Matt Frattin Suspended

Yeah I saw a video of that hit the other day…. Figured it would lead to a suspension of some kind.

by Huey2k2 on Mar 16, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions

Ovechkin gets a 2 game suspension and Frattin only get 1 for a much more dangerous hit? This is so unfair and just another example of the Colin Campbell and his Wheel of Justice getting things wrong.

/Tin foil hat’d

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by SkinnyFish on Mar 16, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions

I already don’t like him.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 16, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions

I like the fact that you don’t like him.

by Huey2k2 on Mar 16, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions

Yes, that’s encouraging.

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by Kenjamin on Mar 16, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

This kid is 10 types of crazy.

I hope he learns to control it, but I fear he may end up just being a dirty player like the (now Atlanta prospect) WJC Captain Canada.

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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 16, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions

If he can be our Steve Downie, I’ll be happy

by theothervatican on Mar 16, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Downie was a pretty good player in the OHL, not sure if this kid could produce at the same clip

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by Matt_Roberts on Mar 16, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions

If he can be our ~~Steve Downie~~Darcy Tucker, I’ll be happy

Fuck Steve Downie.

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by clrkaitken on Mar 16, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

No way dude. We need all sorts of Downie crazy on this team. But ONLY if we have a captain that can keep him on the edge, not over.

by theothervatican on Mar 16, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I want Tucker crazy.

The kind that jumps into the Ottawa bench, puts Sami Kapanen into next week, and scores 20 goals a year.

I don’t want “takes cheap shots at everybody” crazy.

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by clrkaitken on Mar 16, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Downie is gonna score 20 this year. Tucker took cheap shots. They are comparable players in my mind. Leafs need more crazy. Hopefully Frattin can be that, although I am not thrilled about the troubles with the law. We need on-ice crazy, off ice stoicism.

by theothervatican on Mar 16, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll just be happy if he is a good player

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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 16, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions

yes.

and i think crazy only works when you’ve got a really good team around you (a la tucker back in the quinn days).

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by daoust on Mar 16, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmm. This should disappoint me, but yeah… I miss the crazy a LOT.

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by Karina on Mar 16, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!

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by blurr1974 on Mar 16, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

lmfao =)
red’d

by FenixL on Mar 17, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions

Wow

Dude be crazy!

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by stucky on Mar 16, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions

See, when I watch that clip, he doesn’t leave his feet. I don’t know what everyone else saw.

by Bower Power on Mar 16, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions

No, but he did come from the blueline, which is why he got the charging penalty.

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by clrkaitken on Mar 16, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions

He glided from the top of the circle though, he wasn’t accelerating but he was carrying a truckload of momentum. I think the real danger in this play is that there was a goalie, forechecker and a referee between frattin and the annihilated player. He just had no idea he was coming until Frattin popped out from behind the ref, no time to square himself for the hit. Not that Matt let up or anything. It’s unfortunate, I hope he recovers fully.

by Fraz on Mar 16, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I was being sarcastic; he leaves his feet as he delivers the hit, no matter how strategic those screenshots were.

by Bower Power on Mar 16, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I just worry he has personal issues that won’t allow him to fully function as a professional. University is pretty good at insulating people, but once they get out into the world, it can be a different story.

The hit was nowhere near as bad as Ovie (because it was not from behind), or Cormier (because it was actually a body check, not a flying elbow/bounty hunter situation), or Downie (because it was actually a hockey play, not sitting on someone’s knee). I love the enthusiasm. Hopefully he can control it and focus it.

by Leaf in Habland on Mar 16, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions

Ladies and Gentlemen!

The new Ryan Hollweg!

/crickets

by JP Nikota on Mar 16, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions

Pretty sure Hollweg never scored 9 goals in 10 games… from Timbits hockey up…

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 16, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

If he ever grows up, good for him and the Leafs. He probably won’t.

by JP Nikota on Mar 16, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Uhm...

What’s the problem there, with the exception that it was a charging? When do we start handing out suspensions for charging (and one that is not from behind)?

It was a solid hard hit and even though it appears that Frattin came a ways out to deliver the hit, what was the other player doing not seeing him come? I’ll tell you, suckering us all into thinking it was a dirty hit.

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by BlueBuds on Mar 16, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions

In the NCAA they actually attempt to protect the safety of the player’s heads, you see.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 16, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions

What a crazy concept.

Seems the KHL hasn’t figured that out yet either.

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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 16, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions

He knocked the other kid out cold

This is how the NHL SHOULD be handling hits like this. Take off the blue and white goggles for a second and realize just how dangerous that play was. He completely flattened the other guy, charging in with a full head of steam.

Yes, he finished his check and that’s what we all want, but as a human being, taking a 20 foot running start before pasting your shoulder into a guys face (which he did do, as he left his feet…) shouldn’t be your first instinct on a play like that.

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by blurr1974 on Mar 16, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions

A guy’s face…that’s right in front of a wall.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 16, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s true. He didn’t even go for the puck. If he went for the puck and happened to flatten the guy at the same time, that’s all good. But turning on the wheels and leaving your feet…not cool. If he can dial it down a few notches, it’ll be all good.

by theothervatican on Mar 16, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Seemed like Frattin was actually closer to the puck then the defender but deliberately chose not to play the puck and destroy the player instead. Reckless.

by general borschevsky on Mar 16, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s how I feel about it… playing the man 100% and ignoring the puck 100%.

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by Kenjamin on Mar 16, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m not sure he had much of a choice with regards to leaving his feet. The defender leaned back so he was tilted like \ … so when frattin hit him, momentum probably tilted him too and caused quite a bit of the “air”.

by Theodles on Mar 16, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions

exactly. as a human being, stop and think “i am seriously going to destroy this kid if i run into him like this”.

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by daoust on Mar 16, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

He didn’t leave his feet until after the hit, but yeah shoulder to the head and massive interference.

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by Clawson on Mar 16, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I question his decision-making skills

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Mar 16, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Sure, he took a run from the blue line, but the blue lines’ are a lot closer now than back in the day.

by not norm ullman on Mar 16, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions

compare this hit

to Kostopolus’ hit on MVR last season.

Eerily similar circumstances if you ask me.

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by blurr1974 on Mar 16, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions

except for the one being from behind and this one not
still not the cleanest of hits though

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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 16, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Kostopolus’ hit was way worse. That was one of the most vicious things I’d ever seen and the NHL got the suspension completely wrong. Destroyed Van Ryn career.

by general borschevsky on Mar 16, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions

no kidding, the NHL is a joke when it comes to handling dicipline.

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by Matt_Roberts on Mar 16, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions

we have no idea how the kid on the receiving end of this is. he didn’t play again that night, that’s for sure.

not saying the MVR/Kostopolus hit wasn’t bad, it most definitely was, that said, I don’t think “eye for an eye” or some sort of sliding scale to calculate the time suspended to the severity of injury is the appropriate way to legislate these types of dangerous plays, regardless of the league.

I get that Frattin is a Leaf prospect and some folks are enthralled with his ratio of piss and vinegar to skill. Doesn’t change the fact that it was a nasty hit, and if the kid that was KO’d was the Leaf prospect, I guarantee most folks here would be singing a different tune.

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by blurr1974 on Mar 16, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

hahaha

Good point.

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by PPP on Mar 16, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

He wasn’t even going full bore. He did not lower his shoulder. You can only protect a player so far as they protect themselves. It was a harsh outcome but that’s hockey. People get hurt. Do you think new jersey is crying over Tomas kaberle? It’s the game and it happens.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 16, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Kaberle – NHL Allstar and offensive force
Whers – some kid in college

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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 16, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

some kid in college

That’s why it’s different.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 16, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions

The goalie bears some responsiblity as well. He has to stop the puck behind the goal there for the safety of his defenceman, but he let it get past him, and as soon as it did, the danger to the defenceman was obvious.

by general borschevsky on Mar 16, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions

he should also yell “heads up!” or “HOLY FUCK DUDE LOOK OUT!”

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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 16, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions

If it wasn’t for the massive interference on that hit, I’d be fondling myself over it. Aw fuck it, I’m gonna do it anyway. I hope he plays for us one day.

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by Clawson on Mar 16, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions

Doesn’t seem like it deserves a suspension to me…either way, whats with the commissioner not giving an explanation?

by TheDeek on Mar 16, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions

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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 16, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

that is one lanky motherfucker

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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 16, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL…sorry that made me laugh out lot

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by MapleLeafMole on Mar 16, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions

And that is why you don’t skate with your head down =P Well I assume he had his head down….if he saw him and decided to take that hit….that kid’s got heart. =P

Ouch.

by Theodles on Mar 16, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions