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by SkinnyFish on Mar 27, 2010 9:30 AM EDT
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Dion Phaneuf hits a lot. Jason Blake gets hit a lot. Mikhail Grabovski plays in a non-checking league. Looking at hitting stats at [Behind the Net]
Former Leaf and Marlie, Tim Stapleton, has been recalled to the big club in Atlanta. I link this because Chemmy and I were on hand for his first NHL game ever on Long Island last season, a 5-4 shootout win for the Leafs [Thrashers.com]
Former Leafs head coach Pat Burns get a stadium named after him at Stanstead College in Quebec [Globe and Mail]
Junior shows that the Leafs have an entry among the four ugliest guys in hockey. Sorry Tim Hunter bud dayumm [Heroes in Rehab]
Cox looks back at the Phaneuf trade, and likes it with his 20/20 hindsight goggles on [The Star]
The results of an interesting poll posed to 50 NHLers. Phaneuf ties for second in the most overrated category :( [TSN]
Colton Orr earns the Colton Orr Fight of the Week honors for beating the crap out of Nick Tarnasky [NHL Fanhouse]
Too little, too late as the Leafs have finally figured out what to do doing OT [Frozen Leafs]
Recounting his first game ever at old MLG [Vintage Leaf Memories]
Kadri rules something fierce [TSN]
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Not only can Cox use his 20/20 hindsight to assess the Phaneuf deal, he can also apparently see into the future, declaring the deal a “long-term” success just 20 games into the Phaneuf era.
That said, it’s totally worth the read just for the great Dave Nonis anecdote.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
I just re-read the Nonis anecdote, and something doesn’t add up for me.
In the months leading up to the dealine, we get told on a daily basis who’s watching whom. For instance, the Star ran a report that 14 different teams had scouts on hand watching the Leafs one night, largely there to watch Poni.
I can’t believe that a story as curious as this didn’t get brought up until now, particularly how out of left field that Phaneuf deal was. Nonis gets caught watching from the stands (in disguise no less); nobody on Calgary’s side mentioned this, and nobody on Toronto’s side picked it up? Nobody put two and two together once the deal actually happened?
Curious.
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Kadri 5pts last night. Might be unstoppable. So hungover. Sending my love from Boston fuck the Rangers.
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by Chemmy on Mar 27, 2010 10:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Doooood
TSN has a piece on Kadri, though i’m sure most people who crawl around here will find it there on their own. I think it belongs in the branches, its nazem after all.
Danny Markov. Crazy before Tucker was crazy.
Good Article
But…
Instead of resting on his laurels, Kadri worked on his game, leading the Rangers in scoring as a 17-year old before being selected in the first round by the Leafs. He was then traded to a London Knights team with Memorial Cup aspirations in the off-season.
Kadri was a Knight when he was drafted by the Leafs.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Mar 27, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
i saw that as well. oh well
Danny Markov. Crazy before Tucker was crazy.
by AkiSchennberg on Mar 27, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
the link
in the branches doesn’t work… no idea why i’m the one pointing these things out, i have literally nothing invested in the story but i thought i should point it out
Danny Markov. Crazy before Tucker was crazy.
by AkiSchennberg on Mar 27, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The TSN survey shouldn’t have you worried about Phaneuf, the sample size means that two players thought he was overrated. It looks like they got 44 different names from 50 players.
Yay parity!
Prefers pugnacity to truculence.
by chillin411 on Mar 27, 2010 12:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Luongo is #1 with 3 votes, Phaneuf is #2, with 2…Who were these 50 NHLers? Jarome Iginla 50 times?
by Bower Power on Mar 27, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
And the Leafs
were not listed in the 5 worst franchises. That’s probably a good thing when your record currently says 2nd worst in the league :)
Looking back at the Phaneuf Trade?
Cox…buddy…it was like 2 months ago. It’s a bit early, doncha thing?
I live and Calgary and for the first 2 years of Phanefuf’s time with the flames all you ever heard in this town was how great he was going to be..pay him what every you have too to keep him a flame…that he is a lock to be the top D man in the nhl… then after last season they counldn’t get his “over paid hide” out of town, his scoreing dropped ever year after his big contract and his play in his own zone never got any better, and he dished out more then his share of late, cheap hits and his ego was well known to be a problem in the locker room… truth be known they don’t miss him at all in cow town..i love the leafs and when i wear my jersey to work flames fans go out of their way to point out how bad we got screwed, i do feel he is a improvement to the buds but trust me he does have holes in his game.. and big ones, he needs to play with people who can cover up for a bad play here and there.. if they can cover that, he’ll be a key part of the rebuild but he is not your number one guy, his he is you’ll have a whole lot more trouble on this team
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Phaneuf 2nd Most Overated?
Um, yeah—by four percent or two of fifty NHLers polled. Three voted for Luongo, making him the most overrated by this measure. And tied with Phaneuf were Vinny LaSunbird, Jay Bouwmeester and, of all people, Sean Avery (er, I thought being overrated means people think you’re good).
On the other hand, Phaneuf has shown us nothing even close to justifying his $6.5-m cap hit. For another four years. And you thought Jason Blake (2 more years @ $4-m) was an anchor?
the only thing Phaneuf hasnt shown is significant offense.
He has been a horse logging close to 30 mins almost every game, hitting, leading, defending and bringing the intangibles this team sorely lacked before he came aboard
the total switch in team play and mentality since he was brought in is not a coincidence.
Mind you he is a might expensive, but his offense should at least partially return in time
Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?
by JaredFromLondon on Mar 27, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
and in that he’s “overrated” now, it’s mostly because he was so incredibly hyped at first, not because he’s a horrible player now.
The team is certainly playing better since the trades. I’m just not sure how much of the credit for that belongs to Phaneuf.
In the 19 games since the trade, Phaneuf has no goals and 6 assists. Not counting shootout goals (Phaneuf hasn’t participated in any shootouts for the Leafs) the team has 46 goals for, 47 against. Phaneuf is -3.
On the plus side, he does deliver hits: not counting tonight’s game, he’s averaging 2.83 hits per game. He also eats minutes. Not quite 30 a game—his average is actually 26:17—but still the top 1 or 2 minutes on the team almost every game. Which doesn’t exactly burnish his offensive numbers.
These are good numbers. He is a good player. But in a cap world, “good” is irrelevant; only “worth his salary” matters.
and his intangibles help make him worth his salary. goals and assists arn’t everything.
Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?
by JaredFromLondon on Mar 28, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
But in a cap world, "good" is irrelevant; only "worth his salary" matters.
That’s a great quote.
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