Toronto Maple Leafs trade for Dion Phaneuf, Fredrik Sjostrom, and Keith Aulie for Matt Stajan, Jamal Mayers, Ian White, and Niklas Hagman
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Brian Burke has finally put some muster behind his bluster with a deal that can only be termed a blockbuster as well as a hell of way to wake up on a Sunday morning. The Toronto Maple Leafs will get Dion Phaneuf, Fredrik Sjostrom, and Keith Aulie and will be sending disgruntled forward Jamal Mayers, Niklas Hagman, pending unrestricted free agent Matt Stajan, and pending restricted free agent Ian White.
I actually don't know how to react to this deal. I've spent the past four years reading about Dion Phaneuf on Edmonton Oilers blogs (that coverage really hasn't changed) so I'm cautiously optimistic that his game, which Brian Burke described as "playing our type of hockey, he likes it crude, he likes it black and blue", can bed in with the Leafs' defence. This is a massive investment in a player that was once seen as a lock for Team Canada but has fallen so far that he is no longer a big part of the Calgary Flames' future. He's locked in for another four years at $6.5M. James Mirtle has a look at the cap implications for the Globe.
Matt from the Battle of Alberta wrote this in November:
By definition, you can only have one #1 defenseman. You can only have one featured shooting threat on the PP. Most importantly, you can't pay elite wages for depth.
To a lesser extent, this is the situation in Calgary on D. When Darryl Sutter signed Jay Bouwmeester on June 30 to a five-year, $33.4M deal with a NTC, he made the decision that JB would be heading up the blueline for the next 5 years. He can't afford to pay Dion Phaneuf to play the "Jay Bouwmeester" role, because he now has Jay Bouwmeester filling that role.
Heading over to Behind the Net gives us a better picture of what Phaneuf was doing this year. He was facing the toughest competition among the defencemen, doing pretty well in terms of Corsi, all while playing with the weakest teammates.
After a season of debating whether Matt Stajan is a top two centre going forward and how much it will take to re-sign Ian White Brian Burke has rendered all of that speculation moot. In his press conference Burke mentioned that he never opened negotiations with Ian White's representation which to me indicates that he never thought he was part of the future going forward. He also manages to get rid of one malcontent in the dressing room. And it's perfect timing that just a few days after Niklas Hagman returned to the land of the living and many of us speculated that he could be a nice trade asset that he is on his way out of town. The Calgary Flames pick up just over $4M in cap space for next year which gives Darrly Sutter some wiggle room after his terrible cap mismanagement cost the team the division crown last year.
Who are the other two guys coming to Toronto?
The scouting report on him is as follows:
| Assets |
Has a terrific combination of speed and defensive instincts. Is willing to take a hit in order to make a play. Kills penalties very well and can line up on either side of center. |
| Flaws |
Doesn't use his 6-1, 218-pound frame to his advantage nearly enough. Misses a ton of scoring chances due to questionable hands. |
| Career Potential |
Defensive winger. |
Keith Aulie is a defensive prospect that will head to the Toronto Marlies. He was on the 2009 Canadian team that won gold at the World Juniors. Here's his Hockey's Future profile which has him as the third ranked prospect in the Flames' system which itself is ranked 25th. He's supposed to be another monster defensive defenceman and he'll get plenty of time to develop with the Marlies.
But this deal begins and ends with Dion Phaneuf. Both Wilson and Burke have a long history with Phaneuf so they are well aware of what he brings to the table. If he can find a partner in Toronto (Tomas Kaberle) that can help shield his defensive deficiencies then he can work on eliminating them from his game. Ron Wilson said he'd be killing penalties as well as being on the top power play unit so he'll be asked to make a huge difference on two atrocious special team units.
The Leafs have a tonne of money now locked up long-term on the blueline. So far this year that has not been a good investment as Beauchemin and Komisarek have struggled. However, the second trade to bring in Giguere should help settle the goaltending down. Sjostrom is supposed to be a good penalty killer so that will help address another team weakness.
Reading the reaction from my fellow SBNers on e-mail I definitely have a lot of reservations on this deal. This deal, like the Kessel deal, hinges on Brian Burke's ability to have properly assessed his team. He has decided that White and Stajan are no longer part of the future and brought in an asset that he thinks will improve this team both right now and in the future. All we can do is hope that Burke's evaluation over the past 55 games is better than his evaluation of this team over his first eight months.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 31, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
The deal swings on what Phaneuf becomes in the future. Right now, he’s capable, but probably not worth his cap hit. If he turns into the Norris candidate many envision, you guys probably win this trade.
Let’s hope, take care of White for us, we expect him in good condition come say… July 1st.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
not coming back dude
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
that's it exactly
time will tell whether Burke has turned a collection of spare parts into Norris winner, or just yet another unwieldy contract.
I bet White will flourish in Calgary. He always seemed like a Western boy at heart. You will be happy together.
Bingo
I’m cautiously optimistic because I’d rather not think of the negatives. But this is huge risk-reward.
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I’ll miss Hagman, but he was too streaky. I’ve always like Fredik Sjostrom (his rating in NHL 05 after 1 season goes insane)
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
my jersey purchasing record
is looking decidedly cursed:
- Sundin jersey in 07, Sundin a Canuck in 08
- Tucker jersey in 05, buyout in 08
- Hagman jersey in 08, trade in 2010…
i’m going to have to buy a Finger jersey and test this theory out…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
this is why i stick to classics
i still havnt worn my gartner yet
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of jersey’s, I saw a picture of two friends, one was wearing a Leafs Wellwood jersey and the other was wearing a SNES Eaves jersey.
We require, as a team, proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence.
by Belligerent Burkie on Jan 31, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Phaneuf is a good player, worth about 5 million as per his play at the moment but i’m worried about our D now. Unless Burke is planning to trade Kaberle, Beauh or Finger, our D is too cap heavy. And now we wont be scoring much. I’m not sure about this deal.
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Yeah a lot of money being spent on the back end, especially with Giguere now making $7M
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
if it keeps pucks out of the net, than its a good thing
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
It’s funny how we were all speculating Giguere to come here, and lo and behold. AND we got rid of Toskala and Blake AT THE SAME TIME!
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
on that topic, how many years has Giguere left on his deal, 1 or 2?
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next year is his last
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
dollars don't matter
cap hit does. his cap hit is only $6M….
ok, so that is a lot of money.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Finger wont be around on the main roster much longer i dont think, and i wouldnt be surprised at all if he trades kaberle before next season
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
I expect Kaberle gone too, no way we can afford to spend that much on the d-corps
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
i bet burke wants to trade kaberle for top 6 forward help, hell make that top 3 forward help
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I signed up just to let you know that Jermaine Franklin, in a scrum, asked “where do you go from here, Dion?”
Dion: “I go to Toronto.”
Sounds like Dion went to Ron Wilson’s school of dealing with the press!
hahahaa
Thanks for that.
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Wow
If for nothing else, I’m looking forward to his interviews now!
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Anyone else have trouble picturing Stajan in a Flames jersey? Not that I’m sad to see him go, I just think it’ll look weird…
Call me superstitious, but I'm pretty sure the Leafs do better when I'm drinking.
It’ll be wierd at first, sorta like Sundin in a Canucks jersey or Gary Roberts in anything but a Leafs Jersey
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Kinda funny though that his leafness was debated for years but now that hes gone, i hope he has a good career but not as a second centre threat
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MAAAAT STAAAAJAAAAN!
I’ll miss ya!
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
one last time
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I will miss
making jokes about bedroom eyes and soccer balls.
I'll roll up on you smooth and punch you in the jeans
but think of all the sloppy seconds jokes we get to make!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re having trouble deailng with that image, try to get your head around Stajan kicking red socks.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
This is one heck of a trade.
Phaneuf, although overrated, is still a pretty good defenseman. Also, Keith Aulie looks like a decent D prospect, and this team needs plenty of those.
What surprises me most is how the hell we traded Toskala AND Blake for 1.5 years of Giguere? Sure he has that massive contract, but at least he’s somewhat useful.
I’m just glad we got rid of some bad contracts and not picks. I would have been pissed if Burke traded away more picks. Sad to see Ian “Mustachulence” White leave though. He will be missed.
We did do Anaheim a massive favour, too bad we couldn’t sqeeze a pick out of them, but hey i’ll tak what I can get
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
TRUE!
But Toskalol was done after this season. Blake, on the other hand, would have been here until he was a senile old man.
Like I said before, No trade backsies!
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
So, he’d have been there until 2004?
by J. Michael Neal on Jan 31, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Sabre fan here...
Wow. Holy cow. Never saw this happening. Some questions for you:
- How’d you fit Phaneuf and Giguere under the cap?
- I liked Hagman a lot. Did you all as well? I was kind of hoping Buffalo would’ve made a run at him.
- Blake never fit in there, did he?
- Am I correct in assuming Ian White was/is considered underrated?
- Is this a vote of no confidence in Gustaffson?
- And lastly, do you guys feel this trade helps you get into the playoffs?
Thanks…
Playoffs are a pipe dream.
No, it’s a vote of confidence in trying to build the best support system for Gustavsson. Burke said he’s still the goalie of the future
Ian White is underrated for sure. Check the fanposts for two great ones about him.
No, Blake’s game never meshed with anyone on the Leafs other than Dominic Moore
Loved Hagman. Great professional, good player.
No idea. Burke has a lot of wheeling and dealing to do before next year.
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Can’t he be traded in the summer (if we don’t make the Playoff!!!!!1111)
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
yup
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
He can be traded in the off-season. I think there’s a window that runs from July 1 to mid-August when his NTC is void.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
if Burke plans to go that route, I’d hope he starts before the draft, to see if he can convince Kabby to waive his NTC and remain a modicum of control over his destination…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
You know how Burke feels about NTCs (but it’s apparently ok for antoher GM to ask a guy like Giguere to waive ’em)
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
What Burke believes has no impact on what any other does.
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You could be right, my understanding is it’s a six week window that ends mid-august. Based on that I was presuming it opened July 1.
Would be way better if it opens on draft day as that’s when a lot of deals go down.
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Wilson also said he’s spoken with Giguere already about his mentoring of Gustavsson…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
- Hagman, Blake, Toskala all making north of $3 Million (Stajan and Mayers making around $1-2 million)
- Hagman was good but streaky
- After D. Moore left no, he hasn’t
- Yeah White’s very underrated sad to see him go
- Gustavsson is good for 20-40 games, JSG should be able to pick up major of starts.
- Playoffs, no. Out of a lottery spot, lets hope so.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
- How’d you fit Phaneuf and Giguere under the cap?
Giguere only has to fit for one more season, moving Blake’s $4M cap hit through 2012 certainly helps here.
- I liked Hagman a lot. Did you all as well?
I can’t speak for Leafs fans, but I think he was a popular player. Only downside was his really streaky scoring – he’d completely disappear for really long stretches.
- Blake never fit in there, did he?
40 goals his last year as an Islander. Only 50 goals in 216 games as a Leaf.
- Am I correct in assuming Ian White was/is considered underrated?
Depends on who you ask. The guy was beloved by many and held up as a future Leaf captain by some. His numbers certainly indicate he may be up for one helluva raise next year.
- Is this a vote of no confidence in Gustaffson?
I have no idea. I think it’s a bit of a safety valve, bit of a salary dump and a bit of a “roll the dice” and hope to get luck.
- And lastly, do you guys feel this trade helps you get into the playoffs?
The Leafs could deal this mess of a squad for the Western Conference all-stars and they still wouldn’t make the playoffs.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Wow…original there 6rick6. Never heard that before. I came here in peace. That said, I surely won’t turn the other cheek….
i think he was cracking a joke on the leafs not making the playoffs
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
He was crying because we don’t know what th eplayoffs are like anymore.
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-lots of cap space next year with expiring contracts/ removed trash in trades
-Hagman was liked although he could be streaky
-blake was a whipping boy for not producing points/ showed effort though
-Ian white was our best d man this year, we will miss him and yes he was very underrated
-Giggy will hopefully mentor the monster
-hopefully next year.
Was kind of bummed about going to game next Saturday, the way Ottawa has been winning and the way Toronto has been losing lately – but now I can’t wait to see Phaneuf in a Leafs uniform. Oh and now I don’t have to worry about ToskaLOL getting the start.
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by Another Good Kingston Boy on Jan 31, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions
I’m bummed I won’t get to see White when I go to the March 13th game against Edmonton….. This means I’m probably going to get to see more of the young guys and likely Gustavsson in net as well… So I guess it evens out.
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yeah, I was looking forward to seeing White too. I was actually thinking about getting a White jersey at the game, but now I’m thinking Phaneuf.
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by Another Good Kingston Boy on Jan 31, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
I would fricken hope so. Who knows though, he’s another guy pining to get out of town. Maybe he get’s petty?
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Better yet
Phaneuf knocks XLB the fuck out and takes back his No.3
by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 31, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
now the real question
what will giggys mask look like?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions
he could have a big pink dildo on it and i could care less as long as he stops the puck.
by 6rick6 on Jan 31, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
More questions.
1. I’m really interested to see how this Aulie guy comes along.
2. Will the players traded to the big club play on Tuesday?
3. What the hell are our lines going to look like?
1- me too
2- probably the calgary ones, i doubt giggy gets the start though
3- fire up the blender!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
up is down, left is right
dogs and cats living in harmony, mass hysteria…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
yay
somebody got it!
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
mmm hysteria
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
re: 2
Burke said if they pass their physicals, they’ll play Tue.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
stolen:
Kulemin/Bozak/Kessel
Poni/Mitchell/Stempniak
Sjostrom/Primeau/Hanson
Rosehill/Wallin/Orr
Kaberle/Phaneuf
Beauchemin/Schenn
Gunnarson/Finger
Giggy/Gustavsson
The big plus to this is that Burke doesn’t have to wait- the rest of the season, forward-wise, belongs to Bozak, Rosehill, Hanson, etc. Smart move by Burke.
by westcoasthabs on Jan 31, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Although I love the trade i still am feeling sentimental over losing our Whitey. I loved the little guy.
He’s been awfully good for you guys this year. That’s the one part of the Phaneuf trade that sucks, but you’re loaded on D now as it is.
by westcoasthabs on Jan 31, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Phaneuf is better than White. White tries hard, and he’s become more endearing, but I still think Phaneuf can play just as well as him in the long run…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Its the old ‘higher ceiling’ argument. And the fact is, Phaneuf at his best is Norris worthy.
by westcoasthabs on Jan 31, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
White has more points than Phaneuf this season and is 1/8th Phaneuf’s cap hit.
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the key being
“this season”
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Again, I don’t think Phaneuf is elite nor worthy of his cap hit.
I like the trade, but I really have to pause when I read “Norris” and Phaneuf in the same sentence.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
yea i dont think he is norris level either, he is in the class just below
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
oddly enough
seson to season, “Norris class” is less than 1% of all NHL d men. So, a step below is still pretty damn good.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
McCabe was nominated too in 2005 or ’06.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
haha
Point/Counterpoint.
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nope:
05-06:
lidstrom, nieds, zubov
06-07:
lidstrom, nieds, pronger
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
point to ohshrit…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
He got votes. He never finished top 3.
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i’m sure you can rattle off a host of names of questionable players who “got votes” every year.
Phaneuf is having a bad season. Do we have to start tearing him apart already? He hasn’t even pulled on a Leafs uni…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Again, I’m sorry that you see a counter-point as “tearing down.”
There’s a reason Phaneuf was available for spare parts. His game has regressed and his cap hit is out of line with his performance.
I’m happy with the trade, but we didn’t get an elite d-man.
I also think the McCabe comparison is fair. The guy put up HUGE offensive numbers over several seasons and was way better on one-side of the puck than the other.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
I think that at this point in time it’s fair to compare them, however, it took McCabe longer to find his game. How old was he when we traded him?
32 i think
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think we can both agree that time will tell. Maybe he will succeed in Toronto, let’s give this some time
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Again, I like the deal I just think we fans have a bad habit of setting the bar really high and then being disappointed with actual performance.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Touche good sir
However, there are the ones who are negative right from the get go. (Not saying that is you)
It balances itself out
Fairweather fans can go to hell
he also made team canada in 06….
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, McCabe finished 4th in Norris voting in 2003.
He made up for it by winning the Vezina in his little-known year playing for the Sabres.
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by mf37 on Jan 31, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Phaneuf’s upside is obviously much higher than White’s but I’m doubtful he’s playing equal to him right now…. That being said, I think I’m mostly just sad to see Whitey go. He was my favourite Leaf this season.
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White has had his share of atrocious games.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
It seems that’s just happened lately. He was really good most of the year, then the last few weeks he’s really struggled. In my opinion anyway.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Why do you think I haven’t updated my blog (besides being pretty busy)… I lost a lot of my admiration for him because he’s cost us a lot of goals.
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
funny how a lot of folks (myself included) couldn’t wait to see White get traded out of town at the beginning of the 08-09 season…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but that D of yours, especially with Komi back, will just be death for opponents. Kabby will probably turn it up too-he’s got a clear cut role as off. d-man now.
by westcoasthabs on Jan 31, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Just realized, Primeau and MItchell are the only ontairo boys left on the squad…well van ryn but he doesn’t count.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
Cherry's gonna have a shit-attack
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
his new favorite Leaf is Dion Phaneuf. Cherry loves that guy
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
“Now kids let me show you something….” plays Dion Phaneuf clip
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
ahh damnit, ‘plays Dion Phaneuf clip’
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
all we need now is to delete the “Phaneuf trips over Ruutu’s stick” from the internet and global consciousness…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’m still trying to work it all out. If we did save money, I’m sorry for call you stupid Mr. Burke
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
This year the team saves a little bit actually.
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Have you ever heard Phaneuf speak?
I don’t think the C goes anywhere near his chest in a crazed media market like Toronto.
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no
i didn’t like seeing the A on him in calgary.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Love this trade
Phaneuf has been underachieving for the past couple seasons but he is still only 24, lots of time for him to mature. Aulie sounds like he could become a solid top 4 defense as well.
Our defense could look pretty good in a few years if Phaneuf, Schenn, Gunnarsson and Aulie reach their potential.
Gonna miss White but any sadness I have will go away the first time Phaneuf flattens a smurf.
I think that Aulie has the potential to be the sleeper part of this deal. If he shapes up, we’ve made off like bandits.
big time, alot of people compare him ot tyler myers, a 6`6 d man who can skate
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Except
Pierre McGuire wouldn’t suck Aulie’s shaft…. maybe that’s a good thing actually.
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
We are all overlooking a major component of this deal
With Phaneuf on the team, that means that Cuthbert will be at a few more games.
by SPENCEMAN on Jan 31, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
JACKPOT!
Haha Ottawa we just one upped your ass’s AGAIN!
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
with all deference to Ottawa,
i think we’re all winners.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 31, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
oh thats right i forgot bout dat, but i might take cuthbert over carrie underwood
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
I thought this was April Fool's...
In the end, the ‘A’ asset we traded was Ian White. The ‘A’ asset we got back was Dion Phaneuf.
The ‘B’ asset we traded was Nik Hagman. The ‘B’ asset we got back was JS Giguere; in a more important position and a position needed more by Toronto than a scoring winger.
And then for a bunch of spare parts (Blake, Mayers, etc) we end up with a young defensive prospect.
I think we win on all counts.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 31, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
seriously Cybulski said it perfectly:
“if fans had a choice between 2 1st rounders, and 2nd or Kessel and Phaneuf…I’d say the proven ones.”
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
by ohshrit on Jan 31, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
im loving that Jiggy trade a lot guys
the perfect guy to mentor Gus
Allright kids, the word of the day is "Truculence"
XLB can keep #3..
in the Marlies.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Would you consider Brian Burke the hockey gm verison of the owner of the nfl's washingto redskins dan snyder
it seems that burke loves all the big guys but doesnt like to build through the draft like that guy does
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions
he did draft the sedins, bobby ryan, nazem kadri
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
heh
Good comparison. It could turn out that way for sure.
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me thinks
Brian Burke and Colangelo have been having too many lunches together, getting drunk, and daring each other into trades.
A rich and powerful man’s pissing contest?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Like the two brothers in Coming to America? haha
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Sharks fan here
And wow, when Burke wants to shake things up, he sure knows how to do it.
Maybe you guys have seen this already, but here Earl Sleek breaks down Giguere’s SV% period by period a couple of days ago. Basically, he’s great the first two periods, and then either he or the defense collapses in the third period and OT.
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Good thing our defense should probably be un-collapsible now (thought that’s what we thought at the start of the season…)
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Personally, I don’t trust Phaneuf, but my team was on the good end of that 9-1 game against the Flames, and that’s an amazingly small sample size. He’s generally pretty good against the Sharks, but sometimes makes these brain fart plays where he takes himself out of a play to make an ill-timed big hit. He just needs to learn to stop doing that, and he should be good.
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sometimes makes these brain fart plays where he takes himself out of a play to make an ill-timed big hit. He just needs to learn to stop doing that, and he should be good.
So basically he’s XLB with actual talent? Fine by me.
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i have to believe
that Kaberle sees the writing on the wall, picks 10 teams he wants to go to, and waives his NTC.
With this many top-flight D and with no chance of us getting into the Playoffs!!!1 there’s no way Kaberle sticks around next year? Does he?
If he doesn’t waive his NTC, 2nd round pick and a prospect.
If he does, first and a prospect?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:14 PM EST reply actions
get a front fine forward
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
seems the more likely scenario
i get the sense that Burke doesn’t really care all that much about a 1st round pick this draft…
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
but
unless we get someone back better than Hagman what’s the point?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
how could we not? I like Hagman, but there’s no way he could return a Kabby type player straight up…
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Kaberle for Carter.
e4
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
by the end of today! what a fn day !
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he’ll want to stick around, since the teams “improved”
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
we need a stud centreman badly
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
agreed, kaberle and poni for a top flight center would be fine by me.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
i could actually see poni sticking now… who the f is going to play forward
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Does this mean Hanson gets called up?
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
And as a so-called PK specialist, Sjostrom plays 0:54/gm on the PK and is 7th among Flame forwards in PK TOI.
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is he better than Mayers?
if he is the leafs win
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve not seen the guy play, but it’s a bit odd that he’s heralded as a PK guy when he doesn’t really play the PK.
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Well, when was the last time Mayers played on the PK? Still seems to be an upgrade on the PK in either case.
by unavoidable on Jan 31, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
no we don't
Leafs aren’t making the playoffs this year. They’re a long shot for next year as well. If they can get one at minimal cost through trades, and he’s young enough to fit long term, that’s one thing, but a trade for a #1 center now doesn’t make sense long term.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
do we have one in the system though?
is kadri more suited for the wing or center?
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
Center, but I wouldn’t bring him up full time next year
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
ditto
give him a year in the AHL and see how he progresses, what kind of game he has at the pro level etc…
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
i’m fine with that, but then who’s playing with kessel for the next two years?
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
Marleau..........
anyone? anyone?
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Bozak and Kulemin
KBK
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Stalbeg!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
STAAAAALBEEERRRRRG
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Kadri’s going to be a center. Leafs are thin there. deep on wingers already.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
i didnt mean right this second, but we do need one eventually
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously depressed about White leaving
Pumps out more male with one thrust of the pelvis than the United States postal service over the last 146 years.
same, dregar was saying white priced himself off the team, he wanted 3.5mil apparently
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Meh
That’s not unreasonable for the kind of hockey he’s been playing over the past two years.
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id rather have phaneuf
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
He read clrkaitken’s posts….
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Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
I’m kind of sad that he’s on the Flames now. I sort of liked White, and now he’s on the Flames? Ugh.
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at least there is something positive to talk about now as well, this season has been the most boring one in a long time
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
pay no attention to the main behind the curtain
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
too bad they dont have ovie or semin them the leafs would be crazy good
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions
Yeah
Now Burke needs to add more offensive talent.
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Kaberle in the off season for Vorachek and a 1st!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
MARLEAU!!!1
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
MARLEAU = BEAST
But I seriously doubt he’d ever willingly go play for Ron Wilson again.
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Fools and Sages
Besides that
I really don’t want to see Marleau leave the Sharks. I love him too much.
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with the season he is having they would be crazy to let him walk
Pavelski might be had though….
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Doug Wilson absolutely loves Joe Pavelski, as does Todd McLellan – he’s pegged as a future captain. Doubt he’ll be going anywhere, either. Setoguchi is probably more likely to be let go, and even that’s an extremely small possibility.
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they wont have room to resign everyone, especially if they keep Marleau
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Marleau, Nabokov, Pavelski, and Setoguchi will likely take hometown discounts – Marleau especially. Nabokov will be 35, and will have to accept a shorter, likely cheaper contract because of the CBA rules. Setoguchi has come down to earth after last year, so won’t cost nearly as much as people were thinking. Blake is either gone or signed to a much cheaper deal. We have a lot of (cheap) prospects down in the AHL that are pretty much ready to make the jump to the NHL, but aren’t because of the lack of space on the NHL roster.
It’ll take some finagling, and maybe some trades, but it should work.
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Fools and Sages
hometown discounts are nice and all, but they usually arnt more than half a mill, it is going to take some handy work for sure.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
True, although some people are thinking that Marleau might take a long-term front-loaded deal that’ll bring his cap hit down. He’s played for the Sharks since 1997, is the franchise leader in every offensive category imaginable, has a wife from the area, and has really made himself part of the community. He’s mentioned retiring as a Shark, so I don’t see how he won’t take a discount.
Pavelski is also one of those players – he’s actually on his second contract, but still is being paid only $1.67M/year. Granted, it’ll probably jump a couple million, but considering that he is, IMO, one of the best second line centers in the league, that’s a pretty good bargain.
I have no idea about Setoguchi and Nabokov, but they have both been drafted and developed by the Sharks, so hopefully their price goes down.
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Fools and Sages
your Worcester to San Jose shuttle is working overtime with the players you keep calling up and sending back, It will be a good thing for your team to get the cap sorted out so those players can stay up with the big club if they merit it.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
We were joking last night that Jason Demers really wanted a hat trick so that he wouldn’t be sent down to Worcester again. Too bad he fell one goal short.
But, yeah, the cap thing sucks for all the players on the shuttle, but from all accounts they don’t really mind, since all the players in Worcester know that if they have a good streak going, they’ll be called up. I think over a dozen different players have been called up to San Jose at this point.
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I take notice of it mostly because I worked with the Ottawa 67s for a season, and Doug Wilson has drafted so many players from his former team. I saw a lot of Joslin, Couture and McGinn that year. All pretty good players, though I’d say McGinn is my favourite of the bunch. Good all-around game with some offensive upside.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Yeah, Wilson does have a hard-on for 67s, so much so that we sometimes consider it our junior farm team, lol.
McGinn is pretty awesome, no lies. The fact that his first NHL goal came against the Red Wings definitely helped. We actually thought he was going to be a regular this year, but the cap didn’t allow it. And then Couture is currently tearing it up in the AHL, and was recently ranked the best rookie forward in the AHL by THN.
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Fools and Sages
Okay someone here can put this to rest… A Calgary fan friend of mine said he heard that Burke was talking to Atlanta about Kovy…. is he Eklund crazy?
In the Name of the Holy Truculence
I figured as much and I can’t find anything legit to back it up, but after the whirlwind that is today I figured I’d throw a line out there to see if anyone had seen any basis for it. As far as I can tell it still remains a crazy pipe dream unless the Leafs gut their system completely.
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your friend might be
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
well...
i’ve heard rumors all over about it. but don’t see it happening.
Loving the Leafs is like being in love with a drug-addled, gambling addicted prostitute with a heart of gold and a bunch of humanitarian awards from her youth. It’s hard. It hurts. But dammit! I just love them!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
but remember
the caps just destroyes giggy not too long ago, and he hasnt played that well with hiller being a STUD. seems like every goalie the leafs pick up they become a dud. i hope that don happen with giggy
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
This is a graveyard lately.
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can u name me the last 5 goalies the leafs had in this last decade who were any good. beside ed belfour
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Potvin… well in the last decade, not the last 10 years.
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
anyone else? now the horrible goalies
would anybody say that gustafvason is a good goalie at this point? sorry bout the spelling of his name, i always mess it up.
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Belfour was considered to be done when Leafs signed him at some ridiculously old age. Still got 2 pretty good years out of him. Who says we can’t get a Belfour-esque year out of Giggy?
by unavoidable on Jan 31, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
THIS!
/please god
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, but a lot of goalies get destroyed by the caps
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
thank you
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
point of order
If someone can name all the goalies that have played for Toronto in the last 5 years I will give them a cookie.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions
belfour,tellqvist,aubin,raycrap,toskalol,pogge,gerber,macdonald…
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
gustavsson!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
lol crap
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
my point exactly every goalie the leafs end up having have been total crap. i mean come on you are in the hotbed of hockey for god sakes. you have to lead this great team into the damn playoffs
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
The only goalies that succeed in Toronto are the ones we sign who are “top-flight veterans”… despite a few bad seasons, Giggy fits that mould.
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Aubin, Raycroft, Belfour, Joseph, Toskala, Gusavsson, Gerber, Tellqvist, Pogge, MacDonald…
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jan 31, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
did
Clemmenson ever play a game for us up here?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
yep in 08
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
i think he played a couple
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll miss Ian White, but the reality is that Phaneuf has already played in two all star games and was voted to the NHL’s 1st All-Star team in 2008. And he’s a year younger than White. Stajan and Hagman were good, but not great. In 4 years we won’t even remember who they were, let alone wonder how Brian Burke managed to get Phaneuf for them.
by Screaming Will on Jan 31, 2010 2:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
amen
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Also, how the hell did he manage to get rid of Blake and Toskala at once?
by Screaming Will on Jan 31, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think that’s the only rational explanation at this point.
by Screaming Will on Jan 31, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
divine power
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
This is some welcome perspective.
And it’s easy to forget that Phaneuf is younger than White.
by JP Nikota on Jan 31, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and no mustache.
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unibrow
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Belfour, Telly, Aubin, Raycroft, Clemmensen, Toskala, Joey MacD, M-M-M-onster, Pogge, Gerber, Cujo, Reimer
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
12 goalies
in 5 years?
+ Gigeure?
Loving the Leafs is like being in love with a drug-addled, gambling addicted prostitute with a heart of gold and a bunch of humanitarian awards from her youth. It’s hard. It hurts. But dammit! I just love them!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Mind you some of those guys were filling in for injuries
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I still haven’t wrapped my head around the fact that Dion Phaneuf is a Leaf. It still feels like I am reading some crazy Eklund rumor.
i have alot of work to do in nhl 10 now
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
oh god
enough with the NHL10 already.
Hockey is an escape from reality? Why bother with another parallel universe?
Loving the Leafs is like being in love with a drug-addled, gambling addicted prostitute with a heart of gold and a bunch of humanitarian awards from her youth. It’s hard. It hurts. But dammit! I just love them!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
im just kidding dude
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
oooo
I get jokes.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly thought the fanshots were a joke when i came on about 3 hours ago… deals usually never happen on sunday
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
burke is at his strongest on sundays, his power is at its apex with all the people out there worshiping
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
This trade shows me one thing.
Brian Burke does have a plan, and he’s not abandoning it like JFJ did.
by birky on Jan 31, 2010 2:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
a team full of name players who dont live up to their contracts
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm excited
for what Aulie could potentially bring once he’s with the Leafs.
by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 31, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
and whats that to lead the leafs further into the depths of a joke
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 2:30 PM EST reply actions
uh
what?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I believe we are saving about 1 mil this season.
by Brad Ackerson on Jan 31, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, next season we wont alot of money to spend. Hopefully Burke sends Finger to the minors to free up a bit more room.
by Brad Ackerson on Jan 31, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
does anyone have the feeling the only reason wilson is still the coach cuz he is coaching team usa
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions
every time I watch a game.
Loving the Leafs is like being in love with a drug-addled, gambling addicted prostitute with a heart of gold and a bunch of humanitarian awards from her youth. It’s hard. It hurts. But dammit! I just love them!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
no
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
there is also that there arnt any other real options out there
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
i thought ronnie would do better with this squad than he has though
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
The more important question is: can anyone else do better with our spare parts pile of a team?
by unavoidable on Jan 31, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
2 players with a combined 11 goals for 4 players with a combined 47?
We already have a tough time scoring…
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we also have a tough time playing defence and goal
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
We’ll bring up some kids to make some of that up. Granted, it won’t come close to evening out, but Burke’s not finished yet, either.
I think Burke’s gonna make a run for Kovalchuk…it makes sense: he’s got an overload of D, and can offer the right combo to make the deal work. The only thing I’m not sure of is the cap space.
by westcoasthabs on Jan 31, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
send them xlb back haha
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
It sounds funny…but it could happen…that cleaver bastard!
by westcoasthabs on Jan 31, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
With Blake gone, if we can unload Exelby and Finger, we will be pretty good for cap-space… I know finger is a long shot, but Blake is gone, isnt he?
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
i cant beleive we traded blake, that was the 1 contract i thought we were stuck with forever
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
if we managed to unload Blakey, Finger shouldnt be too hard…I guess we just gonna have to look for the right trading partner
Allright kids, the word of the day is "Truculence"
Finger is getting paid almost as much as Blake… but at least Blake played regular minutes every night. Finger… wtf? I don’t see this happening.
Then again, BURKEY IS GOD.
by unavoidable on Jan 31, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Burke’s always cleaver with the cap…if he sent, say Poni, Finger, Kadri (I know, I know!) to Atlanta…that plus a little might be enough to sweeten the pot…
by westcoasthabs on Jan 31, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Knowing Burke, he’d want a deal done. He’s not into rentals for the most part.
by westcoasthabs on Jan 31, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, it would be like the kessel deal me thinks
contingent on him inking a contract
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know…have to look at the hard numbers, and I gotta run, but I think he could make it work…its just con…I mean talking with Don Waddell to get him to take on some of the cap load, with players that fit what he would need.
by westcoasthabs on Jan 31, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Burke explicitly said he won’t sign Kovy at the money that Kovy is looking for ($8+M/year). Of course, this is Burke we’re talking about so who knows…
I don’t know how they ice a team if the D, Giguere, Kovalev and Kessel eat up nearly $40M in cap space.
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D’oh! Kovalchuk.
Totally meant Kovalchuk.
This is what happens when you’re doing too many things at once.
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Sorry to butt in again, but I just realized something: there’s no way Burke’s done…have you guys brought this up yet?
Yes. Poni could still be traded. Kaberle could submit a list of teams. Finger, Exelby etc
Fairweather fans can go to hell
yeah, Im pretty sure Burke is done with the back end (maybe some tweaking with finger and exelby) but now he is going to look at improving the forwards
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
according to twitter
…there are rumours of a Poni to the Pens deal in the works…only name I’ve seen attached to that so far is Stall
there is also all the chatter about Dallas and the leafs, burke being interested in Ribero et all
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Why would the Leafs want another soft forward? Can’t see a role fo Ribero on this team.
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2nd Line Center maybe?
Not sure If I want.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, i dont see it either, Ribero isnt a kind of player that would interest buke
but i can see Niewy being interested in some of the playes he helped bring to the leafs
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
I’m starting to think if we hear rumours of a Leaf trade, it won’t happen. The ones that do happen we never hear a peep about it until it goes down.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
well there was a lot of rumbling about giggy
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah OK, that’s true, but we could never figure out who or what would go the other way.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Honestly if anyone said Blake & Toskala for JSG we would’ve mocked like no tomorrow.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
noooooo.
bruce arthur. he confirms there are whispers of poni to the pens, but that’s it. is that where staal comes into it (eklund)?? ugh.
Stall for Poni won’t happen, but i never thought Phaneuf and giggy would be Leafs for White hagman Stajan and junk.
Too much for Staal, need something else coming back.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
what about a conditional pick based on how far the pens make it (like their guerin trade)
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
maybe, I’d want it to be at least a 2nd though.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
hmmm, i’m happy if we got staal and a conditional for poni, and kaberle
to me staal is a #1 center. think getzlaf without the ice time.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
much much better
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
right now, but building for the future, I still think Staal’s got #1 center written all over him.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
i dont think there is enough proof of that, i can see him being a very good 2nd line center but calling him a legit first is a push
being said he’d be the leafs number one
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
legit first to me, just happens to play behind crosby and malkin.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
I’ve heard this argued both ways… that Staal playing behind Crosby and Malkin means he is held back from reaching his true potential, but also that it means his deficiencies are masked from playing behind those two awesome talents. Personally I think the truth is somewhere in between but leaning towards the first argument.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
agreed
hell
Getzlaf might be > than thornton soon
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Getzlaf
he’s nasty and talented..
Good times
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Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
I love Ryan Getzlaf and his balding ways. Dude routinely played 25 minutes plus in last season’s playoffs. He smells like a vault as far as I’m concerned.
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yeah, him and Perry are money as money gets
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Pens will never trade Staal for a UFA winger. Staal has the potential to be a 1st line C on any team but the Pens… they could get way more than Poni for him.
by unavoidable on Jan 31, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
burkie said he wasnt even close to being done, fuck im excited
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
if you had a to get a fantsay trade here it is:
caps trade ovie, semin, bruce boudreau to the leafs for wilson.
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 2:35 PM EST reply actions
replace semin with backstrom and youve got a deal
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
semin has been a beast this last 9 game win streak the caps have been on though
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
…..
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
i know….
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Burke is a Genius
If these trades hadn’t have gone through today, the only thing us, the media, and everyone else would have been talking about today is how bad the leafs are and how RW and Burke both need to go.
Instead we’re waxing poetic about how amazing it is to be a Leafs fan again.
Genius.
Loving the Leafs is like being in love with a drug-addled, gambling addicted prostitute with a heart of gold and a bunch of humanitarian awards from her youth. It’s hard. It hurts. But dammit! I just love them!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:37 PM EST reply actions
that game last night still stings…
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Um
So, one thing that worries me is that Toronto next to Calgary probably feels like LA for a rich hockey player and his famous girlfriend (next to Calgary).
So……should we expect a lot of problems with Dion?
Loving the Leafs is like being in love with a drug-addled, gambling addicted prostitute with a heart of gold and a bunch of humanitarian awards from her youth. It’s hard. It hurts. But dammit! I just love them!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions
I am still in fuckin shock.
You know when your team picks up a player that you absolutely love. A player you NEVER thought you could get. That’s the feeling I have right now.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Yeah Sjostrom is amazing… oh wait you’re talking about Phaneuf right?
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
Totally gotta get a Phaneuf jersey now.
This smile isnt leaving my face
Fairweather fans can go to hell
I jokingly said to PPP:
another bright side of the deal? MLSE’s lost playoff revenue to be off-set by Phaneuf jersery sales. /Peddie
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
We got rid of Mayers, Toskala, and Blake in one day
I don’t even remember last night
A Nation of Masochists Waiting is the hardest part.
its a miracle
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
i reeeeellly hope phaneuf rounds back into form though
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
watch, blake will score 20 more this year and toskala will finish the year with a .920 sv %.
stajan,hagman and white will be cornerstones in a clagary march to the final.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
they call me mr.optimism
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
i am giddy at the thought of Phaneuf hammering home a few kabby passes though
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
he has an absolute cannon, it also means Kessel will get a little more room as defending teams will have to play a man high on Phaneuf
I see the PP improving
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
me too, that’s the most exciting part of the deals I think
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so… who would you pair kabba up with if we have a healthy d corp.
kaberle – phaneuf
komisarek – beauchemin
gunnarsson – schenn
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 31, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Kaberle/Phaneuf screams defensive liability though. I think we probably have to split them up, Kaberle/Komi and Phaneuf/Beauch.
Prefers pugnacity to truculence.
once komi is healthy id like to see
kabby- komi
beauc – Dion
Schenn – Gunnar
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sill wrapping my head around the amount of money that is invested in the backline. That is such huge money tied there.
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yup, especially with Finger in the mix
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Finger, Exelby & Kaberle are gonna be on the move.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
Finger will be shipped out for whatever, same with exelby
Kaberle is gone in the off season me thinks (although it will take an overpayment as without white, the leafs do not have a good puck mover to replace him)
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Easier said than done
I do wonder about Kaberle now.
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I agree, though in that situation I would see the first 2 pairing there getting about 45 minutes of the ice time every game.
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
id split kabby and phaneuf with more defensive partners to cover them in their own end
maybe give each a kiddo
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
HOLAY
So I’m hung over and just got up like an hour ago and I open PPP and see this trade, this is crazy. I don’t know what I think yet – I’m VERY surprised we were able to stick Blake in the deal with his crazy contract, glad to see Toskala out of here, and super pumped that we got Giggy. I worked at the AHL arena in Saint John, NB when he was with the Saint John Flames and won the Calder cup so I’ve always had a soft spot for him. Sad to see White and Hagman gone, I always thought Hagman was kind of like our unofficial captain this year even though he didn’t even have an “A” on his jersey. It just seemed like he was always talking on the bench to the guys and offering advice – very even keeled.
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K so i know this is pretty farfetched
And I know i’ve been drinking since we lost my idol, but what does everyone think about something like Kaberle, Kadri, and Finger for Kovi, providing we could pre-negotiate an extension with Kovalchuk for a deal thats worth about 7.5-8mil per? Finger being included, IMO, would be the key.
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
i don’t like it, not that it’s a horrible idea, but i don’t want to give up more prospects. that’s why i didn’t mind today’s deals.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
I’m not saying its ideal, but it gives us the space to sign kovi, and sure we lose kadri but Kovi is probably better than nazdaq’s ceiling anways. Its not perfect, but I’m sure most people would feel its a decent deal.
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
I doubt Atlanta buys it. The lack of first round pick kills the deal for them.
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Someone will match and double that offer.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 31, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
easily
the only way burke gets in on kovy is as aUFA
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
have we now gotten rid of all the JFJ mistakes???
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
by ohshrit on Jan 31, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
holy hell……WE HAVE!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
pretty much…but to his credit, he did drafted a few gems outhere…stalberg, kuli, and Gunn comes to mind
Allright kids, the word of the day is "Truculence"
and kabbys contract
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
yah, which is gone!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Still paying for Raycroft and Tucker buyouts.
by unavoidable on Jan 31, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
And this has to be a rec
I want to believe this is true.
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I haven’t combed through the AHL, but I think you’re right about no more JFJ guys with the Leafs.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
well, no bad fj gues
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
he stole that from MF37
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
BOO DAMIEN COX
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
I just realized
That I’m much happier losing Hags and White for Phaneuf and Aulie then trading each of them separately for 2nds, which it probably what we would get at the deadline.
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
Anyone else watched the Phaneuf Interview?
He doesn’t seem too impressed with coming to Toronto :S
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
he’s an alberta boy who just got traded by his childhood team, of course he isnt happy
i bet Stajan isnt too pleased either
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
I thought he was an Edmonton fan growing up?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
i have no idea, i took a 50 50 shot, whatever
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he’s from Edmonton, though he could have been a rebel who cheered for the enemy
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
Until he steps in the room.
Dion, meet Mike, Luke and Francois. Guys, this is Dion.
Dion, you see those two guys over there? They’re Jonas and JS. It’s you four’s job to pound the ever-living fuck out of anyone who comes near them.
Dion, this is Tomas. Every powerplay, he’s going to make about 40 picture-perfect passes to you for a one-time. Start polishing that cannon; you’re going to score a lot.
DIon, this is Howard. Punch him in the face whenever you want.
Welcome to TOronto, kid.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 31, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I hope this is the case. The passes from Kabs should do it.
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
This seems to be apporpriate
I made this a while back for a SLGT NHLoL contest …
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by CrossCheckRaise on Jan 31, 2010 4:26 PM EST reply actions
Its Burke's team now.
To me these two trades are great not because of who the Leafs got, but who they got rid of.
Just looking at those two bums Toskala and Blake all year has been making me sick. Their incompetence spread like a virus throughout the entire team. Never in a billion years did I EVER thnk Burke could get rid of Blake or Toskala unless he ate their contracts and buried them on the Marlies. To get rid of both at the same time and not just dump them but actually trade them for something valuable is absolutely incredible.
To me, this was the better of the two trades but the Phaneuf trade is a winner as well.
Phaneuf epitomizes the Burke vision of truculence. He is the new face of what the Leafs aspire to be and he sets the benchmark. The added benefit of finally getting rid of the last vestiges of the old loser Leafs regime is a bonus. Stajan: nice guy, swell fella, see ya! Hagman? Who cares, an FA like that is readily available at any time.
For better or for worse, this is Burke’s team now. Lets win a couple of games now.
Kaberle is next, he is the only valuable, expendable commodity – more expendable now with Phaneuf on the team. Great player, great Leafs history but sorry, the Leafs are 3-4 years out from making a run in the playoffs, by then Kaberle is 35,36 years old. Trade him NOW for draft picks or young prospects. Who cares if they can contribute now, by the time they come into their own, the Leafs will be contending again.
GO LEAFS GO!!
Bye bye
Leafs as Alix’s Eastern boyfrens. Phaneuf has never lived up to his rookie season. That’s an AWFUL contract.
It's all hot bishes, naps, and dance parties
ahw
dont be like that Alix!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
But, but, but
We’re soooo good looking! Can’t Schenn’s stunning ways offset and cancel Phaneuf out?
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Phaneuf
is so hideous I’m not sure the Leafs remaining handsomeness can counter it.
It's all hot bishes, naps, and dance parties
schenn and komi can counter anything!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
via TSN
since entering the NHL
Phaneuf leads all D im
Goals
PPG
GWG
Shots
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:51 PM EST reply actions
Did they happen to mention that Phaneuf’s goal scoring totals have declined every year he’s been in the NHL?
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shhh
you’re ruining it
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry.
I don’t think of it as ruining, I think of it as being ahead of the curve.
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well he is only one goal off last years totals which were his career low and only 7 less than he got the two previous years 7 more goals isnt impossible for him to get in 20+ games ;eft this season, especially if he gets increased PP time (which be probably will)
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
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