Maple Leafs at Calgary Flames: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
On January 31st Brian Burke made the second trade that will define his tenure as the General Manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs. He sent Matt "Healthy Scratch" Stajan, Jamal Mayers, Ian "Moustachulent" White, and Niklas "Hot Wife" Hagman to Calgary in return for prospect Keith Aulie, Fredrik Sjostrom, and Dion Phaneuf. Tonight, Dion Phaneuf is going to get booed to high heaven for the crime of caring too much and having too many established leaders on his team. Luckily, he stepped into a massive leadership vacuum in Toronto.
The Leafs will once again be playing in front of a Leafs-friendly crowd. It'll be vital to get out in front early to keep the crowd engaged. It would be a hell of a night for the Edmonton-born Phaneuf to pick up his second goal of the year. You can read another preview by SkinnyFish over at LeafsNation here.
Starting Goalies:
Giguere's coming off of two fine performances against Montreal and Edmonton in which he only allowed two goals which allowed our pop-gun offence to win. Kiprusoff, as has been the case every year, is getting buried with work and doing an acceptable job. Not enough to help the team overcome their structural limitations but they might be New Jersey or New York Islanders bad if not for him.
But the real story, nay, the only story tonight, is the return of Dion Phaneuf. So in case you've missed out, here's some pre-game reading:
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I’LL SEE YOU BITCHEZ AT THE GAME!!!1
The Belorussian buzz saw only has one setting:
HYPERDEATH!
- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Dec 16, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
There was an interesting discussion at the Torontoist about this “every sentence it’s own paragraph” issue. Interestingly it was written by the managing editor of the Sun.
More on topic: GO LEAFS GO!!!
I love that Phaneuf is the type of player who enjoys being booed.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
Frivolous Ornamentation
by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 1:51 PM EST reply actions
was that our Fergus on the comments? The Sun is a newspaper for morons.
October 25, 1966. Thank you Lord Kelvin
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 16, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
whoa hagmans wife is indeed hot
Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10
by Future_considerations on Dec 16, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions
He sent Matt “Healthy Scratch” Stajan, Jamal Mayers, Ian “Moustachulent” White, and Niklas “Hot Wife” Hagman to Calgary in return for prospect Keith Aulie, Fredrik Sjostrom, and Dion Phaneuf.
Incidentally, did you know what the term “Hot Wife” means? Pretty big insult to Hagman, but given the sordid rumours of affairs that were supposedly part of the Calgary dressing room, perhaps he fits right in!
Fire. Wilson. Now. Anger is more useful than despair.
by Peter de Chatham on Dec 16, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus
No. I will google ‘Hot Wife’ later!
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1. hot wife
A sexually uninhibited married woman with both the freedom and inclination/desire to enjoy sex with both her husband and other men.
Oh
Well, I meant it in the normally accepted fashion that means that when I look at pictures of his wife I think “Yowza!”.
Then again, he’s not a Leaf anymore…
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43 reasons why the Leafs stink!
1. Because of Leafs Nation? — C’mon, at least be original with your catchy little catch-all catch-phrase to describe the foaming-at-the-mouth, rabid, raving fanbase. Insufferable doesn’t begin to describe Leafs fans.
6. Because LEAFS is not even a proper word. It’s LEAVES. They can’t even get that right.
13. Because of three words: Bob ‘Freaking’ Cole! Watching the game with Punjabi commentators made more sense and kept you better informed … even if you couldn’t understand Punjabi.
14. Because, hey, Eric Lindros is going to be a Leaf! Too bad they had to wait until he was more broken than Wendel Clark, another GREATEST GUY EVER built from peanut brittle!
33. Because it’s an organization so short-term greedy, it can’t think of how another team in the area would benefit the Leafs. Hey, be like the L.A. Lakers with the second-class Clippers in their building.
40. Because their disgruntled fans throw waffles on the ice. What’s with that? Can’t they find any bricks?
I hope we fucking murder them tonight.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
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http://www.calgarysun.com/sports/hockey/2010/12/16/16575616.html
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
8. Because, snicker, snicker, they traded two No.-1 picks for Phil Kessell. Almost takes away the bitter taste from the Gilmour/Phaneuf robberies. We said almost.
NO!!!!1 It was bad enough trading two first-rounders for Phil Kessel…but now we’ve gone and done it again??!
Who’s Phil Kessell, by the way?
I only scanned this, but I think I can boil it down to one point:
1. Because no one gives a rats ass about Calgary and that MUST be Toronto’s fault. Boo hoo.
That said, since everyone else seems to write the phrase “self-appointed center of the universe”, isn’t it a given now? I mean, who would be a better judge of the center than the center? Everyone else is outside looking in.
NNN’ing this shit tonight before the game.
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I like how they mention traded 1st round picks, THEY TRADED ONE FOR JOKINEN!
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Gormley would’ve definitely looked way better than Steve Staios and Cory Sarich on the blueline.
In Lou We Trust/Twitter
This season is all a terrible dream brought on by too much Penne a la Pesto.
by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 16, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
that’s so out of date
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
Frivolous Ornamentation
by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ho-Lee-Fuck. I’ve never had a genuine hate on for Calgary before, but now its full blown.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
keep in mind, this is the same umbrella organization that steals from PPP, so it’s not too surprising they write idiotic nonsense to rile up the whole “LAFFS 1967!!!1” Crowd.
Motion to Change “GO FLYERS!!!1” to “GO FLAMES!!!1” for one night only?
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
or as they say in Alberta YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWW!
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
It’s the Sun.
Other teams read the Toronto Sun and think that represents the fanbase. Let’s not be as ignorant.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
but the Toronto Sun gets it’s content from here, so at least it’s more well informed…
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Just because you can copy/paste doesn’t mean you can actually read/comprehend.
by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
This has inspired me to write a sarcastic blog post.
You can find it later tonight.
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Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
why does eveyone hate us? :(
Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
they are jealous of our good looks and excellent posture
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
/stops slouching
Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
/combs hair
Shoebacca - the PK Wookie
by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
This is pathetic by Sun Media standards. Like, I can’t actually conceive of a single human being reading this article and laughing at a single one of its forty-three points.
Conversely, if we did "1 reason why the Flames stink list here and it read
1. Darryl Sutter
EVERYONE would laugh.
counterpoint
I didn’t laugh, I chuckled
Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
2. Because of Heist No. 1 — Flames fans justifiably felt violated after Doug Gilmour, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville, Jamie Macoun and Rick Wamsley were sent packing by Doug Risebrough for Gary Leeman, Craig Berube, Alexander Godynyuk, Jeff Reese, and Michel Petit. Thanks Doug.
3. Because of Heist No. 2 — Deja boo for Flames fans as Brian Burke bamboozles Darryl Sutter into giving up one of his top three assets for a handful of extras. Dion Phaneuf, Fredrik Sjostrom, Keith Aulie for Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Ian White and Jamal Meyers. Geez, nice one, Darryl.
4. Because the Flames have never fleeced them in a trade.
19. Because we’re sick of being inundated with Brian Burke soundbytes. Yeah, we get it, he makes Darryl Sutter look like Mr. Rogers.
Calgary fans think the Leafs stink because we’re better than them. Logic.
There is no logic in jealousy.
Shoebacca - the PK Wookie
by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
To think I cheered for them in the SCF.
The best proof that Toronto is the centre of the (Canadian) universe is the constant need of residents of other cities to try (pathetically) to tear it down. Sports aside, I have fond feelings for virtually every major Canadian city.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Dec 16, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Halifax is gorgeous, I despise Montreal because it’s a deathtrap. and no one speaks English and if they do, they make you struggle with elementary French before admitting they do.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
The city of Montreal is lovely, Habs fans, well you know.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
i’ve driven through Montreal many times, its dirty and depressing. Quebec seems a lot nicer thoiugh. I always make sure to fill up in Cornwall though..don’t want to have to stop in Quebec!
Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10
by Future_considerations on Dec 16, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Quebec city is incredible, montreal is a sinkhole, although i do like that you can buy a 24 in the gas station for 25 bucks there.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
No clue what peoples’ problem with Montreal is. It’s a nice city, and unless you go into a part of the city that’s overwhelmingly francophone, speaking English is never a problem. I’ve never had problems, for example, getting service in English at a restaurant.
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
The drivers here really are crazy though. It’s like their car horns are permanently engaged and the brakes don’t work.
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I always have a blast in Montreal. The food is good (except the mexican) the booze is cheap and the women are hot.
the only thing bad about montreal is the Habs…well yes and the drivers, which I blame the Habs for
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
well they’re just trying to get away from the Habs fans who want to burn their cars
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
by birky on Dec 16, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, for sure. But crazy pedestrians are much less likely to run me over at an intersection.
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I like Montreal. Ottawa, Vancouver and Calgary too. Haven’t been to Halifax but sounds lovely.
I prefer Toronto obviously but I never feel any reason to knock the other cities.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Dec 16, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Quebec is a beautiful city, but the people will accomodate your english faster in Montreal.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
it’s the only one i’ve been to that I love as much as toronto, major city or not.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
this is CC territory but my girlfriend and I went to the Dome one night during our stay there ( think shitty nightclub) and some girl stripped naked and got on the stripper pole and went at it in the middle of the nightclub. She got thrown out after about 2 minutes and the bouncer was telling everyone she was a hooker but, first time I’ve ever seen that outside of a strip club. my girlfriend was laughing so hard at the whole thing.
conclusion: Halifax is awesome.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
Haha the dome! Good times, dirty times, but good times
by schennsational on Dec 16, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
The Navy, four universities, government jobs, two or three trade schools, all in a city of 350,000. It’s rockin’
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, I went to the Dome last year when I was at a conference in Halifax. Twice. That place is Jersey Shore North. We watched in awe as two guido-looking guys just started simultaneously grinding on the same girl.
Decent club, crazy clientele.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
If you want to party, there’s no place in Canada that compares to Halifax. Unfortunately, it’s also getting pretty crime infested, specifically violent.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
It’s funny that so many people here out west hate the city of Toronto. I don’t. I’ve never been there, but people I’ve met from there, for the most part, are good people, not arrogant or conceited.
People think I’m biased, because I grew up a Leafs fan, but I really don’t get the Toronto hate. Maybe everyone is jealous.
Leaf fan in Edmonton.
Meh, I get it
There’s more people in Toronto, so it gets more media coverage and events, and in turn gets attention. It then turns into “Toronto only cares about Toronto”, which makes the residents look like arrogant, self-centred people…
I get it… I just don’t care.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
When you have one city contributing to a sizable portion of the countrys population (especially a country the size of Canada) people are going to be jealous.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
The best/worse is – Toronto is so violent. All I ever see on TV is violence in Toronto.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs win by default.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
The two sweetest words in the english language!
De-fault! De-fault! De-fault!
by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 16, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Toronto has one of the lowest crime rates in Canada. There are certain parts of the city that are more dangerous, but as a general rule Toronto is a very safe city.
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
yup, but 70 murders a year sounds like a whole lot to someone living in a city of 300 thou
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
the first time I met some family friends from Stratford, they were genuinely surprised I’m not in a gang or haven’t seen anyone murdered
Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
Gangs and gun violence
are an issue in Toronto, but not for the average person.
For teenagers and people in low income communities it’s a bigger problem… but that isn’t everyone, it isn’t even most people.
As far as witnessing actual violence, I’d say fist fights, stabbings, machete-ings, and the occasional threat have a lot more to do with gang violence in Toronto than a lot of the scary gun play you hear about on the evening news.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Just like every city. I used to live in Saskatoon. Even though it is very small it has a high crime rate, but the areas that I lived in are very safe. Saskatoon has one major area that I would avoid. Toronto (and any other city) I’m sure are the same, obviously on a much larger scale.
Leaf fan in Edmonton.
Look at it this way: they don’t show all the instances of violence NOT happening in Toronto. It’s kind of like plane crashes. Looks like it happens all the time, but it’s not like they report about the thousands of takeoffs and landings where nothing happens.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Dec 16, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
News today – man walks peacfully to work, without incident.
Sounds like an headline from “the Onion”
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
altenate Headline
Man says drive home on the 401 “Not Bad”
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lady in Toronto returns from grocery store, happy.
Today in Toronto, a lady left her home at approximately 6 pm to purchase food from a grocery store for the upcoming week. She was happy to report she made it home in good time, with all her groceries, and without being stabbed, shot, mugged or otherwise the victim of crime.
“I’m happy it’s just another day in Toronto, and I’m not dead.”
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
“Man goes to library, does not get killed by a crossbow”
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
When I lived in Thunder Bay, it had the highest Murder rate in Canada for something like 4 of the 5 years i was there
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Correlation?
The Leafs are my Rushmore
Certified Grabbo Lover and member of the PPPPP
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Those pythons aren’t just for show
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Dec 16, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been to TB a few times. It’s a pretty area.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
I was there grades 8 through 13
all there was to do there was drink and play hockey
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
and get laid
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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other thing I remember about my time in Thunder bay a chlamydia outbreak so bad that 90 percent of stores were handing out free condoms
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm… at that point I assume it was back to drinking and hockey for awhile.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Me: why does the grocery store have piles and piles of free cds at the exit?
Girlfriend: actually those are just empty CD cases with condoms in them to raise awareness about STDs
Me:Oh…well we need condoms anyway, grab as many as you can carry
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I knew a girl who went to Lakehead. The stuff she told me about going there.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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all true, I don’t even know details, but yes. its all true
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
“Too cold to go out, so stay in and have sex”
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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You obviously slacked off one year.
I am disappointed in you.
"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 16, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
This is true. Per capita, there’s a lot a places in Canada way more violent than TO. If anyone’s been to a reserve out west you’ll know what I mean, or Surrey, B.S., Halifax is climbing the charts, and so on.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Toronto isn't violent particularly
There’s more people so there’s inevitably more violent crimes in total, but on a per capita basis the cities of Saskatoon and Winnipeg are far more violent than Toronto.
Toronto is actually one of the safest cities in Ontario, let alone Canada.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not even jealousy though really, it just makes the citizens of the place getting the most attention seem “arrogant” or “ignorant of the rest of Canada” without it in fact being the truth.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
It’s gets tired really quick, travelling/living in other parts of Canada but being from Toronto. You know how many times I’ve heard:
“So where you from?”
“Toronto”
“I’m sorry to hear that”
I pretty much sneer now. Won’t even get a pity giggle out of me. I’m content with calling the ROC jealous, without it being the truth. Probably petty of me, but fuck it
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
“yeah, I’m just glad I’m not from this shit hole, why did you move here? wife? job? family? Oh…you were born here……that explains it”
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
oooo that’s good.
“Born here, eh…eeeee…sorry to hear that”
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
stealing and placing it in the insult bank
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a hate of the city, not the Leafs. If you go a Leafs game out west half the audience wears blue. Plus, Toronto represents the hate westerners have for central Canada(they call it east)and their control of Canadian government. If you get them comparing provinces though, Quebec knocks Ont. out of the way fast for top billing.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Try Living in One
Try living in another major Canadian city and telling people you’re from Toronto. Two years ago we hired a new girl who, upon hearing I was from Toronto, began talking to me about “Onterrible.” When I went home that Thanksgiving I used the expression to illustrate your typical Alberta attitude towards Ontario in general and Toronto in particular.
…
Of course, the girl later revealed other, positive qualities and we’ve been dating for a year-and-a-half. In fact, I took her home for Easter this year…and introduced her as “the Onterrible girl.” The lesson, kids: be careful what you say. You never know whose dining room table you’ll end up visiting.
hah! i went to Edmonton this past summer and my buddy who moved out there about 4 years ago told me that EVERYONE in alberta called ontario “Onterrible”
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I had no idea ‘til I got here. To be fair, though, it’s nothing compared to how Vancouverites feel about Toronto…
i had a friend that moved out to whistler for a year then came back, she still calls it onterrible.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
Disagree. Its fucking magical out there.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
ya
were i to ever move back to Canada, I’d pick BC over just about anywhere else…
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
>:(
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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can’t stand BC, too wet, most every one I meet out there is a douche the whole province reeks of effort
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
yep, and too many hippies.
also, driving there sucks… up and down, up and down. it felt so weird
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
It gets better the farther north you go. Prince George is a big redneck contrast to the PC Granolas in the Lower Mainland…and the Okanagan in the summer is like Mexico.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Man…try interior BC. Okanagan valley. It’s like being in the Wild West. It’s dry and hot. Douches are everywhere. What can you do
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Kamloops was a pretty boring place, lots of interesting scenary and hills n stuff, but literally nothing to do
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
A good friend of mine had his wedding reception in the Blazer’s rink.
Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.
end of the road
I really liked Tofino. My kind of town.
by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Gah. I hated Tofino. We had a high of 13C in June and it rained every day but one.
Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.
Windy too.
But there’s like no cops in town, everyone is under 30, everyone smokes weed, and every girl owns a surfboard. It’s like heaven.
by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
shrooms in tofino = heaven
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
That might be heaven if you’re not travelling with your wife and a 4 & 6 year old.
Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.
yea, maybe its not as much fun then haha.
i spend 2 nights sleeping on the beach in tofino, t’was amazing.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Actually I was with my wife and my 3 year old daugther. They loved it too. There’s a great beach not far away, and right in the centre of town is a really good playground for the little one. Even has a zip-line!
by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Glad you had a good time. Just goes to show how bad weather can colour a place.
We were stuck inside because of rain or freezing our asses off during our visit.
Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.
Close to the hot springs. Never been to Kaslo per se, but that whole area kinda knocked my socks off
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
:(
THANKS
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
Frivolous Ornamentation
by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Ontario transplants don’t count, unless they become converts
converts are the worst of all
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
if you like outdoors activities and being wet all the time, BC is for you. not really my scene though. and what’s with the bars closing at midnight or whatever in vancouver? lame.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
northern ontario is awesome for outdoor activites
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
lots of places are great for a whole host of reasons…
/Switzerland’d
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Except Edmonton.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
:(
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
It’s pretty country but if you’re driving across Canada N.Ont. never ends!
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I took a greyhound from Kitchener to Edmonton with my mom when I was in grade ten.
Two and a half days…and most of that was northern ontario. It just wouldn’t end :’( So many rocks and trees…
…and the stops are pretty few and far between.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
i drove from mississauga to edmonton in 2 and a half days back in July, Ontario alone took about 23-24 hours
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Ontario is enormous.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
sure is, i managed to cross manitoba and almost all of saskatchewan in one shot once i got out of ontario
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
sounds about right, Toronto to Thunder Bay is approx 16 hrs, then another 8 to get to Winnipeg.
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 16, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a miracle you’re alive.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I’m definitely a sucker for greenery. N. Ontario is awesome, too
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I really love cities, Montreal is likely the only other place in Canada I could consider living in.
Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.
Agreed.
I’ve never been to Calgary actually, but I’ve had friends who ended up living there for a few years after school. The general consensus was that it was a good place to live, if you weren’t a visible minority or gay.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
I’ve spent a fair amount of time in Calgary. We have family there and it was a former client’s second largest market, so I had to spend a week there every June for about 5 years.
It’s essentially new money + sprawl, like a gigantic Oakville.
Not really my cup of tea.
Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.
out of all the “western” cities ive been to, I liked Regina the most.
I have no idea why
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
But with Country Music!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
don’t forget the cowboy hats and gigantic belt buckles.
I much prefer Edmonton’s grittier blue collar + arts vibe.
Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.
/props
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
But it’s not really BC that’s wet all the time. Vancouver and the coast, yes.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the Okanagan is technically a semi-arid desert.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Worst is the bars pretending to be restaurants for liquor license reasons and then telling you that you and your friends are ‘too drunk’ to sit in the front and they could ‘lose their license’ for ‘obviously overserving’ you.
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you’ve not been “overserved” until you’ve been cut off in Vegas.
of that I can personally attest
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by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Used to be like that in BC. A lot of places won’t sell you alcohol unless you buy food and the food has to be a certain percentage of the tab. Don’t know if that’s still how they roll out there…
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We had to keep dirty dishes on our table for the entire night. We didn’t know so we thought our hot waitress was just useless so we cleared the table. Cue pandemonium.
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really..? i was partying downtown vancouver until like… at LEAST 2am… i think it was actually closer to 3 before we left the bar.
The downtown in vancouver when i was there didnt even come alive until after 11, we were looking for places to go for drinks at like 9 and it was a ghost town. By midnight the streets were packed.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Bars closing?
The bar at the end of my street is open till 2.
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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Karina, the only evidence here is the anecdotal type that supports negative feelings against Vancouver.
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
Frivolous Ornamentation
by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
thank you.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
I
dated a girl from Vancouver for 2 years, and she hated things like the “crowds” and the “weather”…
In retrospect I despise the stereotypical western viewpoint that they are somehow typically more rugged and thus more Canadian.
Vancouver is just plain annoying to me. Beautiful scenery full of a bunch of stuck up nimby jerks that have too much time and money on their hands. Oh and it’s always weird to see/speak to a racist hippy.
Toronto has it’s share of the same I just don’t think we spend as much time fixating on other parts of the country in a negative way.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
There are other parts of the country?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Vancouver is somewhere I potentially want to live and work someday, so I can put up with the bad for the good.
I lived in Victoria for 5 years/still call it home when I’m not at school. Honestly, one of the most beautiful places in BC, but also not much there for you if you’re not a hippie, a student, or old.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha
Amazing.
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Tonight...
is an awkward night in our relationship, largely because the Flames are 2-0 vs. the Leafs since we started dating. After we lost here last year I was forced to wear a Flames jersey to a future game and cheer; then, for absolutely no reason, when I took her to the ACC for the first time she put a Leaf shirt on without any coercion whatsoever and…well, didn’t cheer because we got fucking shut out.
That’s funny. I’ve never heard “Onterrible” here downeast. Nobody on the east coast dislikes Ont., (Everyone went to TO for jobs in the ’60’s & again, there’s that Quebec thing)but if someone from TO, Ottawa, etc.does something standoffish, or appears snobbish, it’s known as UCA. Upper Canadian Attitude.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Heh. When I lived in Edmonton, I was an “easterner” and when I lived in Halifax I was an “Upper Canadian”
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Lets murder the Flames tonight, as well as burn their goddamned arena down.
by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 16, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Bob Cole is awesome
and anybody who doesn’t think so is probably under 20 and has no idea what hockey is supposed to sound like. Bob Cole is the best of his generation.
And I have no idea why that would be a reason for the Leafs stinking.
by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Typical ’Western Leafs hater" logic, I guess.
by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
He is, but did you ever get to listen to Foster Hewitt? Iconic.
by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. I hear both of them when the morning show guy on Fan960 does their impression mockingly. Fuck I hate the Flames.
The Belorussian buzz saw only has one setting:
HYPERDEATH!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Dec 16, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. I miss this guy so much. I still remember his calling of the ’98 Olympics.
This is it. He’s gotta make this one. He’s gotta score… No.
It was a perfect set-up, a perfect soft-spoken anti-climax. Perfect pause. The guy is play-by-play gold, and with Harry Neale they were the gold standard of hockey commentary. I listened to the Edmonton guys last game, and I’ve heard the commentary from lots of different cities in the league… Edmonton was just straight up boring, and most commentary is pure crap. We’ve been really blessed with good commentators in TO. I like Joe Bowen too, but could do without Millen.
/rant
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I can still hear his voice in my head.
I watched that game alone in my room at like 4 in the morning, I woke the house up when Linden scored the tying goal.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
so close…
/sigh
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
The Flames on Sportsnet have the worst broadcasters ever. Peter Lombardias or whoever has such an annoying voice, even worse than Edmonton’s announcers.
by theninjagreg on Dec 16, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
that is saying a lot. i wanted to fall asleep from the Oilers announcing team. they managed to turn that exciting first period into a snooze-fest. i actually found myself looking away often, getting distracted,etc. for shame!
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Oh no they didn't
13. Because of three words: Bob ‘Freaking’ Cole! Watching the game with Punjabi commentators made more sense and kept you better informed … even if you couldn’t understand Punjabi.
15. Because they now get HNIC’s top broadcast team for play-by-play, Jim Hughson and Craig Simpson — who used to be the West tandem.
They can have Jim Hughson back, and take Healy with them.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
seriously, take them please.
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
fuck calgary. And continue enjoying that awesome Matt stajan hockey, err when he’s not a healthy scratch
Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10
by Future_considerations on Dec 16, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
yes that too!
Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10
by Future_considerations on Dec 16, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Extremely likely to happen at some point tonight. Stajan’s first game back, he’ll be rusty on top of his usual level of suck. Add Schenn and Dion (and even Beauchemin can drop bombs too)… and things might get ugly.
Stajan is REALLY good at getting his clock cleaned between the blue lines too.
That’s Dion territory
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Mix in a little bit of Army hammering JBo on the forecheck (ok maybe more than a little) and you’ve got a recipe for destruction.
too bad Brown is out, I want to see him make a mess on the forcheck
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
13. Because of three words: Bob ‘Freaking’ Cole! Watching the game with Punjabi commentators made more sense and kept you better informed … even if you couldn’t understand Punjabi.
I know he’s only 77 years young, but Cole needs to retire.
Fire. Wilson. Now. Anger is more useful than despair.
by Peter de Chatham on Dec 16, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a die-hard lifelong Bob Cole fan and I have to agree. Still love to hear him but its just not quite the same.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Dec 16, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
He gets stuff wrong all time time. Like confusing Macarthur with Macintire in the Oilers game.
Yeah, he has a great voice for it, but he’s just not as quick to identify players, or plays, for that matter anymore. to put it kindly.
Fire. Wilson. Now. Anger is more useful than despair.
by Peter de Chatham on Dec 16, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
He’s suffered from not having the Leafs’ all of the time. He used to at least know all of their names and that’s really all I care about anymore. His voice is the best and his framing is still top-notch.
He should be a colour guy now.
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he needs Harry Neal to keep him grounded
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The game needs to be interesting. Bob Cole is at his best in high-paced games that are intense and meaningful.
Toronto vs. Florida mid-week puts Bob Cole to sleep just like everybody else.
by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Hey cool you enjoy Hughson who verbally deep throats everyone who plays against the Leafs and his Greeeeat saaaaaaaaaaaaave crap.
Bob Cole is a legend
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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35. Because you traded us Nikolai Borschevsky, who was more at home with the Moscow Ballet.
The author needs to die for this one alone.
by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Borschevsky was good as a Leaf. Keyword: as a Leaf.
Caveat emptor, Calgary.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Here he is complaining again about a trade that THEY WILLINGLY MADE.
by theninjagreg on Dec 16, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Tells us all we need to know...
2. Because of Heist No. 1 — Flames fans justifiably felt violated after Doug Gilmour, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville, Jamie Macoun and Rick Wamsley were sent packing by Doug Risebrough for Gary Leeman, Craig Berube, Alexander Godynyuk, Jeff Reese, and Michel Petit. Thanks Doug.
3. Because of Heist No. 2 — Deja boo for Flames fans as Brian Burke bamboozles Darryl Sutter into giving up one of his top three assets for a handful of extras. Dion Phaneuf, Fredrik Sjostrom, Keith Aulie for Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Ian White and Jamal Meyers. Geez, nice one, Darryl.
4. Because the Flames have never fleeced them in a trade.
I hope the Calgary Sun can make some of those sour grapes into a decent-tasting whine.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
I’m really tired of Canadian’s inferiority complex towards Toronto. I never heard anyone in Toronto walking around going ‘Canada sucks’ or ‘small town idiots’ etc. No one here ever said we’re the centre of the universe. Where the hell did this come from? I go to the CBC forums at work cuz it’s the only website I get. The amount of Toronto and Leafs hate is unreal. Leafs article comments have 500 responses and 400 of them are about how they hate the fact that the CBC reports on the Leafs. The article about the Habs game tonight had 12 comments when I read it and 9 mentioned the Leafs. I think the Leafs should start doing pre-game ceremonies where Andy Frost derides small town Canada and laughs maniacally before the Leafs are introduced. “And now your starting lineup for the centre of the universe. starting in goal for Canada’s team Jonas ‘Thank god I don’t play in Edmonton’ Gustavsson’. On Defense Tomas ‘I like the fact that Toronto has a subway’ Kaberle and at forward Phil ‘Yaaaaaaaay the corner store isn’t in another province’ Kessel.”
October 25, 1966. Thank you Lord Kelvin
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 16, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
I actually love this idea
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
That was a really well drawn parallel.
by ShahofToronto on Dec 16, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Great suggestions. I find that on sites like TSN/CBC/Sportsnet, there are fucking hundreds of completely unprovoked hate comments about the Leafs in stories that might not even be about the Leafs at all. There’s no point even worrying about it, we’re so big we don’t even waste time thinking about the haters.
Perfect example: the city of Ottawa launches a campaign to ban Leaf fans from their arena. We would never do that. Let the Sens fans come, we know they’re stupid and funny so we just welcome them with open arms.
That Bob Cole comment makes me irate.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
He’s calling the Habs/Bruins game right now, doing a fine job, rest of the crew, garbage.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
as usual. why the hell did they get rid of the cole/neale combo? still frustrates the hell outta me.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Neale lives in Buffalo and felt he was getting too old to do the commute.
Took a job as the PBP for Sabres games.
"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 17, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
ook a job as thePBPColour for Sabres games.
Fixed
"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 17, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
except for the ‘T’
"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 17, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
“It is sad and pathetic that Sun Media has to make every sentence it’s own paragraph but that speaks to their target audience. "
That’s funny shit.
I laughed pretty hard.
It be pretty cool if Toronto demo’d Calgary tonight.
Some more scoring from Phanuef and Kessel would be great.
BS
I will have a smile on my face for a month if Phaneuf can bury one tonight and we pull off the win
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
In OT. with a dirty fist pump, or a hulk hogan ear cup.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Hulk Hogan ear cup for the win. Would be so awesome
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
someone photoshop this please
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
He needs to follow it up with a DX “Suck It” gesture to the crowd, but that’s just me.
by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 16, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
then punches jokinen in the face, sets a gas can on fire, and skates away without looking at the explosion.
then he turns to a camera and goes " the flames are toast."
puts on glasses
YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Almost correct.
An excellent idea, but for true style, he should don the glasses between ‘The Flames’ and ‘are toast’.
Dion
I wonder if part of the issue with Phaneuf was that he pointed out the teams holes and people didn’t want to hear it. Think of him barking at Burke that we needed bigger forwards. He was probably telling that their window was closed and they should ship out guys like Regher, Iginla, and Kipper. He obviously didn’t say that, but I wonder if he was making the same kind of suggestions there.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 2:15 PM EST reply actions
I can see that
he probably didnt like the things the leadership was saying either, maybe he saw fault in the way Iggy ran the team? who knows
but of course Iggy is a fantastic leader because…..because why again? I mean he is an awesome player and all, but I can’t for the life of me think of a shining example of his exemplary leadership
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Cup runs make a team do crazy things.
I always think of how ballsy it was of Fletcher to trade Wendel for Sundin.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
The guy doesn’t seem to have a filter with his team (with the media yes) so I could see that.
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Why can’t I buy ONLY the games on Leafs TV on-line? Why do I have to buy their whole stupid interactive package?
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 2:34 PM EST reply actions
Because they know you’re an anti-Wilson rabblerouser ;)
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Somewhat unrelated but...
I haven’t seen this posted in any of the other threads. Add it to the Waffle collection.

Still funny. If we can’t laugh at ourself, what are we? Sens fans. That’s what.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I laughed.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Come on, you’d laugh it was Army.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Heh, some one fanshotted this earlier in the week.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I'm in
southern Alberta right now and I plan on being extremely smug after the Leafs beat, break and stomp all over AHLberta’s other team
Can’t wait.
I lost a bet.
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I’m listening to the media scrum from earlier today with Dion, he sounds PUMPED to be facing his old team.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
Dion lives for the open-ice hit, and Matt Stajan spent 6 years here never remembering to lift his head up coming across the blueline.
I hope for his sake Stajan is scratched tonight because he might die otherwise.
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He's not scratched.
Pretty sure Stajan is playing tonight.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure he’ll be in a morgue by tomorrow morning :P
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha
I wrote mine without reading yours.
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With Matt Stajan in the lineup, I guarantee there will be at least one time that a player crosses the middle and admires the play.
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The Phaneuf mask versteeg is wearing reminds me of Michael Myers from Halloween….
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
That was apparently a Captain Kirk mask dyed white.
by potvin vs hextall on Dec 16, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
One problem I can see happening
Is Phaneuf suffering from Komisarek-itis, where his first game back against his old club he tries to do way too much and ends up creating odd-man rushes by trying to throw the big hit.
Ugh, Dion just done make any boneheaded defensive errors tonight. I realize that’s asking a lot.
20 miles to Legoland!
Don’t you remember when he first came to TO? He tried to do way too much and was awesome at it. He doesn’t have Komisarekitis, he’s got Phaneuf Syndrome. He’ll wreck the building tonight!
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Calgary, what a joke.
I think the count is now 21 of 22 seasons where they’ve either missed the playoffs or been eliminated in the first round. The only time they won a playoff series was during their fluke cup run, which deluded their fans into thinking the organization actually had a f8cking clue. Which is doesn’t.
Sad.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
Yup, they think their window is still open.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Calgary = Ottawa east.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
err… west
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
If you travel further enough east you’ll get there.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
And even Ottawa could get out of the first fucking round when they weren’t playing us or (as of 2008) Pittsburgh!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
just like Edmonton soon after them. And Ottawa. and, to some extent, Montreal (honestly, if Price weren’t the best goalie in the league this year, where would that team be sitting?).
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
It pains me to say it, but Ottawa had the most legitimate team of that group. The rest…. pure flukery.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
Definitely. The Flames run was insane though, they were like some of those early 2000s Leafs teams.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
it’s true. but their guys were playing their best hockey. Murray made the mistake continuing along with essentially the same group for too long.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Good points but Tim Thomas would like a word…
by Grabovski's better than you think on Dec 16, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
Carey Price is down to .931.
He is now only the 4th best goalie in the league, behind Thomas, Pavelec and Quick.
Weirdest stat regarding Carey Price
the three teams he has his lowest SV% against this season are:
Edmonton, Columbus, and the NYI.
Teams he has his highest SV% against are:
Vancouver, Boston, San Jose, LA Kings.
He does well against top competition, so it’s sort of hard to imagine him suddenly sucking.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
also
he’s 3-0 against Buffalo this year, and 3-1 against Ottawa… those two teams shitting the bed so far this year really isn’t hurting him.
Against Florida, Toronto, Edmonton, New Jersey, and the Islanders he’s combined to go 3-3-1 with a .909 SV%… he’s looked pretty human against some pretty weak offensive teams.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Montreal fans
be wary of anointing him the saviour just yet.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
The game Price played against the Leafs he played quite well and they likely would have lost without him. Stats in aggregate are often useful, but stats from just a few games might not mean too much.
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
The game he shut out the Leafs, rather.
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
anyone going to the WJC exhibition game at the ACC on tuesday?
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
Yup.
Section 309 baby, going to rock my Rick Nash Team Canada jersey.
I don’t give a shit if it’s a foul or not.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
not if you’re made of money
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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Welcome
Thanks for joining. You can try scalpers at this point.
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It’s only an exhibition game so I doubt it’s sold out. Check ticketmaster.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, i figured since it was an exhibition game
I might have a shot.
Just as a point of comparison, how much on average are tickets to Leafs games?
A lot more, i’d guess approx 4x as much.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
since I’m a poor student, I guess I’m just gonna have to rely on Santa being extra generous this year.
Here is the link to the game. Upper deck seats are around $30 after taxes and fees.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
holy pictures, batman.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
love
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
I went to Matchsticks and Gasoline to see what they have to say about tonights game but no one has posted anything there in 2 days
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 5:36 PM EST reply actions
other SBN sites continually disappoint me with their lack of content.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
That's because
there’s far fewer contributors to the sites. Also – their fans generally don’t know how to turn a computer on… j.k.
The westerners are just too busy burning Rob Ford in effigy, because lord knows our politicians are a bunch of liberal elite pinko bastards (p.s. when did Liberal AND Elite AND Pinko all start to mean the same thing?? You mean you like to do whatever you want, as long as you get paid a LOT of money to do it, but then give it all back to the collective – who all have to sign off on whatever it is you want to do???? Interesting.)
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
They have the 24hr waiting period, cuss.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a member.
Tell me what you want communicated to the Flames faithful and i shall be your intermediary.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
She’s in exams.
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29. Because of the non-stop belief every player from Southern Ontario would kill to play in Toronto, or do it for a fraction of the salary they expect elsewhere. Ain’t true.
Correct it “ain’t” true. Western Canadian boys also have been known to take a discount to play for the leafs such as the mighty Clark MacArthur.
"There's been four different Cup winners the last four years, and I got one of them (Anaheim) and it was a fighting team. We're playing it that way regardless." - B. Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs GM
Holy fuckballs, I can’t wait! A couple coworkers that I’m going to the game with decorated my office with Shames jerseys, so I’m soaking up the karma points now in the hopes that I can redeem them tonight.
GO LEAFS GO!!!
The Belorussian buzz saw only has one setting:
HYPERDEATH!
- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Dec 16, 2010 5:40 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
GO LEAFS GO!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you should have lit them on fire claiming it was surrealistic art
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
I just looked at the standings and . . .
We are 8 points out of a playoff spot. But we are only 10 points out of the division lead. So if the Leafs go on a magical run to claim the 8th and final playoff spot, it wouldn’t be THAT much more unrealistic to claim 3rd in the conference.
Of course 8th is an obvious long shot and I really would never want to set the bar that high, but it just shows that the northeast could get somewhat competitive.
Leaf fan in Edmonton.
The Leafs are in a race of fail for 9th right now. Lets start with the bar there.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
Fun quote from Shea Weber in an interview with James Duthie today:
JD: What specifically does Barry Trotz do so well to survive in an era when a coach’s shelf life keeps getting shorter and shorter?
SW: Adjusting to the kind of team we have. Our off-season changes in Nashville have been pretty drastic. We’ve lost some great players over the years. He realizes each year what we need to do to win with that specific group. If its play with speed, that’s what we do. If its play defensively, that’s what we do. He’s willing to make those changes from year-to-year.
He also says in the interview that he’s staying in Nashville and that he’ll have a contract eventually, so naturally the press will continue talking about the possibility that Nashville can’t afford him and he’ll try to pressure them to move him.
This is revealing. I remember talking earlier about how coach’s need to adapt to their teams, be willing to change their systems. This is what I believe RW’s biggest failing is here in TO.
Shoebacca - the PK Wookie
by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not gonna lie
Based on my current feelings, if the Leafs win, I could get banned from M&G for being a giant dick.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions
Amen.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
A giant dick is the best kind of dick to be.
by ShahofToronto on Dec 16, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
I’m actually writing a snarky blog post in response to the CGY Sun article. I’ll post a link when it’s done.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
I love snarky posts aimed at other teams/fans and their media, looking forward to this.
by ShahofToronto on Dec 16, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Off I Go
Off to the game, ladies and gents. I’m starting out at Bob the Fish; this is also where I watched the men’s gold medal game, so the positive vibes should be positively dripping off the walls.
GO LEAFS GO!!1
And extra extra loud when Dion scores!
Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
Your signature needs more Grabbo love.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
What’s the initiation process for becoming a certified Grabbo lover?
Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
Saying mean things about the Tits Brothers.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
the Tits Brothers
we all sprang from apes, they just didn’t spring far enough
Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
Now make your own Grabbo quote.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
In Soviet Belarus, pineapple stabs you!
(this has probably been done already)
Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
Not sure, but the thought of a knife wielding Pineapple scares me.
Well done, you’re a certified Grabbo lover, add it to your signature!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
done!
That was easy
Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
Recently-converted Certified Grabbo lover
I forgot to mention my fee.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
fiiiiiine
Here are some freshly baked chocolate chip cookies. Cool?
Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
Recently-converted Certified Grabbo lover
Yup. Welcome aboard.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Snarky blog post, complete at long last:
Enjoy this as a nice pre-game read:
http://50-mission-cap.blogspot.com/2010/12/calgary-sun-not-even-worth-puppy-or.html
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 7:57 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Thought it was the TV Title Match? Or U.S. Title?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
This is also relevant

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
so is this…

Shoebacca - the PK Wookie
by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
this is awesome
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 17, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know who else is watchin
the Habs-Bruins game, but why the hell do Mike Milbury and PJ Stock get paid by our national public broadcaster to convince people that “fighting to stand up for yourself” is something that is necessary after making a clean hockey hit?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Because it’s the CBC.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
It actually bothers me quite a bit
that the public broadcaster in Canada pays an American hockey player who played his entire career in the US, and only managed American teams, to sit there and tell us hockey players need to be tougher.
Not that Don Cherry is any different, but seriously, wtf? It’s just so amazingly idiotic.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
I understand the desire to stand up for teammates, but not after every hit. They should start handing out 2 minute roughing minors for those sorts of instances.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
See
what Colton Orr did the other night against Stortini – after he tried to knee Grabovski? THAT is standing up for your team-mates after a dirty play.
The fact that Subban caught Marchand with his head down is Marchand’s fault, it’s not like you’d ask Subban to NOT deliver that hit… he did what he was supposed to and he did it very well.
As for Lapierre’s elbow at Thornton’s face… who gives a crap… they’re both idiots… and neither one plays a particularly important role on the ice.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Was going to use the same example.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
but that’s what a lot of canadians believe as well. so they’re just pandering to the masses.
either that or they just want him there because he makes for “good” tv (by saying overthetop inflammatory things and acting like a general ass).
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
I actually don't think
most canadians would believe that if they weren’t told it on a weekly basis. I think if you had someone go on TV and regularly explain why dropping your gloves to take on the competition after you make a clean hit is a stupid play because you end up in the Penalty Box for no good reason, then people would understand that to be a decent play.
Just because some hockey dads like to blow a gasket and threaten coaches and refs at games doesn’t mean that the entirety of the hockey watching public thinks punching the blood out of all comers at the drop of a hat is the way to win a hockey game.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Grapes does this on a weekly basis.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
He also
tries to pretend that by visiting the occasional military base for photo opportunities that he’s doing a lot to “support the troops”… he obviously has a sense of guilt over not serving in the military when it was meaningful.
If he really wants to support the troops, maybe he should lobby government to bring them home so they stop dying and losing limbs to land mines and roadside bombs – he has a nice pulpit which he uses for completely inappropriate reasons. He isn’t a qualified political expert, and I don’t really think his hockey opinions matter much either.
He’s also going senile. He’s an angry, small minded bigot, who is apparently a national icon. That is disturbing in a lot of ways.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
He’s a sideshow for sure, the best part is that he works for a government funded broadcaster which is about as “Pinko” as it gets. He wouldn’t be able to get away with what he does on pretty much any other network.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
he’s one of the richest public servants in Canada… and he calls the people that ride bikes to work and make about 1/100th of his annual salary “pinkos” … and Rob Ford asks him to help him “end the gravy train”…
Ironic doesn’t even begin to describe that situation.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
I’m reminded of Adam Proteau’s tweet from the other day:
Think of the absurdity of being a hockey fan & a conservative: It’s all about the team & self-sacrifice! But only on the ice, Commie Scum!
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Boggles the mind, of course Cherry would see no conflict there.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder
if he got an appearance fee.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
hmmmmmmmm
That would be interesting to know.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
We can agree to disagree. You have a definite, formed political opinion which is converse to Cherry’s. That ignites hatred to the guy. About his hockey opinions not having much value – at the very least he fills the role of showing why fighting and standing up for yourself is appropriate, which is what you’ve just stated you wished the CBC would have on a weekly basis.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
No what ignites
hatred for the guy is his resemblance to my father, but that’s neither here nor there… it doesn’t change the fact that he’s amazingly offensive with alarming regularity.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think fighting and standing up for yourself
is necessarily appropriate in every situation.
I think it’s of value at very specific moments in time… but frankly not all that necessary.
I don’t think what Stock and Milbury were advocating is remotely defensible.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Forgive me. I’ve been out of the country for a while, and don’t get to watch Cherry regularly. I don’t know everything he’s saying now, but the few times I’ve seen him he’s seemed ok. I don’t mind him putting up pictures of men/women who’ve died. It seems like he’s sincere, so I don’t mind it. Anyways, I’m typing with one hand here, and can’t keep up with you. I’ll bow out of this discussion with a simple, cordial ‘I disagree.’
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure it's sincere
and I just think it’s bizarre to “support” and “honour” an organization that’s performing a task that’s so far from the every-day Canadian’s life but so obviously horrible and dangerous, by throwing up a picture on a hockey telecast.
It cheapens the whole damn thing to me. I don’t feel like it’s respectful, I feel like it’s… creepy? Why not list the name and face of every troop over there so they can know they were honoured before they died, so they can feel like the people in Canada gave a crap about what they were doing before they got blown up?
They also never seem to read names or show pictures of troops that are just injured… some of those people are maimed for life, and they’re ignored because they weren’t quite lucky enough to die? It’s surreal to me.
I respect that you disagree, I just don’t think any of it makes any sense and it bothers me. Apologies if I’m offending you with this, I’m not trying to attack you personally in the slightest, I just seriously have a problem with Cherry…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
No worries, no offense taken. Opinions are just that. Discussing Cherry will take us a long time and the issues you raise would also require a lengthy discussion. Like I said, I’m typing one-handed here (torn forearm muscle in my right hand) and I don’t want to enter into it now. Too much work, and I’m lazy and ‘teaching’ a class now.
Shoebacca - the PK Wookie
by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
with no comment on whether or not we should be 'peacekeeping' abroad
the older i get, and the more comfortable my life gets, and the more i get to enjoy watching my girls growing up, i find myself having a lot more respect for people who choose a job that is dangerous and takes them away from their families.
i’m the least patriotic guy you’ll meet, but i like it when cherry shows the troops.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
Gotta agree with Daoust. I see no issue with showing the troops. Regardless of where you stand on the war, it’s still important to remember that the people who die overseas are still real people and not just numbers.
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Showing the Troops
Someone has to – at least he has a large audience to do this.
Kudos to him for that.
"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 17, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
people who think that fighting is OK and people who threaten coaches and refs in minor hockey are not one and the same.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody said they were
I sincerely doubt that Don Cherry or Brian Burke are the sort to yell at children at a hockey game.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
The NHL should start handing out instigator penalties for those “we need to avenge a clean hit” fights. You shouldn’t need to defend yourself from getting punched in the face every time you land a good body check.
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
I like Don Cherry. Kill me. Yeah, it’ frustrating, the decisions that our national, tax-funded broadcasting company makes, but what are you going to do. I don’t know when the last time there was enough public outrage to make anything government-related change. Milbury is a shoe. I wouldn’t compare him to grapes because MM has minimal hockey knowledge and no personality. Grapes has points to make, and backs up his claims – the points he makes are debatable, but still. Also, he has personality. It’s not like watching a cardboard cutout.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Unlike Milbury, Cherry does actually make some valuable hockey insights. His xenophobia is still ridiculous.
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Man if we had zenon konopka on our team we could totally talk about others teams having Zenophobia.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Had to look up xenophobia, ha ha ha.
I agree completely, but the guy is Canadian and patriotic. It’s kind of refreshing to have that side represented.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t want to live in Don Cherry’s Canada.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Patriotism
and Sports are far too closely linked.
It’s ridiculous that a bunch of overweight baby boomers take pride in a bunch of jamaican/canadian athletes that train at universities in Texas and race in Europe once ever 4 years for about 10 seconds of their lives.
It blows my mind that anyone pretends that they have ANYTHING to do with these people being successful.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Sports are historically linked with patriotism. I lived in the States for a while and live in South Korea now. I find their patriotism during national events inspiring. Sporting events, IMO, are a great way to bring a country together.
Aside from that, you can’t tell me that you don’t love watching Canada in International Hockey tournaments. I love it when we win the gold in the Olympics, and I also like the unity b/w fans of rival NHL teams.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Wars
are also a great way to bring countries together… not sure I think that’s necessarily a positive.
Remember Nazi Germany? They seemed pretty unified to the outside world.
American style patriotism and jingoism is ugly in most aspects. It reinforces xenophobic tendencies and it serves as a very convenient method for those in power to manipulate the public.
Sports are closely linked to militaristic inklings, and that’s largely intentional.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
I love watching
international sports because I enjoy watching the best athletes in the world do what they do at the highest level.
I like watching the USA basketball team.
I like watching the NZ All Blacks play rugby.
Do I live in or have any personal connection to either country? No.
Watching Canada’s hockey team win doesn’t make me feel some sort of increased level of pride in my government or our national defense policy… the two are completely separate.
Canada as an “idea” sure it’s nice to think about.
Canada in reality has some serious problems and I’d rather they fix some of them before things fall off a cliff… but call me crazy.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
I cheer for Canada at the Olympics because it’s fun, but I don’t feel like their winning/losing is an accurate reflection of anything outside of hockey. It’s like cheering for the Leafs – it’s fun, but I don’t think it says anything about the city of Toronto.
by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
This assumes
that we’d replace Don Cherry or Mike Milbury with a cardboard cutout. Obviously this is an absurd position to take.
Please provide me a reason why we couldn’t find a better, less politically offensive, and less idiotic analyst to do the same job.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
MOAR Elliot Friedman and Jeff Marek!!!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
hell even Glenn Healy bother’s me less than Don Cherry and Mike Milbury.
They’re being paid for their opinions on hockey, not on who the toughest idiots on the ice are, or how awesome the troops are.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
With all due respect…..shit I can’t think of a way to talk about Healy without using terribly obscene language.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't say I think he's awesome
I just like him more than Milbury.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t decide which one I hate less.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Wow its a freakin ghosttown
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, yeah, titles. My bad.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
15. Because they now get HNIC’s top broadcast team for play-by-play, Jim Hughson and Craig Simpson — who used to be the West tandem
take them back please
by pho king awesome on Dec 16, 2010 8:30 PM EST reply actions
David Krejci
just beat Cammalleri pretty bad… even if the Habs fans liked watching a smurf get into it with his fists.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Cammi was bleeding more, but I’d say he won the bout. He at least got the takedown, and also cut up Krejci. I was pretty impressed.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
they both got some good shots in, ide call it a toss up cause cammi got the takedown
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lower centre of gravity
helps with that…
I still think Krejci’s shots to the head of Cammi were a bit stronger.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd
Thank you for this link. So the Leafs need a .600 win% to have a good chance at the playoffs? That seems ‘reasonable’… ?
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
To have around a 50% shot.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Sadly, that is a HUGE positive around here. Plus it’s above 50%, so that’s at least a glass half-full scenario.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
You have to be careful with the math
There are multiple ways of computing the expectation. The one listed above is “weighted”:
The weighted method takes the opponents record and home field advantage into account when randomly picking scores, so the better team is more likely to win.
If you use the 50/50 method, which gives each chance an equal shot of winning each game regardless of home advantage or prior record, our shot at playoffs skyrockets to 28%.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting. I’m terrible at this stuff. Regardless of that fact, with our current Home win record and Away win record, we’d be on pace for 18 wins the rest of the season (10 home and 8 away). That’d be around a 40% chance of ‘maybe’ making the playoffs, with a projected ‘no.’ Hopefully we’re through the worst part of the season now and we’ll have an above .500 win%.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
30 wins the rest of the way would give an 80% chance. I’m gonna look at the schedule and see how feasible that isappears.
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions

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