Toronto Maple Leafs trade Jason Blake and Vesa Toskala to Anaheim for Jean-Sebastien Giguere
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Brian Burke was not done when he swung a blockbuster for Dion Phaneuf. He proceded to trade Jason Blake and Vesa Toskala to Anaheim for Jean-Sebastien Giguere. I can only assume that his next move will be to turn water into wine. Picking up JS Giguere has been discussed from the moment that Burke took the Leafs' reins and the chatter became deafening once Jonas Hiller was signed to an extension. The Leafs win this trade hands down. We will never hear "it goes through Toskala" again or "Blake fires into [goalie's] chest".
The consensus among Leafs fans was that Vesa Toskala had about as much value as a broken hockey stick. A quick look at his basic stats confirms it
The numbers on Blake are just as staggering. MF37 nailed it: Blake scored 40 goals the year before he signed in Toronto and 50 in 216 games as a Leaf.
The Ducks get a player that works very hard but is not a smart hockey player. He is incredibly predictable, doesn't pass, can't shoot, but he works his tail off.
Earl Sleek has an amazing post looking at his performance this year by period. The good news is that he is incredible in the first two periods. The bad news is that he is Toskala-esque over the third period and overtime. Cap-wise, Giguere is on the books next year for $6M but the next year Burke just took $4M off which is a hefty chunk of change. This makes two terrible goalies that Burke has unloaded on Anaheim creating a rather funny situation:
Imagine Hiller goes down for Anaheim. They will have Toskala and Pogge LOL
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This takes away some cap flexibility next year as the Leafs will have almost $47M committed to just 14 players but not one of them is Jason Blake so that's reason enough to smile. Giguere is a massive upgrade on Vesa Toskala, has already spoken to Wilson about mentoring Jonas Gustavsson, and is seen by Burke as an incredible example for the young goaltender to folllow. This is partly about upgrading the goaltending but also about creating a perfect atmosphere for Gustavsson to reach his full potential.
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Agreed
There is no goalie out there that we would be able to acquire that has as much playoff success as Giguere does. He’s won a Conn Smythe and a Stanley Cup; he knows what it takes to win. It also doesn’t matter if he’s not greatly better than Toskala, because this does shore up our goaltending for next season too; seeing as how Nabakov isn’t going anywhere, and I don’t really want Turco and that leaves Dan Ellis.
We require, as a team, proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence.
by Belligerent Burkie on Jan 31, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions
Wow.
Going to miss Matty and Ian, but let me just say – that’s how it’s done. There isn’t a damn thing I don’t like about these trades.
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by Pamplemousse on Jan 31, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions
Except for losing 40% of our offense, but that’s the last piece, I guess.
Gigeure>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2 bags of pucks.
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We couldn't score on Andrew Raycroft BEFORE we traded Hagman et al.
Where does that put us now?
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Meh
He’s building from the net out – his defense is now set for the next few years, and his goaltending is set for at least next year. How he concentrates on the forwards going… forward.
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by Pamplemousse on Jan 31, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Is it possible that Anaheim wanted Toskala?
Terrible as a starter but he was once upon a time a very capable backup goaltender. And if he sucks (very likely) he’s a nice expiring contract. Blake’s contract was certainly the one that Burke demanded be moved if Anaheim was acquiring VT’s expiring contract.
I think longer term cap relief is the big reason Anaheim makes the deal.
Sure they take on a pro-rated $2M in salary this season (Blake+Toskala-Giguere) but free up $2M next season (Giguere-Blake).
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REALLY?
Why, who would want his sorry excuse for a goalie, if anaheim needs a goalie take Jose Three or more
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
I chose the wrong day to sleep in
I’m still letting this sink in.
A Nation of Masochists Waiting is the hardest part.
I hated playing with the Leafs and seeing Blake and Vesa
rated 83 and 84 respectively. Now I don’t have to worry about that.
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Can we please initiate a no NHL10 rule here? If you want to talk fake stats I’m sure there are NHL10 message boards. /grumpy old man.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 31, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
usually that kind of stuff is for teh Chatty Cathy, but I don;t think there is one today (mainly for the dam burst of trades today)
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by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 31, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Unless the new Mrs. Chemmy got him a 3-way, Chemmy’s not getting a better wedding present than this.
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I love this trade. The Calgary trade on the other hand… not so much
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agreed
i think.
I see very little downside on this one. The Phaneuf deal has the potential to go very very wrong just because of his contract.
I’m new at this. I had to join after this. Toskala is $3.5 million/year and according to save percentage I believe he is in the bottom 5 of all goalies to play in the NHL. What could whoever Anaheim’s GM is be thinking. I guess the same thing he was thinking when he signed Koivu.
getting someone to sit on the bench while clearing giggys cap space to sign ryan
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
But you cant have any plans of winning if you WANT Vesa Toskala.
by Tomas-a-thon on Jan 31, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Anaheim doesnt have a shot at winning this year. This was a REAL good trade for them
Fairweather fans can go to hell
not a shot in hell
they’re tied with st. louis for 12th right now on the west, and considering the brutalilty of the west, they have only the slimmest chance of even making the playoffs.
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I wouldn’t go as far as saying it’s a very good trade for Anaheim. It’s a solid trade, but mainly for the salary cap clearing of Toskala.
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This trade is like the Kubina to Atlanta trade.
Free up salary so they can sign Ryan next year
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yeah, which should be simpler for them now.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 31, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
But Anaheim will still have to find a backup goalie and shore up their secondary scoring either way. This trade doesn’t help them hockey personnel wise.
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they also have to pay Blake
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 31, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
And in a bigger and more competitive conference, Blake is simply playing for the experience and third line role. I think the Leafs come out as winners in this one, despite the huge cap hit of Jiggy.
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Yeah, and as Allaire’s best student, he can mentor the Monster for a season or two.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 31, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
trying to check my hysteria here but the leafs managed to trade probably the worst goalie in the NHL value wise, and frankly performance wise. The leafs definitely are the winners on this one. then they threw Blake in too
by Tomas-a-thon on Jan 31, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
they have pogge!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
ECHL All-Star Justin Pogge!
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 31, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
JS Gigurere cap hits: 6M this season, 6M next season
V Toskala cap hits: 4M this season, 0M next season (he’s a UFA)
6M is a whole lot of money to pay a backup goalie for two years. This is about salary flexibility for Anaheim.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jan 31, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Blake’s cap hit shoudl be factored into that equation… don’t you think, considering he was part of the trade? It ends up being 1.5 mil if you put that in, and I think the upgrade is worth it, especially considering we DONT want a lottery pick.
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Giguere is only 32!
Wasn’t Belfour like 38 when we got him? I’m not comparing the two but, Giggy could still have some good years. After this season I’d be surprised if Toskala plays in the NHL again.
He’s not a backup
by Tomas-a-thon on Jan 31, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
he was washed up then too as i remember
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
i am officially drinking to koolaid, i am picturing both Giggy and Dion regaining their allstar form
ugh, must stop!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
cherry is my favourite
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Good point. Blake’s useful, but overpaid. Makes it less of a good cap clearing deal for the Ducks
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 31, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
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Can anyone post some likely lines and pairings? Come on, help a Caps fan out in getting his head around these deals.
Thanks!
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i see stemp and stalberg switching it up, but then it is wilson so who the fuck knows
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know much about Bozak and Mitchell. Can they handle what they’re about to be asked to do?
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 31, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Bozak has the potential to, and only time will tell
Mitchell….no, he peaks as a 3rd line center who can fill in on the 2nd briefly, he sucks and has a fat head
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, we are good….
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Mitchell – I’m not impressed with.
Bozak has some skills – definitely wait and see.
Burke will trade some D for forwards (hopefully)
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks much! I know I’m not the first to say it, but y’all seem to have too many D and not enough F (especially C).
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 31, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, we have enough forwards. They’re just not all that great. :)
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Yeah, some better forwards would be nice.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Mitchell as the #2 C scares me.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
You forget
about Grabo. Whenever his injury heals, he’s inserted as the incumbent #2 centre.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, but until he returns, we have Mitchell. And Wallin. I don’t like having both of them in our lineup.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
i dont like having EITHER of them in our line up
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
me neither, but it’s temporary and i wouldn’t take the trade back because of it.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
oh no me neither.
Just trying to temper my excitement with something that’s really a non-factor.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
I was planning on going to a Marlies game soon enough. But something tells me that the Marlies will be even worse in the next coming weeks.
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Hanson and Stalberg are definitely back up.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
another huge plus from these deals.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Is Hanson recovered from his concussion?
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
wow the marlies are going to be terrible
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Also, expect to see Tim Brent and Andre Deveaux play up.
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sort of excited about Tim Brent.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
haha, the man is walking hype
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
1.0 ppg in 6 AHL games thus far
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I know!!!!!!!
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Tim Brent? Who in the fuck is Tim Brent?
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I don’t know, but he needs to give Phil his number back, pronto!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
What makes me love this deal
is that, if a year and a half ago, I had said “blake and toskala for JS Giguere!” everyone would have thought I was crazy. We basically traded a bag of pucks and a bullet wound in our cap space for a guy who is at least going to fill a hole and do some good.
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by Shield on Jan 31, 2010 3:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
not only that
but can mentor Jonas and show him the ropes…Im really loving this deal
Allright kids, the word of the day is "Truculence"
Not sure I’d want my young goalie learning technique from JS Gigurere. Just sayin’…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jan 31, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
You wouldn’t want him being a Conn Smyth calibre goaile?
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Well the backup can be a stanley cup winner. I think his smyth for losing is more important.
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Have you seen Giguere’s technique? Hey, whatever works for him is great, but I’m not sure it would work for anyone else. I’m not saying he’s bad, I’m saying he’s…unconventional.
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 31, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
he’s very good positionally, and that’s about the extent of his technique.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
gusty is the opposite
all reflexes, but wanders around like he’s playing water polo.
a perfect combination?
wonder if we can fuse them together
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sure that I want Gustavsson to learn work ethic from Giguere (especially when Toskala was the incumbent mentor) — Allaire can teach the technique.
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Amen to that. No issues with Giguere’s work ethic
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 31, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Poor DGB.
He writes an entire article giving a pretty logical and rational explanation about why he’s checking out from the Leafs until after the Olympics.
Two days later, all hell breaks loose and this happens.
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if I remember
he said he’d still follow, read blogs, etc. , just not watch games
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well damn...
…I go out for a nice sunday brunch and Burke decides the NHL is actually EA NHL 10 and fucking trades half the team away! I love the binocular viewing, silver tongued bastard! Thank you for not accepting the bullshit we were all forced too! Thank you thank you!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 31, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions
NHL10 would never allow this deal to go through
by Tomas-a-thon on Jan 31, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know, I got a lot for Toskala in that game.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 31, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
i just tried the giiggy for toskala and blake trade and the game laughed at me
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I traded on day one. I’m not trading starting again. Try mid season. Might help
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 31, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
them (blake and toskalol) away…shit my reply was poor!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 31, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
My buddy is going to the game on Tuesday
Who thinks I should beat him up and take his tix?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
wait, why are you typing! Get punching!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 31, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
DO itt!!
I have to wait for march 6th and 16th to see this new team… thought more trades before then might make it just as special.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
change is scary but good. real good.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jan 31, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
yah, i think Phaneuf will do well in toronto, although he will never live up to his contract
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
We’ll have to see for sure, since Phaneuf’s drop has been precipitous to say the least.
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Despite his very mediocre play, I just plain don’t like Phaneuf. So my bias is now open to be mocked.
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the risk-reward in these deals is so heavily tilted in the Leafs favour that I just want to keep drinking.
NO MORE TOSKALA.
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Thank you.
Brian Burke has officially turned his swag on.
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You had to go and ruin this thread didnt you?
Just kidding, still love you brother!
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agreed. this is the second most anticipated game of the year!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
I’m absolutely stunned he did all this without sacrificing a single pick or prospect.
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He’s done enough draft pick sacrificing.
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Hah
Was about to say that Burke didn’t have any draft picks to trade.
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WOO!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
wow...absolutely incredible.
takes some impressive gonads to pull off a trade like this…would make both of these trades…anytime…thank you mr burke!!
Burkie is a stone cold killa
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Now all the Leafs need to do...
… is lose the rest of their games to make sure they get Taylor Hall. =]
WOW THAT IS HILARIOUS NO ONE HAS EVER MADE THAT JOKE BEFORE
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if he has an Titanic Jokes, cause, y’know, those are still fresh.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Burke is KING OF THE WORLD!!!!!
I’m about to go through more cigars than Monica Lewinsky
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 31, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
IN CELEBRATION
…. in celebration.
not for nasty things.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 31, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
You must have Jay Leno’s writers ;)
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I dig it
It seemed pretty clear the team clubhouse needed a cleansing and these deals sure as hell do that and get the kids more playing time.
I’m not a Leafs fan but I like these deals. I think Phaneuf feeds off being in a bigger city and Giguere’s change of scenery and getting bro hugs from Beauchemin and Allaire lift him up.
Kind of bummed
I like the new tagline at the top of the page… but I was all pumped to come on here and suggest “at least we aren’t the Oilers!”
Now its trumped by unloading Tosk and Blake
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When I heard
That we traded for Phaneuf I was “FUCK, we have too many D as it is.. unless Finger and/or Exelby are gone – I will be pissed!”
Then I realized we traded White (probably going to cost too much to re-sign – but I miss him already) and Hagman – I really liked him but he is very streaky.
That made me sad… then I saw the rest of the deal and went “oh, ok”
This is probably not a great trade for the Leafs if you look at it by itself, but if we can move another D or 2 for some forwards then it becomes very good.
Also, LOVE the Giggy Deal!!! 2 years of Blake for 1 year of Giggy, i can do – also, fuck toskala right in his stupid head.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 4:13 PM EST reply actions
fuck toskala right in his stupid head
well said.
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by Kerry Fraser on Jan 31, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
This is probably not a great trade for the Leafs if you look at it by itself, but if we can move another D or 2 for some forwards then it becomes very good.
I think that’s the key. Toronto by far has the highest amount salary tied up in the back-end of any team in the NHL. Arguable if the Leafs have that elite D yet, but they’re all paid very well, which limits the Leafs from adding more pieces to round out their depth for sure.
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the hell with that. i’d take draft picks for exelby and/or finger!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
OH MY GOD
OH MY GOD
OH MY GOD
SOMEONE TOOK TOSKALA AND BLAKE IN A TRADE
AND ACTUALLY GAVE AN NHL PLAYER BACK IN RETURN
I DONT UNDERSTAND.
/passes out
So Handsome.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
This
is un-freakin’-believable.
My heart is crushed over Stajan and White. They were good guys.
On the other hand, Mayers, Blake, and Toskala are no longer Leafs. OH THANK GOD THANK GOD THANK GOD. Especially Blake. Unbelievable.
by general borschevsky on Jan 31, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions
My sentiments exactly, plus we could have lost Stajan and White for nothing so I’m glad we turned them into Phaneuf.
AND JASON BLAKE IS GONE! HALLELUJAH!
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well
we couldn’t have lost White for nothing, we would’ve either re-signed him or taken picks from an offer sheet. But I still think Phaneuf’s ceilling is WAY higher than White’s.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
But I still think Phaneuf’s ceilling is WAY higher than White’s.
You’re obviously forgetting to take the Mustachulence Factor into consideration.
Pumps out more male with one thrust of the pelvis than the United States postal service over the last 146 years.
Well, the moustache will draw attention away from his five-head, so that’s good, right?
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I suspect
Phaneuf’s mustache would lack all the glory that White’s did
I'll roll up on you smooth and punch you in the jeans
Phaneuf has as many goals and more assists that Kulie
intersting
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 4:22 PM EST reply actions
Correction: Anahiem has taken 1 bad goalie off of our hands in Toskala. Pogge is starting to and will continue to bite us in the ass.
Ahl stats:
14 GP 7-5-2 2.47 GAA .924 Save Pct.
We got nothing for him so how could that be good for the Leafs.
he hasnt proven to be anything at an NHL level yet, so until then he is still a shitty NHL goalie
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Douglas Murray scored a hat trick on him during the preseason. Douglas Murray, he of 2 NHL goals in both the regular and post-season since 2005.
Any goalie who allows a Murray hat trick should be taken out back and shot. Okay, maybe not that drastic, but still.
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Fools and Sages
Martin Brodeur got beat on a break away by colton Or
Roberto Luongo got beat by a 30 foot slap shot by Jamal Mayes
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, okay
Trying to make it look better, but whatever ;)
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and kipper got scored on by mason raymond from center ice.
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GO CANUCKS GO!
Pavelec got scored on from 180 ft by Jeff Schultz
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 31, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
To come full circle, should I mention the Toskalol howlers?
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If we're going on distance
We’d have to mention Toskala’s 197 footer against the Islanders.
I still can’t believe we got anything for him.
Prefers pugnacity to truculence.
That’s the most shocking thing of all, I didn’t think we could even get a bag of used pucks for Toskalol.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Meh
This is like Kyle Wellwood all over again. It’s a brief, brief bit of good play. Let’s see what he does for his career before bemoaning his departure.
Not to mention that the trade likely was the impretus for him waking up.
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The day God finally had mercy on Leafs fans and
sent that fucking Jason Blake to hell.
Amen.
P.S. Toastie Toskala too.
by not norm ullman on Jan 31, 2010 4:24 PM EST reply actions
Hell is Anaheim?
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
I want to see if Blake is capable of getting a tan.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Blake already in Anaheim?
Prefers pugnacity to truculence.
by chillin411 on Jan 31, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Newest ducks player jason blake was killed thismorning as he stepped out in the sun, thinking he was still in toronto
his ashes will be transported back to his home town tomarrow
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
OH NOOOOOEEES!!!
I just realized that with Dion now being a Leaf, TSN Coverage of Leaf games will include Pierre sucking his balls on national tv!
arrrg@!
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 4:25 PM EST reply actions
Pierre loves sloppy seconds.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Thirds, by proxy?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
nah, dion is too old for pierre
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Just watch TSN tonight… you will see….
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
I spin this positive, as it’s the first time all season PIerre will fawn over someone playing for the Leafs.
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Toskala Cap Counter - RIP
2 trades great not because of who they got - but who they go rid of.
To me these two trades are great not because of who the Leafs got, but who they got rid of.
Just looking at those two bums Toskala and Blake all year has been making me sick. Their incompetence spread like a virus throughout the entire team. Never in a billion years did I EVER thnk Burke could get rid of Blake or Toskala unless he ate their contracts and buried them on the Marlies. To get rid of both at the same time and not just dump them but actually trade them for something valuable is absolutely incredible.
To me, this was the better of the two trades but the Phaneuf trade is a winner as well.
Phaneuf epitomizes the Burke vision of truculence. He is the new face of what the Leafs aspire to be and he sets the benchmark. The added benefit of finally getting rid of the last vestiges of the old loser Leafs regime is a bonus. Stajan: nice guy, swell fella, see ya! Hagman? Who cares, an FA like that is readily available at any time.
For better or for worse, this is Burke’s team now. Lets win a couple of games now.
Kaberle is next, he is the only valuable, expendable commodity – more expendable now with Phaneuf on the team. Great player, great Leafs history but sorry, the Leafs are 3-4 years out from making a run in the playoffs, by then Kaberle is 35,36 years old. Trade him NOW for draft picks or young prospects. Who cares if they can contribute now, by the time they come into their own, the Leafs will be contending again.
GO LEAFS GO!!
for what its worth Stajan is, yes very nice.
But he will never be a second line centre on an stanley cup winning team. He is filler. The reason he’s got the points he has is because of his minutes. Bozak could come close to his numbers no problem if he had Stajan’s games played and minutes. I will not miss stajan even when I see him being nice in Calgary
by Tomas-a-thon on Jan 31, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Phaneuf epitomizes the Burke vision of truculence. He is the new face of what the Leafs aspire to be and he sets the benchmark.
I don’t know how regularly you watch Phaneuf, but his defensive liabilities on the ice were very obvious in recent years. His penchant for seeking out the big hit and taking himself completely out of the play has very much aggravated the Flames coaching staff for years. I hope for the Leafs sake, Phaneuf’s brand of truculence is much more toned down and controlled.
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Someone should make a photoshop of Phaneuf in a leafs jersey.
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I’m on it!
Expect it by Tuesday night.
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 31, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
If you told me 3 weeks ago
that Burke would trade Stajan, Blake, Hagman, Toskala, White, and Mayers and get an All-Star defenceman and a starting goalie (33 years old, career .913 SV%), I would be ecstatic. The Leafs got more in return than what they sent out.
When you have a sens fan and a few Habs fans commenting on TSN.ca(Yes, TSN.ca..I couldn’t believe it either) that Burke made some good deals… you wonder if somehow you stepped into some parallel universe – is it opposite day today?
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Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 5:03 PM EST reply actions
yeah, even on Hf boards there are fans of other teams saying Burke do good, i am in shocks’ville
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
that was a rumour, I forget if it was debunked or not.
I'll roll up on you smooth and punch you in the jeans
DUN DUN DUUUUN
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
so….him and Phaneuf would be the “sloppy Seconds” pair-up?
I'll roll up on you smooth and punch you in the jeans
by loser domi on Jan 31, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the sloppy second pairing!
even though Komi had her before even avery did
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think Wilson said Komi is about a week or two away last night.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
there was talk to day that he was done for the season, i have no idea the souce though
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I watched the post game presser with Wilson here on PPP yesterday, and he made it clear Komi would be back pretty soon. I think I have that right. I’m still in a daze over here. It is 6:30 a.m. What a mind blowing Monday mornin’ !
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
For Komi’s sake, if the injury is anything serious, I rather he remain on the sidelines until he’s 100%. Komisarek’s signed here long-term, no need to risk anything this season.
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Could not agree more. Beauchemin, Komisarek, Phaneuf, Kaberle. Wow! And two decent goalies. We are beginning to look good. I think. I think that is what I think. This is phenomenal. I’m still reeling and buzzing from this – it’s too much to process. Ian White is gone – I’m having a hard time dealing with that. Stajan and Haggy – I can deal. Whitey – that hurts.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
It’s funny how the Leafs still have Luke Schenn in their depths as well. I’m very curious how the team handles his development now.
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Schenner, Gunner, Finger (ugh). Wild. I just hope we keep on playing Schenn and let him develop slowly. Don’t ruin him like Fred Boimistruck, Todd Gill to some degree etc…….. Even Al The Human Highlight Reel Iafrate was ruined to some degree because he played too young imo – played for the big blue and white I mean.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Look at that! It's a goalie making a save.
PPP you slay me man. Woke up near Shanghai, fell out bed and grabbed my laptop. Then I fell into a dream – this is a parallel universe – is it true? Is Shake ‘n Blake really gone? Is Toskalol really gone? I’m still processing and laughing my head off. Second best line was what if Hiller gets hurt? They have to turn to Toskalol or Pogge. That is way way way too funny. Keep unloading the sludge Burkie. Great job.
The Phaneuf deal might turn out to be a steal. I sure hope so. I need a lot of time to process that and study who exactly we got outside of Dion. Been waiting for this all year long – seeing Burke all alone and furious after Toskalol blew the winner last night just made me wonder: when is that Mad Irishman gonna pull the trigger on some deadweight? It finally happened. And I am sure much much more is to come. Stay tuned.
I am sad we only discovered this nickname now that he’s gone.
But then I remember that BLAKE IS GONE and I am happy again.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry I did not mention that nickname before. I had given up hope on the Leafs.
Hence my prolonged absence. I could not possibly keep it cute so I put it on mute. Shake and Blake is gone. Toskalol is gone. I need to call in sick and start partying heavily. I think Iam going to wake up my poor wife. It’s party time in China!
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
ShakeNBlake was his screen name for Maple leafs chats for a while
I'll roll up on you smooth and punch you in the jeans
i am sad that i will have no more use for those awesome dancing hamsters
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
But now you count post pictures of dancing Will Smith’s getting Giggy with it
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
na na na na na na na HEY!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
I am not guilty of plagiarism. I swear. lol lol
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha, LOVE the new site tag line
love it
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 5:42 PM EST reply actions
here’s the thing about losing so many points – when Sundin was gone last year, and you looked at our line-up, did anyone say “Hmm, I think that Matt Stajan will really step up his game and provide some offense”. Seriously, did you?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:43 PM EST reply actions
Matt who? Doesn’t he play for the Flames?
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Besides, Tim Brent will replace this so-called Stajan character. I’m waiting…
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Around these parts cussing is not only allowed, but encouraged. Feel free to drop the F-bombs is necessary.
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if*
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
don’t fucking talk to me you fucking ass
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
for the fuck of love!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i know, and I do regularly swear
but it felt unfair on a Sunday to cuss out Tim Brent in jest.
its not like its for reasons of a “for FUCKS SAKE TOSKALA STOP THE FUCKING PUCK YOU HORSESHIT CUNTFACE.”
because those i’m okay with.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 31, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
HAH
my point is that offense can come from unexpected places.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
this is true
lets hope the D can pick up some of the slack…
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 31, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of unexpected offence, what is going on with Slaney down with the Marlies? Anybody know? Leading scorer in the Q. last year I believe.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
he is playing horribad
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
I just want our D to play good D
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
great
are we converting to a trapping team?
because I’ll rather the Leafs finish last every season for the next 10 years then watch them play trap
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 31, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
good defense doesn’t mean Trap. Look at Detroit and Chicago. There’s some really good defense with no trap.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
You also need forwards who can play a trap system. I don’t think we have forwards with that ability here.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
that’s why we got rid of so many of them. WOOO.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
yea but
we’re moving towards becoming the Toronto Mighty Ducks…
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 31, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
I’m OK with that. Are Perry and Getzlaf next?
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yessir. And Burkie should make up with Lowe and grab Penner.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Burke only wants Anaheim blueliners and goalies
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 31, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t we pretend Penner is still a Quacker?
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think
he’s done much since he joined the Oilers…
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 31, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
he started the year awesome, but has trailed off the past few monhts
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
He started the season on fire. Don’t know how he is doing now.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
22 goals. Would’ve done a lot better if Hemsky was healthy.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’d love to see Burke snatch Penner from under Lowe’s feet.
I'm worse than Auger.
by Kerry Fraser on Jan 31, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Still too giddy. I understand Playoffs!!!!1
D and goalies only. No forwards. lol lol
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Oh to dream…
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Now 7 a.m. here. I think I am still dreaming.
Toskalol and Shake ’n Bake are gone. Laughs hard, very hard!
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Quack
Quack. Quack.
Quack, Quack, Quack
QUACK, QUACK! QUACK! QUACK!
WOOOOOOAAAH Go LEAFDUCKS GO!!!
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 31, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Never crossed my mind. My last memory of Stajan as a Leaf was in the third period last night – Kaberle pinches in and Stajan couldn’t hit the tape for an easy tap in goal for us. Sayonara Stajan. Good Toronto lad. We loved you, good luck in Calgary.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, I'll miss Matty and Whitey
But I’m now loving all the local media here in Cgy, talking about what a great “puck distributor” Matt is and they can’t wait for him! Really, is that what you were saying last week?
I thought not.
Grabo's virtual linemate.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
HA! How is Phil Kessel going to get any goals without Matt “The Playmaker” Stajan?
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TIM BRENT!!!
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I've not had the best of days
I fucked up my car’s muffler when I rammed the back of my car into an ice-bank backing out of a parking spot in a hurry…
Clogged the damned tailpipe with ice and snow, took me forever to clear it in this freezing weather, probably wasn’t a good idea to run the engine to use the warm exhaust to help melt the snow, although my mechanic buddy checked it out and said there shouldn’t be any permanent damage to the engine although I really shouldn’t have done that…
But now I need a new muffler
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 31, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
GRABBO will be back to slaying pineapples soon enough
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by Likely on Jan 31, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Centers are now:
Bozak
Grabovski (when not broken)
Mitchell
Wallin
In that order
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Wallin will be gone sooon thank Buddha.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
RW had a curious comment in his presser today, something along the lines of not being fair to Wallin. What?
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Wow
That is by a wide margin, the worst 4 centers on any team in the NHL. I think we now know what position Burke is going after in free agency.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Two UFA’s off the top of my head are Marleau and Jokinen.
We could also trade for a Pavelski.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
Marleau, Jokinen, S. Koivu, Plekanec……
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Marleau will probably stay in SJ
Olli Eyebrows is shit
Koivu is old and going to Minni (Anaheim was just a final-year Teemu thing)
and Plekanec is not someone I’d put on a pedestal and say “Here God himself has created the perfect mold of a #1 NHL Centre.”
Its spare parts and questionable value. There will be a market, but I woulndt want to be bidding.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 31, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
So you’re saying that Stajan is really that much better? ‘Cause frankly, I’d rather take anyone on that list over Stajan.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
pump and dump oli eyebrows!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
no
my point is that our #1 centre wont be addressed by free agency.
neither was stajan the answer.
…
you’re our only hope!
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 31, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Well it doesn’t have to be solved by free agency. There’s the possibility (although not that likely) that we find a #1 center in our organization already. And if we don’t, well, we wait for Kadri.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
Grabbo still has the potential, despite his performance THIS season.
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
Kaberle trade will net us that #1 centre
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Chemmy threw out the idea a couple of weeks ago of signing Jokinen to a 1 year deal and then shipping him off at the deadline for a 2nd rounder. Makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.
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1st rounder!
give him an assload of PP time so he scores liek 50 goals
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
But that’s banking on the hypothesis that Jokinen is willing to sign a one year deal. I don’t think he goes for that kind of deal as a UFA based on his age.
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maybe
it depends on how much of a market there is for him this summer. I would think a two year deal would be more likely, but again I’m not sure if he’d take anything that short.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, the Leafs can always sign Matt Stajan back. After all, he is a UFA, too.
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please no.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
you keep
forgetting Primeau.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Oh thank heavens for Primeau! I hope Burke signs him to a deal over the summer. He has proven himself as a good 3rd/shutdown line center.
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hopefully shoestring becomes the second part of the leafs nothing line
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Sjostrom – Primeau – Hanson
That’s a pretty decent 3rd line when paired with a shutdown D pairing of Komisarek and Schenn.
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i likes it
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking Sjostrom-Primeau-Stepniak
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think Stempniak gets more of a scoring line chance with Hagman and Stajan gone, rather than checking line duties now.
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hmm yeah, I’d like to see what Hanson could do offensively too
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Defence in 2 years
Dion – Komi
Beauch – Gunnar
Scheen – Aulie
Me likey.
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i think in two years schenn will be where komi is, komi will be where beauch is and beauch will be where schenn is
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
I agree there actually, though I think Beauch could still be there. He has shown ot be really solid.
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yikes, we are officially a donut team.
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PRIMEAU!!!!
When Grabbo is back, one of Wallin/Mitchell is out.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd
because i miss grabs with every ounce of my leaf-loving being.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
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by Likely on Jan 31, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oops, I’m usually so good with them. my bad.
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I’m not sure that one needed a title anyway.
by Leaf in Habland on Jan 31, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
stabby mc stab a lot
he just needs to get all stabby again.
I'm worse than Auger.
by Kerry Fraser on Jan 31, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
I am very very very curious as to what Burke has in mind for Grabbo. Signed to a three year deal – finishing his first year. Wretched first year after a big year last year. Curious.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
all these trades were exhausting
i am so tired
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:04 PM EST reply actions
me too
I need a nap, but there’s still so much excitement.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
this confuses me. Massive Leaf trades like t his would cure any other woe I was facing today.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
You didn’t spend 30 to 40 minutes on your knees in -10 degree weather digging ice out of your tail pipe with a swiss-army knife and praying that the clogged exhaust doesn’t kill your engine first
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 31, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
seriously
I have the worst luck with that thing
it was only 4 months ago that my muffler fell off my car right as I pulled into the parking lot of my office, and had to crawl under my car in the pouring ring so I could duct-tape the damned thing back onto my car so I could limp to a garage to get it fixed…
Ugh
Also I miss Hagman
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 31, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Toskala and Blake are GONE! G-O-N-E!!!!!!1
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
that is too bad.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
You didn’t spend 30 to 40 minutes on your knees
… BCWW
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I’m in bizarro land today, I’m hungover and trying to keep up with all this.
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What a rollercoaster it’s been this weekend!
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
That’s way too true. Last night really was the dark before the dawn! I was ready to pull a DGB after last night’s game.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Who do you think is going to be called up? You guys probably already had this discussion today but I’m slow today.
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I think for now we will only call up Hanson. We will play with Mitchell and Wallin back in the line-up until the break and then maybe call up Stalberg or Tim Questionmark Brent
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Stalberg and Hanson for sure.
Brent and Deveaux are likely.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Forgot Deveaux… i think one of Brent or Deveaux is more likely than Stalberg because of the minuties they’d get (low)
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We're replacing Blake, Hagman, Stajan
and you’re expecting us to call up bottom 6 guys?
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by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Stalberg Isn’t a bottom 6 guy.
We also have grabo coming back
Kuli – Bozak – Kessel
Stalberg – Grabo – Poni
Stemps – Primeau – Hanson
Rosehill – Mitchell – Orr
Not much worse of a forward lineup than we had before today, is it? Just younger.
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Sjostrom
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Oh yeah!
So we don’t call Stalberg up right away, move Stemps up to the 2nd line and Sjostrom takes that spot on the 3rd. Either way, Wallin can sit in the press box.
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Grabbo is still out, so Mitchell takes over the 2nd line center position and Wallin moves to the 4th.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Yeah obviously. Wallin serves that purpose (filling in for an injury) fine, but mid-term we still have as good of a fwd corps as before, but with a better Dman and goaltender, and an added defensive prospect in the system.
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agreed
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Key part = “right now”
I didn’t want to see hags go, but if anyone thought he was more than a stop-gap while we sucked, they were kidding themselves
/starting to be optimistic about the trades
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i agree, but I do think it’s a worse forward lineup than we had before today.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
So?
How is our prior forward lineup the issue with our leage-leading goals against and deplorable PK?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
it’s not but i’m just responding to Shield’s original post.
Not much worse of a forward lineup than we had before today, is it? Just younger.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
Its worse...
But not that much worse, the guys who will be getting more ice time (stemp, mitchell, bozak, stalberg) have the potential to step up and fill the gap.
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I agree, i’m optimistic as well, just saying that I don’t expect them to fill the gap right away, but if they do, that’s awesome.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
I’m kind of making that comment (“not much worse”) in terms of like, if you were a fan of any team other than the leafs, and you looked at both line-ups (pre and post trades), you probably wouldn’t see much difference.
Yes, losing Stajan and Hagman up front is a loss, but it gives Bozak and Stalberg more ice, and allows us to acquire an offensive threat on the blue-line. Plus, what makes me happy about today is getting rid of Blake and Toskalol.
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But really, who gives a shit. As DGB said, this season is over so the team as it stands right now doesn’t matter. It’ll all get shaken up at the deadline and in free agency anyways.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
But we were a lottery team before this trade. How much worse could they be in terms of actual on ice performance?
Should Burke not have made deals that look like they’ll pay off in the future to keep “winning” now?
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Its worse...
But not that much worse, the guys who will be getting more ice time (stemp, mitchell, bozak, stalberg) have the potential to step up and fill the gap.
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It would be hilarious if our goals for went up after all this talk of losing whatever percent of our scoring
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I’d love to see the Leafs win a few 1-0 games.
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by Kerry Fraser on Jan 31, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
again
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
Just need the kids to come through, Kessel to get hot again, and Grabbo to get healthy and all pineapple-stabby and crazy like last season.
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will mr. cherry loves these trades or hate them with a passion?
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 6:10 PM EST reply actions
he’ll love them.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
he loves phaneuf
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
what happens if
semin gets signed by the leafs?
by Skins4ever on Jan 31, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
but now we have paradis city!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
next summer maybe….
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
I would love for the Leafs to sign Semin, but I’m not sure he’s a great fit for many cities. Ovie really makes him feel comfortable and he really fits that temperamental Russian hockey player stereotype.
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Agreed. I don’t think we could afford Semin at any rate. Cap hit would be huge.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
I have no idea what Semin’s status is. I’ve never heard of him being in the mix as a potential Leaf.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Semin signed a one year $5 mill deal for next season. The year after that, UFA.
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Sykora is a UFA. Should Burke throw a little cash at him to shore up the scoring this year?
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by Karina on Jan 31, 2010 6:27 PM EST reply actions
can he sign him just for the rest of this season? if so it’s not the worst idea ever.
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yeah, if he gets released
philly just got krajicek that way (yesterday i think)
by Death_By_Leafs on Jan 31, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
give Jason Allison a ring. Give him $10 for every helmet he rips in two and $100 for each goal.
I'm worse than Auger.
by Kerry Fraser on Jan 31, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
that preseason fight was the funniest shit ever
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
I've been eating family dinner for the past 4 hours
anything new or noteworthy I’ve missed? (I saw the trades already)
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
you wish.
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GO CANUCKS GO!
Now that I've had some time to digest all of this
I think the upside of Phaneuf and White will be a wash. I think the key to the deal is Aulie. If he develops into a shut down guy, we’re better off long term.
As for Giguere, I don’t expect anything major out of him. The Leafs will suck in front of him also, but he gives them a veteran presence and he can mentor Gustavsson which is good.
I’m glad that this opens up more ice time for the kids on the team.
I’ve been eating dinner… not taking ludes…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Ian White is a year older than Phaneuf and is due for a big raise.
I don’t expect Phaneuf to be the next Lidstrom but he’s a better player than Ian White. If we needed to move spare parts (which we wanted gone anyways) to swap White for Phaneuf then it’s a done deal.
Burke wanted to bring in his guys and this let him do that big time. The only JFJ era Leafs on the squad are Poni and Kaberle.
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Wouldn’t really call Kabs a JFJ era player. He was quite serviceable in the Quinn playoff years too.
by unavoidable on Jan 31, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
his current contract is jfj era, that qualifies him
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Giggy could come in and play lights out for us. I think we won the Phaneuf-White gig. Agreed about Aulie though.
I think Giguere
is unlikely to play the lights out. I just want him to mentor Gustavsson.
As for Phaneuf, he has higher upside, but more room for failure than White. He also will cost us a lot more than White was ever going to.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 31, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Giggy unlikely but being reunited with Burkie and the pride the man must have I like to think he could come in and do a helluva job for us. I would hope Gusty would do the job with Giggy as a very expensive mentor and backup. We shall see what we shall see re Gustavsson’s progression or lack thereof.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
I just want
Giguere and Phaneuf and Kessel the kids that get ice time now to come in and play well, so we have some buidling blocks in place for the next couple of years.
The hell with winning at this point, let’s try to drag some positives out of this miserable season.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I hear a lot of things that are not good about Phaneuf. I think he will be very happy to get out of Calgary and provide some very very very serious toughness and truculence and bellicose play on the line. I like him even though yes he is going to cost us a lot more. No idea what his contract status is. Just digesting everything.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
WELL
Mike Brophy doesn’t like the fact the leafs are building around Phaneuf and Kessel… since they haven’t proven they can “lead”.
That makes me like the trade more.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
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"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
OK. Brophy thinks Phaneuf and Kessel can be ’leaders’on this team. I don’t see that happening at all.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Some thoughts about Phaneuf from Calgary
1 – He’s been a Sutter guy since his Red Deer years in junior.
2 – Daaaaarrryyyyyyll goes and signs Bouwmeester in the off-season. Is the writing on the wall hear?
3 – A sub-par season has fans and local media calling for him to be dealt.
Anyone else feel shitty for the guy, like the team totally gave up on him right when he’s entering his prime, because someone “better” just came along? He was their blueline anchor for the last 3 or 4 seasons and was everyone’s favourite here. Now they can’t get him out of town fast enough. Reminds me a bit of Caber, actually.
I would love to see him use this as ammo to re-focus and get his career back on track. He showed he could be a leader on the Flames, despite what Brophy says, and I would love to see that with the Leafs!
Final point, does Exelby give up his #3 or does Dion change it up and take Whitey’s #7 or something?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions
I want XLB to give it up, since he will be gone by March 3rd, though Phaneuf taking the #7 would be cool as well…. my fav defenseman would still be the same number!
Also, who else likes that we have a player on a nationally televised nike commercial (despite the irony that he didn’t end up making team Canada)?
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Yeah,
I admit I mocked him for that. I was tongue-in-cheek about XLB, hopefully he can be dealt tomorrow and it won’t matter. Sjostrom can get his old #21 from the Hitmen back now too!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
I am very optimistic Phaneuf can come in and do one helluva job for us. Will take time for him to be a leader. Hope he develops into one.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t make the Olympic team and now traded to Hockeytown. All the ammo he needs.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
That was my feeling. Phaneuf had a rough season but he got replaced by Bouwmeester.
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Yep
I wasn’t suprised to see him struggle. How motivated could he have been?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
I think the same thing about Giguere actually. His dad passed away and he lost the job to Hiller. Some guys need to be “the guy”.
If Giguere wants to come in and be “the guy” he’s going to put himself in the Hall of Fame.
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Could very well head that way. Cup winner. Conn Smythe winner. Huge motivator and new start for him in Toronto. His pride must have taken a savage beating with the emergence of Hiller. Reunited with Allaire. A beautiful thing.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure JSG isn’t a Hall of Famer already, to be honest. I’d say a Conn Smythe and a Cup is a pretty rare combo.
But Giguere won his Conn Smythe as the losing goaltender…
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The losing part makes it all the more rare and amazing.
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Yeah,
He took a team to the cup finals twice in 4 seasons.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, and a crappy sun-belt team… a player making the hall of fame who played his best years in the OC would be a Bettman wet dream
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does that make hextall a Hall of Famer?
although he didn’t have the cup win.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
I’d say Hextall should be in the hall. The way I look at it is he got his ass whomped on by Felix Potvin and he’ll need something to ice that ego bruise.
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by Chemmy on Jan 31, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
yeah, he could very well be third in line to do the Cujo-Belfour washed up vets to TO thing
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
worst case scenario he is better than toskala
best case, he playes like he can
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Some words on Phaneuf's so called sub-par season
Last year Phaneuf was on the Flames #1 pairing, #1 PP unit, saw over 26 minutes of ice time a game, and was producing a point for every 40 minutes of ice time.
This year Phaneuf was put on the #2 pairing, #2 PP unit, sees an average of 23 minutes of ice time a game, and is producing a point for every 60 minutes of ice time. (Largely due to the diminished PP time)
If you want to blame someone for Phaneuf’s “sub-par” season, blame the Sutters.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 31, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is 100% my point.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Great statistic
I’m trying to be very cautiously optimistic about Phaneuf, but that’s quite an interesting stat. I don’t think he’ll have an issue getting on the #1 PP here.
Prefers pugnacity to truculence.
One timers from Kabs to Phaneuf, with Kessel on the half-boards to draw the defence’s attention… DROOL!
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I has the potential to be a pretty dangerous PP again.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
We lose hagman on the right side, and White as second unit QB (something Beach can do… Beach to Komi is still pretty solid) but gain someone who can bomb shots and open up Phillis
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As long as he doesn’t have to movie the puck. I see him getting a minute or two on the PP a game outside of Beach, Kabs, and Phaneuf in rotation (though now that I think of it, gunnar would be a better choice… fuck)
RETRACT!
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Of course, Gunnar! Thank you, sanity check.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jan 31, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
True but
i’ll have to see it to believe it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 31, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Tuesday night, 2 PP goals which involve at least two of Phaneuf, Kabs, Kessel on each, book it.
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Sheldon Souray fractured wrist. So much for that trade.
Too bad we don’t have a puck moving d-man to trade, probably get a ton for him this week.
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How about Finger? Could Burke fleece Lowe and grab Penner for Finger? Dreaming again. But this is the day I start feeling rosy about Rosehill & Co. again.
put down the crackpipe
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
That is correct. I am not a barn yard animal.
*Swish. Two points.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
I would have been your daddy but that dog beat me over the fence.
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Why was your mom jumping fences?
Getting ready for the Wesminster Show?
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
Your reading comprehension is on par with Jared’s; you should be ashamed of yourself.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
my reading comprehension is just fine thank you!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Holy crap! You read what I wrote? This is a breakthrough! Next week, proper use of punctuation.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
punctuation is for pansies
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Props for the Halo 3 allusion.
Pumps out more male with one thrust of the pelvis than the United States postal service over the last 146 years.
Good news: Montreal fans are pissed
I think this is good. The complaint is: hey Bob Gainey, this is how a real GM works. So that must be good.
My take: The goalie trade is a big win, hands down. Even if Giguere plays as well as he’s been this season (ie not that great) he is still better than Toskala. Blake’s contract is gone—this is good. As a player he was fine, but easily replaceable.
The offence issue is not such a big deal. Most NHL players can score, given the minutes (e.g. Domenic Moore). So I’m sure that if Stempniak gets moved up, he scores a few more. Give Stalberg the chance and he’ll score. Bozak also has the skill. Mitchell has the potential to pick up the slack from Stajan, until Grabbo gets back. Scoring is not our problem. Plus it sounds like Burke is going to pick up some offensive depth with one more trade.
by Leaf in Habland on Jan 31, 2010 7:11 PM EST reply actions
I’m not sure when he’s due back. Was said to miss six weeks with the busted wrist. I just hope he can start playing and more importantly producing half as well as he did last year. Imo he has been a HUGE disappointment this year. Montreal friends been rubbing it in re him all year long. Got his contract and he would disappear was the common refrain. Ugh.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
He might improve now that Stajan is gone… more minutes.
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im pretty sure grabbo was on pace for more goals and points this year than he got last year before he got hurt
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Last year: 72GP, 20G, 28A, 48P
This year: 42GP, 7G, 18A, 25P
When you average that out to 82 games that’s 14G and 36 A for 50 points.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
ah, ok, less goals, more points, whatever
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
These are my sentiments exactly, as witnessed in my comments above with oshrit.
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Scoring IS our problem
just not nearly as much as other parts of our game
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 31, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Scoring IS our problem
might be a problem for you, but i do just fine with the ladies thanks.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
....
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Yeah, everything is our problem, but I mean relatively. Plus, if we can keep the puck out of the net, then maybe we don’t need to score as much.
by Leaf in Habland on Jan 31, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Leaf in Habland reported Habs fans are pissed. A few comments above sir.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Pissed off Habs fans
because the Leafs outdid their team once again is fuckin’ gold.
by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 31, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
It IS golden brown, never a frown with golden brown. Remember that tune? I remember the tune but not the band.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
I’m now somewhat and very cautiously optimistic we can finish ahead of the Canadiens in the reg. season and I will win many many wagers with Montreal friends. Cammalleri hurting himself yesterday was good news. Love Cammy, used to play shinny with him at Chesswood and DoubleRinks but well too bad. He should have signed with us. Bad Cammy.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
It’s early here. Sorry. What is the story on him btw? How long is he out? Do you knnow?
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Got checked by some SNES player
yesterday, dunno how long he’s out.
by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 31, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I saw the hit. Still don’t know how bad it is but prelim reports were that it was very very bad. Tough for the kid.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't be surprised
if he’s done for the season.
by Marc Pilgrim on Jan 31, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
i heard it was his ACL or MCL
Puns, Innuendo and Bad Spelling, Yes We Got That
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad. Never like to see a guy hurt but he IS a Canadien. Good guy though. Played shinny with him and my stepson quite often. Spezza too. And Steve Eminger with the Ducks. Great memories.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
How many of Spezza’s blind back passes did you intercept?
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Alfredsson and the SNES taught him that awful habit.
by Pyramid Power on Jan 31, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
the stranglers
FIRESALE!!!1
WE'VE GOT "FUTURE FIRST LINE CENTERS", "POWER FORWARDS", BASEMENT DWELLER DEALS EVERYTHING MUST GO!
by AkiSchennberg on Jan 31, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone else notice that Suttter didn’t seem too happy in his press conference either? Also, the comments over at Matchsticks and Gasoline aren’t too optimistic either, though most of them don’t understand how great Ian White is.
Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.
sutter never seems happy
Puns, Innuendo and Bad Spelling, Yes We Got That
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Burke likes to trade with Sutter, eh? I wonder what’s up with that.
by Leaf in Habland on Jan 31, 2010 7:20 PM EST reply actions
Kings just scored twice in the final 2 min to beat NJ, 3-2.
Fuck that doughty is good, why didn’t we draft him?
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
yeah, i mean stupid leafs, went and drafted Schenn over him!
Puns, Innuendo and Bad Spelling, Yes We Got That
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 31, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
because he’s fat and out of shape.. remember, his conditioning wasn’t up to par and he wouldn’t be able to handle nhl level play…
FIRESALE!!!1
WE'VE GOT -FUTURE FIRST LINE CENTERS- , "POWER FORWARDS", BASEMENT DWELLER DEALS EVERYTHING MUST GO!
by AkiSchennberg on Jan 31, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
What a glorious day!
Schenn + Phaneuf = Bash Bros.
Allaire + Giggy + Monster = the trilogy of the giant butterfly
FIRESALE!!!1
WE'VE GOT "FUTURE FIRST LINE CENTERS", "POWER FORWARDS", BASEMENT DWELLER DEALS EVERYTHING MUST GO!
we're also rodent free!
oooh happy day
FIRESALE!!!1
WE'VE GOT -"FUTURE FIRST LINE CENTERS"- , "POWER FORWARDS", BASEMENT DWELLER DEALS EVERYTHING MUST GO!
by AkiSchennberg on Jan 31, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
If Kabby gets traded and Poni Walks
the longest tenured leaf property will be John Fucking Mitchell (by a loooong ways)
Acquired by the Leafs on July 28th 2005…
Burke is knocking them off one at a time
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 31, 2010 8:28 PM EST reply actions
A fond farewell
to the ice, as seen by Jason Blake:
by Wan Ihite on Jan 31, 2010 8:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hey, more questions from an ignorant Caps fan:
- What do the Leafs’ lines and pairings project out to for next year, assuming no more moves? I assume y’all expect Nazem Kadri to break the lineup. Stempniak, Ponikarovsky, Primeau and Wallin are all UFAs — do you want any of them back?
- I keep hearing mentions of this guy named Tim Brent. Who the fuck is he?
Cheers
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jan 31, 2010 10:14 PM EST reply actions
If Kadri breaks the lineup either he’s turned into a superhuman player or we’re boned. We’re all excited to see Kadri but most of us think he needs at least a year in the AHL to develop.
Don’t care about Wallin, he’s been invisible. Depending on the cap hit, and assuming they don’t bring back a great return in a trade, I’d be OK with the other three coming back. Stempy and Poni can score (which after these trades we don’t have a ton of) and Primeau is a decent 3rd liner/PK guy.
Tim Brent is on our AHL team, the Marlies. He was a piece in another trade, no one seemed to know much about him. Thus the “Who the fuck is Tim Brent?” meme was born!
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
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