Bruins at Leafs
by Chemmy on Dec 4, 2010 3:21 PM EST
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Tim Thomas vs. Jean-Sebastien Giguere
J-S Giguere enters this game as the proud owner of the 38th best save percentage among qualified goaltenders. Behind him on the list are only Antti Niemi, Mike Smith, Dan Ellis, Nikolai Khabibulin and Rick DiPietro. Tim Thomas' 0.956 is the best in the league.
The Leafs are going to have to get excellent defense and goaltending and then cash in on the power play if they want to have a chance tonight. Hold on tight Leafs fans, I think we're in for a bumpy ride.
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Yeah were boned. Im looking forward to the unnecessary cheers from the crowd like, “TRADE KESSEL” or sarcastically when the Bruins score with Kessel on the ice, “THANK YOU KESSEL”.
We need to win. In the middle of studying for midterms (which start monday) so I can’t even drink much during the game (need to keep studying after), and I don’t think my stressed out-ness can take another soul-crushing defeat. Come on leafs, I need this.
Finals
are in January usually.
But yeah Midterms now is kinda weird… Midterm in Uni/College should end up being around Hallowe’en or early November… not halfway through December.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Canada
I guess if school starts in August in some states that would change things.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
In first year law we have 5 classes that go for the whole year (September-April), so we have midterms now and finals in April.
In undergrad we would always have Finals for fist semester in December and second semester in April.
Yeah
full year courses suck. Just my opinion.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
They do, though most of ours are kind of split into two ‘parts’ that are basically separate.
The only distinction between midterms and finals is the weighting, these are worth 20-30% and finals 70-80 (despite both tests being for half the course). They do it this way so we can use midterms as a guage on how to improve for finals.
Just sucks because they are going to cut into my hockey watching a lot, though the way the Leafs are playing I don’t mind right now.
I've run it through my head in a dozen different ways
and I don’t see any scenario in which we win tonight.
That being said, sometimes when it looks like a absolutely no-win, why-bother-watching scenario is when the Leafs surprise me most with a win.
Is Armstrong back for this game?
20 miles to Legoland!
Somehow I doubt he’s been the reason we’ve been getting our ass handed to us, it’ll be good to get back our roster players regardless.
Kadri between Orr and Rosehill is just… wow I don’t know. No words.
20 miles to Legoland!
I like army but yeah hes not going to turn the whole team around…just need some more depth, especially since brown went down
It's weird to think
Armstrong is the “veteran leadership” on this forward group. But he’s played 4 full NHL seasons.
Sjostrom is in his 7th season, so I guess he’s more of a vet who has played regular minutes.
Beyond that we don’t have many regulars that have been around for long.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
No wonder
we can’t freaking score.
We need a guy with more years of experience to lead this group offensively… even if he isn’t the one scoring.
Brian Rolston anyone?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Why would we do NJ any favours right now?
They couldn’t unload Rolston if they wanted to, he has a full NTC.
20 miles to Legoland!
He's not hurting them
because he isn’t playing… and we’d exchange problems… it’s not about doing them a favour, it’s about helping our younger offensive players develop.
He’d be like having a coach on the ice.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
He’s killing NJ’s cap, which is already in trouble. Trading him would be doing them a huge favour.
20 miles to Legoland!
So what?
they aren’t in our division… I really don’t care if they finish ahead of us or behind us.
I expected them to finish ahead of us at the start of the year.
All I care about is helping our kids develop.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Ok then how about
Jamie Langenbrunner… would that be better?
I don’t give a crap where NJ finishes, I’ve written this season off.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Langenbrunner wouldn’t be fine, but he’s their Captain and has a full NTC as well.
20 miles to Legoland!
Right
I’m looking for solutions.
Obviously what we have up front isn’t working, and there’s no veteran presence to settle down the top 6 at all.
We need one. Virtually every young team has a veteran presence in the top 6 to aid in development. We don’t, and it shows. We’ve been shut out 6 times already.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Oh ya I know, I’m just so against a 5M contract for 2 more years who is nowhere near playing to his contract.
We have cap space now which gives us SOME options, i dont want to waste it all right now on a cap killer.
20 miles to Legoland!
I think
he only has 1 year after this one.
It isn’t 2 more years. And this team is so far from really competing at a high level that I don’t see 1 more year of Rolston as a huge hindrance.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
5M against the cap. Cap space is valuable, especially in the offseason.
Please some one else agree with me that Brian Rolston would be a terrible idea.
20 miles to Legoland!
I think a terrible idea
is letting the kids continue to flounder, and ruining the development of the likes of Kadri and Bozak.
That’s a terrible idea… and I think bringing in someone like Rolston or Stillman would solve some of that issue.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Think about it
Doug Weight, Mark Recchi, Ziggy Palffy, Teemu Selanne, Keith Tkachuk, Mats Sundin, etc. The whole reason teams bring in players like that is to help younger kids develop.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I'm not arguing
I just think Brian Rolston of all examples is a terrible idea.
20 miles to Legoland!
Hmm
Yeah it’s just this year and next on his contract.
And we have almost $4 mill in cap space.
Don’t forget we’d trade someone away to bring him in… might as well be Beauchemin, so the net increase in salary would be something like $2 million.. not a huge jump.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
What about
Cory Stillman in Florida?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Right
but why not dump one of our own problems… i.e. Komisarek?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Andre Brunette
would also be someone I’d aim at… Minnesota wants to make a change, and he’s in the last year of a $2.33 million deal.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Andrew
not Andre.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Interesting
Never thought about Brunette.
I’ve also wondered if Columbus would be interested in anyone on the Leafs to assist their push, they’ve been playing really well and have miles and miles of cap room.
20 miles to Legoland!
Cap Room
but no desire to add salary.
They’re a budget team intentionally. They need to win on the cheap as much as possible.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Of course
A playoff push may change their mind though, at least for an expiring contract (i.e. Kaberle, Sjostrom, MacArthur)
20 miles to Legoland!
They could probably use
the likes of Kaberle… their D really doesn’t have a lot of offense on it.
I wouldn’t mind sacrificing Kaberle for their 1st round pick.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
15 year veteran
he had 20 goals last year. He’s scored 30 goals on 4 occasions, he used to play the point on the PP.
He’s a decent player defensively. He’s only signed for this year and next.
Seriously, who would you suggest that’s of a similar caliber that we might be able to obtain?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Kadri
will play limited ES minutes, and then get time on the PP… he’ll get chances… I just don’t think they want him out there being a defensive liability.
If Armstrong plays reasonably well, there’s a solid chance Kadri might be demoted back to the AHL soon… one can hope.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Yanno
we probably didn’t think we’d be beating Tampa Bay 3-1, or come from behind to top Nashville 5-4… we also likely didn’t expect to lose to Edmonton 5-0.
The whole thing about what we expect is obviously relatively meaningless this season.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
also
NJ & NYI are doing a fine job of staying behind us, thankfully.
Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10
by Future_considerations on Dec 4, 2010 4:10 PM EST reply actions
good point
Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10
by Future_considerations on Dec 4, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
1-0 Marlies
Joey Crabb jams one in, then gets a penalty during his post-goal celebration haha
20 miles to Legoland!
Rogers is broadcasting it, if you don’t get that then I don’t know how to get it. I doubt any free online feeds are showing it.
20 miles to Legoland!
This game is getting real chippy
These teams do not like each other. Lot of scrums after every whistle.
20 miles to Legoland!
Abbotsford
and the Marlies had a lot of chippy games last year also.
I’m pretty sure there’s some history carrying over.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
cant find any free feeds, seems like there is no demand and streamers are apathetic towards it
Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10
by Future_considerations on Dec 4, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yikes
Marlies just got super lucky…. Abbotsford scores but refs screw up the call, no goal.
They really need video replay in the AHL.
20 miles to Legoland!
Reimer's numbers
are solid… I hope he keeps playing well…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
3 Solid AHL goaltenders.
Too bad Scrivens is forced to spend time in the E, but if this year continues this way with GAA and save % averages remaining the same, Giggy has been made redundant.
20 miles to Legoland!
He knew he would be in the E – Rynnas was in the system before he was – but the better these goalies play, the harder I find it to justify resigning Giguere. If they earn a year in the N, Scrivens is bumped up to the AHL (and maybe Rollheiser moves to the ECHL?)
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
This game seems like a sure-loss, a team that can’t score against one the best defensive teams in the league. I’ll still watch. Damn you Leafitis.
Toronto Maple Leafs: Can't even beat Edmonton
On the other side
it might be a slump buster now that Armstrong is returning to the fold and Giguere is starting again.
I think it’s possible the Leafs will surprise us… I’m hoping at least.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
colby still hasn’t played a bad shift all year.
if we win this game, it will be due to colby’s on-ice intangibles and his good locker-room presence.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
If there’s a time to do it, it’s now…
by Andy Kyle Beattie on Dec 4, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
I have a bad feeling about this game. At least we have Colby Armstrong’s nose to lighten the tension now.
I lost a bet.
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Colby's
sense of humour will lighten the mood on the bench at least. Also, he’s probably more likely to goad a Bruin like Lucic into taking a stupid penalty than anyone else on the team. I’d like to see Armstrong, Versteeg and Kadri do a lot of smack talking tonight, just to get the B’s off their game.
I haven’t seen Chara pick anyone up and throw them around like a rag doll in a really long time (since McCabe I think)… maybe tonight is the night? I think he could throw Kadri or Versteeg halfway across the rink… sort of like the NHL’s own version of midget toss.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
midget toss?
I think I meant dwarf tossing… but yeah you get my drift.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I’m not really going to hope that Chara tosses our prized rookie around but if McCabe fell out of the stands onto the ice, go for it Zdeno!
I lost a bet.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 4, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Except for that one time. Don’t tell the elf.
I lost a bet.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 4, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Colby’s sense of humour will lighten the mood on the bench at least.
Epic Joke Night on the Leafs bench, in the style of the last GDT?
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I’ll be at the game tonight, so hopefully it’ll be a good one!
Kulemin, so hot right now, Kulemin.
Boom Posted!
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 4, 2010 5:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Great game by Montreal tonight. Come on leafs. Make us proud. Break some fucking skulls!
This too shall pass
Great game by Montreal tonight. Come on leafs. Make us proud. Break some fucking skulls!
Burke is the type of guy who will take a big shit on the floor right in front of you and then tell you straight faced that it wasn’t him. -Skinnyfish 12/3/10
by Future_considerations on Dec 4, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
YOU CAN DOOOOOOOOOOOO IT!!!1
The Leafs have too many Urkels on the team, thats why our Winslow.
by Hi, my name is Pavol, its nice Demitra. on Dec 4, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
So, Maybe the boys can win a game tonight. I like the new lines, with the exception of the inexplicable Kadri line. hopefully that changes. Go Leafs!!!! Go!!!
This too shall pass
The Marlies are now tied for 1st in the Western Conference with SA in the AHL!
That team has almost nothing on offense, yet wins many of its games with terrific defense and stellar goaltending. Hmm…
They did score 6 last night
It’s not “nothing”, but ya 90% of the reason they are winning is the goaltending.
I think only 1 have their wins have come where they have outshot the opponent.
20 miles to Legoland!
I more meant almost nobody on offense. They don’t really have a legit scoring threat, aside from maybe Ziggy and Hodgman?
Incredible goaltending from both Reimer and Rynnas. At least we finally got goaltending in this system.
plus they're young and cheap
once jiggy’s 22 million a year or whatever comes off the books, there will be loot for some offense. (if there is anybody available.) plus the cap is going up 2 mil
by mick mcgeough on Dec 4, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
The Marlies are 7th in the AHL with 76 goals for. They are 12th in the AHL with 3.04 GF/GM.
I just can’t buy that they’ve got “nothing” on offense.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
I've gotta teach, so I can't watch this game
But whatever happens, keep a still upper lip, everyone. Give’m hell.
Oh, you better believe that's a paddling.
Aw, thanks. Also, nice avatar.
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I have a feeling the ACC will turn into House Of Grabbo tonight!
Contains the correct levels of Truculence....
Let's Play Stupid Trade Tricks
Kessel to LA for Schenn, Simmonds & LA’s 1st. The Kings think they are 1 scoring winger from the big dance & they are right. Don’t underestimate the impact of bringing an American star into that market, even if he does look like a bridge troll.
Beauchemin to The Ducks for Lupul and Duck’s 2nd. Lupul is in the A and scoring. He means over 20 mil tied up in the Duck’s top 4 forwards, too much, they have to move him. They need a D. Beauchemin was lights out for Carlysle. This is really a long term salary dump, which is why they prolly give up the pick.
Kadri, Gunnerson, Bozak and Guffstasson for Spezza and Ottawa’s 1st pick. Big pressure is on Stuttering Murray. Ottawa is losing money and losing with Spezza anyway. Murray needs to get out from under a big contract and start the rebuild, or he is toast. He can’t afford another Heatley fiasco.
We are already screwed this year. Sign Giggy for 1 more until Scrivens, Reimer, or the Bus are ready. I love the Monster, but you play with the chips you have or end up where we are now.
The D will look as thin as ricepaper, so what, the kids in the A deserve a shot, it can’t get any worse, can it? Besides, the best 3 to keep are Phanuef, Schenn and Aulie, they aren’t going anywhere.
Ron Wilson to Murmansk for a peasant woman with a goiter.
A 27 year old who will be 30 or 31 before we are ready to compete? Yeah, let’s ship out a bunch of our brightest young players for that.
If you check
Kessel goes to LA for a power forward his age, a centre who is 3 years younger, and a pick
Beachemin is 30 and goes to the Dicks for a 27 year old power forward, and a pick.
We give up players 24, 25, and 20 for a 27 year old just in his prime dominant scorer. And a pick.
The team that gets the best player, Spezza, who is still young, that team wins the deal.
Look over all the numbers I just gave you. This team gets younger, not even counting the picks.
Why don’t you explain to me how they are getting older?
But this team isn’t really built on Beauch… in this case you’d be switching a role player who’d get old for a headline player who only has 2 or 3 years left before he starts sliding out his prime… at which point he might become a solid role player like beauch, but is no longer likely to be in his game-breaking prime.
Spezza is also prone to making silly decisions however, a few too many drop passes are his trademark….He’s no Joe Thornton but still a good player
Toronto Maple Leafs: Can't even beat Edmonton
I didn't say he was Joe Thornton.
I said he is worth trading for. He is what every contender needs, a true big strong & talented first line centre. And I say these guys don’t grow on trees and they are hardly ever available.
Sundin was no Thornton either, and scored less than Spezza, but he was a Hall of Famer, Best Leaf I ever saw. Too many of us overrate guys like Kessel and Kadri because they pull on the jersey. They are good, but not as good as many fans think. The same fans underrate players like Spezza because he does NOT pull on a Leaf jersey.
Type in the box below – the first one is the title, and for the love of all that is holy, reply to yourself if it’s on topic, rather than starting a new line of drivel. The Senators will not trade Spezza, and as good as he may be, we will not be acquiring him.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
The Original Title Was
’Let’s Play Stupid Trade Tricks." It doesn’t take much in the way of grey matter to figure out that it was as much a tongue in cheek post, as anything. Somehow you missed that.
It’s your turn to drivel again. Turn on your 7th brain cell, think you need it.
It’s your turn to drivel again. Turn on your 7th brain cell, think you need it.
You just won’t stop.
I lost a bet.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 4, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'll say it again
Yikes.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 4, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
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