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2005-06: What the Experts Thought

For years, at the beginning of each hockey season and again at the start of the playoffs, my friends and I would put together a spreadsheet that collected all of the predictions from the so-called "experts" to which we'd add our own selections. Once the season/playoffs wrapped,  we'd do a compare and contrast to see how we all stacked up. More importantly, we'd also have a written record to determine which one of us should be mocked mercilessly for our wrong, and often dumb, predictions.

A few jobs and many computers later, all but one of those spreadsheets have been lost. The only one I've been able to turn up is from the 2005-06 season.

I thought it would be interesting to re-visit the picks to see how all of our favourite talking heads performed (I love that Don Cherry picked Bochenski for the Calder; any surprise that Maguire went with Jeff Carter?).

This was the first year post-lockout, so we should give these folks plenty of slack for many of their predictions. Looking back, I'm stunned Phoenix posted 38 wins and it's interesting to see the list of teams that missed the post-season. Two of them have since won the Stanley Cup.

2005-06 Season Predictions

 

East SC

West SC

Art Ross

Calder

Miss the Playoffs

PHX  Ws

ACTUAL

Carolina

Edmonton

Thornton

Ovechkin

VAN, LA, MIN, PHX, CBJ, CHI, STL; TOR, ATL, FLA, NYI, BOS, WSH, PIT

38

Gord Stellick

Ottawa

Vancouver

Forsberg

Ovechkin

MTL; LA

30

Nick Kypreos

Ottawa

Vancouver

Spezza

Crosby

ATL; STL

35

Daren Millard

Ottawa

Vancouver

Iginla

Crosby

STL; NYI

30

John Garret

Philly

Vancouver

Jagr

Crosby

BUF; WSH

30

Darren Drager

Philly

Calgary

 

Crosby

TOR; STL

28

Bill Watters

Ottawa

San Jose

Iginla

Crosby

TOR; STL

 

Don Cherry

Ottawa

Vancouver

Spezza

Bochenski

 

 

Bob MacKenzie

Ottawa

San Jose

Iginla

Ovechkin

 

 

Pierre MaGuire

Ottawa

Calgary

 

Carter

 

 

Barry Melrose

Flyers

Calgary

 

 

 

 

John Buccigross

Flyers

San Jose

 

 

 

 

Terry Frei

Ottawa

Calgary

 

 

 

 

E.J. Hradek

Lightning

San Jose

 

 

 

 

Eric Karabell

Flyers

Vancouver

 

 

 

 

Scott Burnside

Lightning

Vancouver

 

 

 

 

Joy Russo

Lightning

Calgary

 

 

 

 

MF37

Ottawa

San Jose

Naslund

Ovechkin

TOR; BOS

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Wow. So this “Vancouver is a cup favourite” thing isn’t new, eh?
Also I distinctly remember Don Cherry’s love for Brandon Bochenski that year. I remember how he thought the Hawks were so stupid to trade him for Versteeg.

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by Karina on Nov 23, 2010 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

I can’t believe I thought Naslund would win the Art Ross. He wasn’t even a point-per-game player in 2005-06 (81GP, 79pts).

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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I can’t believe you thought the Leafs would miss the playoffs.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 23, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

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by Karina on Nov 23, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

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by Karina on Nov 23, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

oops

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by Karina on Nov 23, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Oddly appropriate actually.

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by A Lindros Jaw on Nov 23, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m nothing if not consistent (I hated JFJ so much).

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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

What a year.

Signing Belfour after the lockout had to be one of the most dumbest signings ever. Mariusz Czerkawski, THE POLISH PRINCE. Eric Lindros. Alex Khavanov. Jeff O’Neill! Kyle Wellwood put up 45 points that year, he and Steen outscoring Jeff Carter and Mike Richards. J.S. Aubin went 9-0-2 in a mad dash towards the postseason. Jason Allison, 60 points in 66 games! Good times, man. Good times.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 23, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Mariusz Czerkawski, THE POLISH PRINCE.

Pretty sure I own the only non-game-worn Czerkawski Leaf jersey there is. I had such great expectations…

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by puckurgently on Nov 23, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

i’m guessing that this is the case.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 23, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i remember that as the year PPP thought Steen would be better than Jeff Carter and I “disagreed” (to put it politely)

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by blurr1974 on Nov 23, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty amazing how things have panned out. Wellwood’s out of the league. I HAD SUCH HIGH HOPES.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 23, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I always get way too excited about nobodies, Suglubov, Gamche, Pohl….ugh

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i have a friend who is a noted leaf hater, and also a former pro-hockey player (played in europe for several years), and even HE was convinced the Leafs had a keeper in Wellwood. that fat bastard fooled all of us.

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by daoust on Nov 24, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

rec’d for fat bastard

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by Karina on Nov 25, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at all what I wrote

I wrote after that season that Steen’s first year had been comparable to Richards’ and Carter’s first year and that subsequently Maurice’s idiocy had ruined his potential which it did.

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by PPP on Nov 23, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

man

I remember most of that stuff.

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.

by Leafer87 on Nov 23, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That was the year of the Steve Moore incident though. So, major concussion plus the loss of Naslund’s favourite teammate would’ve been factors.

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by Karina on Nov 23, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha Grapes!

Also, all the Ottawa love in there is killing me.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 23, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like a HUGE canadian team bias to me…

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by Karina on Nov 23, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Love the TB/Cal predictions. Because after a year off, a new cap and umpteen rule changes, I totally expect to see a repeat of last year’s finals!!!

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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 23, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Brandon. Fucking. Bochenski.

Let’s all think about that for a minute.

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by puckurgently on Nov 23, 2010 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

Seriously. That’s spectacular.

“Bochenski” is now going to be my reply every time people drool over a prospect I don’t like.

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by puckurgently on Nov 23, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

NO THANKS

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 23, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

who?

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.

by Leafer87 on Nov 23, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This Post...

makes me stabby.

Sadly Bochenski wasn’t the worst player I drafted in fantasy hockey that year, that honour went to Brett Hull who retired 5 games in. Yep 1 guy in the AHL, 1 guy retired, all I needed was a dead guy and I’d get the trifecta.

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by Dany Heatley Speedwagon on Nov 23, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

Based on a tip from a friend in Finland, I used the last pick in a hockey pool to take Espen Knutsen (1998?)

I was soundly mocked. Knutsen played most of the season with Cincinnati.

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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

If only your league tracked fans killed by pucks.

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by puckurgently on Nov 23, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

GAH.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 23, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

/slowclap

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by blindfolded tank driver on Nov 23, 2010 11:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I do play in a league that counts that.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 23, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Makes me wish I had all the old spreadsheets. I’ve been doing this since about 2000, it would be interesting to see which experts tend to get it right more often than not.

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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2010 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

Considering how many up there are completely wrong, it would be very interesting.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 23, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Most experts always get it wrong, Jonah Leher talks about how poorly experts guess in political races.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 23, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Not that this isn’t a cool post, but 05-06 was such a weird year I don’t know how anyone could predict anything.

I’d be interested to see what the predictions were for the seasons after this.

by samspade on Nov 23, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

this is super cool.

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.

by Leafer87 on Nov 23, 2010 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

Why were you guessing how many wins Phoenix would get?

by Leaf in Habland on Nov 23, 2010 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t remember, I think it was inspired by an article at sportsnet.ca and all the experts weighed in so we did too.

I was trying to find older content at sportsnet and TSN today, but I couldn’t find much of anything prior to 2008.

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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

TSN’s search functionality is terrible. Absolute crap.

by Death_By_Leafs on Nov 24, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

wow look at don cherry’s calder pick lol

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by HBT on Nov 24, 2010 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

I picked a Flyers/Flames final, just like Barry Melrose…..

…shoot me now.

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