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Dion Phaneuf is taking his job as face of the franchise a little too seriously.

On January 31st Brian Burke made the second trade that will define his tenure as the General Manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs. He sent Matt "Healthy Scratch" Stajan, Jamal Mayers, Ian "Moustachulent" White, and Niklas "Hot Wife" Hagman to Calgary in return for prospect Keith Aulie, Fredrik Sjostrom, and Dion Phaneuf. Tonight, Dion Phaneuf is going to get booed to high heaven for the crime of caring too much and having too many established leaders on his team. Luckily, he stepped into a massive leadership vacuum in Toronto.

The Leafs will once again be playing in front of a Leafs-friendly crowd. It'll be vital to get out in front early to keep the crowd engaged. It would be a hell of a night for the Edmonton-born Phaneuf to pick up his second goal of the year. You can read another preview by SkinnyFish over at LeafsNation here.

Star-divide

Starting Goalies:

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2010 - Jean-Sebastien Giguere 17 988 8 6 44 2.67 430 386 .898 0
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2010 - Miikka Kiprusoff 26 1561 11 14 71 2.73 782 711 .909 3

Giguere's coming off of two fine performances against Montreal and Edmonton in which he only allowed two goals which allowed our pop-gun offence to win. Kiprusoff, as has been the case every year, is getting buried with work and doing an acceptable job. Not enough to help the team overcome their structural limitations but they might be New Jersey or New York Islanders bad if not for him.

But the real story, nay, the only story tonight, is the return of Dion Phaneuf. So in case you've missed out, here's some pre-game reading:

Phaneuf never asked for the deal. But he took his wicked shot, his appetite for dishing out heavy hits, his somewhat erratic approach to defending, to Toronto, where his act has been met with mixed reviews.

What kind of reaction can the 25-year-old expect Thursday?

Cheers? Jeers? A mixture?

- Scott Cruickshank, Calgary Herald

Boos. The answer is that he is going to hear boos every time he touches the puck. Only an idiot would suggest otherwise. But should he get boos?

Should Calgary Flames fans boo Dion Phaneuf? That's the question they're asking themselves and each other in anticipation of the Toronto Maple Leafs' visit this evening. Because it's not just a question of Phaneuf's legacy with the franchise but of the franchise's decision to jettison him.

Which is to say that on the occasion of his hockey homecoming, it's as much about the Dion Phaneuf Trade as it is about Dion Phaneuf.

- Greg Wyshynski, Puck Daddy

If anyone should be booed at this point it should be Darryl Sutter. Through the trade and the subsequent contracts to Ian White and Matt Stajan he torpedoed the notion that he's peddling now that the deal was meant to create cap space in order to (over)pay Mark Giordano and Rene Bourque. At least the latter is one of the Flames players. And then, he tossed in the franchise's best defensive prospect:

Aulie was the only prospect that switched teams, and could be a prized pickup long-term.

The 21-year-old defenceman filled in on a banged-up Leafs blueline this season and has shown he’s already nearly ready for full-time work in the league.

He’s nothing flashy, but the 6-foot-5, 217-pounder hasn’t been prone to make many mistakes.

His addition only further tips the scale in favour of the Leafs when you look at the deal.

Instead of the Flames receiving a young, promising prospect — be it on the blueline or in the forward ranks — GM Darryl Sutter coughed one up in Aulie, on top of his blue-chip banger Phaneuf.

- Steve MacFarlane, Calgary Sun

It is sad and pathetic that Sun Media has to make every sentence it's own paragraph but that speaks to their target audience. The fact that Calgary threw in the prospect makes me laugh. Darryl Sutter, you can be our trade partner anytime.

There was certainly no disrespect intended in Versteeg’s gag. Anything but. It was nothing more than an icebreaker to relax the Leafs’ mood and probably intended as a gentle leg-pull at the media horde assembled solely to talk to the ex-Flame about his return to Calgary.

- George Johnson, Calgary Herald

The media horde then went to Darryl Sutter's office to transcribe his official statement:

"I don’t regret the deal at all," said Sutter.

"It’s good for both teams."

- Eric Francis, Calgary Sun

This was the brilliant conclusion where Francis helped get the managment story out without being too overt about it.

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Looking forward to Leaf Feats of Strength, then?

by Learn2Leaf on Dec 16, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll see you at the game, friend.

by theninjagreg on Dec 16, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I’LL SEE YOU BITCHEZ AT THE GAME!!!1

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by Sergei Puckizin on Dec 16, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

There was an interesting discussion at the Torontoist about this “every sentence it’s own paragraph” issue. Interestingly it was written by the managing editor of the Sun.

More on topic: GO LEAFS GO!!!
I love that Phaneuf is the type of player who enjoys being booed.

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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

I couldn’t read that…it hurt my eyes.

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

was that our Fergus on the comments? The Sun is a newspaper for morons.

October 25, 1966. Thank you Lord Kelvin

by Chuck Diesel on Dec 16, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

whoa hagmans wife is indeed hot

Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10

by Future_considerations on Dec 16, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

He sent Matt “Healthy Scratch” Stajan, Jamal Mayers, Ian “Moustachulent” White, and Niklas “Hot Wife” Hagman to Calgary in return for prospect Keith Aulie, Fredrik Sjostrom, and Dion Phaneuf.

Incidentally, did you know what the term “Hot Wife” means? Pretty big insult to Hagman, but given the sordid rumours of affairs that were supposedly part of the Calgary dressing room, perhaps he fits right in!

Fire. Wilson. Now. Anger is more useful than despair.

by Peter de Chatham on Dec 16, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Jesus

No. I will google ‘Hot Wife’ later!

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

1. hot wife

A sexually uninhibited married woman with both the freedom and inclination/desire to enjoy sex with both her husband and other men.

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh

Well, I meant it in the normally accepted fashion that means that when I look at pictures of his wife I think “Yowza!”.

Then again, he’s not a Leaf anymore…

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Or perhaps they fit right in ;)

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

43 reasons why the Leafs stink!
1. Because of Leafs Nation? — C’mon, at least be original with your catchy little catch-all catch-phrase to describe the foaming-at-the-mouth, rabid, raving fanbase. Insufferable doesn’t begin to describe Leafs fans.
6. Because LEAFS is not even a proper word. It’s LEAVES. They can’t even get that right.
13. Because of three words: Bob ‘Freaking’ Cole! Watching the game with Punjabi commentators made more sense and kept you better informed … even if you couldn’t understand Punjabi.
14. Because, hey, Eric Lindros is going to be a Leaf! Too bad they had to wait until he was more broken than Wendel Clark, another GREATEST GUY EVER built from peanut brittle!
33. Because it’s an organization so short-term greedy, it can’t think of how another team in the area would benefit the Leafs. Hey, be like the L.A. Lakers with the second-class Clippers in their building.
40. Because their disgruntled fans throw waffles on the ice. What’s with that? Can’t they find any bricks?

I hope we fucking murder them tonight.

Negative. I am a meat popsicle.

by birky on Dec 16, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

8. Because, snicker, snicker, they traded two No.-1 picks for Phil Kessell. Almost takes away the bitter taste from the Gilmour/Phaneuf robberies. We said almost.

NO!!!!1 It was bad enough trading two first-rounders for Phil Kessel…but now we’ve gone and done it again??!

Who’s Phil Kessell, by the way?

by NWOntario on Dec 16, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know, never heard of him

by badomen on Dec 16, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I only scanned this, but I think I can boil it down to one point:

1. Because no one gives a rats ass about Calgary and that MUST be Toronto’s fault. Boo hoo.

That said, since everyone else seems to write the phrase “self-appointed center of the universe”, isn’t it a given now? I mean, who would be a better judge of the center than the center? Everyone else is outside looking in.

by Learn2Leaf on Dec 16, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s the Sun.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

NNN’ing this shit tonight before the game.

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I like how they mention traded 1st round picks, THEY TRADED ONE FOR JOKINEN!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They then re-signed him after he stank.

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Brandon Gormley would’ve definitely looked way better than Steve Staios and Cory Sarich on the blueline.

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This season is all a terrible dream brought on by too much Penne a la Pesto.

by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 16, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s so out of date

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Ho-Lee-Fuck. I’ve never had a genuine hate on for Calgary before, but now its full blown.

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

keep in mind, this is the same umbrella organization that steals from PPP, so it’s not too surprising they write idiotic nonsense to rile up the whole “LAFFS 1967!!!1” Crowd.

Motion to Change “GO FLYERS!!!1” to “GO FLAMES!!!1” for one night only?

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

or as they say in Alberta YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWW!

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Flames Fan

YEEEHAW I’M GONNA GO HUFF SOME GAS AND SIT AND WATCH THE FLAMES

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s the Sun.

Other teams read the Toronto Sun and think that represents the fanbase. Let’s not be as ignorant.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

but the Toronto Sun gets it’s content from here, so at least it’s more well informed…

When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till

by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Just because you can copy/paste doesn’t mean you can actually read/comprehend.

by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This has inspired me to write a sarcastic blog post.

You can find it later tonight.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

why does eveyone hate us? :(

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

they are jealous of our good looks and excellent posture

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

/stops slouching

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

/combs hair

Shoebacca - the PK Wookie

by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This is pathetic by Sun Media standards. Like, I can’t actually conceive of a single human being reading this article and laughing at a single one of its forty-three points.

Conversely, if we did "1 reason why the Flames stink list here and it read

1. Darryl Sutter

EVERYONE would laugh.

by NWOntario on Dec 16, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I laughed. In fact I LOLed.

by schennsational on Dec 16, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

counterpoint

I didn’t laugh, I chuckled

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins

by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

2. Because of Heist No. 1 — Flames fans justifiably felt violated after Doug Gilmour, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville, Jamie Macoun and Rick Wamsley were sent packing by Doug Risebrough for Gary Leeman, Craig Berube, Alexander Godynyuk, Jeff Reese, and Michel Petit. Thanks Doug.

3. Because of Heist No. 2 — Deja boo for Flames fans as Brian Burke bamboozles Darryl Sutter into giving up one of his top three assets for a handful of extras. Dion Phaneuf, Fredrik Sjostrom, Keith Aulie for Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Ian White and Jamal Meyers. Geez, nice one, Darryl.

4. Because the Flames have never fleeced them in a trade.

19. Because we’re sick of being inundated with Brian Burke soundbytes. Yeah, we get it, he makes Darryl Sutter look like Mr. Rogers.

Calgary fans think the Leafs stink because we’re better than them. Logic.

by lucc on Dec 16, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no logic in jealousy.

Shoebacca - the PK Wookie

by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

To think I cheered for them in the SCF.

The best proof that Toronto is the centre of the (Canadian) universe is the constant need of residents of other cities to try (pathetically) to tear it down. Sports aside, I have fond feelings for virtually every major Canadian city.

"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power

by The '67 Sound on Dec 16, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Halifax is gorgeous, I despise Montreal because it’s a deathtrap. and no one speaks English and if they do, they make you struggle with elementary French before admitting they do.

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The city of Montreal is lovely, Habs fans, well you know.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i’ve driven through Montreal many times, its dirty and depressing. Quebec seems a lot nicer thoiugh. I always make sure to fill up in Cornwall though..don’t want to have to stop in Quebec!

Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10

by Future_considerations on Dec 16, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Quebec city is incredible, montreal is a sinkhole, although i do like that you can buy a 24 in the gas station for 25 bucks there.

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Montreal > Cornwall. 8 days a week

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

No clue what peoples’ problem with Montreal is. It’s a nice city, and unless you go into a part of the city that’s overwhelmingly francophone, speaking English is never a problem. I’ve never had problems, for example, getting service in English at a restaurant.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

The drivers here really are crazy though. It’s like their car horns are permanently engaged and the brakes don’t work.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I always have a blast in Montreal. The food is good (except the mexican) the booze is cheap and the women are hot.
the only thing bad about montreal is the Habs…well yes and the drivers, which I blame the Habs for

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

well they’re just trying to get away from the Habs fans who want to burn their cars

Negative. I am a meat popsicle.

by birky on Dec 16, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The pedestrians are crazy too.

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, for sure. But crazy pedestrians are much less likely to run me over at an intersection.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Love Montreal, the city.

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Montreal. Ottawa, Vancouver and Calgary too. Haven’t been to Halifax but sounds lovely.

I prefer Toronto obviously but I never feel any reason to knock the other cities.

"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power

by The '67 Sound on Dec 16, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Quebec is a beautiful city, but the people will accomodate your english faster in Montreal.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Halifax isn’t a major Canadian city! It’s just major relative to everything else out East.

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s the only one i’ve been to that I love as much as toronto, major city or not.

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh I know. I’ve heard it’s great. And that it has a lot of bars. Those crazy maritimers.

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

this is CC territory but my girlfriend and I went to the Dome one night during our stay there ( think shitty nightclub) and some girl stripped naked and got on the stripper pole and went at it in the middle of the nightclub. She got thrown out after about 2 minutes and the bouncer was telling everyone she was a hooker but, first time I’ve ever seen that outside of a strip club. my girlfriend was laughing so hard at the whole thing.

conclusion: Halifax is awesome.

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha the dome! Good times, dirty times, but good times

by schennsational on Dec 16, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

The Navy, four universities, government jobs, two or three trade schools, all in a city of 350,000. It’s rockin’

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, I went to the Dome last year when I was at a conference in Halifax. Twice. That place is Jersey Shore North. We watched in awe as two guido-looking guys just started simultaneously grinding on the same girl.

Decent club, crazy clientele.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want to party, there’s no place in Canada that compares to Halifax. Unfortunately, it’s also getting pretty crime infested, specifically violent.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s funny that so many people here out west hate the city of Toronto. I don’t. I’ve never been there, but people I’ve met from there, for the most part, are good people, not arrogant or conceited.

People think I’m biased, because I grew up a Leafs fan, but I really don’t get the Toronto hate. Maybe everyone is jealous.

Leaf fan in Edmonton.

by nolan_21 on Dec 16, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh, I get it

There’s more people in Toronto, so it gets more media coverage and events, and in turn gets attention. It then turns into “Toronto only cares about Toronto”, which makes the residents look like arrogant, self-centred people…

I get it… I just don’t care.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess I understand that. But it doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

Leaf fan in Edmonton.

by nolan_21 on Dec 16, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

When you have one city contributing to a sizable portion of the countrys population (especially a country the size of Canada) people are going to be jealous.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Dec 16, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

The best/worse is – Toronto is so violent. All I ever see on TV is violence in Toronto.

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

By that logic…Calgary doesn’t exist!

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs win by default.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Toronto has one of the lowest crime rates in Canada. There are certain parts of the city that are more dangerous, but as a general rule Toronto is a very safe city.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

yup, but 70 murders a year sounds like a whole lot to someone living in a city of 300 thou

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

the first time I met some family friends from Stratford, they were genuinely surprised I’m not in a gang or haven’t seen anyone murdered

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Gangs and gun violence

are an issue in Toronto, but not for the average person.

For teenagers and people in low income communities it’s a bigger problem… but that isn’t everyone, it isn’t even most people.

As far as witnessing actual violence, I’d say fist fights, stabbings, machete-ings, and the occasional threat have a lot more to do with gang violence in Toronto than a lot of the scary gun play you hear about on the evening news.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Just like every city. I used to live in Saskatoon. Even though it is very small it has a high crime rate, but the areas that I lived in are very safe. Saskatoon has one major area that I would avoid. Toronto (and any other city) I’m sure are the same, obviously on a much larger scale.

Leaf fan in Edmonton.

by nolan_21 on Dec 16, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s pretty much it.

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Look at it this way: they don’t show all the instances of violence NOT happening in Toronto. It’s kind of like plane crashes. Looks like it happens all the time, but it’s not like they report about the thousands of takeoffs and landings where nothing happens.

Professional cusser causer.

by T is for Truculence on Dec 16, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

News today – man walks peacfully to work, without incident.

Sounds like an headline from “the Onion”

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

altenate Headline

Man says drive home on the 401 “Not Bad”

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Lady in Toronto returns from grocery store, happy.

Today in Toronto, a lady left her home at approximately 6 pm to purchase food from a grocery store for the upcoming week. She was happy to report she made it home in good time, with all her groceries, and without being stabbed, shot, mugged or otherwise the victim of crime.

“I’m happy it’s just another day in Toronto, and I’m not dead.”

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

“Man goes to library, does not get killed by a crossbow”

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you read the hilarious quotation by one of the witnesses:

“You don’t think of a crossbow as something for killing people”

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

" i mean, I use my crossbow for hunting, but never for killing things!"

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

When I lived in Thunder Bay, it had the highest Murder rate in Canada for something like 4 of the 5 years i was there

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Correlation?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Those pythons aren’t just for show

Professional cusser causer.

by T is for Truculence on Dec 16, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Causation!

wait…what?

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Empirically observed co-variation is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for causality. Derp.

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by Blinky on Dec 16, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been to TB a few times. It’s a pretty area.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I was there grades 8 through 13
all there was to do there was drink and play hockey

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

It is a little remote too.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

and get laid

Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Dec 16, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

 other thing I remember about my time in Thunder bay a chlamydia outbreak so bad that 90 percent of stores were handing out free condoms

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm… at that point I assume it was back to drinking and hockey for awhile.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Me: why does the grocery store have piles and piles of free cds at the exit?
Girlfriend: actually those are just empty CD cases with condoms in them to raise awareness about STDs
Me:Oh…well we need condoms anyway, grab as many as you can carry

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew a girl who went to Lakehead. The stuff she told me about going there.

Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Dec 16, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

all true, I don’t even know details, but yes. its all true

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

“Too cold to go out, so stay in and have sex”

Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Dec 16, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

I wish I didn’t have a stupid sidepart in high school.

by NWOntario on Dec 16, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You obviously slacked off one year.

I am disappointed in you.

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."

Winston Churchill

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 16, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true. Per capita, there’s a lot a places in Canada way more violent than TO. If anyone’s been to a reserve out west you’ll know what I mean, or Surrey, B.S., Halifax is climbing the charts, and so on.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Toronto isn't violent particularly

There’s more people so there’s inevitably more violent crimes in total, but on a per capita basis the cities of Saskatoon and Winnipeg are far more violent than Toronto.

Toronto is actually one of the safest cities in Ontario, let alone Canada.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not even jealousy though really, it just makes the citizens of the place getting the most attention seem “arrogant” or “ignorant of the rest of Canada” without it in fact being the truth.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s gets tired really quick, travelling/living in other parts of Canada but being from Toronto. You know how many times I’ve heard:

“So where you from?”
“Toronto”
“I’m sorry to hear that”

I pretty much sneer now. Won’t even get a pity giggle out of me. I’m content with calling the ROC jealous, without it being the truth. Probably petty of me, but fuck it

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

“yeah, I’m just glad I’m not from this shit hole, why did you move here? wife? job? family? Oh…you were born here……that explains it”

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

oooo that’s good.
“Born here, eh…eeeee…sorry to hear that”

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

stealing and placing it in the insult bank

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a hate of the city, not the Leafs. If you go a Leafs game out west half the audience wears blue. Plus, Toronto represents the hate westerners have for central Canada(they call it east)and their control of Canadian government. If you get them comparing provinces though, Quebec knocks Ont. out of the way fast for top billing.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Try Living in One

Try living in another major Canadian city and telling people you’re from Toronto. Two years ago we hired a new girl who, upon hearing I was from Toronto, began talking to me about “Onterrible.” When I went home that Thanksgiving I used the expression to illustrate your typical Alberta attitude towards Ontario in general and Toronto in particular.

Of course, the girl later revealed other, positive qualities and we’ve been dating for a year-and-a-half. In fact, I took her home for Easter this year…and introduced her as “the Onterrible girl.” The lesson, kids: be careful what you say. You never know whose dining room table you’ll end up visiting.

by NWOntario on Dec 16, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

hah! i went to Edmonton this past summer and my buddy who moved out there about 4 years ago told me that EVERYONE in alberta called ontario “Onterrible”

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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I had no idea ‘til I got here. To be fair, though, it’s nothing compared to how Vancouverites feel about Toronto…

by NWOntario on Dec 16, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i had a friend that moved out to whistler for a year then came back, she still calls it onterrible.

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by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

BC sucks
full stop

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree. Its fucking magical out there.

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

ya

were i to ever move back to Canada, I’d pick BC over just about anywhere else…

When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till

by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

>:(

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by leafer1984 on Dec 16, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

can’t stand BC, too wet, most every one I meet out there is a douche the whole province reeks of effort

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yep, and too many hippies.

also, driving there sucks… up and down, up and down. it felt so weird

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It gets better the farther north you go. Prince George is a big redneck contrast to the PC Granolas in the Lower Mainland…and the Okanagan in the summer is like Mexico.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Man…try interior BC. Okanagan valley. It’s like being in the Wild West. It’s dry and hot. Douches are everywhere. What can you do

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Kamloops was a pretty boring place, lots of interesting scenary and hills n stuff, but literally nothing to do

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

A good friend of mine had his wedding reception in the Blazer’s rink.

Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.

by mf37 on Dec 16, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

end of the road

I really liked Tofino. My kind of town.

by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Gah. I hated Tofino. We had a high of 13C in June and it rained every day but one.

Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.

by mf37 on Dec 16, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Windy too.

But there’s like no cops in town, everyone is under 30, everyone smokes weed, and every girl owns a surfboard. It’s like heaven.

by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

shrooms in tofino = heaven

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That might be heaven if you’re not travelling with your wife and a 4 & 6 year old.

Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.

by mf37 on Dec 16, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

yea, maybe its not as much fun then haha.

i spend 2 nights sleeping on the beach in tofino, t’was amazing.

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually I was with my wife and my 3 year old daugther. They loved it too. There’s a great beach not far away, and right in the centre of town is a really good playground for the little one. Even has a zip-line!

by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad you had a good time. Just goes to show how bad weather can colour a place.

We were stuck inside because of rain or freezing our asses off during our visit.

Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.

by mf37 on Dec 16, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve got family in Kaslo, BC. Hear it’s a pretty nice spot.

Negative. I am a meat popsicle.

by birky on Dec 16, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Close to the hot springs. Never been to Kaslo per se, but that whole area kinda knocked my socks off

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

:(
THANKS

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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Ontario transplants don’t count, unless they become converts
converts are the worst of all

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

if you like outdoors activities and being wet all the time, BC is for you. not really my scene though. and what’s with the bars closing at midnight or whatever in vancouver? lame.

There will be an answer. Let it be.

by daoust on Dec 16, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

northern ontario is awesome for outdoor activites

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

lots of places are great for a whole host of reasons…

/Switzerland’d

When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till

by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Except Edmonton.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

:(

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s pretty country but if you’re driving across Canada N.Ont. never ends!

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I took a greyhound from Kitchener to Edmonton with my mom when I was in grade ten.

Two and a half days…and most of that was northern ontario. It just wouldn’t end :’( So many rocks and trees…

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

…and the stops are pretty few and far between.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i drove from mississauga to edmonton in 2 and a half days back in July, Ontario alone took about 23-24 hours

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Ontario is enormous.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

sure is, i managed to cross manitoba and almost all of saskatchewan in one shot once i got out of ontario

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds about right, Toronto to Thunder Bay is approx 16 hrs, then another 8 to get to Winnipeg.

by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 16, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a miracle you’re alive.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m definitely a sucker for greenery. N. Ontario is awesome, too

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I really love cities, Montreal is likely the only other place in Canada I could consider living in.

Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.

by mf37 on Dec 16, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I’ve never been to Calgary actually, but I’ve had friends who ended up living there for a few years after school. The general consensus was that it was a good place to live, if you weren’t a visible minority or gay.

There will be an answer. Let it be.

by daoust on Dec 16, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve spent a fair amount of time in Calgary. We have family there and it was a former client’s second largest market, so I had to spend a week there every June for about 5 years.

It’s essentially new money + sprawl, like a gigantic Oakville.

Not really my cup of tea.

Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.

by mf37 on Dec 16, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

out of all the “western” cities ive been to, I liked Regina the most.
I have no idea why

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither do I.

Leaf fan in Edmonton.

by nolan_21 on Dec 16, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes, a gigantic Oakville? That sounds horrible.

There will be an answer. Let it be.

by daoust on Dec 16, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

But with Country Music!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t forget the cowboy hats and gigantic belt buckles.

I much prefer Edmonton’s grittier blue collar + arts vibe.

Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.

by mf37 on Dec 16, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i know, /shudders

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

OAKVILLE IN DA HOUSE

Negative. I am a meat popsicle.

by birky on Dec 16, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

/props

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

But it’s not really BC that’s wet all the time. Vancouver and the coast, yes.

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, the Okanagan is technically a semi-arid desert.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst is the bars pretending to be restaurants for liquor license reasons and then telling you that you and your friends are ‘too drunk’ to sit in the front and they could ‘lose their license’ for ‘obviously overserving’ you.

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

you’ve not been “overserved” until you’ve been cut off in Vegas.

of that I can personally attest

When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till

by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Used to be like that in BC. A lot of places won’t sell you alcohol unless you buy food and the food has to be a certain percentage of the tab. Don’t know if that’s still how they roll out there…

Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.

by mf37 on Dec 16, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

We had to keep dirty dishes on our table for the entire night. We didn’t know so we thought our hot waitress was just useless so we cleared the table. Cue pandemonium.

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

really..? i was partying downtown vancouver until like… at LEAST 2am… i think it was actually closer to 3 before we left the bar.

The downtown in vancouver when i was there didnt even come alive until after 11, we were looking for places to go for drinks at like 9 and it was a ghost town. By midnight the streets were packed.

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Bars closing?
The bar at the end of my street is open till 2.

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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Karina, the only evidence here is the anecdotal type that supports negative feelings against Vancouver.

When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till

by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This was 8 years ago, maybe there were different rules in place at the time?

There will be an answer. Let it be.

by daoust on Dec 16, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you.

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I

dated a girl from Vancouver for 2 years, and she hated things like the “crowds” and the “weather”…

In retrospect I despise the stereotypical western viewpoint that they are somehow typically more rugged and thus more Canadian.

Vancouver is just plain annoying to me. Beautiful scenery full of a bunch of stuck up nimby jerks that have too much time and money on their hands. Oh and it’s always weird to see/speak to a racist hippy.

Toronto has it’s share of the same I just don’t think we spend as much time fixating on other parts of the country in a negative way.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

There are other parts of the country?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

whats a battle?

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Vancouver is somewhere I potentially want to live and work someday, so I can put up with the bad for the good.

I lived in Victoria for 5 years/still call it home when I’m not at school. Honestly, one of the most beautiful places in BC, but also not much there for you if you’re not a hippie, a student, or old.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

Amazing.

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Tonight...

is an awkward night in our relationship, largely because the Flames are 2-0 vs. the Leafs since we started dating. After we lost here last year I was forced to wear a Flames jersey to a future game and cheer; then, for absolutely no reason, when I took her to the ACC for the first time she put a Leaf shirt on without any coercion whatsoever and…well, didn’t cheer because we got fucking shut out.

by NWOntario on Dec 16, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s funny. I’ve never heard “Onterrible” here downeast. Nobody on the east coast dislikes Ont., (Everyone went to TO for jobs in the ’60’s & again, there’s that Quebec thing)but if someone from TO, Ottawa, etc.does something standoffish, or appears snobbish, it’s known as UCA. Upper Canadian Attitude.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh. When I lived in Edmonton, I was an “easterner” and when I lived in Halifax I was an “Upper Canadian”

Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.

by mf37 on Dec 16, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

this

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins

by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets murder the Flames tonight, as well as burn their goddamned arena down.

by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 16, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Bob Cole is awesome

and anybody who doesn’t think so is probably under 20 and has no idea what hockey is supposed to sound like. Bob Cole is the best of his generation.

And I have no idea why that would be a reason for the Leafs stinking.

by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Typical ’Western Leafs hater" logic, I guess.

by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He is, but did you ever get to listen to Foster Hewitt? Iconic.

by Robert James on Dec 16, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. I hear both of them when the morning show guy on Fan960 does their impression mockingly. Fuck I hate the Flames.

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HYPERDEATH!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Dec 16, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m under 20 and I think Bob Cole is awesome

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. I miss this guy so much. I still remember his calling of the ’98 Olympics.

This is it. He’s gotta make this one. He’s gotta score… No.

It was a perfect set-up, a perfect soft-spoken anti-climax. Perfect pause. The guy is play-by-play gold, and with Harry Neale they were the gold standard of hockey commentary. I listened to the Edmonton guys last game, and I’ve heard the commentary from lots of different cities in the league… Edmonton was just straight up boring, and most commentary is pure crap. We’ve been really blessed with good commentators in TO. I like Joe Bowen too, but could do without Millen.
/rant

Shoebacca - the PK Wookie

by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I can still hear his voice in my head.
I watched that game alone in my room at like 4 in the morning, I woke the house up when Linden scored the tying goal.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

so close…
/sigh

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The Flames on Sportsnet have the worst broadcasters ever. Peter Lombardias or whoever has such an annoying voice, even worse than Edmonton’s announcers.

by theninjagreg on Dec 16, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

that is saying a lot. i wanted to fall asleep from the Oilers announcing team. they managed to turn that exciting first period into a snooze-fest. i actually found myself looking away often, getting distracted,etc. for shame!

Shoebacca - the PK Wookie

by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh no they didn't
13. Because of three words: Bob ‘Freaking’ Cole! Watching the game with Punjabi commentators made more sense and kept you better informed … even if you couldn’t understand Punjabi.
15. Because they now get HNIC’s top broadcast team for play-by-play, Jim Hughson and Craig Simpson — who used to be the West tandem.

They can have Jim Hughson back, and take Healy with them.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

seriously, take them please.

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck calgary. And continue enjoying that awesome Matt stajan hockey, err when he’s not a healthy scratch

Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10

by Future_considerations on Dec 16, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

yes that too!

Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10

by Future_considerations on Dec 16, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Extremely likely to happen at some point tonight. Stajan’s first game back, he’ll be rusty on top of his usual level of suck. Add Schenn and Dion (and even Beauchemin can drop bombs too)… and things might get ugly.

by lucc on Dec 16, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Stajan is REALLY good at getting his clock cleaned between the blue lines too.
That’s Dion territory

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Mix in a little bit of Army hammering JBo on the forecheck (ok maybe more than a little) and you’ve got a recipe for destruction.

by lucc on Dec 16, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

too bad Brown is out, I want to see him make a mess on the forcheck

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

13. Because of three words: Bob ‘Freaking’ Cole! Watching the game with Punjabi commentators made more sense and kept you better informed … even if you couldn’t understand Punjabi.

I know he’s only 77 years young, but Cole needs to retire.

Fire. Wilson. Now. Anger is more useful than despair.

by Peter de Chatham on Dec 16, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m a die-hard lifelong Bob Cole fan and I have to agree. Still love to hear him but its just not quite the same.

by Grabovski's better than you think on Dec 16, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He gets stuff wrong all time time. Like confusing Macarthur with Macintire in the Oilers game.

Yeah, he has a great voice for it, but he’s just not as quick to identify players, or plays, for that matter anymore. to put it kindly.

Fire. Wilson. Now. Anger is more useful than despair.

by Peter de Chatham on Dec 16, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s suffered from not having the Leafs’ all of the time. He used to at least know all of their names and that’s really all I care about anymore. His voice is the best and his framing is still top-notch.

He should be a colour guy now.

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

he needs Harry Neal to keep him grounded

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec’d

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The game needs to be interesting. Bob Cole is at his best in high-paced games that are intense and meaningful.

Toronto vs. Florida mid-week puts Bob Cole to sleep just like everybody else.

by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He always did that. It’s not an age thing.

Leaf, the universe and everything.
Now in year 44 of the 42-year saga.

by 1967ers on Dec 16, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey cool you enjoy Hughson who verbally deep throats everyone who plays against the Leafs and his Greeeeat saaaaaaaaaaaaave crap.
Bob Cole is a legend

Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Dec 16, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that really important though? I mean radio, yes, but if you’re watching the game and you’re even a half-interested fan, you can use your seeing-balls and know what player has the puck or who is in a fight or what happened. Cole is entertaining and has a great voice. That’s good enough for me.

by The Muppet on Dec 16, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

35. Because you traded us Nikolai Borschevsky, who was more at home with the Moscow Ballet.

The author needs to die for this one alone.

by general borschevsky on Dec 16, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Borschevsky was good as a Leaf. Keyword: as a Leaf.

Caveat emptor, Calgary.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Here he is complaining again about a trade that THEY WILLINGLY MADE.

by theninjagreg on Dec 16, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s funny because Maple Leafs is one of the most proper categories of them all…a proper noun.

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Tells us all we need to know...
2. Because of Heist No. 1 — Flames fans justifiably felt violated after Doug Gilmour, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville, Jamie Macoun and Rick Wamsley were sent packing by Doug Risebrough for Gary Leeman, Craig Berube, Alexander Godynyuk, Jeff Reese, and Michel Petit. Thanks Doug.

3. Because of Heist No. 2 — Deja boo for Flames fans as Brian Burke bamboozles Darryl Sutter into giving up one of his top three assets for a handful of extras. Dion Phaneuf, Fredrik Sjostrom, Keith Aulie for Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Ian White and Jamal Meyers. Geez, nice one, Darryl.

4. Because the Flames have never fleeced them in a trade.

I hope the Calgary Sun can make some of those sour grapes into a decent-tasting whine.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m really tired of Canadian’s inferiority complex towards Toronto. I never heard anyone in Toronto walking around going ‘Canada sucks’ or ‘small town idiots’ etc. No one here ever said we’re the centre of the universe. Where the hell did this come from? I go to the CBC forums at work cuz it’s the only website I get. The amount of Toronto and Leafs hate is unreal. Leafs article comments have 500 responses and 400 of them are about how they hate the fact that the CBC reports on the Leafs. The article about the Habs game tonight had 12 comments when I read it and 9 mentioned the Leafs. I think the Leafs should start doing pre-game ceremonies where Andy Frost derides small town Canada and laughs maniacally before the Leafs are introduced. “And now your starting lineup for the centre of the universe. starting in goal for Canada’s team Jonas ‘Thank god I don’t play in Edmonton’ Gustavsson’. On Defense Tomas ‘I like the fact that Toronto has a subway’ Kaberle and at forward Phil ‘Yaaaaaaaay the corner store isn’t in another province’ Kessel.”

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by Chuck Diesel on Dec 16, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually love this idea

When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till

by blurr1974 on Dec 16, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Canada/Canadian = Fans of X band
Toronto/Leafs = Justin Bieber
CBC forums = YouTube

Same concept!

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a really well drawn parallel.

by ShahofToronto on Dec 16, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Great suggestions. I find that on sites like TSN/CBC/Sportsnet, there are fucking hundreds of completely unprovoked hate comments about the Leafs in stories that might not even be about the Leafs at all. There’s no point even worrying about it, we’re so big we don’t even waste time thinking about the haters.

Perfect example: the city of Ottawa launches a campaign to ban Leaf fans from their arena. We would never do that. Let the Sens fans come, we know they’re stupid and funny so we just welcome them with open arms.

by lucc on Dec 16, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That Bob Cole comment makes me irate.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s calling the Habs/Bruins game right now, doing a fine job, rest of the crew, garbage.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

as usual. why the hell did they get rid of the cole/neale combo? still frustrates the hell outta me.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Neale lives in Buffalo and felt he was getting too old to do the commute.

Took a job as the PBP for Sabres games.

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."

Winston Churchill

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 17, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

ook a job as the PBP Colour for Sabres games.

Fixed

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."

Winston Churchill

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 17, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

except for the ‘T’

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."

Winston Churchill

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 17, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

“It is sad and pathetic that Sun Media has to make every sentence it’s own paragraph but that speaks to their target audience. "

That’s funny shit.

I laughed pretty hard.

It be pretty cool if Toronto demo’d Calgary tonight.

Some more scoring from Phanuef and Kessel would be great.

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

I will have a smile on my face for a month if Phaneuf can bury one tonight and we pull off the win

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

game winning goal?

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

In OT. with a dirty fist pump, or a hulk hogan ear cup.

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hulk Hogan ear cup for the win. Would be so awesome

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

someone photoshop this please

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He needs to follow it up with a DX “Suck It” gesture to the crowd, but that’s just me.

by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 16, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

then punches jokinen in the face, sets a gas can on fire, and skates away without looking at the explosion.

then he turns to a camera and goes " the flames are toast."

puts on glasses

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Almost correct.

An excellent idea, but for true style, he should don the glasses between ‘The Flames’ and ‘are toast’.

by Be26 on Dec 16, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Dion

I wonder if part of the issue with Phaneuf was that he pointed out the teams holes and people didn’t want to hear it. Think of him barking at Burke that we needed bigger forwards. He was probably telling that their window was closed and they should ship out guys like Regher, Iginla, and Kipper. He obviously didn’t say that, but I wonder if he was making the same kind of suggestions there.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

I can see that
he probably didnt like the things the leadership was saying either, maybe he saw fault in the way Iggy ran the team? who knows
but of course Iggy is a fantastic leader because…..because why again? I mean he is an awesome player and all, but I can’t for the life of me think of a shining example of his exemplary leadership

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Cup runs make a team do crazy things.
I always think of how ballsy it was of Fletcher to trade Wendel for Sundin.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

And how awesome it was.

If only Wendel were young so we could trade him for another franchise player ;)

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy doesn’t seem to have a filter with his team (with the media yes) so I could see that.

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Why can’t I buy ONLY the games on Leafs TV on-line? Why do I have to buy their whole stupid interactive package?

Fire Ron Wilson!

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

Because they know you’re an anti-Wilson rabblerouser ;)

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Somewhat unrelated but...

I haven’t seen this posted in any of the other threads. Add it to the Waffle collection.

by lucc on Dec 16, 2010 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

But…but…it’s making fun of Phaneuf :(

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Still funny. If we can’t laugh at ourself, what are we? Sens fans. That’s what.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

We all love Dion, this is just amazing that’s all.

by lucc on Dec 16, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I laughed.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats a cheap trick with the stick. The fucker.

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by BlindSight on Dec 16, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on, you’d laugh it was Army.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh, some one fanshotted this earlier in the week.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm in

southern Alberta right now and I plan on being extremely smug after the Leafs beat, break and stomp all over AHLberta’s other team

Can’t wait.

I lost a bet.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 16, 2010 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

I’m listening to the media scrum from earlier today with Dion, he sounds PUMPED to be facing his old team.

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

by thenumber14 on Dec 16, 2010 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

Dion lives for the open-ice hit, and Matt Stajan spent 6 years here never remembering to lift his head up coming across the blueline.

I hope for his sake Stajan is scratched tonight because he might die otherwise.

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by clrkaitken on Dec 16, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not scratched.

Pretty sure Stajan is playing tonight.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure he’ll be in a morgue by tomorrow morning :P

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Dec 16, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

I wrote mine without reading yours.

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

With Matt Stajan in the lineup, I guarantee there will be at least one time that a player crosses the middle and admires the play.

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The Phaneuf mask versteeg is wearing reminds me of Michael Myers from Halloween….

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

That was apparently a Captain Kirk mask dyed white.

by potvin vs hextall on Dec 16, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

One problem I can see happening

Is Phaneuf suffering from Komisarek-itis, where his first game back against his old club he tries to do way too much and ends up creating odd-man rushes by trying to throw the big hit.

Ugh, Dion just done make any boneheaded defensive errors tonight. I realize that’s asking a lot.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t you remember when he first came to TO? He tried to do way too much and was awesome at it. He doesn’t have Komisarekitis, he’s got Phaneuf Syndrome. He’ll wreck the building tonight!

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Calgary, what a joke.

I think the count is now 21 of 22 seasons where they’ve either missed the playoffs or been eliminated in the first round. The only time they won a playoff series was during their fluke cup run, which deluded their fans into thinking the organization actually had a f8cking clue. Which is doesn’t.

Sad.

There will be an answer. Let it be.

by daoust on Dec 16, 2010 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

Yup, they think their window is still open.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Calgary = Ottawa east.

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

err… west

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

If you travel further enough east you’ll get there.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

And even Ottawa could get out of the first fucking round when they weren’t playing us or (as of 2008) Pittsburgh!

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

There is a window open, but it’s just letting rain and bugs in.

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by 1967ers on Dec 16, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

just like Edmonton soon after them. And Ottawa. and, to some extent, Montreal (honestly, if Price weren’t the best goalie in the league this year, where would that team be sitting?).

Fire Ron Wilson!

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

It pains me to say it, but Ottawa had the most legitimate team of that group. The rest…. pure flukery.

There will be an answer. Let it be.

by daoust on Dec 16, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely. The Flames run was insane though, they were like some of those early 2000s Leafs teams.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s true. but their guys were playing their best hockey. Murray made the mistake continuing along with essentially the same group for too long.

Fire Ron Wilson!

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Good points but Tim Thomas would like a word…

by Grabovski's better than you think on Dec 16, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Carey Price is down to .931.

He is now only the 4th best goalie in the league, behind Thomas, Pavelec and Quick.

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Weirdest stat regarding Carey Price

the three teams he has his lowest SV% against this season are:

Edmonton, Columbus, and the NYI.

Teams he has his highest SV% against are:

Vancouver, Boston, San Jose, LA Kings.

He does well against top competition, so it’s sort of hard to imagine him suddenly sucking.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

also

he’s 3-0 against Buffalo this year, and 3-1 against Ottawa… those two teams shitting the bed so far this year really isn’t hurting him.

Against Florida, Toronto, Edmonton, New Jersey, and the Islanders he’s combined to go 3-3-1 with a .909 SV%… he’s looked pretty human against some pretty weak offensive teams.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Montreal fans

be wary of anointing him the saviour just yet.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

The game Price played against the Leafs he played quite well and they likely would have lost without him. Stats in aggregate are often useful, but stats from just a few games might not mean too much.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The game he shut out the Leafs, rather.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Except when they won the cup in 88-89…

by theninjagreg on Dec 16, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone going to the WJC exhibition game at the ACC on tuesday?

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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 16, 2010 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

Yup.

Section 309 baby, going to rock my Rick Nash Team Canada jersey.

I don’t give a shit if it’s a foul or not.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Im thinking of going

new!hockey fan here. Is it too late to buy tickets?

by justjude on Dec 16, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

not if you’re made of money

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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome

Thanks for joining. You can try scalpers at this point.

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

No, my dad bought tickets yesterday and there were still some left.

by munniec on Dec 16, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s only an exhibition game so I doubt it’s sold out. Check ticketmaster.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, i figured since it was an exhibition game

I might have a shot.

Just as a point of comparison, how much on average are tickets to Leafs games?

by justjude on Dec 16, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot more, i’d guess approx 4x as much.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

since I’m a poor student, I guess I’m just gonna have to rely on Santa being extra generous this year.

by justjude on Dec 16, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Here is the link to the game. Upper deck seats are around $30 after taxes and fees.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome! Then maybe I’ll see you at the game!

by justjude on Dec 16, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

holy pictures, batman.

Fire Ron Wilson!

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

love

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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to Matchsticks and Gasoline to see what they have to say about tonights game but no one has posted anything there in 2 days

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

other SBN sites continually disappoint me with their lack of content.

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by Karina on Dec 16, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

That's because

there’s far fewer contributors to the sites. Also – their fans generally don’t know how to turn a computer on… j.k.

The westerners are just too busy burning Rob Ford in effigy, because lord knows our politicians are a bunch of liberal elite pinko bastards (p.s. when did Liberal AND Elite AND Pinko all start to mean the same thing?? You mean you like to do whatever you want, as long as you get paid a LOT of money to do it, but then give it all back to the collective – who all have to sign off on whatever it is you want to do???? Interesting.)

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

They have the 24hr waiting period, cuss.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m a member.

Tell me what you want communicated to the Flames faithful and i shall be your intermediary.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

She’s in exams.

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by PPP on Dec 16, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s only one person?

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

29. Because of the non-stop belief every player from Southern Ontario would kill to play in Toronto, or do it for a fraction of the salary they expect elsewhere. Ain’t true.

Correct it “ain’t” true. Western Canadian boys also have been known to take a discount to play for the leafs such as the mighty Clark MacArthur.

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by BlueBuds on Dec 16, 2010 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

GO LEAFS GO!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

make it green!

"There's been four different Cup winners the last four years, and I got one of them (Anaheim) and it was a fighting team. We're playing it that way regardless." - B. Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs GM

by BlueBuds on Dec 16, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

you should have lit them on fire claiming it was surrealistic art

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 16, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I just looked at the standings and . . .

We are 8 points out of a playoff spot. But we are only 10 points out of the division lead. So if the Leafs go on a magical run to claim the 8th and final playoff spot, it wouldn’t be THAT much more unrealistic to claim 3rd in the conference.

Of course 8th is an obvious long shot and I really would never want to set the bar that high, but it just shows that the northeast could get somewhat competitive.

Leaf fan in Edmonton.

by nolan_21 on Dec 16, 2010 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

The Leafs are in a race of fail for 9th right now. Lets start with the bar there.

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by BlindSight on Dec 16, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh for sure. Baby steps at this point.

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by nolan_21 on Dec 16, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll take 9th as my Christmas present from the Leafs. Throw that in a stocking and wash it down with some egg nog.

by The Muppet on Dec 16, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking closer at it, I think it more likely shows just how hard it’ll be to climb into that 8th spot, and the separation between playoff and nonplayoff teams in the east.

Leaf fan in Edmonton.

by nolan_21 on Dec 16, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Fun quote from Shea Weber in an interview with James Duthie today:

JD: What specifically does Barry Trotz do so well to survive in an era when a coach’s shelf life keeps getting shorter and shorter?

SW: Adjusting to the kind of team we have. Our off-season changes in Nashville have been pretty drastic. We’ve lost some great players over the years. He realizes each year what we need to do to win with that specific group. If its play with speed, that’s what we do. If its play defensively, that’s what we do. He’s willing to make those changes from year-to-year.

He also says in the interview that he’s staying in Nashville and that he’ll have a contract eventually, so naturally the press will continue talking about the possibility that Nashville can’t afford him and he’ll try to pressure them to move him.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

This is revealing. I remember talking earlier about how coach’s need to adapt to their teams, be willing to change their systems. This is what I believe RW’s biggest failing is here in TO.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not gonna lie

Based on my current feelings, if the Leafs win, I could get banned from M&G for being a giant dick.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

Amen.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

If they have a gdt

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Dec 16, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Then dont

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

*They don’t

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

A giant dick is the best kind of dick to be.

by ShahofToronto on Dec 16, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m actually writing a snarky blog post in response to the CGY Sun article. I’ll post a link when it’s done.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I love snarky posts aimed at other teams/fans and their media, looking forward to this.

by ShahofToronto on Dec 16, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Off I Go

Off to the game, ladies and gents. I’m starting out at Bob the Fish; this is also where I watched the men’s gold medal game, so the positive vibes should be positively dripping off the walls.

GO LEAFS GO!!1

by NWOntario on Dec 16, 2010 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

Cheer extra loud when Kadri scores and we’ll listen for you on TV!

by The Muppet on Dec 16, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

And extra extra loud when Dion scores!

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Your signature needs more Grabbo love.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s the initiation process for becoming a certified Grabbo lover?

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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Saying mean things about the Tits Brothers.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

the Tits Brothers

we all sprang from apes, they just didn’t spring far enough

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Now make your own Grabbo quote.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

In Soviet Belarus, pineapple stabs you!

(this has probably been done already)

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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure, but the thought of a knife wielding Pineapple scares me.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

done!

That was easy

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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I forgot to mention my fee.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

fiiiiiine

Here are some freshly baked chocolate chip cookies. Cool?

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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. Welcome aboard.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Thought it was the TV Title Match? Or U.S. Title?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This is also relevant

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

so is this…

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

this is awesome

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 17, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know who else is watchin

the Habs-Bruins game, but why the hell do Mike Milbury and PJ Stock get paid by our national public broadcaster to convince people that “fighting to stand up for yourself” is something that is necessary after making a clean hockey hit?

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

Because it’s the CBC.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It actually bothers me quite a bit

that the public broadcaster in Canada pays an American hockey player who played his entire career in the US, and only managed American teams, to sit there and tell us hockey players need to be tougher.

Not that Don Cherry is any different, but seriously, wtf? It’s just so amazingly idiotic.

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It wouldn’t bother me as much if they chose someone actually knowledgeable about the game. Instead they chose Mike Milbury.

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by LeafBoy on Dec 16, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand the desire to stand up for teammates, but not after every hit. They should start handing out 2 minute roughing minors for those sorts of instances.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

See

what Colton Orr did the other night against Stortini – after he tried to knee Grabovski? THAT is standing up for your team-mates after a dirty play.

The fact that Subban caught Marchand with his head down is Marchand’s fault, it’s not like you’d ask Subban to NOT deliver that hit… he did what he was supposed to and he did it very well.

As for Lapierre’s elbow at Thornton’s face… who gives a crap… they’re both idiots… and neither one plays a particularly important role on the ice.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Was going to use the same example.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

but that’s what a lot of canadians believe as well. so they’re just pandering to the masses.

either that or they just want him there because he makes for “good” tv (by saying overthetop inflammatory things and acting like a general ass).

Fire Ron Wilson!

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually don't think

most canadians would believe that if they weren’t told it on a weekly basis. I think if you had someone go on TV and regularly explain why dropping your gloves to take on the competition after you make a clean hit is a stupid play because you end up in the Penalty Box for no good reason, then people would understand that to be a decent play.

Just because some hockey dads like to blow a gasket and threaten coaches and refs at games doesn’t mean that the entirety of the hockey watching public thinks punching the blood out of all comers at the drop of a hat is the way to win a hockey game.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Grapes does this on a weekly basis.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He also

tries to pretend that by visiting the occasional military base for photo opportunities that he’s doing a lot to “support the troops”… he obviously has a sense of guilt over not serving in the military when it was meaningful.

If he really wants to support the troops, maybe he should lobby government to bring them home so they stop dying and losing limbs to land mines and roadside bombs – he has a nice pulpit which he uses for completely inappropriate reasons. He isn’t a qualified political expert, and I don’t really think his hockey opinions matter much either.

He’s also going senile. He’s an angry, small minded bigot, who is apparently a national icon. That is disturbing in a lot of ways.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s a sideshow for sure, the best part is that he works for a government funded broadcaster which is about as “Pinko” as it gets. He wouldn’t be able to get away with what he does on pretty much any other network.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

he’s one of the richest public servants in Canada… and he calls the people that ride bikes to work and make about 1/100th of his annual salary “pinkos” … and Rob Ford asks him to help him “end the gravy train”…

Ironic doesn’t even begin to describe that situation.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m reminded of Adam Proteau’s tweet from the other day:

Think of the absurdity of being a hockey fan & a conservative: It’s all about the team & self-sacrifice! But only on the ice, Commie Scum!

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Boggles the mind, of course Cherry would see no conflict there.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder

if he got an appearance fee.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmmmmmmm

That would be interesting to know.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

We can agree to disagree. You have a definite, formed political opinion which is converse to Cherry’s. That ignites hatred to the guy. About his hockey opinions not having much value – at the very least he fills the role of showing why fighting and standing up for yourself is appropriate, which is what you’ve just stated you wished the CBC would have on a weekly basis.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

No what ignites

hatred for the guy is his resemblance to my father, but that’s neither here nor there… it doesn’t change the fact that he’s amazingly offensive with alarming regularity.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think fighting and standing up for yourself

is necessarily appropriate in every situation.

I think it’s of value at very specific moments in time… but frankly not all that necessary.

I don’t think what Stock and Milbury were advocating is remotely defensible.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Forgive me. I’ve been out of the country for a while, and don’t get to watch Cherry regularly. I don’t know everything he’s saying now, but the few times I’ve seen him he’s seemed ok. I don’t mind him putting up pictures of men/women who’ve died. It seems like he’s sincere, so I don’t mind it. Anyways, I’m typing with one hand here, and can’t keep up with you. I’ll bow out of this discussion with a simple, cordial ‘I disagree.’

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure it's sincere

and I just think it’s bizarre to “support” and “honour” an organization that’s performing a task that’s so far from the every-day Canadian’s life but so obviously horrible and dangerous, by throwing up a picture on a hockey telecast.

It cheapens the whole damn thing to me. I don’t feel like it’s respectful, I feel like it’s… creepy? Why not list the name and face of every troop over there so they can know they were honoured before they died, so they can feel like the people in Canada gave a crap about what they were doing before they got blown up?

They also never seem to read names or show pictures of troops that are just injured… some of those people are maimed for life, and they’re ignored because they weren’t quite lucky enough to die? It’s surreal to me.

I respect that you disagree, I just don’t think any of it makes any sense and it bothers me. Apologies if I’m offending you with this, I’m not trying to attack you personally in the slightest, I just seriously have a problem with Cherry…

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

No worries, no offense taken. Opinions are just that. Discussing Cherry will take us a long time and the issues you raise would also require a lengthy discussion. Like I said, I’m typing one-handed here (torn forearm muscle in my right hand) and I don’t want to enter into it now. Too much work, and I’m lazy and ‘teaching’ a class now.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

with no comment on whether or not we should be 'peacekeeping' abroad

the older i get, and the more comfortable my life gets, and the more i get to enjoy watching my girls growing up, i find myself having a lot more respect for people who choose a job that is dangerous and takes them away from their families.

i’m the least patriotic guy you’ll meet, but i like it when cherry shows the troops.

There will be an answer. Let it be.

by daoust on Dec 16, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta agree with Daoust. I see no issue with showing the troops. Regardless of where you stand on the war, it’s still important to remember that the people who die overseas are still real people and not just numbers.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Showing the Troops

Someone has to – at least he has a large audience to do this.

Kudos to him for that.

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 17, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

people who think that fighting is OK and people who threaten coaches and refs in minor hockey are not one and the same.

Fire Ron Wilson!

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody said they were

I sincerely doubt that Don Cherry or Brian Burke are the sort to yell at children at a hockey game.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The NHL should start handing out instigator penalties for those “we need to avenge a clean hit” fights. You shouldn’t need to defend yourself from getting punched in the face every time you land a good body check.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Don Cherry. Kill me. Yeah, it’ frustrating, the decisions that our national, tax-funded broadcasting company makes, but what are you going to do. I don’t know when the last time there was enough public outrage to make anything government-related change. Milbury is a shoe. I wouldn’t compare him to grapes because MM has minimal hockey knowledge and no personality. Grapes has points to make, and backs up his claims – the points he makes are debatable, but still. Also, he has personality. It’s not like watching a cardboard cutout.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Unlike Milbury, Cherry does actually make some valuable hockey insights. His xenophobia is still ridiculous.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Man if we had zenon konopka on our team we could totally talk about others teams having Zenophobia.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Had to look up xenophobia, ha ha ha.

I agree completely, but the guy is Canadian and patriotic. It’s kind of refreshing to have that side represented.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t want to live in Don Cherry’s Canada.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Patriotism

and Sports are far too closely linked.

It’s ridiculous that a bunch of overweight baby boomers take pride in a bunch of jamaican/canadian athletes that train at universities in Texas and race in Europe once ever 4 years for about 10 seconds of their lives.

It blows my mind that anyone pretends that they have ANYTHING to do with these people being successful.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Sports are historically linked with patriotism. I lived in the States for a while and live in South Korea now. I find their patriotism during national events inspiring. Sporting events, IMO, are a great way to bring a country together.

Aside from that, you can’t tell me that you don’t love watching Canada in International Hockey tournaments. I love it when we win the gold in the Olympics, and I also like the unity b/w fans of rival NHL teams.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wars

are also a great way to bring countries together… not sure I think that’s necessarily a positive.

Remember Nazi Germany? They seemed pretty unified to the outside world.

American style patriotism and jingoism is ugly in most aspects. It reinforces xenophobic tendencies and it serves as a very convenient method for those in power to manipulate the public.

Sports are closely linked to militaristic inklings, and that’s largely intentional.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I love watching

international sports because I enjoy watching the best athletes in the world do what they do at the highest level.

I like watching the USA basketball team.

I like watching the NZ All Blacks play rugby.

Do I live in or have any personal connection to either country? No.

Watching Canada’s hockey team win doesn’t make me feel some sort of increased level of pride in my government or our national defense policy… the two are completely separate.

Canada as an “idea” sure it’s nice to think about.

Canada in reality has some serious problems and I’d rather they fix some of them before things fall off a cliff… but call me crazy.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

A) Godwin’s law.

B) There’s more than one competitive sport that either developed from or is rooted in war games.

The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.

by Bower Power on Dec 16, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I cheer for Canada at the Olympics because it’s fun, but I don’t feel like their winning/losing is an accurate reflection of anything outside of hockey. It’s like cheering for the Leafs – it’s fun, but I don’t think it says anything about the city of Toronto.

by Draglikepull on Dec 16, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This assumes

that we’d replace Don Cherry or Mike Milbury with a cardboard cutout. Obviously this is an absurd position to take.

Please provide me a reason why we couldn’t find a better, less politically offensive, and less idiotic analyst to do the same job.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

MOAR Elliot Friedman and Jeff Marek!!!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

hell even Glenn Healy bother’s me less than Don Cherry and Mike Milbury.

They’re being paid for their opinions on hockey, not on who the toughest idiots on the ice are, or how awesome the troops are.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

With all due respect…..shit I can’t think of a way to talk about Healy without using terribly obscene language.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say I think he's awesome

I just like him more than Milbury.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t decide which one I hate less.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 16, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow its a freakin ghosttown

over at the flames SBN blog

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by kudzupo on Dec 16, 2010 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, yeah, titles. My bad.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 16, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

15. Because they now get HNIC’s top broadcast team for play-by-play, Jim Hughson and Craig Simpson — who used to be the West tandem

take them back please

by pho king awesome on Dec 16, 2010 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

David Krejci

just beat Cammalleri pretty bad… even if the Habs fans liked watching a smurf get into it with his fists.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Camel fought Krejci? Awesome.

by Theodles on Dec 16, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Cammi was bleeding more, but I’d say he won the bout. He at least got the takedown, and also cut up Krejci. I was pretty impressed.

Fire Ron Wilson!

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

they both got some good shots in, ide call it a toss up cause cammi got the takedown

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by kudzupo on Dec 16, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

lower centre of gravity

helps with that…

I still think Krejci’s shots to the head of Cammi were a bit stronger.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Dec 16, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I give the win to Krejci. More and better punches to the head.

Leaf fan in Edmonton.

by nolan_21 on Dec 16, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

green’d

Hey, if you’re gonna call us birds you might as well call us chickens.
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by Leafer87 on Dec 16, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That guy has a lot of time on his hands…

Let the Wookie win.

by Kenjamin on Dec 16, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

Thank you for this link. So the Leafs need a .600 win% to have a good chance at the playoffs? That seems ‘reasonable’… ?

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

To have around a 50% shot.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Sadly, that is a HUGE positive around here. Plus it’s above 50%, so that’s at least a glass half-full scenario.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I look at it as a “glass somewhat empty” scenario.

Let the Wookie win.

by Kenjamin on Dec 16, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

You have to be careful with the math

There are multiple ways of computing the expectation. The one listed above is “weighted”:

The weighted method takes the opponents record and home field advantage into account when randomly picking scores, so the better team is more likely to win.

If you use the 50/50 method, which gives each chance an equal shot of winning each game regardless of home advantage or prior record, our shot at playoffs skyrockets to 28%.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Dec 16, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting. I’m terrible at this stuff. Regardless of that fact, with our current Home win record and Away win record, we’d be on pace for 18 wins the rest of the season (10 home and 8 away). That’d be around a 40% chance of ‘maybe’ making the playoffs, with a projected ‘no.’ Hopefully we’re through the worst part of the season now and we’ll have an above .500 win%.

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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 16, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

30 wins the rest of the way would give an 80% chance. I’m gonna look at the schedule and see how feasible that isappears.

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