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Future of the Toronto Maple Leafs Part 4 - Free Agent Frenzy

Hello my fellow long-suffering Leaf fans!  This season is done in all but name.  We aren't making the Playoffs, and are unlikely to even play our way out of a Draft Lottery position.  I have been watching the Leafs since 1989 and this is by far the worst season(results wise) that I have ever seen. 

This team is bad, but I think it is actually better than the results show.  I am not going to make excuses or offer reasons for the lousy play.  This season has been Murphy's Law for the team - anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. 

This is one of a series of four posts in an attempt to gain some consensus in the community on how to build next year's team.

The first of the four posts will be 'Pending Free Agents'  in which we will discuss what to do with our UFA's this year.  The debate will center on their trade value, how much we would re-sign them for, or if we let them walk.

The second will be 'Pending Restricted Free Agents.'  The discussion will be based around if we should trade them, sign them(money and term), the possibility of other teams tendering offer sheets, and what role do we see them having on next year's team(Depth placement, another season in the Marlies ETC.)  Also, this is probably the best place to discuss our prospects and if any of them have a chance to make the Leafs out of training camp.

The third post is titled 'Players Under Contract.'  Here we will speculate on what should be done with our signed players - Trade them, buy them out/waive them or keep them.

In the fourth post 'Free Agent Frenzy' we will touch upon what might still be available and who could potentially be a good fit for our team. 

Please be aware that these posts are interconnected.  Although we are focusing on one thing at a time, be mindful that there is a big picture to consider.  This is a discussion on how we would like to see our team built.  Speculation is welcome - crazy deals and flights of fancy are discouraged.  Let's try to stay within the realms of reasonable possibility.

Credit where credit is due:   Basic information(Height, Weight etc) and other league info - NHL.com & various team sites (glovetap to Steve)  Cap and salary figures - nhlnumbers.com Capgeek.com  Statistics - NHL.com  Marlies stats -torontomarlies.com

Star-divide

So, it has been awhile since Part 3 was posted.  Actually, I could have waited longer to post Part 4 ‘Free Agent Frenzy' as the most relevant time for this analysis would be after the playoffs.  Between now and the draft a lot of pending UFA's will be re-signed by their current clubs, making most of the following speculation rather pointless.  Also, if I waited until at least after the regular season we would be able to make more of a prediction of where our young players will slot in next year and therefore be able to fully understand the team's needs in the off-season.

It would have been better if I had just planned to have the original 3 posts and then done this as a separate post later on this year, but a promise is a promise so the following is the best shot I can take at this point.

I have thought about the best way to approach this post and I have settled on the following:  I am going to project one team in which the player personnel is kept as static as possible and another in which the roster is completely overhauled.

For each situation we can predict what team needs will have to be filled either through call-ups or free agency.  To get this to work I am going to start with a list of players in which Burke is likely to keep no matter what happens.  Obviously most of these players are those acquired by Burke himself but it won't be limited to those players.

After establishing which players Burke is likely to keep we then factor in what happens if we change as little of the roster as is possible.  Then the next step is to project a roster with the most changes and determine what UFA's are available to fill those holes.

Due to the fluidity of the situation I am simply going to provide a link to Capgeek with a list of projected Free agent defencemen and the same for forwards.  I don't need to tell you that we won't be signing Lidstrom as our 6th D-man.  Click on the link and you can check out the career stats of any specific player on that list.

I want to make clear that I don't expect either of these two theoretical situations to happen I just wanted to book end the possible extremes to allow everyone to have a range to work with. 

So, players that are likely not to be moved in any situation this offseason (feel free to disagree with me, back up your point with reasonable arguments.)  Bolded numbers are projected cap hits, Ages are as of this date:

Jean-Sebastien Giguere   32   G      6.0

Jonas Gustavsson            25    G      1.25-2.0

Mike Komisarek                28    D      4.5

Francois Beauchemin       29    D      3.8

Luke Schenn                     20    D      .875/2.975(with bonus)

Dion Phaneuf                    24    D      6.5

Carl Gunnarsson               23    D      .63/.8 (with bonus)

Phil Kessel                        22    R      5.4

Tyler Bozak                       23    C       .875/3.725 (with bonus)

Nikolai Kulemin                 23    L        2.0-3.0

Colton Orr                         28    R        1.0

Viktor Stalberg                  24     L     .785/.850 (with bonus)

Christian Hanson              24     C     1-1.25

Fredrik Sjostrom               26     R      .75

Luca Caputi                      21     L       .585/.850 (with bonus)

There may be some arguments on if Burke will keep all of these guys or on the projected salaries, but I think most of us believe that unless something drastic happens between now and training camp that most of these players will be back with the Leafs next year.  Obviously there may be some speculation that a few players on this list may be playing with the Marlies next year but I tend to lean towards these young guys over most UFA's that might be signed this year.

Total Players:  15     Total Cap Hit:   34.7-44.535(all bonus' hit, max on RFA)

                                    Ballpark Cap hit:   38.0

Scenario #1 - Status Quo

We don't trade anyone off the roster and we re-sign our pending UFA's (excluding Exelby as we will have 7 defencemen on NHL contracts):

Tomas Kaberle                 32     D    4.25

Jeff Finger                        30      D    3.5

Mikhail Grabovski             26      C    2.9

Wayne Primeau                33      C    .8-1.1

Rickard Wallin                  29       C    .5-.7

John Mitchell                    25       C    .5025-.75

Jamie Lundmark              29       C    .5-.75

That's 22 players, so for arguments sake you add in either

Jay Rosehill                     24        L     .525 as the 13th forward or

Nazem Kadri                    19        C     .9/1.75 as a top 6 forward.

Putting the cap hit at between approximately 13.5 - 15 for these players

Grand projected cap hit for 23 players between - 51 - 54 million.

Obviously no one expects this to be our starting lineup, but in this case no UFA's are needed to fill a roster spot.

Next, if the maximum possible # of players get traded/waived/sent down.  This is pretty easy as you just use the list of players Burke is likely to keep.  Of all the players moved you would think Burke would want a roster player back in exchange for Kaberle.  If Burke trades Grabovski I think he would prefer a roster player back but he might take picks/prospects back (how high the pick and/or how good the prospect will determine the numbers coming back.)

I am not necessarily advocating trading Grabovski, but we do have a dilemma at the centre position.  In the next two years will have Bozak, Grabovski and Kadri in the mix for the top two centreman positions... this becomes even more muddied if you consider signing a UFA centre or trading Kaberle for a top pivot.  No matter what happens we will have too many centres fighting to be on the top two lines.  This situation has to give, if that means moving one or more to the wing or trading a player (or both), either way something must be done.

For speculation's sake, say Burke gets a draft pick or two for Grabovski and a top 6 forward for Kaberle with a cap hit of around 4-5 million, the team would still need to find a 5th and 6th defenceman and 3 forwards.  If you want to throw Phil Oreskovic into the mix for the 7th D-man and Jay Rosehill in for the 13th forward, you will still need at least a 6th spot D and room for 2 forwards.  Let's assume that the Cap for next year stays around the 56 million mark.

Without Phil and Jay - 42-43 million used cap:

2 defenceman and 3 forwards for around 13-14 million.

With Phil and Jay - 43-44 million used cap:

1 defenceman and 2 forwards for around 12-13 million.

Note that both above situation is contingent upon Kadri not playing with the Leafs next year - include his numbers and drop a forward roster spot if you feel he will be with the club next year.

Again, these are spitball numbers but probably accurate out to 2-3 million either way.

Courtesy of Capgeek, click here for a list of pending UFA Defencemen.

Click here for a list of pending UFA Forwards.

Note:  I did not include goalies, but if you feel that we need to add one, state so in your analysis.

Checking out the defencemen in the range of sub 1 mil contracts (probably no more than what we want to pay for a #6 guy) there is an interesting mix of guys from the ages of 27-37.  Who do you think would provide the most value as a 6th and/or 7th defenceman on our team?

Obviously, the big ticket item on Burke's shopping list will be a proven top 6 forward.  If he cannot (or does not) acquire one by trading Kaberle than he might try to make a splash with a big signing.  Unfortunately this list is not very impressive and will be less so by the time July 1st comes around.

There are several balances you want to strike here.  You don't want to sign too many guys who will take valuable minutes away from your developing youth and you don't want to sign guys at the tail end of their career to a long term contract.  These factors severely narrows down the viable choices.

Some of the more notable names are Ilya Kovalchuk, Pavol Demitra, Olli Jokinen, Patrick Marleau, Alexander Frolov, Thomas Plekanec, Alex Tanguay, Colby Armstrong, Raffi Torres and Alexei Ponikarovsky.

Many have argued (for and against) signing these guys for various reasons.  Although Kovalchuk and Marleau are clearly at the top of this class, there are knocks against both players.  Also, it is doubtful that either of these players would be willing to go to a rebuilding team.  The rest all have their positives and negatives and none of them really jump out at me as being a good fit for our team.

So, even after all of this conjecture, who will be on the team next year?  To be honest with you, Burke has surprised me more often than not with his trades and signings.  The one thing we can expect is that Burke will try to move this team to his conventional Elite and Plumber configuration.

Here's my Projected team - Player X is the player we get back for Kaberle and UFA's are spots that Burke fills with signings this off-season.

Kulemin     Player X    Kessel

Stålberg     Bozak        Grabovski

Caputi        Hanson     Sjostrom

UFA            Primeau     Orr

13th Rosehill or UFA?

Phaneuf             Komisarek

Beauchemin     Schenn

Gunnarsson     UFA

7th  Oreskovic or UFA?

Giguere/Gustavsson

First a few notes:  The defensive minutes will be spread out pretty well amongst the top 5 guys there.  Gunnarsson slotted in as a 5th is only there because he shoots from the same side as Beauchemin.  Expect Gunnarsson to be on both a PP unit and PK unit.  I am projecting Kulemin to be the top line winger, but he could fall to the second line (bumping Stålberg and Caputi each down a level) as Burke could try and sign a top line left winger and not a bottom line left winger.  I figure the cap hit for this team will be between 51-55 million - dependent on if Burke goes for a UFA winger for the top line.

This is the best I can do with the information I have presently.

What do you think this team will look like come the drop of the puck for the 2010-2011 season?

P.S.  This has been a long process and I want to thank the members of PPP who have contributed to this discussion.  Thanks for both the criticisms and the words of support. 

Also a big thanks to those who give up so much of their free time to make this site as good as it is:  PPP, Chemmy and the Princesses - we are indebted for all the work you do that makes this site a refuge for Leaf fans everywhere. 

Now, just for fun, a Poll

Poll
What changes will Burke make leading up to next season?
Keep Kaberle, get rid of Finger, sign a top UFA
15 votes
Trade Kaberle for a top line player, get rid of Finger, sign UFAs to fill the holes
69 votes
Sign a minimum of UFAs on a short term basis and let the kids play
19 votes
I don't know what he is going to do, but I bet it will be good!
11 votes
I am super negative and no matter what happens we will suck - also I hate my life
9 votes

123 votes | Poll has closed

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Once again, great summary and analysis of our situation.

Couldn’t have said it better myself. I have no idea what Burke is going to do, but it will probably surprise us all. (hopefully a positive surprise)

Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.

by nhlcheapshot on Mar 12, 2010 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

Great work

I fear Kaberle will not return a legit Top 6 player, let alone Top 3. Maybe a prospect or a low #1 pick. I certainly don’t see him returning someone better than Bozak is looking.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Burke pulls off another mega deal, packaging Kaberle and one more more of our forward prospects (DiDo, D. Mitchell, D’Amigo, Stefanovich etc.) for a first liner from a cap strapped team. Not sure who that might be. I still lust after Jordan Staal—they are cap-crunched and have only 2 D-man signed for next year—but no reason to think the Pens would even think of dealing him.

I very much hope we stay away from the UFA market except for perhaps one year, cheap contracts. Let the kids play. I’ve heard a lot of chatter about Torres wanting to come home. I hope he’s willing to take a major pay cut—I think his current salary of $2.25MM is nuts for a guy who is now clearly nothing more than a serviceable 3rd liner.

I’m holding out hope that Mikus can be our 6th D next year playing a very sheltered 10 mpg. He’s been playing with men now for 4 years (admittedly 3 of them for Trencin Dukla), and seems to have done OK with the Marlies. Has anyone seen him in person and able to offer a scouting report?

by The '67 Sound on Mar 12, 2010 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

I think Kabby can bring back a struggling 1st liner with potential, but a legit young scoring forward is a stretch

Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?

by JaredFromLondon on Mar 12, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I approve of these tampered expectations.

Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.

by nhlcheapshot on Mar 12, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i still think he can net a max of a late first, solid young player who hasnt blossomed yet and a near blue chip prospect BUT that all hinges on a bidding war

Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?

by JaredFromLondon on Mar 12, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you may be pleasantly surprised at what Kaberle might bring.

Not Carter and a 1st surprised – people who expect that should find the highest structure near them and throw themselves off to spare them the disappointment.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 12, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

So you think Kaberle will be traded to Vancouver?

by Mirinov's Nose on Mar 12, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Ohhh i see what you did there.

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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 12, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Damnit…I was going to make a Vancouver joke over the spelling X(

by Theodles on Mar 12, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

If Jordan Staal is what Kaberle can get at this point, I consider Kaberle’s stock to be officially shot.

Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell

by bkblades on Mar 12, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Kaberle would never fetch Jordan Staal
mainly because the Pens don’t need him that bad

Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?

by JaredFromLondon on Mar 12, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

If Kaberle can give us Jordan Staal straight up, i’d consider it a success.

His stock IS shot.

Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.

by nhlcheapshot on Mar 12, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Staal is 21 and by the end of this year will have 3 20 goal seasons under his belt. He’s also 6’4", 215, and has to spend a fair amount of time with crap linemates playing behind Crosby and Malkin (admittedly he gets some time with Sid and Geno too).

I think Staal’s upside is Ryan Getzlaf.

There is no way Kaberle would return is Staal. I doubt Schenn would get us Staal.

/ducking

by The '67 Sound on Mar 12, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree, i think J staal is being undervalued here if you think you could get him for kabba striaght up

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Mar 12, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

if the penguins needed a puck mover (which they dont with Letang, Goligoski and probably Gonchar again) they might consider the deal because of their ridiculous center depth
but it is indeed a pipe dream

Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?

by JaredFromLondon on Mar 12, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be thrilled

if we could get J-staal straight up for Kabs… the only way I see this happening is if Pittsburgh decides that paying 4.5 mil to a centre behind two guys who make 8.7 a piece too excessive and a luxury.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 12, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but if they were gonna trade staal, they’d probably target a legit young scoring winger to play with Crosby, it is a more pressing need of theirs

Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?

by JaredFromLondon on Mar 12, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but even with Letang et al I don’t see anyone stepping up to replace Gonchar as an elite puck moving D.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 12, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

the thing they will miss most about Gonchar is his shot, Kabby doesnt provide that

Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?

by JaredFromLondon on Mar 12, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Pass?

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 12, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

I guess no one noticed the joke in Part One.

It’s in Kaberle’s stat breakdown.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 12, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry

my bad, in Part 2

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 12, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

fail again

part 3….

It has been a long long day.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 12, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha! Nicely done. I missed that.

I think it’s been mentioned before but earlier in the season when his dad was at the ACC to see him play Kaberle was shooting from all over the ice. It was strange to see.

by Mirinov's Nose on Mar 12, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s why I think we’d need to throw in a Top 6 forward prospect. As some may recall Poni + Kabs for Staal was my dream deal. More like pipe dream.

by The '67 Sound on Mar 12, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

My personal feeling is that Mikus isn’t ready for the NHL yet.

I’ve been to a couple of Marlies games this season, and there is certainly promise, but he needs a bit of polish.

To add to that, I think Mikus has a higher ceiling than Phil Oreskovic. If we’re promoting someone from the Marlies to be #6/#7 and play a soft 8-10 minutes a night, I’d rather that be Oreskovic and have Mikus play 20 minutes a night with the Marlies.

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Toskala Cap Counter - RIP

by clrkaitken on Mar 12, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, good insight. You’re probably right from a developmental perspective.

by The '67 Sound on Mar 12, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Mikus looked solid in the preseason (better than Gunnar did IMO) but i am all for him seasoning with the marlies

Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?

by JaredFromLondon on Mar 12, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Been waiting for this

Wendel Killer Joseph

by MapleLeafMole on Mar 12, 2010 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

DON’T TRADE GRABBO!!!1

Proud supporter of Leafs/Flames trades since 1991.

by Sergei Puckizin on Mar 12, 2010 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Best.

Sig.

Ever.

Resident Capologist
Toskala Cap Counter - RIP

by clrkaitken on Mar 12, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s great, but so is Aki Schennberg’s.

by The '67 Sound on Mar 12, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you sirs. 67 Sound, you need an avatar my friend!

Proud supporter of Leafs/Flames trades since 1991.

by Sergei Puckizin on Mar 12, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

why thank you sir.

Dmitri Yushkevich was so tough, he once blocked a Chuck Norris kick with his teeth and finished the shift.

Toronto Maple Leafs: Blue Chip Dmen

by AkiSchennberg on Mar 18, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

i miss the berezin sig sergei.. but the new one is very nice

Dmitri Yushkevich was so tough, he once blocked a Chuck Norris kick with his teeth and finished the shift.

Toronto Maple Leafs: Blue Chip Dmen

by AkiSchennberg on Mar 18, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

ahhhh its late and i’ve been drinking.. that wasn’t even your sig that i was referring too before.. i’ll close by saying i love dion gilmour and doug phaneuf

Dmitri Yushkevich was so tough, he once blocked a Chuck Norris kick with his teeth and finished the shift.

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by AkiSchennberg on Mar 18, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm just hungover with joy from last night's win..

But am I the only one who really doesn’t see the need to acquire a 1st line centre (aka Patrick Marleau) this summer? Bozak looks extremely comfortable with Kessel and they seem to have some chemistry going. Plus, Marleau’s stats are uber-inflated from playing on the best line in the league/he’s getting up there in age and would probably demand a heavy contract.

by Hanzi on Mar 12, 2010 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

I think any forward close to Kessels talent level would work, preferably one who can create room with his speed or size.
The Leafs don’t need an allstar to play with Kessel, they just need someone else to focus on and worry about so kessel isnt triple teamed every time he is in the offensive zone

Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?

by JaredFromLondon on Mar 12, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

to early to tell, but he very well could be, another player like that would help too

Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?

by JaredFromLondon on Mar 12, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

would you slap me

if i said handzus.. he’s six five, pretty sure he skates well and we could have him for grabbo.

Dmitri Yushkevich was so tough, he once blocked a Chuck Norris kick with his teeth and finished the shift.

Toronto Maple Leafs: Blue Chip Dmen

by AkiSchennberg on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t sign Marleau for the reasons you point out. I do, however, think we need at least one more elite, > 1 ppg forward. Maybe Kadri can turn into that but if not we’re going to need one. All these forwards with 50-60 point potential are nice but the great teams all have at least two elite scorers.

by The '67 Sound on Mar 12, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

 I think it’s too early to be going after a proven #1 centre. No matter how the rest of the year plays out there are still too many questions about this Leaf team. The Leafs situation in goal still looks shaky and the forwards are young and unproven. It may turn out next year that between Bozak, Grabovski and Kadri the Leafs are set at centre or it may turn out that the forwards as a group struggle, don’t develop the way we hope, or just aren’t ready.
 I wouldn’t be a fan of paying the price in a trade or taking on the term and salary of a UFA when it’s not clear what we need or how close the team is to being competitive.
 If Burke can obtain a young first liner at a reasonable cost or sign an older guy to a one year deal I’m all for it. Otherwise I’m all for patience right now.

by Mirinov's Nose on Mar 12, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

It may be better

to try the ‘pump and dump’ of signing a few veterans who might still have some jam to 1 year contracts – if they take it – as stop gaps next year. If they play well we may be able to flip them for something to a team needing a final piece of the puzzle.

Someone (Chemmy, Skinnyfish?) I don’t know who pointed out that the Islanders have done this with fairly decent success.

We aren’t winning anything next year, but Kaberle needs to be traded and if we can net someone back with long term potential for this team it needs to be done.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 12, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I'm thinking

at least as far as defencemen go. We have one spot open and three prospects able to take it within the next year or so – Aulie, Mikus, Blacker. Any number of crappy UFA’s can play 10 minutes a game.

Oh, and let’s not forget about Jonas Frogren. No, no… let’s forget about him entirely, him and the 4th rounder that was stolen from us from the league. I’m still sour about that.

-- *deep exasperated sigh* -- Ron Wilson, when asked how he felt about returning to Toronto's bench after the Olympics.

by Garnet Sexelby on Mar 12, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t Frogren going back to Sweden?

by Theodles on Mar 12, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Who's Frogren?

-- *deep exasperated sigh* -- Ron Wilson, when asked how he felt about returning to Toronto's bench after the Olympics.

by Garnet Sexelby on Mar 13, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

See how my mind works? It’s like I’ve forgotten about him already.

-- *deep exasperated sigh* -- Ron Wilson, when asked how he felt about returning to Toronto's bench after the Olympics.

by Garnet Sexelby on Mar 13, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

but I’m not sure that any players who could be reasonably considered to still be top line players would be willing to take a 1 year deal, especially on a team that’s probably considered a long-shot to make the playoffs. What I don’t want to see, and don’t expect to, is big money/term given to an older player that might make the team better in the short term but ties up cap and roster space that could be used to better the team in the longer term.
 Maybe a veteran leader who can show the young guys how to prepare and compete and chip in a few goals himself. I’ll have to look at the UFA list again to see if anyone jumps out. Think Shanahan would come out of retirement?

by Mirinov's Nose on Mar 12, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

My two cents worth

I agree with your lineup except, but as others have said, I don’t feel that Kabby will get a top line player, most likely a solid prospect and/or pick. I think we should keep Bozak with Kessel, and look for somebody like a Matt Lombardi(solid, not spetacular) for a second line centre role, that could switch to the third line if need be. For the 4th line wing spot, I would love to see Mike Greer in that role. I’m sure we can find cheap 6th D as well to soak up some minutes.

One final thought. What about bringing back Belak for our 13th forward?

by Sarnia Leaf fan on Mar 12, 2010 7:58 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

for belak

Dmitri Yushkevich was so tough, he once blocked a Chuck Norris kick with his teeth and finished the shift.

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by AkiSchennberg on Mar 18, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

A quote from Ken Holland of the Red Wings: “We don’t develop at the NHL level.”

I’m hoping the Leafs spackle over the roster with middling UFAs on one-year deals to make sure the kids get loads of time in the A.

Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...

by mf37 on Mar 12, 2010 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

I really don’t want to see any of our current prospects (DiDo, Kadri, Mikus etc) playing on this team next year.

Also, I think Caputi and maybe Hanson could benefit from some additional AHL time – although Hanson was tearing it up in the A so that one is on the fence for me.

Stålberg and Bozak have earned their shot on the team, hopefully Viktor can play a little more consistently next year.

I have no problem signing 2-4 vets to a 1 year contract as a stop gap measure – maybe a Tanguay Rob Niedermayer, Malhotra, Satan-(just so he doesn’t score on us) Comrie, Lang. Guys who have some skill or defensive presence but won’t cost us an arm and a leg and may be subject to a ‘pump and dump’ at the deadline. Also (although I am against it) I wouldn’t be surprised if Burke offers Bertuzzi a contract.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 13, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

We don’t develop at the NHL level.

In Toronto, apparently we do.

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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 13, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, where are the red wings ever going to go with a lousy attitude like that?

Go Flyers!!!

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by Wan Ihite on Mar 13, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nicely done. Well thought out and written.

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by JohnnyG on Mar 13, 2010 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Again

Thanks to everyone for their contributions.

I learned a lot researching and writing these posts. I have another concept for a post in the works – probably write it up in the few days between the end of the regular season and the start of the playoffs.

And, as always – GO LEAFS!

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 13, 2010 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

HA!

this discussion is like a week old and i only new realized it.. don’t drink and post ladies and gents

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by AkiSchennberg on Mar 18, 2010 2:22 AM EDT reply actions  

doesn’t matter how old it is still good to read.

Leafs should sign (pipe dream) Holmstrom and have him teach the kids how to play in front of the net for a season before he retires.

by Chuck Diesel on Mar 18, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read Detroit is already in contract extensions with him.

Detroit can’t afford to have more useful UFAs walk, they lost quite a few last summer

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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 18, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will be interesting, they’re really capped out unless Lidstrom takes a big pay cut.

by The '67 Sound on Mar 18, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will be interesting, they’re really capped out unless Lidstrom takes a big pay cut retires.

Fixed

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 18, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, a big retires…. geez long week

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 18, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually it would be a pretty big retire if that happened ;)

Truculence...starting 10/1/09

by LeafBoy on Mar 19, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way i see it, Kabby stays with the team and we sign a centre, hopefully plekanec off UFA ,
also way to forget kadri in your projections

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by Buds'n'Syrup on Mar 21, 2010 1:46 AM EDT reply actions  

did you read it at all?

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 21, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way to actually read the entire post.

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by PPP on Mar 21, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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