Penguins vs. Senators
by PPP on Apr 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
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Every year during this blog's history (damn you Maple Leafs) I've had to pen an ode to the second most important aspect of the Stanley Cup playoffs: Hate. I'm a traditionalist. Sports Bigamy is the greatest sin in my eyes. I don't normally get into that 'real' fan debate but this is the exception I make. So for me, a perfect season would end with the Maple Leafs winning the Stanley Cup. Next best would be for the playoffs to be cancelled until the Leafs return. Unfortunately, that's not how life works. This is actually one of the few things that Chemmy and I agree on so we are left picking the lesser of two evils.
First up was the Devils v. Flyers series which presented a conundrum (just kidding, screw the Flyers) but this one has no such problem. Even still, in the interest of fairness (stop laughing), after the jump bloggers from each side of the divide will get their chance to make their case for our support. If you want some kind of analysis you can go here or here or here.
First up, Peter from Silver Seven Sens who gamely steps up to the plate to suggest the unsuggestable:
I'm under no pretense that it's at all likely you guys will cheer for the Senators in our series against the Penguins. But if we look a little farther into it, there are definitely a few good reasons you should do so:
- First and foremost, Sidney Crosby. Does anyone outside of Pittsburgh and Cole Harbour like him? Sure, his gold-medal-winning goal was great, but the goodwill from that will wear out quickly when his whining starts up again in the playoffs.
- We'll get Tyler Kennedy and Evgeni Malkin less TV time. Let's be honest, the less you have to see their faces, the better.
- The farther the Senators go, the lower their draft pick will be next season. It's bad enough you guys traded away your first rounder this year, it would be so much worse if Ottawa picked higher then you guys, wouldn't it?
- As the Senators go farther in the playoffs, the larger the disappointment for Sens fans if/when their team gets knocked out. Isn't it more rewarding mocking us after that?
- Chris Phillips' playoff beard.
- Plus maybe the Sens will play a team you like in the second round, so you can drive up to Ottawa to get a taste of playoff hockey. Let's be honest, you've got to be missing it by this point, right?
- Finally, and most importantly, think about what might happen if the Senators win the Stanely Cup: The man you all hate so much, Daniel Alfredsson, may decide to go out while on top, and retire.
In conclusion, cheer for the Senators. Come to Silver Seven to do so.
Not bad considering he might as well have been the defence attorney at Nurenberg. Up next, Frank D from SBN's Pensburgh who is a stand up fellow:
Reason to hate: They are Ottawa.
Reason to cheer for the Pens: See above
That seems like a pretty open and shut case. But let's hear from his co-counsel The Pensblog:
Why Should Leafs Fans cheer for the Pens?
If you don't know the answer to that question, who are you? We won't even waste your time. If you cheer for the Senators, the terrorists win.
Why should you cheer for the Pens?
Simple, Karma. Make a deal with us. Help will us to another cup, and you will be rewarded at some point in your lives. Mark it down. Pens win the cup, Leafs make the playoffs next year. This is all you need. No one can give you this type of promise. NO ONE.
Follow us to freedom.
So there it is. Each side has made their case. Let's hear your varied and detailed reasons for hating both franchises. The reasons are abundant but in this case: Go Pens!
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hmmm the pensblog posts a winning argument
not that I needed one
fuck the fucking senators, fuck em
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
that is a good argument.
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
truer words have never been spoken.
Actual size.
by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 13, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This is tough.
The Pens and Sens are my two least favorite East teams. I don’t want to see either do well. But, I loathe Matt Cooke for the Savard thing, so I’ll root for the Sens to win in seven and then get embarrassed in a second-round sweep.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Apr 13, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
EVIL!
YOU MUST BE CLEANSED WITH FIRE!
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
flagged.
Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Do we have anything more cleansing than fire? Like, steel wool with some sort of chemical cleanser that you can then ignite?
by not norm ullman on Apr 13, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
this
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s pretty obvious, but some responses to Pete:
1. I don’t hate Crosby. I think he’s the best player in the league, and all the talk of whining/crying always seemed like sour grapes to me.
2. That’s a fair point.
3. I’m pretty sure Ottawa has their first round pick, which means they pick higher than the Leafs. Plus I don’t care who the Sens draft, it’ll probably just be another long-developing defenseman.
4. In all honesty I’d much rather watch the Sens get absolutely handled and watch any hope that the team ever had a shot swiftly die, as opposed to putting up with additional weeks of Senators games on tv and months of lamenting over what a good shot they had at the cup.
5. Fuck Chris Phillips, he won’t have time to grow it decently before he scores a series winner on his own net.
6. Driving to Ottawa to see a game would involve having to stay in Ottawa. Pass.
7. I would like nothing better for Alfredsson than him never winning a cup.
Thanks for trying, though.
by koopa kid on Apr 13, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
1. I don’t hate Crosby. I think he’s the best player in the league, and all the talk of whining/crying always seemed like sour grapes to me.
I’m not exactly the world’s biggest Crosby fan here, but I never understood the whole whining/diving business from folks.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 13, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
people said the same thing about gretzky, itll pass with time.
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope it does.
I have no problem with Crosby. I did really have a problem with him in 2007, but I think he’s really matured a fair bit. Still, I’ll start to hate him again in this series, but it’s not a long-term hate. I respect him a lot more than, say, a Philadelphia fan would.
by Peter Raaymakers on Apr 13, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember it really took off after one game against Derian Hatcher when Crosby was hounding the refs non-stop.
To be fair, HATCHER CROSS-CHECKED HIS TWO FRONT TEETH OUT OF HIS MOUTH AND DIDN"T GET A PENALTY!
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To be fair
You have to knock out at least 3 teeth to get a penalty in the playoffs
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or stomp someone with your skate.
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 13, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember that, it pissed me off a lot.
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, that was ridiculous, it was all based on one clip where crosby is yelling “LOOK AT MY FUCKING TEETH” to the ref
I cant really blame him for being pissed off then
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Crosby may have whined in his first year in the league, but he was 18! He’s definitely toned it down over the years. Now people are biased to think that anytime he speaks to a ref he’s just a whiner. But he’s the captain, their job is to speak to the refs and lobby for penalties and what not.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Apr 13, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d cheer for Crosby any day. Especially against Alfredson. Why is this even a question? And who is the Flyers’ fan who picked Ottawa to win in 4?
by Leaf in Habland on Apr 13, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
I want Orpik to smash Alfredsson’s brains out.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions
I’d give him a standing ovation. Even if it was dirty.
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 13, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I may like it better if it’s dirty…
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
will mat cookes brain return to a non gelatinous state in time for the playoffs?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a BCWW in there somewhere
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 13, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If cheering for the Sens meant saving the earth, I’d build a spacesuit, say my prayers, take my vitamins and hope for the best.
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 15 recs
Awesome.
The Luck of the Irish Leaf: Because when the Irish are short on luck, at least there's tons of booze.
What if cheering for the sens this year guarantees the leafs win the cup next year?
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hmm, hall of famer with a ton of respect around the league….by money is on Gonchar
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Who does he hit from behind then look confused when a lightweight tries to fight him?
Not Liking Nikolai Kulemin Means You Have No Soul
Jordan Staal.
The lightweight will be Dupuis.
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
does he knee on knee Gonchar again or does he move on to the younger option in Letang?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That was disgusting Euro greaseball Alex Ovechkin, who will play Pittsburgh in Round 2.
We’re taking about disgusting Euro greaseball Daniel Alfredsson, who will play Pittsburgh in Round 1. Don’t get ahead of yourself.
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fair point
so Alfredson knee on knee Letang and it get glossed over?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s never been suspended so he isnt a dirty player!
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
darcy tucker would like a word with you
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
This may be one of the only series’ I really watch, as ‘hating the Sens’ is pretty close to ‘loving the Leafs’ in my books.
If a genie popped out of a lamp and told me that he could give the Leafs a cup, but the sens would have to win one first, I’d have to think long and hard, but would probably tell him to fuck himself.
For me, it’s more the only series in the East that has a chance at being interesting.
Boston and Buffalo couldn’t get to 6 goals/game combined if the nets were empty, Jersey/Philly doesn’t interest me at all, and Habs fans won’t get a single “Ole” in before that series is over.
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I can’t wait to watch the Caps demolish the Habs.
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
that will be the best part of the playoffs for sure
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I want Ovie to sing the Ole song on TV. And laugh a lot.
by not norm ullman on Apr 13, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i want to ovie to say " i thought ole was a soccer chant…"
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston and Buffalo couldn’t get to 6 goals/game combined if the nets were empty
Not with Patrice Bergeron out there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2oGeqT8W8I
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Apr 13, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
But, would you rather have one first, or one more recently??
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 13, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
OK
Who are the 4 people who voted for the S*ns? Especially the person who picked them to sweep. Own up
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all the sens fans came over here and tried to take over the poll. all 4 of em
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm one!
I picked Sens in six. I’m not going to deny it. I’m a homer. And an Alfredsson fan.
by Peter Raaymakers on Apr 13, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
ew
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
barfs in mouth a little
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Apr 14, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This is ludicrous. No, this is ludicrous with emu.
I would cheer for an entire team of Sean Avery’s, coached by Sean Avery Sr., owned by Sean Avery’s colon, sponsored by Sean Avery colon cleansing salad dressing, surrounded by fellow fans consisting of Sean Avery’s talking testicle lint before I would root for the SenaVOMHORKtors.
And Orpik must eat Spezza’s (bite-sized) brain.
Pens in 6.
by not norm ullman on Apr 13, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
with an arena filled with avery sloppy seconds
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm cheering for the Pens
because I think the Stanley Cup deserves a Poni ride
and because i hate the senators, but still, we’re all forgetting the chance to see Poni lift the cup. Even if it’s not in a Leafs uni, I’m really excited at the prospect.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Apr 13, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions
excellent point, i will be cheering on poni in a big way
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not as excited about that, but I wouldn’t mind seeing a rubber match between the Wings and Penguins.
Anybody think it’ll happen?
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definatley possible, the red wings could easily make it through the west again imo. they are playing excellent hockey right now
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys
Head over to BoC.
This picture is so many types of awesome
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Wayne? is that you?
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
As the Senators go farther in the playoffs, the larger the disappointment for Sens fans if/when their team gets knocked out. Isn’t it more rewarding mocking us after that?
I would rather see the S*ns thrown out on their collective asses after a first round, four game sweep. Remember when that happened to Montreal? Man, that was fun to watch.
Agreed
I’d much rather see them fall on their faces immediately.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 13, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
it happened to ottawa last time they made it to the dance as well, past 2 years weve seen ottawa then montreal get swept. Id like to see both get swpet this year
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Son of a .......
Bob McKenzie just tweeted that the 29th place team has never won the draft lottery. I think that pretty much seals it up for Boston this year, no?
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yup
we’re guaranteed to be the first team to do it, now.
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
we’re boned.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 13, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
boston laughs now, wait until kessel eliminates them from the playoffs with an OT snipe in the near future
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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 13, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
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There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Apr 14, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Bob “Piano on Gretzky’s back” McKenzie strikes again.
A Nation of Masochists Don't blame me. I voted Blurr/WAC.
Typical Sens fandome
The top to reasons to cheer for the other guys are: 1. the other team has a guy you don’t like. 2. the other team has guys that are ugly… YOUR TOP TWO? that’s like saying my favorite sens jersey is the one that has sundinsucks 67 on the back
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neither do I
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ah blind hatred
you wonderful thing you
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
That came out a bit garbled didn’t it. I was trying to say: you’re top two reasons to entice Leaf’s fans to cheer for the Sens (an admittadly unwinnable task) are not related to things to like about your own team. I was trying to allude to the sens fans caring more about their dislike of their opponent than their love for their team. I should have read before pressing post and deleted that one probably, I wasn’t trying to attack your list.
P.S. Fuck the Sens
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by AkiSchennberg on Apr 13, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Responses to Peter from Silver Seven Sens
1. Sid Crosby might be a whiner, but I can’t hear him over Sens fans (and Sens) whining about everything.
2. The less time I see Chris Neil and Jarkko Ruutu, the better.
3. I’m fine with Ottawa picking where they are. It’s not like they’ll find anyone there anyway.
4. Much more satisfying watching them get swept in Round 1. For some reason this happens almost disturbingly often.
5. He’d better not grow it too big. Pucks might go off it into his own net.
6. The Sens are always playing a team I like, because I just happen to like the team the Sens are playing against. Am I gonna waste my time driving to Ottawa Arnprior for that? I don’t think so?
7. I’d rather see Alfredsson not win the Cup. He can play until he’s 50 if he wants…but I’m quite alright with him never winning :)
Truculence...starting 10/1/09
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Reasons to hate Ottawa with the fire of a thousand suns:
1. Look at their jerseys! Looks like a political cartoonist’s suicide note.
2. Watching the Sens crash and burn brings back Leafs playoffs memories of when we knocked you out of the playoffs… every… single… time…
3. Daniel Alfredson’s puck shooting incident against Niedermayer. Deserves to lose forever for that.
4. If any Canadian team brings home the cup, it’ll be Toronto.
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I hope the Sens win it, but they won’t. I know you guys hate the Sens here, but I hate the Pens just as much.
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by bestbostonsports on Apr 13, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
penguins 4-0
penguins vs senators series will go to the defending champs
but senators might surprise us all, pulling an upset.
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