Maple Leafs 2 v. Devils 1: Giggy Saves...
by PPP on Mar 18, 2010 10:19 PM EDT
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And John Mitchell dekes you out of your jock. What a move by Phil Kessel, I was already lamenting the miss when I realised he had not shot, and a new move from Nikolai Kulemin! The game wasn't the greatest, decent effort, and a late penalty looked set to derail things until Jean-Sebastien Giguere made one of the saves of the year. Somehow, the Leafs went 3-for-3 in the shootout which I am pretty sure has never happened before. Can we play Yann Danis every shootout?
Anyway, instant reaction folks and one night of complimenting John Mitchell instead of cursing his mother for not leaping tummy first down the stairs.
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A few quick observations:
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The Leafs were a terrible 39% in face-off circle. Face-offs lead to puck possession which leads to shots which lead to goals so they are vitally important. Only Tyler Bozak showed any skill last night and the encouraging thing is that he has done it consistently this year.
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Mikhail Grabovski and Christian Hanson were terrible which is par for the course. They went 1-6 and 2-6 respectively.
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Garnett Exelby played only 8:18 last night with all of it coming at even-strength.
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Nikolai Kulemin led the team with 6 hits while Viktor Stalberg picked up 5. Those hits are coming as a result of some excellent forechecking that has seen both use their speed to harass the opposition.
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The New Jersey Devils ran out Colin White and Mike Mottau for 10 defensive zone face-offs compared to one offensive zone face-offs. I think you can tell who makes up their shutdown pair.
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On the flip side, Andy Greene and Paul Martin were leaned on for the offensive zone face-offs.
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The Leafs' top line looks like it was run out as much as they could be for offensive zone face-offs.
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Former Maple Leaf Martin Skoula was -11
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checking
on the Back to back thing.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Ok well
not so good recently… 0-4-1 in their last 5 games that were the second half of a back to back.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
10-5-1
for the entire season though.
So it’s a recent problem for them.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So they were 0-4 before tonight. Meaning they did better than usual in back to back and we still beat them.
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yes
but recently they’ve been sucking in back to backs… I think they’re getting tired as a team… lots of Olympic players seems to be catching up with them.
they’ll bow out of the playoffs methinks.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I kind of want them to get far enough to whoop Pittsburgh’s ass.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
Since the Olympic break, the Leafs have beaten:
Ottawa (flu, no Alfredsson, in a tail spin)
Boston (no Savard, no Chara)
Tampa Bay (Mike Smith sh*t the bed)
Edmonton (worst team in the league)
Ottawa (still in a horrific tail spin)
New Jersey (back to back, started a back-up)
I’d say it has just as much to do with weakness of schedule as it does with any type of roster transformation.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Well this is very true
and hopefully it continues for the remainder of the season, and Boston can suck on the 6th overall pick or so.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I agree. I hope the Leafs run the table the rest of the way and Boston’s pick drops lower and lower. Just don’t see them hauling in the points once the competition gets tougher.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
One thing that we need to keep in mind is that 7 of our last 11 are at home, where we have been much better than on the road, so its not crazy to think we might make up a few points.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
I’d say it has just as much to do with weakness of schedule as it does with any type of roster transformation.
So one could easily say that our poor performance up until the olympics was due to a tough schedule?
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
that is all jamal mayers and vesa toskalas fault
all of it
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Any schedule gets easier without Vesa.
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
But you always say that we can’t just use ‘everything that could go wrong, did go wrong’ as an excuse for our suckage, but you use a similar (inverted) excuse to explain our ownage. We have won 5 of 6 plain and simple.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
I will take your lack of providing a basis for this argument as agreement.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
He didn't say that it's ALL based on schedule
he said it’s AS MUCH the sched, as it is their solid play.
That isn’t the reverse of blaming everything on injuries/bad luck.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
All those teams are in a playoff hunt except edmonton I don’t think anyone was letting up on us. Maybe we wouldn’t have won a couple of those if the other teams were fully healthy but before the deadline I think we would have lost the games regardless of how depleeted they might have been.
The NJ game last night we lose 100% if it was played in december.
You can mention the ease of schedule but if you watch the games they’re playing like a different team (they are a different team)
by Chuck Diesel on Mar 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but the bottom line is you’ve got to win. A team still has to win when things don’t go their way and they have to win the games they should win. They might have an easy schedule right now but it’s good to see the Leafs take advantage of it for once. Also, I’d like to see the kids get used to winning. Might give them some hunger and confidence.
by Mirinov's Nose on Mar 18, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m really happy the team is winning. I think the Leafs recent point surge has far more to do with who they’re playing than with how they’re playing.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Let's all acknowledge
that it’s a bit of both.
The more worrisome thing is that they’re BARELY beating a lot of soft competition. This is like the 3rd or 4th OT game in the past 7. The best part to me is they’re finally winning those games rather than losing them.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
But we also spent a lot of the year BARELY losing to really tough competition.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
you’re out of your element here Shield.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Which is why you are reverting to attacking the person?
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
Obviously you’re not a golfer
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Actually I am, though I don’t see what that has to do with this.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
What I find funny is
you basically quoted the Big Lebowski above… and that’s twice it’s come up tonight. Where’s theodles when we need to find out what other crappy movies they’re into?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Admission
I have never watched Big Lebowski in full either.
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Ok well
VI Lenin singing I am the Walrus makes an interesting mental image..
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The Big Lebowski may be the only movie I own on DVD.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
I also love
burn after reading
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
that movie was so rediculous
the ice harvest was awesome
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Dune is awesome
and the soundtrack is also great.
toto and brian eno… you can’t lose there.
Anyone else find it ironic that the band that sang about rain in africa wrote music about a desert planet?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
the spice is life
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved ‘The Money Pit’
That’s my responce to that question.
Willing to trade humour for cash, straight up.
by Archimedies on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
blade runner or vanishing point
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Blade Runner
director’s cut
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
of course
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
A letter from Philp K. Dick on the eve of Blade Runner opening.
I can’t remember if this was twittered by Ebert or John Hodgman…
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Wow, that’s some letter.
Of course he was pretty right too.
by Mirinov's Nose on Mar 19, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
it tied the room together
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If you end up with a ferret
in your bath tub later… I am not responsible.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't call
9 games that we lost in OT barely losing for A LOT of the year. It’s a chunk of it sure, but every team ends up with 5 or 6 OT losses… the Leafs inability to pull them out had a lot to do with goaltending, team D, and an inability to score at key moments.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not just OT losses though, its all the ‘moral victories’ we had, where we played a great game but lost due to a mistake or bad goaltending etc. Sometime the puck just bounces one way and lately its been in our favour, whereas for just as many of the games (if not more) it was bouncing the other way.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
Sure the Leafs have had horrible luck, but if the team had more talent, they would overcome that luck.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Good teams
make their own luck.
The fact that the Leafs couldn’t buy one of those goals earlier this year indicates they just weren’t a very good team.
One or two bounces either way? sure… 10 of them… in every OT game? That’s not bad luck… that’s a crappy team.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
So the last 6 games aren’t due to the ‘luck’ of the other teams having injuries, playing backup goalies etc, but to our skill?
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
That'd be part of it yes
especially since all those back to back games, injuries, and illnesses have kept other teams from having their best players on the ice in crunch time.
Let’s face it… Yann Danis isn’t Martin Brodeur… Denis Wideman playing 30 minutes a night is not the same as having Zdeno Chara out there… and the Sens aren’t the same without Mike Fisher or Daniel Alfredsson…
The Leafs haven’t had any huge gaps in their line up recently.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
uuuh psssh
shoestorm?
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Our entire team is a gap in our lineup compared to the teams we’ve been playing, even with their injuries.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
The luck evened out, but the Leafs aren’t suddenly playing better due to a mass infusion of talent.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
more like
a mass evacuation of shit.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
enemas will loosen anyone up
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Your enema quote reminded me of another great movie – The Right Stuff.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
some reason that reminded me of True Grit
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure it’s a bit of both, but I’m saying it’s MORE the schedule than it is the Leafs.
Even with the breaks they’ve had (No Chara, Savard, Alfredsson, Sens Flu, bad goaltending) they have one regulation win in their past 10 games.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Agreed
I think the fact they keep going to OT is a problem… I already stated that though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think, as is often the case, that we’re violently agreeing here.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
I'm a fan of violent agreement
but yeah… pretty much.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
eh, with this forward corps I’m pretty happy with that,
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Grabovski, Kessel, and Kulemin
were all expected to make strides forward this year… it’s taken 3/4’s of it for us to finally see much of that.
As for Bozak, Stalberg, and Caputi… we sort of expected 2/3rds of that trio to produce at some point, and Caputi is the result of one of the many expected trades.
I’m not sure I am as over the moon as I would be if we were in the playoffs at this point.
The current development is roughly what we all projected… and in fact it’s a bit worse than we had hoped before this year began. I certainly don’t remember going into the season with our D, thinking about how we would have the worst PK and D in the league, and give up the most goals against of any team in the NHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
im curious as to see how the leafs PK stacks up against the rest of the NHL since the Phaneuf / toskala trade
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Sjostrom
and Giguere inclusions will make a bigger impact than Phaneuf.
And the Leafs PP has gotten progressively worse, and bringing in Phaneuf was supposed to help that… so that’s still a problem at this point.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, calling it the phaneuf trade was more a reference point in time than anything else.
but the PP has pretty much been Broken since Kessel got healthy
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think the Leafs should pull Kessel from the PP and give him extra shits at evens.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
I think they need to teach him how to shoot a one timer
and work on his slap shot in the off season.
They also need to work on making Kulemin more of a shooter on the PP… he was the trigger man on the top PP for Magnitogorsk in Russia before he came over here, and he did a very good job of it.
they could also use Stalberg in that role more.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
This is all true
As is the fact that all but two of the wins have come after regulation.
But the fact remains that our pre-deadline team (but for that spurt in November) would not have won these games even with these advantages.
And no one was making excuses for our losses when we were missing Kessel, Gunnarsson, Komisarek, Gustavsson, Grabovski, and even Bozak (seems like H1N1 set him back a good month or two).
I also think we did have a tougher early schedule, if only because the remainder looks so juicy. 7 of 11 at home, and 8 of 11 against teams in the bottom half of the league as a whole. Philly, Buffalo and Pittsburgh are the only games left against teams in the top half (or with a positive goal differential, if you prefer).
Finally, tonight WAS a quality win. I’m not saying Denis is better than Brodeur but he does have a better sv% this year and posted a .962 tonight. We didn’t win because of Denis. The back-to-back thing is a lame excuse. We certainly didn’t accept it when we lost to the Isles. And the Devils have been very hot, are as healthy as they’ve been all year, are fighting for a playoff spot, and have added Kovie.
Bottom line—we’ve been lucky the last 9 games but to suggest that most of that is attributable to crappy opposition is overstating it quite a bit.
by The '67 Sound on Mar 18, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
How can luck be attributed?
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
I thought I was conceding (in part) your point that we’ve been lucky schedule-wise. I also think we’ve had some puck luck that we didn’t get earlier in the year. However, I think we’ve clearly been a better team than earlier in the year too.
by The '67 Sound on Mar 18, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The Devils have lost
5 games that were follow ups to back to backs in a row… that’s significant.
As for Danis… it’s more an issue of his shoot out prowess.
Also… the leafs sched is easy… but it’s not just easy because of the teams we’re playing… note the loss to the Isles?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s sample size, not significant. As you pointed out, the Devils have been very good overall. It can’t all be Olympic fatigue.
I don’t take anything out of one game, whether it’s this win or the loss to the Isles—less than 24 hr turnaround and apparently the worst flight many players have ever been on, not that it’s an excuse.
But the trend is undoubtedly positive. We may still wind up in 29th but I think most of us feared we’d be battling Edmonton for 30th.
What’s up with Florida, Atlanta and Carolina all winning too, by the way? Over some decent opposition too. So hard to gain ground.
by The '67 Sound on Mar 18, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The trend is the Leafs have one (1) regulation win in their last 10.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
2 regulation wins in their last 10
Edmonton and Ottawa
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 18, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
D’oh. Thanks.
Still not much of a trend when you consider the shoot-out is random.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
True enough
but considering how bad that coinflip has been all year, a bit of reversion to the mean is nice. Way way too late to do any good, but nice.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 18, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
the shoot out is random? So my amazing hockey player self will, over a proper sample size, lets say 5000 attempts, have the same percentage as Ovechkin? I like that reasoning.
by Chuck Diesel on Mar 19, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say Ovechkin would beat you in a best of 500 contest, whether it’s the shoot-out or attempting to write witty comments.
In terms of overall results, shootouts are indeed random and are not indicative of team quality like regulation wins or goal differential.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
MUCH better
Willing to trade humour for cash, straight up.
by Archimedies on Mar 18, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
Going since the deadline, if you want to treat OT/SO wins as ties (to eliminate luck), the Leafs are 2-2-5. .500 is a massive improvement over their pre-deadline pace.
by The '67 Sound on Mar 19, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions
2-2-5 against bad teams. Wonder how that would pro-rate against tougher squads?
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Carolina was hot before the Olympics
They’re 3-3-2 recently… not as great.
Florida is 1-2-1 in their last 4.
Atlanta had 6 losses in a row before their two wins in the last two games.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Florida is 5-9-3
in their last 17 games… not so great.
Leafs are 8-7-2 over the same span.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
.500 is where I expected the Leafs to be all season. I’m not sure happy is the right adjective here, if I’m being honest. Wow. That really sums up the Leafs this year, doesn’t it?
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Unfortunately
for the Leafs to go .500 on the year, they need stretches where they are well above .500 to compensate for the portions where they are under .500.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, going into the season, .500 was my goal. Forget playoffs, I thought breaking even was an attainable goal. The fact the Leafs had to break off a mini run of sorts now to even get to where they are speaks volumes about this season as a whole.
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Every team has off nights :)
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they also spend the second back to back game wondering where Kovalchuck is hiding
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
HOPE!!!!1
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
HOOOOOOOOOPE
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Any line
with John Mitchell and Rickard Wallin = The Goggles Line… because the goggles… THEY DO NOTHING.
-- *deep exasperated sigh* -- Ron Wilson, when asked how he felt about returning to Toronto's bench after the Olympics.
by Garnet Sexelby on Mar 20, 2010 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Travellers are advised to pull over and not go stick side.
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Primeau has a high chance of remaining consistent, and I think Mitchell has a high chance of becoming really bad. It’s a gut feeling, but that’s why I’d pick Primeau over Manbaby.
I would keep Mitchell because of the huge youth advantage.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
That’s true. He could be the next Boyes or Sullivan, too. He’s a huge question mark with a potentially great upside.
I don’t see him being anything but a 4th liner but he’s got better penalty killing numbers than Primeau, he’s younger, he’s cheaper, and he has the mitigating factor of a fairly significant injury. He could improve, Primeau will only get worse. It’s a no-brainer to me to keep Mitchell over Primeau.
by The '67 Sound on Mar 18, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
His QCOMP
is way lower than Primeau.
His QTEAM is way higher.
He isn’t a better penalty killer than Primeau.
Sjostrom is better… Wallin is better…
Mitchell has the fortune of playing against weaker competition with better team mates.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
Mitchell will get more expensive over time…
Primeau will get cheaper.
The idea that Mitchell has a huge amount of upside is a bit misleading. He has been passed on the top 6 depth chart by at least 5 players who are younger than he is. I don’t see him improving beyond them in the short term, let alone the final product in 4 years.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone has to play cheaply on the fourth line.
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But Mitchell isn’t the only option available. If he’s going to be 4th line material, there are plenty of players around to replace that kind of player. I guess it comes down to if the Leafs brass feel Mitchell has more upside than a glorified checker. If not, or if the Leafs don’t want to wait around, Mitchell seems easily replaceable.
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Who?
I would posit that there are not many players that make that little, will continue to make that little, and have shown any of the potential that Mitchell has.
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If the Leafs estimate Mitchell will only amount to 4th line, then I would assume the Leafs can find comparable players at comparable pay, yes.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
That’s the point. I don’t think that that is Mitchell’s ceiling and I don’t think the Leafs think so either.
Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.
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But Mitchell’s inconsistency shows he may never reach that ceiling. With the amount of NCAA, AHL, and European free agents that are available, I don’t think it’s impossible to find a player that is at Mitchell’s level if the Leafs don’t want to wait. I’m not definitively stating that the Leafs are going to divorce themselves from John Mitchell, but it’s also prudent for the Leafs to investigate. And I think the Leafs already are hashing out who is going to be on the Leafs next season. If Player X comes at a comparable price to Mitchell, whether that be a free agent or a player already in the system, then the Leafs ultimately decide who to keep.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Tim Brent!
Willing to trade humour for cash, straight up.
by Archimedies on Mar 19, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
You're not helping
PPP wants players who actually exist.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Tim Brent clearly exists.
It would be impossible for something that doesn’t exist to remain THIS amazingly elusive to know what it is.
Think about that one.
like the forest monsters from that m night shamalamalamalan movie?
Dmitri Yushkevich was so tough, he once blocked a Chuck Norris kick with his teeth and finished the shift.
by AkiSchennberg on Mar 19, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
“those aren’t ideas, thats a twist! Get him outta here!”
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Mar 19, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
man baby is also like 25 Primeau is 90, id rather pay Mitchell peanuts to play and maybe be awesome or terrible then old man grinder almost double that to not really do much better and never be part of the future
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The idea that
the Leafs options amount to Primeau or Mitchell is a bit strange.
They can sign ANY free agent to play that role that they want. They aren’t locked in to one of those two.
Why not go for a cheap player from Europe, or another NCAA free agent… or hell just a DIFFERENT veteran from around the NHL for cheap.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Jonas 640 tweeter that Phaneuf got hurt.
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
Follow me I'm Boring!
by blindfolded tank driver on Mar 18, 2010 10:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ruh roh.
Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Mar 18, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Just read it… methinks Giggy’s save gave him a massive erection and he needed to go see Elisha to get rid of it. He will be fine.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
jonas640 Phaneuf did not play in OT tonight. Hobbled off late in regulation, seemed to be feeling some discomfort.
6 minutes ago
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
Follow me I'm Boring!
by blindfolded tank driver on Mar 18, 2010 10:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Seemed like he got hit in the leg, which general said in the GDT and some other people have now confirmed.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Could very well be
I wouldn’t know for sure. McGuire needs to sit down from the screen, I can’t see.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
He felt a disturbance in the Force.
It’s as if thousands of Leafs fans suddenly cried out “John FUCKING Mitchell”.
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
at no point in the entire star wars series (including the new 3) is there a discussion of the niknamage of male and female genitalia.. therefore the dude wins, plus its my fuckin rug
Dmitri Yushkevich was so tough, he once blocked a Chuck Norris kick with his teeth and finished the shift.
by AkiSchennberg on Mar 19, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Technically this is the second game that we should be complimenting Mitchell because his goal against Ottawa was friggin sexy.
I missed the entire game until overtime, though I am satisfied with what I saw.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
he kinda got lucky that Suttons hip check was so slow the titanic could have dodged it though
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but the shot was a very Philthy Kessel-esque snipe.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
He was also named co-rookie of the year for the NCAA
by Inside College Hockey.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Mongolian?
wtf does that have to do with anything? are you mongolian? Or would you like him to go by the code name Genghis Khan or something?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
KHANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Mar 18, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
he is breaking down his shitty wall!
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
/southpark joke
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d call you a nerd, but I’ve been playing Age of Empires (the first one) for the past few days and I’m starting to think I’m Egyptian. I even walk like one now!
I was playing Civ4 with a buddy until 4am the other night and I swear my dreams were in Civ4 map form.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
Ever since the announcement of Civ V I’ve been playin IV nonstop.
If my nose was full of nickels I would blow it all on you.
oh snap they’ve announced 5? I’ve been playing 3 for like my whole life I haven’t touched 4 yet.
by Chuck Diesel on Mar 19, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
iPhone app says
103 days.
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
This makes you a god in Korea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx4sOAt2EPM
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
If Mitchell is going to fight for a job like this, and realise that he’s not yet in a position to demand a large pay increase, all power to him as the season plays out.
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
As long as we don’t pay him over a million dollars I’m cool with it.
Phaneuf Phever, an upgrade in skill and alliteration!
You hear that, JFM?
900k and we’re cool!
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
They’re saying West Coast Fattie just scored off his pants.
Although I’m pretty damn sure it was his gut.
Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.
He’s got loads of junk in his junk
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
Follow me I'm Boring!
by blindfolded tank driver on Mar 18, 2010 10:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Phoenix 3 points out of the lead in the Western Conference
Wow.
Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.
Responce to MF37
How has NJD fared in back-to-back games this season?
IT DOESN’T MATTER HOW NEW JERSEY FARES IN BACK-TO-BACK GAMES THIS SEASON
Willing to trade humour for cash, straight up.
by Archimedies on Mar 18, 2010 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I miss those amazing shirts
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
His brand new $3,000 shirt!
Willing to trade humour for cash, straight up.
by Archimedies on Mar 18, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get it.
I haven’t watched wrestling since the Iron Sheik was tag-team partners with Nikolai Volkoff.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
My roommate downloaded all of the Royal Rumbles. It’s been quite an adventure, fifteen matches into it.
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Basically...
The Rock would ask a question, and then interrupt their answer by telling them that their answer didn’t matter.
To wit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffo3_fO_RA8
Willing to trade humour for cash, straight up.
by Archimedies on Mar 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotcha.
I figured what you were saying was the worst that could happen is that he could spill coffee all over this $3,000 Shirt. C’mon.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Yeah
The guy in the $5,000 suit is going to hold the elevator for the guy who doesn’t make that in a month.
COME ON!
Willing to trade humour for cash, straight up.
by Archimedies on Mar 18, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
and they Wyclef got in on the action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmv—UJ3eJM
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, yes
I can’t for the life of me figure out how someone decided this single was neccessary
Willing to trade humour for cash, straight up.
by Archimedies on Mar 18, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Wycleff in general is pretty unnecessary.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
they gave macho man a whole album
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
which was amazing by the way
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Konnan, too
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by Archimedies on Mar 18, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea who this is.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
it looks like a young modern
George the Animal Steele… I’m dating myself here.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilson presser on now
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Leafs lost some focus, especially taking so many penalties.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Dion Phaneuf just got hit with a shot, he looked okay for the power play but he went to medical bay and Wilson hasn’t checked.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Best move of the night was Shoestrom missing a lineshift and Kessel jumping over the boards and scoring his goal.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Leafs usually play the Devils very well. The team was patient, especially with so many young guys was good to see.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Wilson pulled a piledriver on Berger, put up his hands and crossed his arms indicating RIP, then left the presser. 90% of that may not be true.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
as long as it's the part about him indicating RIP
then I’m fine with it.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
MAH GAWD! MAH GAWD!
HE’S FEENESHED!
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim Ross FTW, I’d like to hear him call a Leafs game or two.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Mar 18, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
HELL FAAAAAR AND BRIMSTOOOOONE
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
BAH GAWD KING
KESSEL! KESSEL! KESSEL! KESSEL JUST DEKED THAT GOALTENDER GOOD GAWD ALMIGHTY!
by Kavel Pubina on Mar 18, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
So much better than Hughson and Simpson. They would appreciate the truculence!
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Mar 18, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
summarize...
no Leafs TV here.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of which were admittedly ridiculous.
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Ron Wilson didn’t continue on this line of thought, probably because the Leafs won and he didn’t want to get fined/distract from the victory.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Yeah, good on him for keeping it positive.
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
we haven't had a gif party in a while, so...
Loving the Leafs is like being in love with a drug-addled, gambling addicted prostitute with a heart of gold and a bunch of humanitarian awards from her youth. It’s hard. It hurts. But dammit! I just love them!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Mar 18, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
That shit
Is bananas
Willing to trade humour for cash, straight up.
by Archimedies on Mar 18, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
They mean stuff -- they mean stuff to us,"
Attaboy, Phil.
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
Do you realize… that Anaheim… took Jason Blake. Away.
Away.
by not norm ullman on Mar 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
Flaming Lips
FTW?
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Stalberg could take 45 shots… and miss them all… and we’re still improved.
Jason. Went. Away.
by not norm ullman on Mar 18, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay guys and gals
Time for bed. Sweet dreams and many happy highlight viewings!
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Mar 18, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
Dale Mitchell is a playoff beast
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
in the OHL
I’m looking forward to DiDo, Mitchell, Champagne, Stefanovich, and Paradis playing in the playoffs.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
and the Q... always forget Quebec.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed, I cant wait to see Dido and Mitchell on the Marlies next year, i hope Stephanovich gets his shit together though
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Champagne has the most points of any of them
79 points on the year… 38 goals.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed, its the Q so my hope is tempered, but i like the idea of another late round gem
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He's 11th in the league in scoring
and he’s 6’4" and 220… so that’s a bonus.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
also a 19.8 shooting % since the trade and 17.9 on the year
cant find the numbers but i remember him being pretty handy on the draw too
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by JaredFromLondon on Mar 18, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
54% I think
but he’s pretty solid yes.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Giggy making some great saves
Kulemin being amazing, and you know that Phil Kessel guy? He’s kind of good too.
Truculence...starting 10/1/09
Summary in 6 words:
Getting-Giggy-with-it Status:
SEVERE.
Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.
reply fail.
Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Mar 18, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Since the trade deadline
6-2-1.
Record in OT = 4-1
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Also
24 GF vs. 22 GA
Kessel has 6 goals, Kulemin has 4 goals, Bozak has 3 goals.
Top line thus produces over half our offense.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
No Leafs D
has a goal in the past 5 games.
Gunnarsson has the only Leafs D goal since the trade deadline.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
GAME IN SIX
http://mapleleafs.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=796&id=63261
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
I know it has already been posted in the GDT
But Desert Ninja with another goal tonight. The guy has been money for my fantasy team.
Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.
He's been on fire
since coming over to Phoenix (who, incidentally, set the franchise record for victories with tonight’s win).
by Kavel Pubina on Mar 18, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
21 goals
he’s got 9 points in 7 games and he’s a +9 since he joined the Coyotes.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
21 goals ties him with Ponikarovsky, doesn’t it?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
I think poni got a goal tonight too
Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Mar 18, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
they both
have 21 goals.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Mar 18, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Both
One ahead of Steen
Willing to trade humour for cash, straight up.
by Archimedies on Mar 18, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
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