Coyotes vs Red Wings
by Chemmy on Apr 13, 2010 3:08 PM EDT
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PrintIt should be a given that you're rooting for the underdog Coyotes. You would fee like some sort of monster who steps on baby chickens if you rooted against Travis Hair's favorite team and wished ill will upon Arizona's snake tossers. Just in case you're still not sold here are some words from a blogger beloved in Canada: Two Line Pass.
There's one reason, and just one reason, to really, really hate the Detroit Red Wings: their fans. They think Detroit is "Hockeytown" despite the fact that I could hop on Ticketmaster and buy lower bowl seats to any playoff game I wanted right this second if I had any desire to go to that decaying hellhole. (Ed note: he is technically correct which is the best kind of correct.)
Oh, I know, "the economy sucks," but Buffalo hasn't had a local industry besides Seasonal Affective Disorder since the '70s and they bang out their rink every night. But sure, you're the best fans in the league, got it. Oh and also they think Chris Osgood is one of the best goalies in NHL history. Because they are idiots.
Hard not to agree with TLP on this one. Red Wings fans insulting Phoenix for not selling out and not being a hockey market would do well to speak with their wallets on this one. Not only are lower bowl seats available but you can grab four tickets in the $40 range to game three at the Joe right now for face. Just process that for a while. How long would $40 tickets be on the market in Toronto for a playoff game? For that matter how long would they be on the market for a preseason game against Timbits?
Phoenix blog Five For Howling offers this as why you should cheer for Phoenix:
I look at your team and my team and I see in yours what we were a couple years ago. We were just starting to rebuild the right way. There may be a lot of work to be done in Toronto, but the pieces are starting to be put together and could be something special in the near future.
That old saying "flattery gets you nowhere" is completely wrong. We're able to be purchased for a bare minimum of flattery and a feel good pat on the back.
Matchup wise the Coyotes went 2-2-0 vs the Red Wings (Detroit went 2-0-2 against Phoenix). Phoenix scored 11 goals to Detroit's 13. Phoenix is 24th in goals per game (2.57) compared to Detroit who finished the season in 14th (2.74). On the other side of the puck Phoenix had the third stingiest goals against per game (2.39) while Detroit finished 7th in that stat (2.52). Oddly enough Detroit was outscored five on five (0.93 5-5 F/A ratio) and Phoenix took only 329 minor penalties (7th in the NHL). Here's that in handy chart form:
| PHX | DET | |
| Season Series (Points) | 4 | 6 |
| Goals per Game | 2.57 | 2.74 |
| Goals Against / Gm | 2.39 | 2.52 |
| 5 on 5 GF/GA | 1.15 | 0.93 |
| PP% | 14.6 | 19.2 |
| PK% | 84.5 | 83.9 |
Detroit's Jimmy Howard looks like a good goaltender but Ilya Bryzgalov looks like he's taking home the Vezina. The key to this series for Phoenix is going to be containing Detroit without taking minor penalties. If the Coyotes can do that (and if their ice is bad enough to hamper Detroit's puck possession game) they have a good chance at winning this series.
Detroit's really rolling right now though; this has potential to be a real battle and might be the best series of the first round. What do you think is going to happen?
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Editor’s note: I think Phoenix’s ice will be fine. DET fans are complaining about having to play in Arizona already.
As we know from the ACC it’s not temperature in the building that ruins ice it’s humidity. Phoenix is very dry so I’d expect them to have good ice.
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Just gotta say that we seriously love you guys to death. Hope we are able to both cheer on our teams in the postseason next year. Thanks for your support and for pressuring Travis to #ThrowTheSnake. It’s a real fun time to be a Coyotes fan and to be writing about it…
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Hell, if Nashville can throw catfish, you oughta throw a snake.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 13, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
ottawa iwas having a hard time trying to figure out how to throw overhyped failure onto the ice, but then they just realized that would happen when the Sens came out for warmups
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec’d for correctness. Which is the best kind of rec’d.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 13, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
There better be a snake thrown.
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I’ll agree to root for Phoenix if they agree to trade their first round draft pick to Toronto. The Coyotes don’t need it anways.
I’d rather take turris
or baby staal
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
baby staal had like a 10 game suspension this year
Burke must love him
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed, and Phoenix cant be too high on because of his shenanigans and lack of production
we need Travis hair to inform us of his value to the organization
Stephanovic for Jared Staal?
struggling prospect swap?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, I’m terrible at tracking prospects, He looked alright in camp, just was still kind of small. we’ll see how he does in the fall.
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JaredFromLondon: ...Odin, he's cool.
small? dude is 6’3 he must be a lanky fuck
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be unfortunate
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
hockey futures has him at just under 200, which was probably his draft weight (they seem to never update after that) so he is probably at least a little heavier
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s not small height wise, just was a little lanky from what I remember.
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JaredFromLondon: ...Odin, he's cool.
ah, well we have a few kids like that already (tall and lanky) in Caputi, Irwin, aulie and a few others
wouldnt be surprised if Burke made a run at him
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
we have nothing left to give up, I though
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, it would come down to how much Phoenix values him and if they think that he can turn it around or whatever.
it would have to be something like some late round picks or likewise lower end prospects with upside
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhh...
So it’s looking like Coyotes in 4 or 6… :P
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JaredFromLondon: ...Odin, he's cool.
only if you THROW THE SNAKE!!
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
“That old saying “flattery gets you nowhere” is completely wrong. We’re able to be purchased for a bare minimum of flattery and a feel good pat on the back."
That’s pretty funny.
Sorry, I think Pho will be this years CBJ. But i’m definitely cheering PHO on all the way.
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I’m cheering for Phoenix but I think it’ll be Detroit in 6.
I really really hope I’m wrong.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 13, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I really want Phoenix to go far, but the posts at Behind the Net have me doubting it.
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh.
Pegger. Numbers lie. Wings will bleed.
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JaredFromLondon: ...Odin, he's cool.
I hope so, that would be glorious.
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome – Wings will bleed. Like that. Using it.
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by MapleLeafMole on Apr 13, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell yeah – that’s my “hood” if you will
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by MapleLeafMole on Apr 13, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
No municipal deficit! (And no decent media outlets!)
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by MapleLeafMole on Apr 13, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes!
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Ummm...Wings hate much?
What’s the story, or does everyone think PHX will pick it up?
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mainly mostly because the wings had their recent “win every fucking year” and it got boring, that and the fan base has reacted poorly in recent memory
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d love to see the Red Wings’ sense of entitlement shaken.
What better way than getting taken out in the first round by Phoenix?
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 13, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
No one likes Goliath
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Unless it any team not named “Ottawa Senators” against the Habs
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 13, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure if that's intentional or not
but “Habs” and “Goliath” is the definition of antonym
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by blurr1974 on Apr 13, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless it any team not named "Ottawa Senators"
That was the goliath that i was referring to
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 13, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Except an Eastern Goliath, right? ;)
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by red army line on Apr 14, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Should it also be taken into account that the Coyotes would rather play in a half-empty arena in the desert than a full one in Hamilton?
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Hey, if they had moved, we wouldn’t have #ThrowTheSnake. What would a Hamilton crowd throw? Zoloft?
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by puckurgently on Apr 13, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
hahaha, oh man, that was good
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Should it also be taken into account that the Coyotes would rather play in a half-empty arena in the desert than a full one in Hamilton?
Speaking as someone who’s IN Hamilton….no, that shouldn’t be brought into it, at least partly because it’s not really true.
At the risk of sounding like an Internet meme, leave Coyotes fans ALONE! :-)
I’m happy that Travis-Who-Used-to-be-Odin and all his snake tossing minions have a dog in the fight, and I’d like nothing better than a Wings, Sens and Habs first round exit.
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by jrwendelman on Apr 13, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I’d like nothing better than a Wings, Sens and Habs first round exit.
Preach it!
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 13, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Amen brother!
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by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this a poll for Leaf fans to comment on?
“Coyotes in 4” is in the lead….really???
Then again, what do Leaf fans know about the playoffs anyways?
PS. A vote for Phoenix is a vote for Gary Bettman. Think about it….
a vote for the redwings is a vote for comunism
i picked phoenix in 7 so neeeaaaaaah
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Just wait
When they pull a 2003 Anaheim Ducks you can come back and apologise to us.
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Phoenix in 4 is delusional.
This will be a close series. I don’t know who will win. Detroit is 17-3-2 since the Olympics. Phoenix is 13-5-1. Pretty close.
I kind of hope Phoenix will, but I’m not that tied to it. I would like to see Chicago-Detroit at some point so the Hawks can win that series.
by Leaf in Habland on Apr 13, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
I sent people to mess it up.
It’ll be close, I’m of course picking the good guys, but in 6.
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JaredFromLondon: ...Odin, he's cool.
I agree. I was just surprised that Phoenix in 4 was in the lead. If anyone knows anything about hockey, you have to say this is going to be a close series and probably one of the best in the first round. I wouldn’t look past Phoenix and the Wings have been playing very well in the stretch.
My prediction is Wings in 6…and I say at least two games go to OT.
Coyotes in 4 leading is just a measure of how much we hate the Red Wings.
The reality is closer to what you said: 6 or 7 games.
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HAHAHA
Awesome. Awooooooooooooooooooooo
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JaredFromLondon: ...Odin, he's cool.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 13, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
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I think it would be great for Phoenix to go as far as they can in the Playoffs this year, but I can’t bring myself to pick against Detroit based on the way they played coming into the playoffs, and the fact that they’ve gone to the Finals the past 2 seasons.
DET in 6
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the yotes had 14 wins in the shootout this year. unfortunately for them, there are no shootout in the playoffs. just grueling double overtimes that vets like the wings are used to (except maybe jimmy howard). i love shane doan, but he’s light on playoff experience.
and the wings won 17 of their last 22 or something ridiculous like that.
wings in 5. sorry travis hair.
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I love this argument
that somehow the shootout is a detriment to us. It’s BS. We’re also 6-1 in OT. We don’t lose when we keep games close.
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JaredFromLondon: ...Odin, he's cool.
Most of us are still rooting for you guys, but confirming your underdog status.
I’d say that has worked pretty well for you this year so far.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 13, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
it’s not the OT or SO or any of that that has me worried. It’s how hot Detroit is going in, and their ability to face adversity.
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I also take Bryz over Howard any day of the week
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 13, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I saw a comment about how Bryz has been more prepared for every game this year than he has ever before. He could steal the series on his own, really.
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by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
a hot goalie can do a lot, in the playoffs. That’s why I picked the coyotes to win.
"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."
you’re 5-1 in 5-minute, 4 on 4 overtime. 20 other times – 75% of the time it went to OT – the game didn’t get resolved in that 5 minutes and went to shootout. the yotes ability in the shootout doesn’t give me any indication how they’ll do when things go beyond that first 5 minutes of overtime (which actually is different than regular season since it’s not 4-4). detroit’s hot and have a lot of veteran guys with tonnes of playoff experience. jimmy howard’s not as good as Bryz, but neither was osgood.
don’t get me wrong – i’d actually like to see the Yotes win, and I’ll be rooting for them. but in my playoff pool, i’m picking the Wings to win (and to win the cup as well I think).
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by TheOtherAndrew on Apr 13, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wings will win the series.
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by bestbostonsports on Apr 13, 2010 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
Cop out! You didn’t say in how many games!
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 13, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oops. Six
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by bestbostonsports on Apr 14, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
ahw, troll go bye bye
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