Islanders at Leafs: Youth and Speed
by Chemmy on Oct 18, 2010 12:55 PM EDT
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Despite being picked to finish in the basement they're leading their division. Old veterans have been moved out and a GM's vision is becoming clearer on the ice. Youngsters are assuming bigger roles and are fast and hungry. This year's iteration looks like it would mop the floor with last year's iteration and fans are ecstatic.
Sound familiar? I'm talking about the New York Islanders. They lead the Atlantic Division having flattened Colorado 5-2 on Saturday night. Josh Bailey is playing like a man possessed after looking for so long like a decent shutdown center.
Where the Leafs are deep and solid on defense the Islanders have two goaltenders who can steal the show. In terms of high end offensive talent I don't think John Tavares is as good as Phil Kessel is today (though that may change in a few years).
Forget about winnable games; the Islanders are playing like they're going to join the middle of the Eastern Conference (which is where the Leafs are trying to get to). This could be an important game for two young teams that would be plenty happy with that #8 spot in the East.
Last year's Leafs team would blow this game tonight: "soft" opponent at home early in the week on Leafs TV. Let's hope these Leafs understand that they could make everyone forget about a great start in a hurry with one single dud game. The media, both National and in Toronto, are writing their joke articles about how good the Leafs are but know that after loss one the headlines will read "Exposed" or "The Bubble Bursts". There are 78 games left and the Leafs have to keep playing like they are to have a chance at playing at least four more.
Roster notes:
Jean-Sebastien Giguere starts for the Leafs against Dwayne Roloson and his 0.929 SV% (gulp). Brett Lebda is in for Carl Gunnarsson.
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Strange to think that the Islanders would be the biggest test of the early season for the Leafs, eh?
Given all the restrictions Garth Snow has to work with, especially budgetary, I think he’s done a good job as GM.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
especially considering what he had to start with makes the mess JFJ left look like a minor inconvenience
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
And he always has a Wang looking over his shoulder.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
by bkblades on Oct 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The passion and level of interest he has is something to behold. His wishes for public funding in a highly convoluted area in state politics is what’s getting him railroaded.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
the politicians in long island are the ones royally screwing the team.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
Sounds like it. Just briefly reading the reports and not finding the numerous contradictions and hypocrisy in one passage is an adventure in futility.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Crazy
and controlling?
no thanks.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Wang has been overly controlling since Snow took over. Snow clearly has a budget to work with, and he works within it.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah he’s actually been pretty hands off except for the DP contract.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
I was just under the impression that he hasn’t trusted previous GMs until Snow.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't Charles Wang
pressuring governement on approval of his bid to build a giant entertainment complex around the Islanders stadium?
He’s threatened to move the team if the lighthouse project isn’t approved by Nassau county, and he under-reported half of his cable revenue for the 2003 season according to Forbes magazine in order to make the franchise appear poorer than it is.
He’s stated in public that he REGRETS buying the team, and would choose to not do so again if it came up.
How is that great owner behaviour?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He has certainly threatened to move on numerous occasions; not very classy at all.
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Local government has jerked him around at every turn. He’s getting even.
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I thought that he saved the Pens – thats why Pitts. loves him, no?
Its about time we stopped refining; rebuilding and finally worked with what we have.
thought so, it’s a matter of bargaining and leverage. Wang, like a few other posts here mentioned, is a good owner, probably one of the better ones in any major sports. But you can’t expect him to lose money or not want to make some money off improvements around his investment … I’d strong arm the gov too if given his circumstances.
umm
He always wanted to keep the Pens in Pitt. Obviously the new arena helped, so he wanted it, but IIRC he never threatened to move the team himself
"It reminded me a lot of when I was in Pittsburgh and we were growing together as a group. The Leafs are going through the same thing" - Colby Armstrong
You are the Picasso of Google News.
Honest question to which I don’t know the answer: has Pittsburgh supported Penguins teams not led by Lemieux or Crosby?
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by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
My initial search indicates maybe not.
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by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, that’s pretty piss-poor.
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by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
But he still wanted the team in Pittsburgh, which is why all those people (Balsille, lol) failed. He got lucky when the arena came and they drafted Sid so people came to the games, but if all that didn’t happen I’m sure he wouldn’t have moved.
"It reminded me a lot of when I was in Pittsburgh and we were growing together as a group. The Leafs are going through the same thing" - Colby Armstrong
That’s literally not what he said.
Wang is doing exactly the same thing as Lemieux.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
This is where I’m coming from:
Sources told TSN the deal started to fall apart a week ago, when the $175-million transaction was supposed to officially close. Balsillie, sources say, balked at a lengthy list of terms and conditions, one of which included keeping the franchise in Pittsburgh under any circumstances.
"It reminded me a lot of when I was in Pittsburgh and we were growing together as a group. The Leafs are going through the same thing" - Colby Armstrong
that was the leagues’ list of terms and conditions, not Lemieux’s…
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by blurr1974 on Oct 18, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Lemieux was the one who got into bed with Balsillie, right?
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
creepy images
/covers eyes
"It reminded me a lot of when I was in Pittsburgh and we were growing together as a group. The Leafs are going through the same thing" - Colby Armstrong
not sure about Balsille
but this makes it pretty clear:
Lemieux issued a statement yesterday, turning up the heat on Pittsburgh officials by saying the team was no longer for sale and would explore its relocation options.
‘’After seven years of trying to work out a new arena deal exclusively in Pittsburgh, we need to take into consideration the long-term viability of the team and begin discussions with other cities that may be interested in N.H.L. teams,’’ he said in the statement.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I particularly enjoyed Bettman's response to this statement
‘’The future of this franchise in Pittsburgh is uncertain, and the Penguins now will have to explore all other options, including possible relocation,’’ Bettman said in a statement. ‘’The N.H.L. will support the Penguins in their endeavors.’’
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
They should’ve just moved to Waterloo or Kitchener or whatever
"It reminded me a lot of when I was in Pittsburgh and we were growing together as a group. The Leafs are going through the same thing" - Colby Armstrong
Nobody willingly moves to Kitchener/Waterloo
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sure, if you like living in a place that is three places at once
madness i say MADNESS
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
EVER. NEVER DO IT.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
phrased it wrong
I wanted them to stay in Pittsburgh but Balsille getting a team in the first place would’ve made the Coyotes thing less weird
.. still doesn’t make sense.. forget it
"It reminded me a lot of when I was in Pittsburgh and we were growing together as a group. The Leafs are going through the same thing" - Colby Armstrong
Long Island Government’s lack of class is a given.
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The reason he’s pressuring the government is because local politicians are undermining the project. The building of the complex would actually be good for the local economy in long island.
He publically stated that he regretted buying the team because they’ve lost so much money.
He’s a pretty solid owner, aside from the one season where he under-reported income (ALOT of teams do things like this), yes most franchises would kill to have an owner who cares as much as he does.
Futhermore, a little deeper research would’ve enlightened you to these facts.
Instead you spouted off after the first Google search you did and tried to sound like Steve ‘the factmaster’ Burtch, and invalidate all other points.
I’m really starting to sicken of your ‘correct at all costs’ attitude and frankly it demeans this site.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
by ohshrit on Oct 18, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I follow the Lighthouse a little bit, doesn’t Wang want to pay for the entire thing out of his own pocket?
I think the only opposition is from suburban NIMBY folks who keep calling for traffic studies.
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From what I understand, Wang has invested millions of his own dollars in the development of this project, and yes did want to pay for it all.
It’s current local politicians who want taxpayer money to instead pay for renovations to the coliseum (which you and I can agree, having been there, is a fucking dump), instead of starting new development.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
The smoke stained ceiling is a nice touch
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody said
he wasn’t willing to pay for it, although he did reduce it in scope once already, and I personally don’t know if that was a result of his issuse in getting it approved or because he was concerned about the cost to him personally or other investors.
Another point with all of this is, developments of this sort have a history of not providing the returns stated in the original planning. A good example might be the arena builds that were done in Glendale Arizona, or in Tampa Bay… the idea of a huge entertainment complex is a great one, but if it’s in an area people think of as a “dump” or out of the way, they’re not likely to suddenly change their habits and head in that direction.
Also, why is it we think Wang is unique in the pantheon of NHL owners when it comes to asking for gov’t handouts? He hasn’t asked for any yet, but since I don’t think any of us are aware of the details of the deal he’s trying to build, how can we know what the property valuation, etc. is being pegged at.
I don’t actually have particulars (admittedly – though I don’t recall saying I do), but does Wang already own all the land he wants to develop? Has he convinced the local stakeholders it would be a good thing?
Frankly it isn’t a hard thing to get city councillors onside if they’re going to benefit from something and someone else is going to pay for it. If the locals don’t want the injection of money there’s probably a reason for it, even if it does come off as NIMBY.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m done arguing this with you because everything I end up saying you’ll attempt to refute individually while ignoring the point about Wang being a good owner.
In the process you’ll take a holier than thou attitiude and be unwilling to ever admit that you might be wrong.
That alone is the reason for the personal attacks, your lack of humilty and willingness to admit that someone else might be right, is a shitty attitude to have and i know i’m not the only one on this site that thinks so.
We’re all entitled to our opinion, except the grown ups here can admit that they’re not always right.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
by ohshrit on Oct 18, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'm not being holier than thou here
you are… I’m not attacking you… I’m raising some issues that may or may not reflect on his ownership.
Getting annoyed that I disagree with you is easy to fix… don’t respond.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Where oh where
are you admitting that you might be wrong?
Holier than thou… example 2.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally attacking someone
is an even shittier attitude to have… also relying on the whole “me and my friends don’t like you so stop arguing with me” on a public site is amazingly petty.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooooook
This is enough of this from both of you.
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I'm out
and apologies for ruining the tone of the discourse.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
in this example I’m not,
but across this site, there are many examples where I can admit it.
You? not so much.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
by ohshrit on Oct 18, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You do realize
arguing any absolute negative is virtually impossible right?
I can find one example where I admit I’m wrong and your whole point is invalidated… but yeah…
this is obviously not a situation where you’re going to change your mind…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t respond.
Bingo.
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Except you....
the grown ups here can admit that they’re not always right.
apparently. Rude.
by Ellabella27 on Oct 18, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Looking forward to it!
Looooong time creeper here :)
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Thanks for joining. Sorry for the slap fest.
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If he’s willing to pay for it and the only thing standing in his way is people in the suburbs saying it’ll ruin traffic in the area I don’t think him saying “let me pay for this stadium or I’ll move” makes him a bad owner.
He’s not asking for handouts as far as I can tell so saying that he’ll profit is irrelevant. If owners didn’t stand to profit from them pro sports wouldn’t exist.
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Wow
personal attack much?
The lighthouse project has been in the news for years, and so have the threats about him moving the team. For him to move the franchise he’d theoretically have to run that through the NHL board of governors and I don’t think they’re interested in that happening at this point given their current state of affairs… particularly moving a team OUT of a lucrative television market like NY, in order to take it to the promised land of KC or Oklahoma City.
I understand WHY he regrets buying the team, and I know he feels he’s being undermined by the incessant delays of local politics, but frankly I don’t see what he’s doing to improve the situation. He already modified the bid once to reduce it’s scope and cost… but bitching in the press isn’t getting things done obviously. He could theoretically upgrade the facility without building out a huge development in the surrounding acreage and frankly I don’t think he’s willing to do that.
Let’s call it what it is and admit that he wants to profit from the whole deal… he isn’t as magnanimous as we’re making him out to be, and the guy has been in the press for OTHER work-related dealings aside from his control of the Isles. I don’t think there’s any reason for ad hominem attacks in all of this.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s call it what it is and admit that he wants to profit from the whole deal
That’s the point of business, yes.
He wants to pay for it himself, where’s the issue here? Why no outrage for the Steinbrenners taking a billion dollars from NY taxpayers to keep the Yankees in the Bronx?
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Outrage isn't the issue
I just don’t think he’s any more or any less than the other NHL owners… he hasn’t done much to prove he’s a saint is all I’m saying.
Spending money on a losing franchise doesn’t particularly impress me (I suppose I’m unique in that regard?).
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
No but we deal with incessant griping
about the “pension plan puppets”?
Profit is good in some instances and bad in others? I thought the reason he’s being touted as a great owner is because he’s spending his own money to keep a losing team afloat… and he wants to build out a complex in the area (which has yet to happen after YEARS of planning).
Does him losing money make him a great person?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Like it has been said repeatedly what makes him a great owner is that he wants to fund it from his own money without robbing from the government like so many other owners in the NHL.
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In the context of “do fans like their owner” yes it does.
He doesn’t want to leave Long Island but can’t get them to let him build his own privately funded stadium. What’s he supposed to do?
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he’s making a whole hearted attempt to keep the team there. IF the local government won’t help, there’s nothing else he can do but be forced to move. He’s taking the steps that will allow him to based on the NHL boards rules.
by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 18, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. He can either sell the team at a massive loss or move the team to a more lucrative location.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
he’s covering his bases so if he can’t get a deal here, he can show the BOG that he’s put in a good faith effort to keep the team there.
by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 18, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This has been going for how long now? I’m sure the BOG would allow him to move the team if it meant they would be viable.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Oh for sure, I think he’s going to try to fully exhaust the Lighthouse project before he REALLY considers re-location. His business and household and all that is in Long Island so I’m sure he’d rather have the team close by.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Oct 18, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Garth Snow has done an excellent job as a GM. I think he probably should have slid more ELCs a year (this year will be a head scratcher if he doesn’t return Niederreiter) but he’s done a good job developing kids and bringing in high draft picks.
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Nope, Not only that, this is the final year in which he will be the team’s highest paid “player”
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
wait
so the Islanders will actually have to spend money on current players next year?
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by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Give the Islanders another two years of lottery picks and I think they have a solid core in Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, de Haan, Hamonic. Then they’ll have a metric asston of cap space and despite a crummy arena they’re close to NYC which is a draw for UFAs.
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What is the conversion from asston to metric asston again? Slipped my mind.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 18, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
right, thanks.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Even though we’re metric in Canada, some measurements just don’t convert well.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry folks
Tavares either won’t play or will suck. I’m starting him on my fantasy pool team.
Me four.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 18, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really. Only half my team is playing tonight, so it’s not like I have many other options.
I also have Gigs on my team, so I half want Tavares to post a hat trick, including a shorty, only to lose 5-3, and I half want the leafs to shut them out.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 18, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, Chemmy, they wrote those “Bubble burst” articles last week and are just waiting to fill in the name of the opposing team.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
by Ubiquitous on Oct 18, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn’t be making fun of the Islanders just yet. I don’t think we’re going to win this game (pause for laughter). No, I’m serious. Rollie plays us tough – I had the misfortune of watching the Leafs pepper 61 shots on him last and still lose.
by scott tubbesing on Oct 18, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
Is someone here making fun of the Islanders?
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No one here is laughing at the Isles
In fact, they have been playing well and I’m worried the streak will end tonight. Just like this isn’t the Leafs of last year, this isn’t the Isles of last year either.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Oct 18, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Giguere and the defense need to be on tonight
The Islanders have 18 goals scored in just 5 games; good for 2nd best in the league behind only Chicago who has 20 GF in 6 games. This has all of the makings to be a ridiculous 6-5 game; or a total goalie dual ending at 1-0.
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Unfortunately
Giguere hasn’t been on yet… he’s got a sub .900 EV SV%.
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by Steve Burtch on Oct 18, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s somewhere between “end of the world” and “completely horrible”.
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Brodeur is doing worse
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by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 18, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
So his ranking is a Howard Berger column?
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
It’s noteworthy that Slava Duris didn’t even mark two of the three Rangers goals as “scoring chances”. Because they really weren’t.
Giguere can and I am confident he will play better.
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by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone Chill out
Lebda’s playing tonight.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Oct 18, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
aww hamburgers!
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by A Lindros Jaw on Oct 18, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s hoping that Roloson starts regressing to his true talent level in 5…4…3…2…
by Shift on Oct 18, 2010 1:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
True talent level? http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/r/rolosdw01.html
09-10 0.907
08-09 0.915
07-08 0.901
06-07 0.909
05-06 0.908
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I thought the same thing, but I think Shift’s point is “not .929.”
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
He’s been a solid goaltender, even behind crummy defense, for an awfully long time. .929 small sample from a goalie like that doesn’t make me think “intensely unsustainable”.
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3-2 leafs
will be a close one
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by Future_considerations on Oct 18, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
With Kessel and MacArthur on pace to score in every game (right, every member of the media who has made that joke?) we should be guaranteed victory as long as we do not give up more than a goal.
In all seriousness, as long as the players remember they are not the only team playing well above where they finished last year, we should be OK. I concur with the thoughts about it being a close game, though. Fancy Dion to pot his first tonight.
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Although I hope they Isles lose tonight, I still have some respect for this.
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that is pretty sweet
i don’t mind the islanders usually..I like thier logo also.
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Ticketmaster:
Section 104 row F $161.95
Stubhub:
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Oops. 104 A is in Montreal, not New York. (lol)
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Yes, any day of the week
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I would if I lived a little closer. It’s about an hour and fifteen minutes to get there.
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you guys are in NY too?
Did you hit up the leafs game friday night?
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No, my buddy has seasons to the Rangers and normally sells them to me but he wanted to go to the home opener.
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6 years from now there’s a damn good chance i’ll end up living in CT.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
probably not stamford,
somewhere else within commuting distance to NYC, quiet, suburban.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
Commuting sucks. 1.5 hours on the train: oh boy.
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It’s like $350 a month for train tickets and New Canaan isn’t cheaper than Manhattan.
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but i’d have a backyard, and a grill.
The only viable alternative is somewhere in westchester.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
There are other towns in Fairfield Co. that are nice and more affordable. Hell, Norwalk and Stamford have some great spots too.
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You pay for the nice parts of Norwalk and Stamford just like Darien, Greenwich, New Canaan and Westport.
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Guess I wasn’t aware that it was quite New Canaan/Greenwich money. Admittedly, I’ve never shopped for real estate in the area.
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
For regular people it’s all roughly equivalent. New Canaan and Greenwich have some hysterical high end offerings that Norwalk doesn’t.
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Backyard and a grill sure, but you’ll spend three hours a day on the train and you’ll have severely reduced access to dining and culture options.
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I’d live in the city if I worked there.
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Emphasis on the if, Chemmy’s right it is like a Manhattan in Fairfield County, as is Greenwich for that matter.
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG no! Stay away! Do you like culture? Do you like having things to do? Do you hate annoying rich people? Then don’t move up to CT.
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Ya, I got the fuck out, but mosty for the latter reason.
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I attained this moniker several years later.
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i’d kill to be an annoying rich person
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by blurr1974 on Oct 18, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
interestingly, I think assassins often become rich.
You can add the annoying yourself.
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by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i already have!
added the annoying part I mean. That actually comes naturally for me…
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by blurr1974 on Oct 18, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
No Shit
Lived in New Canaan for my High School/Middle School years
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Small world indeed, sounds like an interesting gig. I never went to Winter Club myself, we’d go to Twin Rinks on the rare occasion we skated.
by fatassjackson on Oct 18, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. You going to be at the game tonight?
Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?
Long drive to Toronto from NYC…
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When I read this in your profile:
After a three year hiatus, I have recently rejuvenated my fanaticism by following PPP.
I smile.
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Me too.
Thanks… you guys are great here
Its about time we stopped refining; rebuilding and finally worked with what we have.
Hm. I like the way they think. Has anyone ever spent much time at the Islanders SBN blog? I never hear anything about them.
Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?
I think that’s the plan after reading one of Chemmy’s comments over there
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to field trip it, but i can’t comment there until tomorrow :(
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same here,
dont have my permissioin slip to go :(
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by Future_considerations on Oct 18, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Same. I just joined. I think they’re a team I’m going to keep an eye on this year.
Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?
GAME THREAD FIELD TRIP NOTE
This user:
PSUdevon
Is unreasonable, a pain in the ass, and the origin of the “my dad is 6’5” and can beat up your dad" meme.
Ignore every single one of his comments tonight. Do not engage is a race to the bottom with him please.
Thanks.
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They do
But he’s good in their community but doesn’t play nice with others and we promised Dom you guys could handle having the 24 hr waiting period waived.
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where do you get that crazy idea?
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by blurr1974 on Oct 18, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
24 hour waiting period still in effect; at least it was for me.
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by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Should’ve joined EVERY single team’s blogs like I did last game. Just do it now, so you don’t have to next time.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Oct 18, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
by ignore
you mean regale him with facts and make him look even more stupid with every chance i get?
Ok, if you say so.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 18, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
amazing
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by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
you know what's better
JARED OF LONDON!!!
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
by ohshrit on Oct 18, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
I am way prettier than that fug shit sandwich munching pedometer powered ass mobile
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i know, but I couldn’t use a real picture of you on the site, like a gaze from schenn it would cause too many unintended pregnancies.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
at least you didnt use Jared Leto
next time use Jared Padalecki though
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he actually threaten to sick his dad on us?
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
here’s the thread in all it’s glory
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by blurr1974 on Oct 18, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
I actually stopped by that night (checked my profile to be sure) but I completely missed that guys’ comments
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha, loved the Penn State rips you used on him blurr, that guy’s something else
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone give article1 a medal for that?
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by PassivelyTruculent on Oct 18, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry guys but anyone know how i can post/reply on another blog? (i.e. lighthouse)
Its about time we stopped refining; rebuilding and finally worked with what we have.
They were supposed to have waived the 24 hr waiting period but it hasn’t come through yet.
And remember, don’t feed PSUDevon.
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by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously. we’re talking about the fuckin’ apocalypse here.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 18, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Well this should be interesting to see
emlaudi: Rick DiPietro sporting #Pink goalie equipment for the #Leafs and #Islanders game! excited to see them in action
20 miles to Legoland!
He may or may not. Botta said he needed more time to break them in before wearing them for a game.
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I think Rolie is starting
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So this now begs the question...
Will DiPietro wear the pink pads on the bench knowing they’re not broken in yet?
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess he is wearing pink, even if he's not playing
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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 18, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
A shot of him in pink pads.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyislanders/5093881798/
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
Dominik has earned my eternal respect for his response to this fanpost over at Lighthouse. Basically, our friend Damo took a cheap shot at the Isles and a reader thought Cox was a proxy for Leafs fans. Dominik set him straight pretty quickly.
I wish I was active over there just so I could thank him.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
Well done
I did have to laugh at the self-centredness of the OP who thought ‘78 and ’02 vs Isles were our two biggest playoff wins since ’67. Just since ’92 I’d put Wings and Blues ’93, Sharks ’94, all four Sens wins, Flyers, all above beating the Isles.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I still really really hate Steve Webb.
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by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too. It was a nasty series, but it can’t compare emotionally for me with the ones I listed above. I’ll put it above our first rounder in ’94 (who was that—Chicago?).
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No idea.
And I also barely remember who else was even on that Islanders team except for Steve Webb.
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by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice job dropping knowledge over at the Lighthouse.
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by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems like fans of every team think we’ve been horrible forever, when it’s only been since the lockout. I love daoust’s post.
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by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too, it’s invaluable.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
ya they conviently forget that from 99 through the lockout year we are one of the top 5 teams in playoff games played. Remember ESPN mentioning that during the playoffs in the Philly/Leafs series. People seem to forget that most of the 90’s were were good, other than the two Mike Murphy Years and pre-Gilmour trade.
by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 18, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Peca!
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by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Did they have Yashin?
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by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. And Shawn fucking Bates.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 18, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The 2002 series against the Islanders was the most fun series I’ve ever watched.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh. I’ll take any series v. Ottawa, since my best friend is a Snes fan.
Also, any of the 4 series wins from either run in 93 or 94 will do too.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 18, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well more important would have to go to the Sens series in the second round of 02, as well as every series in 92-93 and 93-94. I just thought the Isles series was hella fun to watch.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh certainly it was. Not demeaning it’s entertainment value. Pretty sure DGB reviewed it as the most physical series of all time.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 18, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
The home team won every single game. That was pretty cool, too.
Not to mention there so many injuries, both teams were fielding quite a few AHLers with no NHL experience.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 18, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t even remember my last field trip to Long Island, but apparently I was there.
Seeing references to Blake and Toskala depress me, and make me wonder how i watched such a team.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 18, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
Also, a prophetic comment from our last game thread
This was re: Matt Stajan being a terrible no. 1 centre:
I’m sure Calgary’s had worse
by Theodles on Dec 9, 2009 5:32 PM PST up actions
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by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 18, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions
Grrrr
Tonight’s game is on Leafs TV which means I have to watch it downstairs with my laptop actually on my lap. Damn.
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Life can be hard.
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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 18, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
On a happier note the Rogers HD box is downstairs so I’ll be able to read players names tonight. An acceptable trade-off I suppose.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 18, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Centre Ice! New HD PVR! Ready for out-of-market Leafs awesomeness!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 18, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
So our 24-hour wait period gets waived?
Props on the diplomacy, PPP. I’m looking forward to this field trip!
Perhaps Dominik is going to fix it later, but mine still says I need to wait.
Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?
We’re in.
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by The '67 Sound on Oct 18, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Just got in too
Its about time we stopped refining; rebuilding and finally worked with what we have.
The Ministry of Commentary's Committe on Party Applications has now waived the waiting period
Cheers and you’re welcome and all such things that apply to those who have reached out to me. (Not trying to sound rushed but I’m…well, rushed.)
Have fun tonight. Please don’t Tucker my Peca! (And while we’re recalling ’02 — god that suddenly seems so LONG ago! — can we at least agree Corson is maybe just a wee bit tooly?)
To all some good hockey, and to hockey a good night.
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by Dominik on Oct 18, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Corson was a huge tool.
But man I’ve never seen another guy be as good at shadowing stars as him.
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by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t he sleep with Almo’s wife?
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by PassivelyTruculent on Oct 18, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
dunno
though that sounds really gross
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by Karina on Oct 18, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure that would piss off Grover, enough to make him punch him in the face.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Oct 18, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Doug Smail’s the best I’ve seen outside of Esa Tikkanen. Gretzyky started taking shots at him with less than 2 mins to go in a playoff game vs Winnipeg. Got a 2 min for roughing and the gate.
by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 18, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
can we at least agree Corson is maybe just a wee bit tooly?
Stamped, approved.
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by A Lindros Jaw on Oct 18, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont see anything tooly about trying to kick a guy during a fight…
/shifty eyes
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by Hi, my name is Pavol, its nice Demitra. on Oct 18, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys rock!
I am soo happy to see you the leafs win like this…I wish you guys the best and win win win . I would love to see you guys in the stanley cup. I miss Steeger hope he is doing good , I haven’t heared much of him since he left. Hawks Vs Leafs Stanley Cup would be soo awsome for the NHL.
Thanks, good luck yourself. Personally, I hope Stalberg works out for you guys. I saw he had one beauty of a goal already.
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by A Lindros Jaw on Oct 18, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
I’ve always had a soft spot for the Hawks, and, among last year’s team, Versteeg was definitely one of my favourites. I was beyond ecstatic to have him come to the Leafs.
As for how he’s doing now, he’s playing on our 1st line with Tyler Bozak and Phil Kessel, getting some decent PP and PK minutes, and has 2 pts. in 4 games; not amazing, but he’ll get there. His speed is unreal; even in giving up a speedy guy like Stalberg for him, I’m amazed how fast he is.
Hopefully, Stalberg comes along well. I’d love to see him get more than 4th line minutes. Guy’s got some serious top 6 potential.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 18, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I know this is more an FTB issue, but noone’s reading that anymore…
The following Leafs who were on our opening day roster last year have combined for 8 points in 30 games so far:
Hagman
Stajan
White
Stempniak
Poni
Stalberg
Blake
That of course excludes guys like Primeau, Exelby, Wallin, Mayers and Rosehill who aren’t in the NHL.
And we wonder why we’re having a better start to the year…
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nice fun fact
I think it would be interesting to see where those players were in our line up during opening night last season/most of last year and where they are in the line ups of their new teams.
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by Hi, my name is Pavol, its nice Demitra. on Oct 18, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
We got Versteeg, Sjostrom, and Phaneuf back in those deals. They have combined for 5 points in 4 games.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
5/12 = 0.41 PPG
8/30 = 0.26 PPG
Tells you all you need to know. Not to mention other guys like Tim Brent, Clarke MacArthur, etc.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 18, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
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