So Who Drives Production?
On the surface, most Leaf fans would argue Phil Kessel. He leads the team with 5 goals and 7 points, and he's definitely the team's most highly skilled offensive forward. Tyler Bozak is the Leaf's nominal top centre ice man, and Kris Versteeg the team's best "2-way" forward. But a look at statistics that indicate some other qualities of play leave a bit to be desired. Maybe it's just the Leafs depth that's doing the damage in this early season run of productivity?
Following the Leafs game on Monday against the Islanders, after the first 5 games of the season, Mikhail Grabovski (34.2) and Clarke MacArthur (32.0) had the 6th and 7th highest Relative Corsi numbers in the NHL amongst forwards that have played 12+ minutes a game over at least 5 games. Nikolai Kulemin (30.6) at 21st in the NHL isn't far behind. They also all have a reasonably difficult Corsi Rel QoC to face up against.
Their peer group includes the following NHL 2 way forwards (listed numbers are for 5 on 5 play):
| Name | Team | Corsi ON | Corsi Off | Corsi Rel | Corsi Rel QoC |
| Stoll | Kings | 29.12 | -4.05 | 33.2 | 0.107 |
| Williams | Kings | 28.68 | -5.14 | 33.8 | 0.361 |
| Zetterberg | Red Wings | 25.59 | -5.48 | 31.1 | 0.577 |
| Grabovski | Maple Leafs | 25.39 | -8.83 | 34.2 | 0.099 |
| Datsyuk | Red Wings | 25.19 | -5.52 | 30.7 | 0.890 |
| D. Sedin | Canucks | 24.33 | -3.75 | 28.1 | 2.616 |
| MacArthur | Maple Leafs | 23.98 | 8.04 | 34.2 | 0.173 |
| Semin | Capitals | 20.89 | -3.14 | 24.0 | 1.887 |
| Comeau | Islanders | 20.27 | -15.13 | 35.4 | 1.255 |
| Van Riemsdyk | Flyers | 19.54 | 0.91 | 18.6 | 0.120 |
| H. Sedin | Canucks | 19.43 | -1.93 | 21.4 | 2.607 |
| Connolly | Sabres | 17.21 | 0.84 | 16.4 | 0.279 |
| Kulemin | Leafs | 15.59 | -4.76 | 20.4 | 0.356 |
| M. Koivu | Wild | 14.70 | -14.11 | 29.9 | 3.160 |
| Backstrom | Capitals | 14.39 | -1.69 | 16.1 | 2.552 |
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Ducks | 14.65 | -17.42 | 22.1 | 2.667 |
At the opposite end of the spectrum are Phil Kessel, Tyler Bozak, and Kris Versteeg:
| Name | Team | Corsi ON | Corsi Off | Corsi Rel | Corsi Rel QoC |
| Downie | Lightning | 0.99 | 14.34 | -13.30 | 1.730 |
| Kane | Blackhawks | -3.43 | -7.40 | -8.03 | 1.786 |
| Weiss | Panthers | -7.17 | 11.14 | -18.30 | 1.272 |
| Kessel | Maple Leafs | -10.14 | 6.07 | -16.20 | 0.919 |
| O'Sullivan | Hurricanes | -11.02 | 6.73 | -17.80 | 1.538 |
| Bozak | Maple Leafs | -17.10 | 10.26 | -27.40 | 1.362 |
| Versteeg | Maple Leafs | -17.62 | 10.11 | -27.70 | 1.575 |
| Sutter | Hurricanes | -31.36 | 3.70 | -35.10 | 1.025 |
| Tavares | Islanders | -43.40 | 0.00 | -43.40 | 0.756 |
This isn't particularly worrying as obviously Bozak, Kessel, and Versteeg are on the ice to produce offensively, but it does illustrate the greener side of the trio's game at 5 on 5. Versteeg's defensive skill set isn't compensating for the lack of defensive acumen on the part of Bozak and Kessel in their own zone. The trio are sacrificing far more shots than they are obtaining, and that IS of some concern.
If one follows the two lines during the regular run of play, it becomes relatively obvious where this situation stems from. When Kessel, Bozak, and Versteeg are on the ice, they often end up playing in their own zone without the puck, but they will occasionally break out as the puck is head-manned to them as they quickly break up ice. The young speedy trio then race ahead full of vim and vigour, and (often in the form of a breakaway or two-on-one) they tend to fire a quick shot in the direction of the net. This shot has often gone wide, or ended up as a quick save for the opposition, with little to no rebounds. They don't drive the net, they're undersized, and they don't play the puck down low particularly effectively. When they do shoot, it is often a very obvious, clear cut chance, but it is also rarely the sort of chance that comes off of a broken play. It doesn't help that the top line were totally dominated in the game against Pittsburgh or that the NY Rangers actually didn't seem that perturbed by them as a unit.
As a result of this, their puck possession is typically sacrificed to the other team. Alternatively, with the Leafs second unit, while they too also get offensive breaks down ice, they are far, far more effective at controlling the zone offensively. They play most of their shifts in the opposition end and tend to fire numerous chances on net, although to be fair, a lot of those haven't been going in. If they miss the net, or if the play breaks down, they also pressure the puck well enough to often get it back before it leaves the zone. The Grabovski, Kulemin, MacArthur line is quick, but it also possesses more size and physicality so they tend to dominate possession when they're on the ice in some part because they're facing weaker opposition. This was most obvious against the softer second unit of Pittsburgh who had a hard time containing the Leafs secondary trio.
How can we verify any of this in another fashion? By exploring the Zone Shift numbers for both lines so far. The three skaters on the top unit have the following Zone Shift numbers:
Kessel (-6), Bozak (-11), Versteeg (-13)
This means that with respect to shift starts and finishes, they are generally finishing off shifts in their own end, despite beginning the majority of their shifts in the offensive end. Again, on the other side of the coin is the line of MacArthur, Grabovski, and Kulemin, who are posting the following Zone Shift numbers, despite starting more shifts in the defensive zone than the offensive zone:
MacArthur (+7), Grabovski (+12), Kulemin (+8)
This indicates that generally the Leafs second line is finishing off their shifts in the offensive zone, and controlling the play against the opposition. If these trends continue, two things may happen. Wilson may decide to play the Grabovski line against the top opposition of the other team more often, thus freeing up the offensively inclined Bozak, Versteeg, and Kessel, or other teams may put tougher defensive units out against Grabovski's line to counter an obvious strength on the Leaf team.
This is not intended as a slight on the Kessel, Bozak, Versteeg line, as they are obviously facing tougher competition than the Leafs second line but it should highlight that the second unit is getting the job done from a puck control and offensive production perspective. This accentuates the offensive depth the Leafs are developing and hopefully further implies that the Leafs are not a one trick pony up front. Balance may be needed on the top line and more shots need to hit the net on the part of Versteeg in particular but there's no harm in having a second line that's this productive.
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Our second line having a higher relative Corsi shows that they’re not seeing tough defensive assignments.
Observe how much higher Phil Kessel’s Corsi relative to his quality of competition is than say Henrik Zetterberg.
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True, but Versteeg and Bozak also have really low shot totals given their ice time. Steve’s right — they need to put more pucks on goal when they’re out there.
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by James Mirtle on Oct 21, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
If their Corsi rel QoC is as good as it is it means they’re driving play positively given their opposition. The Leafs are pretty one dimensional and so their first line is seeing really tough assignments.
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You’re right but Steve said that in the post. He suggested that if they keep overrunning the second units they are facing teams might be forced to re-jig their match-ups.
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Good Work Steve
This seems to re-enforce what I’ve seen already this season. Grabbo’s line hems the opposition in their end extremely well and generates scoring chances and penalties as a result. Grabbo is a beast on the forecheck and at one on one battles for the puck, he always seems to come up with it. The only time I’m ever worried when we’re hemmed in our own end is when the KVB line is out there, but not OMG Toskala is in net worried, just slightly concerned.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Oct 21, 2010 10:11 AM EDT reply actions
This is a well written article Steve.
As long as Wilson keeps the lines together, I’m not sure we’ll see much of a change from these results. The Kessel line is built around attacking and shooting on the rush. It plays to their strengths, but they are far too anxious for the breakout in their own zone. They seem to be thinking ‘go go go’ constantly, and they should probably ease of the gas a little at times. Teams are going to watch tape and start pinching in to the passing lanes if the Leafs don’t adapt. The second line, especially Grabs and Kulemin, seems to relish the offensive zone cycle, but they suffer from a severe lack of finish.
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Too early guys. I’m seeing articles comparing Bozak’s “production” to other forwards, and nobody seems to be pointing out that with this few games under the belt, a single shot going in or goal being allowed vaults him way up the standings. Even if they just have a couple of shots hit the net, and get a rebound or two off it, and the numbers shift substantially.
In short, it’s interesting. But not too much significance in this. Yet.
by not norm ullman on Oct 21, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah
For sure. It’s a quick stopping in point. As the season progresses we can compare these posts.
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I'm confused
We lead the league in fewest shots against (23/G).
Kessel leads the team in SOG.
But the Kessel line is giving up WAY more shots then they’re getting?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 21, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
Also, Grabbo’s Corsi rel QoC is 0.099, but Kessel’s is 0.919. I would take this that evidence that, all-in-all, things are shaping up OK for both of these lines.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 21, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to see what happens if the 2nd line starts drawing the competition that the 1st line does. Is the puck possession in the offensive zone still the same?
It almost seems like the 1st line is more efficient. Less puck possession and shots, but as many goals as the second line.
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by MapleLeafMole on Oct 21, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
lets face it
The Bozak-Kessel-Versteeg line is the we want out on the ice when we need a clutch goal. When they don’t score, their defensive weaknesses are going to be exposed. But the odds of getting ACTUAL production (not just shots) is going to be higher from these three, especially when up against the other team’s top defenders.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 21, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It's an average
And apparently the data wasn’t updated until today… which I didn’t see until just now.
Grabovski’s Corsi Rel QoC is actually HIGHER than Kessel’s.
Grabo = 1.025
Kessel = 0.859
Grabo’s Corsi ON = 25.39
Kessel’s Corsi ON = -10.14
Grabo’s Corsi REL = 34.2
Kessel’s Corsi REL = -16.2
There’s really no way one can argue that Kessel is more effective by any of these measures.
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by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think the Kessel line is giving up an enormous amount of shots, it’s more that Bozak and Versteeg aren’t shooting enough. Combine that with lax defensive play, you get poor corsi numbers.
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So all-in-all nothing to worry about at this stage, but to perhaps keep an eye on. Also, shoooooooot!
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by MapleLeafMole on Oct 21, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
a whole lot of this
on the PP.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 21, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless you’re Dion Phaneuf, in which case one or two zone-clearing off-target howitzers is more than enough for one game
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 21, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he just needs to get back to the low on-target shots that helped the PP be successful during the pre-season. I’d love to see a Dion Phaneuf slapshot nail the back of the net but unless he learns how to aim it then I’d rather not see it at all
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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 21, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Great piece Steve
I think these numbers reflect reality: KBV are lethal on the rush, not so much on the forecheck. Vice versa for KGM. One could certainly argue that the line that is better at dominating possession (KGM) should see the better opposition than KBV I see three options:
1. Leave everything as is. If it ain’t broke…
2. Try to match KGM against harder competition than KBV.
3. Try swapping Versteeg for Kulemin. Gives you a bigger body on the first line and more of (hopefully) a finisher on the second.
I expect to see RW experiment with 2 and 3 as soon as we have any kind of slump.
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This all makes sense.
I like the bigger body on the 1st line, to help with possession.
Wonder what kind of chemistry Versteeg would have with Grabbo and Clarke…
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by MapleLeafMole on Oct 21, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The Leafs need another big body. I know this isn’t news, but I feel that taking Kulemin off the second line does more damage to it than good it adds to the first.
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Yeah, hard to say until you try—why is why I’m fine with #1 as long as we’re winning.
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by The '67 Sound on Oct 21, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If things stay status quo in terms of line production (or lack there-of), I would say they try switching Kulemin and Versteeg after the first regulation loss.
We know KBK can be effective, and we haven’t given MGV a chance yet. Could be an interesting mix of Verdangling and Grabbo crazy.
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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 21, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully Caputi is that player some time soon. They need another big winger
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by MapleLeafMole on Oct 21, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Lot of work there - hats off
You should do another one of these after game 20 or so, that way we can see what tougher opponents and larger sample sizes gets us.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Oct 21, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The sample size issue
is killer right now… but the trends are kind of scary for the Bozak, Kessel, Versteeg line.
They’re producing far too few shots, and giving up far too many…
On the other side, Grabovski + MacArthur + Kulemin seem to consistently be on the good side of things.
Really the whole team is unbalanced right now, and Wilson is going to need to adjust to fix it. The fact that his first line is sieve like on defense, and only productive when Kessel is scoring is limiting the team. The second line isn’t scoring much in the past 2 games, but even if MacArthur, Kulemin, and Grabovski aren’t scoring, they’re quite effective at wearing down opposition blue liners. Right now they’re the top line on the team all around.
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by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions

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