Giggy with it.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Jan 31, 2010 1:00 PM EST reply actions
beat me to it
nah nah nah nah nananana hey!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Someone needs to score on this team. If Blake is gone, the Leafs dealt over 130 points in offense today and got about 27 in return.
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When’s the next part of the presser gonna start? 700 Club preempted the NBC game, I need somehing to watch……….
curious
Does Giguere resign with the Leafs? If so, how much?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:01 PM EST reply actions
BLAKE IS GOING TO ANAHEIM FOR GIGUERE?!
OH MY GOD I LOVE BRIAN BURKE BUT HE LEFT ME WITHOUT A SCAPEGOAT ON THIS TEAM
FUCK IT
GO LEAFS GO
Boo hoo!
link for presser plz?
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by Wrap Around Curl on Jan 31, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions
http://mapleleafs.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=616&id=58871
Alexei Yagudin - the best there ever was and the best there ever will be
Reposted: Leafs lose 6.25 million in cap space for next season
Leaving Toronto: Blake, Hagman – combined 7 mill cap hit next year
To Toronto: Phaneuf, Sjostrom, Gigeure – 13.25 mill cap hit next year
Hmm? I just did the math and came out to about 1.6 less on the cap if you include all the Leafs leaving
yeah, he fogot Mayers and White
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
but white would have to be. or some other d-man.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
No. One more year on that deal.
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Actually, that’s a good thing – Giguere is at least competant. Which is more than I can say for Toskala. We take the assumption that Gustavsson is “the future” – and if he can improve his game, he certainly has the stuff. If he’s not, though, then having someone who may not be the second coming of Georges Vezina, but at least isn’t the (now third) coming of Andrew Raycroft will be very helpful for an extra year.
by Blue and White Expat on Jan 31, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
nope, one more year on his deal
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
I am bleary-eyed and messy-haired, staggering around in boxer shorts and wiping the sleep out of my eyes…WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
insanity!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
today is insane, i must have been taking crazy pills
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions
Ha!
Burke scratches his head, and you can hear the cameras clicking away.
“You guys want a picture of me looking like an idiot.”
this is why I love him
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by Wrap Around Curl on Jan 31, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
the trade makes sense for anaheim? uhm… NO IT DOESN’T
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Hiller is their #1. Couldn’t afford to resign him with Giguere.
Trade makes sense.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
if hiller’s injured, toskala will be playing. not making sense…
i’d wish they would’ve get someone better than toskala to be the back up
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they needed hiller resigned before the season was up. Giguere would sitll be on the roster next year, leaving no cap room for Hiller.
Long term, it makes sense. they’re not worried about the next few games, but the next few years.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
He delivered that line like Alec Baldwin on 30 Rock would.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Jan 31, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What a day. The only way it would be better is if they announced Sharp, Bufyglien and Versteeg for Finger, Exelby, Wallin and Mitchell
So to sum up the day.
We get rid of useless parts in Toskala, Blake, Mayers. Lose some pretty good assets in Hagman and White. And lose a nonfactor in Stajan as he was going to be gone come the offseason anyways.
In return we get Phaneuf (who I personally love) and Giggy (who could still be a number 1 goalie).
Sounds good to me.
And Keith Aulie who could be a good defenseman for us one day. And Sjostrom who from what I’ve heard is an alright 2 way forward.
I’m extremely happy right now.
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 31, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
i am still on the fence about the Phaneuf trade
i am fuckin ecstatic about the Giggy trade
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Phaneuf trade was too costly
Tap it in, just tap it in, give it a little tappy, tap tap taparoo
And we ditched Mayers, Stajan, Toskala, and Blake to boot!
I’m a little sad about losing Hagman and White but this team needed to be shaken up. I’m effing happy with what Burke’s done.
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 31, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone...
…have info on the two other guys we got from Calgary? I don’t know anything about them.
Step 2 was trade for a PK
You guys still sort of lack a defensive system, Im not entirely sure RW is a good coach but you guys would know more than me about him. You have quite a Defense corp now so you might be able to step it up on raw talent.
No way.
Kessel Bozak Kulemin again I think
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 31, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
now
offense
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
We have a ridiculous amount of NHL calibre defencemen. Hopefully Burke can turn some of those assets into forwards.
Hasn’ that been the Leafs situation for nearly 3 years?
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I would think this means more moves at the deadline itself. I can’t imagine anything else happening today. How can you juggle that many balls in the air all at once?
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i think he lets things settle until at least after the olympics (unless a crazy offer comes along)
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
So we got rid of two players that everyone thought we couldn't trade for a pack of pucks
as well as Mayers who noone gives a shit about, and Stajan whos expiring? A streaky player in Hagman that wasn’t a part of our future plans, and White as the only valuable piece? The way I see it is we only traded White for Phaneuf and Giguere since the other players were all players that I wanted to get rid of. I don’t care if we have no offense, these trades are hard to pass up, bring the prospects up and start the youth movement.
agree completely
this is a good day.
I can’t believe that both Toskala and Blake have gone!!! And Mayers to boot.
Isn’t a logjam on D what was happening at the beginning of the season? And therefore something that was trying to be remedied? This just gets more puzzling to me the more I think about it
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As Burke was just saying on the presser
it’s creating more competition for jobs. If I’m Schenn, I’d be a little worried…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
HE's 20 YEARS OLD
Who the hell expects consistency in a 20 year old D man?
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I never said anything about my expectations.
He’s been slowly putting together some good games, and looking better than the beginning of the season.
long term I wouldn't
he’s in his 2nd year and he’s 20 years old… that isn’t time to panic.
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
i’m not saying he’ll get traded or not resigned. he may lose ice time. he could even get moved down to the AHL.
he and Gunnarsson are the only waiver exempt d-men on the roster right now. Gunnarsson’s been better than Schenn this season.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
in way fewer games.
He might implode if he plays longer… who knows.
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn´t be so sure Giggy is much of an Vesa-upgrade – he´s been pretty semi-brutal the last seasons.
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The fact that we got anything for Toskala is a plus
by WendelMadeMe on Jan 31, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
toskala has been totally and utterly brutal for 2 seasons, semi brutal wins
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
profit?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
they can bring him back if they want
and I think they might want to.
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
i think the fact that he wasn't included is telling
i think poni’s in the plans. which pleases me.
Or someone else wants him badly
which is possible.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
what i want to know is....
WHEN DO WE GET THE NHL 10 ROSTER UPDATE??!?
I've shook hands with a member of the 1967 Leafs, have you?
Do the right thing. Retire Dave Keon's number 14 so my dad will stop bitching.
OK, I think I’m going to do what I do for most breaking news stories (like big disasters, etc)
I’m going to get the gist of it. I’m going to know that something’s gone down, then I’m going to do something else so I don’t drive myself nuts with rumours. Then, I’m going to come back when the dust has settled and it’s all calmed down.
With this, I might not succeed, but I’ll try. I’ll be back
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by Wrap Around Curl on Jan 31, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
unless there's a 3rd shoe to drop
I’m guessing this means the kids are being handed the keys to the forward lines.
Looks like we’ll be seeing Stalberg, Bozak, Hanson and just about everyone from Tuesday onward
what do you mean by Options?
he might go to the AHL if they want to send him to the Marlies.
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Wilson says...
Wallin get’s more ice-time now. Yay.
He might actually start to produce
you never know.
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he's the ideal set up man for Kessel?
lol.
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Got my fingers crossed it’s the kick in the pants he needs, but not holding my breath.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 31, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Leaving because of the Schenn ugly talk.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Jan 31, 2010 1:24 PM EST reply actions
I don't care
if Schenn is ugly or not… I just want him to hit more people.
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
sorry, was it what i said?
All I’m thinking is he and Gunnarsson are the only waiver-exempt guys, and Gunnarsson has been more impressive this year. I still love Schenn, just thinking out loud how things will work out for him. Certainly not wishing…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
"Schenn" in Chinese Medicine is HEART.
Schenn’s been thrown into a mess of a situation this year, but if you think this is going to effect this kid in the long run your mistaken. Look wgere the tutlage is coming from now! be excited, Schenn, Aulie, Gunnerson will evole at their own rate, ups and downs. Schenn will captain this team one day.
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by Maniel Darois on Jan 31, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Craziness
Absolute craziness. I still can’t quite believe all this has gone down today.
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I was talking to my buddy from Detroit…he was fairly excited about the chance of seeing his two least favorite players in the NHL go at it (Lucic and Phaneuf). Let’s be honest besides the fans of these players they are both fairly disliked around the league. Both have the tendancy to play reckless and not always answer the bell, but if they do drop them i’m sure many around the league would be excited for it…I know I am
by Dangles-McDonnybrook on Jan 31, 2010 1:24 PM EST reply actions
wow. i just got up, turned on my computer, and the two trades were the headline at yahoo. my reaction: HOLY FUCK!
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You are from there right?
Those 3 upper canada wester teams are all from one city, what do you think of the sedins not getting run by phanuef anymore?
it will be nice not having to deal with him so often anymore, but now it might be a little harder for me to cheer for the leaf’s defense…..
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it’s also so sad that you guys lost most of your stars…..
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stars?
HA!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Im sad that they were considered “stars”
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
well, they were among the ones you guys liked best, right?
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Hagman and White, yes. But neither are stars. White is more like a folk hero than anything else.
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Jan 31, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
White and Hagman
were the only two people leaving Toronto that anyone is sad to see go.
A significant minority of the ppl here were in Stajan’s corner, too, but i’m not one of them.
Hagman and White, yes. Everyone else we basically considered them to be anywhere from “meh” to “DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR ASS ON THE WAY OUT!”
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Their list
According to a dude not from there.
Schenn
Monster
Kessel
Everyone else (not named stempniak) is expendable.
As i said in the other thread:
All I know is last time we had a big deal with the Flames we got Doug Gilmour…I’m just saying I’m optimistic about this.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
i like where your head’s at…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yes... and they got Gary Leeman
Does that mean we hope Ian White is this trade’s Gary Leeman?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
I like Ian White
and want to see him succeed in Calgary regardless.
I don't really dislike Gary Leeman either
I’m just saying in the balance of the deal.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
looking at the Flames roster, not sure who he’d play with…Sarich maybe?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
All in all I think Burke did a pretty good job today. As much of a fan I am of the Bruins, i’m also a fan of hockey in general, and Toronto did some good things today. Your offense took a hit, but Burke said he’s not done, so I see some help comming. Your goal situation was upgraded, and the stellar defense just got better for now, and in the future with Aulie. I see Toronto playing a lot of close games for the rest of the year.
by Dangles-McDonnybrook on Jan 31, 2010 1:29 PM EST reply actions
gold
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
rec’d
"the usefulness of a cup, is in it's emptiness"
by Maniel Darois on Jan 31, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Last week in philly we heard rumors af phanuef and jokinen for carle and briere, but then we heard yhet didnt want jokinen and didn’t want to give up carle. So maybe we will see briere for Phanuef.
No to Briere.
He’s damaged goods as far as he’s concerned.
by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 31, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one who’s thinking:
Phaneuf = Rob Blake
Schenn = Adam Foote
in a year or two ?
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dunno about the Blake comparable
but i’ve been seeing foote/schenn career similarities since he first took the ice.
If Luke Schenn turns into Adam Foote I am more than satisfied.
i'm ok with it
since those two helped the Avs win a cup…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
stalbeg and kadri!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Giggy!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Conn Smythe and Cup winning Giggy!
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
WOOO!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Bozak
to Kadri’s Forsberg…?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
A thought.
We essentially lost $2M for this year, and gained an additional two mil in salary for next year… Not sure I’m crazy about that.
Worth it, IMHO
to get rid of useless players like Toskala, Blake (ZOMG!), and Mayers.
by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 31, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Toskala was as good as gone anyway. Blake, although he was a bit of a waste of space for his cost, was going to cost us $2M less on the cap for next year. Mayers, no doubt, needed to go.
According to the Star, Mayers and Sjostrom were added at the very end. Burke credited Sutter with the idea.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Jan 31, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
You traded this year for next year
Most of the players you moved you either wanted gone or weren’t bringing back next year anyway. Giguere is a money sink but you don’t have any backups or leverage if monster walks.
True
But from what im hearing you gave up about 6 players for 2. What are their replacements going to cost?
most of the spots will be filled with kids
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I thought blake’s contract went into 2011-2012?
giguere’s is up after 2010-11 season isn’t it?
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Blake has 2 more years. We signed him for 5 and this season is only his third.
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Jan 31, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Mirtle just tweeted this link; cap ramifications for both teams…
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/globe-on-hockey/the-cap-hit/article1450920/
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Blake is listed as under contract through 2011-2012 according to nhlnumbers.com
by Grabovski's better than you think on Jan 31, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
After Marleau and Kovalchuk, the market looks pretty thin for top level forwards. Chances are Burke makes some minor moves this off season, and does the big stuff (if needed) in 2011.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Borque!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Phaneuf, Komisarek and Kessel are all signed through 2013-14. They are also the 1st, 3rd and 4th highest cap hit players on the roster currently, with Giguere being 2nd highest.
Can Burke even afford to resign Kaberle now?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:36 PM EST reply actions
good thing he has over a year to worry about that
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
does he want to wait a year? Burke can trade him where ever he wants in the off season…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
exactly!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
listening to the Buke presser again
love the underhanded jabs he takes at the media. his “maybe we’re not explaining it well” comment kills me…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:43 PM EST reply actions
Burke rules
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I havent been this happy in a very long time
This was a great morning. Well miss you White, Hagman (but more so your wife), and Stajan sorta. Good riddance to the rest of you!!!!
AND i get to see this new Leafs team come next friday in Jersey!!! 2 rows from the ice none the less!!!!
she’s been Avery’d…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
meh, I don’t care, i’ve been in love with her since popular mechanics for kids.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
definitely easy on the eyes, no argument there…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
This is a very, very stark contrast
to the depressing mood that the GDTs have taken on lately.
Mr. Burke, you are awesome.
Everyone knows about Giggy, and Dion but Aulie should be a very good defenseman (Maybe our Tyler Myers gag*) and Sjostrom was a former 1st round pick who turned into a very good, reliable defensive player (pk specialist) who was part of a tandem who lead the nhl in PK percentage when he was with the Rangers and has some decent offensive upside (great in shootouts)
Sjostrom hada great nickname in NY, “Freddy Shoestrings”
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
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