Ghost Rider
In the recap for the Leafs' 3-2 loss to the Senators I suggested that Kris Versteeg needed to take a page from Nikolai Kulemin's book. While the latter was working his tail off and taking care of the little things in his game, the former was cheating to look for goals. The third Lightning goal, in the last minute of the first period, was another instance of that attitude.
I'd show you the initial build up to the goal but whoever cuts together these games in six usually don't give enough of the build up for my liking. Anyway, all you need to know is that Colton Orr had the puck about two feet from the blueline and Versteeg flying up alongside. Rather than communicating Orr tried to chip it off the boards. It was predictably stopped and the puck dumped into the corner. Meanwhile, Versteeg flew down almost to Tampa's blueline leaving the situation as such:
The way I see it: Brett Lebda has his man properly cornered off, Tim Brent should have had Dominic Moore as a starting point but he's right to start rotating out to cover the open ice, and Randy Jones is the beneficiary of the time and space provided to him by Versteeg sight-seeing excursion.
The way that I see that the play should have evolved is above. It would involve doing something that Toronto has never been adept at: communicating. To keep the play under control I'd have like to see Tim Brent come out to pressure the puck, Colton Orr rotate down to tie up Dominic Moore, and Mike Komisarek stick to his man. That would leave Lebda with his man and then Ghost Rider could pick up the other defenceman. Simple enough no? No.
Instead we are treated to three things in addition to watching Kris Versteeg chicken scratch:
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Instead of charding out at full tilt, Tim Brent tries to play goalie.
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Instead of tying up his original man or Dominic Moore, Mike Komisarek tries to play goal.
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Instead of doing anything, Colton Orr kind of looks like he's trying to play goalie but is sort of confused.
All three combine to give us this final glimpse of the goal:
In the circle you can see that Versteeg finally caught up to his man. Too little too late of course. Meanwhile, Komisarek manages to tie up no one. Instead he helps Brent screen Jean-Sebastien Giguere. All of the while Dominic Moore is alone to the side of the net waiting to redirect Jones' pass into the gaping net to seal the points.
When Ron Wilson speaks of a lack of effort and I suggest that I see it more as a lack of intelligence I think we're just using different ways to describe the same thing. You could say that the players on the ice are not putting enough effort into thinking about what they are doing. Because this is recently put together team they do not have the benefit of familiarity with each other and the systems. That's not to give Ron Wilson an excuse but it does highlight why it is so vital that the Leafs give their best effort on every shift in every game. Right now they are the high school quarterback that doesn't study his playbook. Sure, they'll probably still take a cheerleader or two home but they aren't skilled enough to win any games.
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Terrible job by Orr. Komisarek’s left with two guys to cover in front of the net there—tough call for him. Orr’s gotta take Moore.
I wonder, do the Leafs actually do video review like this on a regular basis? Or do they consistently repeat crap like that just to make us cry?
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One thing I’ve noticed from a career of sneaking down into empty golds after the first intermission is that as quiet as the lower bowl is you can only ever hear the opposition talking on the ice.
The Leafs are silent and that is frustrating as all hell.
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I may be wrong, but wasn’t it a few years ago how everyone was making a big deal about Wilson and his staff using iPad like computers on the bench to show players game tape during the game? Do they still do that? Did they ever?
by Evening News Team on Nov 10, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, they did and they continue to so now the question is why doesn’t it help.
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Too much thinking. Too much trying to remember what they were supposed to do last time and not focusing on anticipation.
Our focus is in reverse. Always dwelling on correcting past mistakes and not enough planning ahead. How many games until Wilson hits the “reset” switch again. Why not after every game? Good teams (not suggesting we are one yet) put a bad game behind them, forget about it, and look ahead and prepare for the next one. Good players hit the “reset” button after every shift.
by general borschevsky on Nov 10, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
That isnt Orr’s position. Orr covers the right point and high slot area… If Versteeg was covering his man (the left point man with the puck) instead of being in the neutral zone, Brent wouldnt have been covering the point man, and there wouldnt have been a man open in the slot.
As per above, it all stems from Versteeg cherry picking
by laple meafs on Nov 10, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Orr isn’t covering the point man, so why isn’t he covering the open guy in front of the net? Regardless of what your position is, if you see a man open in front of the net and there’s no-one else there you have to take that guy pronto.
If Orr can’t see that, well, I guess it’s just a reminder of why he should only get about 2 minutes per game…
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by Back In Black on Nov 10, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
absolutely… however “why isnt he covering the open guy in front of the net” can be aimed at any of the 4 Leafs not already covering a man in front. That is not specifically Orr’s guy.. When the puck goes in, Lebda is just as far south as Versteeg is. An argument can be made that if Lebda switched over to take Tampa’s RW, then Komi couldve moved over to the other man in the slot (as he was beginning to do)
just sayin… its unfair to pin the blame of this goal on Orr not covering the man in the slot
by laple meafs on Nov 10, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree. The players on the ice have to be able to read the play and adjust accordingly. Orr is doing absolutely nothing. He’s covering no one. That has to set off an alarm in his head that something is wrong.
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Hes covering the left point man… you dont cover them by standing on their heels.. If a pass went across the blue line from Lecavalier, Orr would have been there in 3 strides…
If he’s in front of the net covering Brents man and the shot came from the left point its directly his fault.
The right play would be for Komisarek to move right (which he started to) Brent to move to the man Komi was covering and Versteeg have Lecavalier… Unfortunately, Versteeg being in the neutral zone creates a 5-4 leaving somebody always open…
Back to my original point, a winger never adjusts to cover the front of the net when there are 2 D and a C in the zone
by laple meafs on Nov 10, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Orr is “no man’s land” there. 3 strides is enough space to do all sorts of things with the puck. I know what you mean when you say this “a winger never adjusts to cover the front of the net when there are 2 D and a C in the zone.” But it’s a really ugly defensive breakdown happening. Never say never.
If Versteeg takes on Lecavaleier (half-Boards?) where does Lebda end up?
Who takes Jones?
There is a few ways this thing could go, though. Definitely can agree with that. It all falls apart, as you said, with Versteeg in the neutral zone and the 5-4
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 10, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Orr was “3 strides away” from all 5 of the Lightning; three strides away from his man means the same as not covering him.
But your original point is wrong; if your 2D and C all end up trapped behind the icing line, and there’s a man open in the slot, the winger doesn’t hang out at the faceoff circle saying “I’ve got my man”. Unless he likes being scored on.
Versteeg leaving the zone caused a problem, Orr not finding an open man to cover made it worse, and Brent and Komisarek let themselves get caught in the middle.
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by Back In Black on Nov 10, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
have you guys ever played hockey?
if Komi & Brent are in front of the net (which they are) those are their two men… you dont go and try to block a shot when there is a man open in the slot
by laple meafs on Nov 10, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
No, you're the only one here who has ever played hockey
that’s why everyone disagrees with you. I’m a defenceman, so maybe I’m more sensitive than others to the dilemma Komisarek and Brent find themselves in, thanks to the clueless wingers.
Brent has left his man to try and deal with the wide open shooter at the top of the circle. This should be clearly obvious to Orr, who is facing that direction and is much closer to Moore than to any other Lightning player. If the man you are closest to you is wide open and in scoring position and none of your teammates are there, then that is your man.
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by Back In Black on Nov 10, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
so what happens when brent goes to block the shot and Lecavalier passes the puck across to the other D… now that Orr is in front of the net, the leafs are screwed again…
All i’ve been trying to say all along is that there is nothing that could have been done to avoid this scenario once Lebda was caught at the boards and Versteeg was outside the zone
To pin the blame on Orr is ridiculous
by laple meafs on Nov 10, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Two Things:
No one is pinning the entire blame on Orr. He’s just another player that makes the wrong play.
And the puck carrier that Lebda is watching is Ryan Malone not Vinny Lecavalier.
Lebda’s man is covered. How is he at fault?
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Versteeg left the zone too early, and set things in motion. Brent had to leave his man to go to Jones, but he doesn’t commit enough, possibly because he worried (correctly) that Orr wasn’t going to take Moore. Brent is trying to cover the shot and the pass, and gets neither.
Komisarek tries to cover both open players in front of the net, and predictably succeeds only in screening his own goalie.
Orr is not the only one who screws up… and yet. If Orr covers Moore and communicates this to Brent, maybe Brent goes aggressively at Jones and prevents the entry pass. Komisarek only has one person to cover and continues to do it, so Giguere is no longer screened. The pass may go to the other point man, who Orr had to leave open – but in the first picture that guy’s not even in the zone and is basically standing still, and Versteeg is rapidly getting into position to cut off the pass.
The breakdown wasn’t Orr’s fault (well, he did make the failed clearing attempt) but the goal could have been prevented by some smart play and communication, of which he did none.
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by Back In Black on Nov 10, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Versteeg leaving the zone and going for a skate is the big question mark for me. Inexplicable.
by general borschevsky on Nov 10, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
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by The '67 Sound on Nov 10, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
So your solution is to have Brent and Komisarek tie up the guys in front of the net and let Randy Jones walk in unfettered?
And we’re the ones that have never played hockey? Ok.
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To be fair, letting Randy Jones walk in alone doesn’t seem all that dangerous.
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No but it’s the wrong play.
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I think that’s what he’s suggesting. I’m not sure though, I haven’t played hockey.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 10, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Never. First time seeing a hockey puck. Where am I, anyways.
“you dont go and try to block a shot when there is a man open in the slot”
Who are you talking about?
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 10, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
He’s not covering the point man. He’s at the hashmarks!
Back to my original point, a winger never adjusts to cover the front of the net when there are 2 D and a C in the zone
They do if their team is outnumbered. That’s when they have to read and react and he fails to do that. Versteeg’s the catalyst but Orr fails too.
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wingers cover D men at the top of the circle… when have you ever seen a winger standing at the blue line when the other point-man has the puck…
all the left D needs to do is skate a few feet in and hes blown by Orr and is alone in front of the net
by laple meafs on Nov 10, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
He’s not even in the vicinity of the defenceman. He would have 0 impact other than being a body in the way of a shot. He doesn’t have to be right beside the defenceman but he should be at least at the top of the circles.
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Lebda played it well. There’s no way he could have gotten back in time to cover the other Lightning in front of the net.
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because he was out of position, he should never be at the top of the circle
by laple meafs on Nov 10, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he should have headed back towards the front after the pass but its not like he’d have made it there anyway. The real problem here is that Ledba wandered off because he was supposed to pass that winger off to Versteeg, who was elsewhere, so he just kept on going rather than peeling off.
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I bet that if it was any other player than Lecavalier or Stamkos, not all three of Versteeg/Lebda?Brent wouldve gravitated towards him
by laple meafs on Nov 10, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Someone has to pressue the puck carrier.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 10, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it looks to me that Lebda’s the one who isn’t screwing up. If it’s a penalty kill, he’s too far to the side boards, but unless he recognized the 5-on-4 in time he doesn’t have the chance to get back to the edge of the slot.
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by Back In Black on Nov 10, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Lebda didn’t do anything wrong in that play. You want him to do what? Stop and leave the puck carrier alone too?
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he essentially makes the play a 4 on 3 if he takes himself out of it by standing at the boards
by laple meafs on Nov 10, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Right
Which is why Lebda stays with his man.
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Trust
Perhaps if Brent trusted Orr to cover Moore, he would have charged out at Johnson instead of feeling glued to the slot. Or perhaps he felt Orr should have been moving to the other point man, since Versteeg couldn’t be trusted to pick that guy up.
If Komisarek trusted his teammates he would have stuck with his man instead of screening the goalie.
Of course, it looks like counting on either of Orr or Versteeg on this play would have been the wrong decision. Still, I see symptoms of players who simply don’t trust each other enough to make the right play, so we have four players screwing up instead of just two.
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Still, I see symptoms of players who simply don’t trust each other enough to make the right play, so we have four players screwing up instead of just two.
I used to pin it on guys scrambling to stop every shot because Toskala was so terrible but Toskala’s gone…
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…and Brent wasn’t even here last year to pick up that habit…
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by Back In Black on Nov 10, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Kris Versteeg needs to take a long walk off a short pier.
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Honest question...
Is Versteeg’s cherrypicking a new development since landing in TOR? Because I don’t recall him having that kind of recurring problem in Chicago. Admittedly, I don’t pay as much attention to the West- but if this is a recent thing…. WHY? Is he jealous of Colton’s suave masculinity and Komo’s dashing good looks?
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Actually, the folks over at second city warned us that he’d drive Leaf fans bonkers.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
they also said he would score goals and wow us occasionally, they were half right
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 10, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
could be
One of these days his danging is actually going to work and he will wow us. It’s just percentages though. How often he tries it, and how often it works.
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 10, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I would have been wow’d if he scored after dragging it through Hedman’s legs on that one-on-one last night. Sigh
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 10, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I’d have been satisfied if Komisarek tied either of the lightning players up, or at least looked like he tried to even though he wasn’t in a great position to do it.
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yeah, everyone did the – block-a-shot-statue.
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 10, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
breakouts
this goal all started because we couldn’t get it out of our end. we’ve discussed this before as being an issue (passes up the middle). We always come back and blame the players for the mistakes:
I can see two (potential) problems, however:
1) the breakout might be too predictable, thereby allowing other teams the easy opportunity to block the breakout pass and hem us in
2) the breakout itself may be badly constructed, thereby leading to frequent and glaring gaffes.
I’m saying this not because I’m an expert in breakouts, but because of a clip Don Cherry showed of how effective their breakout is. I believe he said it was the product of coaching by Kirk Muller. Good coaching can make simple things more effective.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 10, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions
Daaaaaaamn.
It’s true the Leafs breakout, right now, it sucks
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 10, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
It’s like watching the Three Stooges, Tampa didn’t even have to do anything, Giggy got screened by two of his own guys on the shot and two opposing players were left untouched sitting on both sides of him in prime position for a redirect or to pounce on a rebound…
Tell me again how the Leafs don’t have any defense issues?
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Nov 10, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
how Versteeg has avoided a beating benching this long is beyond me
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 10, 2010 12:15 PM EST reply actions
I was thinking the same….He hasn’t even been really demoted to a checking line or less or something, other than the typical in-game line blenders. Every game he’s starting top 6 or top line. tonnes of ice time. HOW
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 10, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I’ve been calling for as well. He should be moved down to the 3rd line (where he enjoyed all his success in CHI-town and) where the defensive assignments against him might be a bit more lax to allow him some room to screw around in the neutral zone without having the puck end up in the back of the net.
With Armstrong out, that leaves open a spot in the top 6 – audition the kids, give Hanson a shot, put Shoestring there to see if he can turn into another Hagman type, bring back JFM even – something to shake Versteeg out of his funk.
The longer it goes, the more I think that about Bozak as well, but my expectations are lower for him so far.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 10, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I get the feeling at the end of periods now I got last year: like the Leafs have gone to the dressing room early. What’s the deal?
by Leaf in Habland on Nov 10, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions
Agree
That goal came because they were thinking of the intermission.
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The first four games the Leafs did a much better job of making sure the last 30 seconds of each period was played in the other teams end.
by general borschevsky on Nov 10, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
They carried play a lot more in those games and shot the lights out.
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Why is Colton Orr on the ice for a penalty kill?
Why would Ron Wilson do such a thing?
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Ron Wilson does a lot of things that seem counterproductive.
John Mitchell playing for more than 7-10 minutes is a tired criticism, but I think a fair one. Ron Wilson either is being purposefully obtuse or relaying to Brian Burke that he needs better forwards.
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I love (love) your posts breaking down the play. But is there a way to change the font in your diagrams to a bolder one, or a clearer colour? I don’t know if it’s possible, since you’re screen capping so everything likely comes out blurry in the first place. If not, no big deal in any case.
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Noted!
I’ll work on it for the next one.
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It looks like both Orr and Brent starting rotating to cover their new assignment, then stopped once Versteeg blew past the left d-man to go after his original assignment, Randy Jones. Brent realized he needed to get to the net if Versteeg pressured Jones, while Orr thought he needed to watch the point. Basically, Versteeg screws up by jumping early, then screws up again by not covering his new man.

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