Go...Flyers?
by PPP on May 15, 2010 9:00 AM EDT
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PrintIt's no secret that we do not like the Flyers around here. Aside from just ripping on their fans, hating their players, and generally despising everything about the city Toronto also has some painful playoff history with the Philadelphia Flyers. The last playoff memory that we have is of Jeremy Roenick pouncing on a loose puck and firing a wrist shot over Eddie Belfour's glove hand to eliminate the Leafs. So normally we'd be cheering against them with every fibre of our being.
However, after completing a pretty impressive comeback, they face the Montreal Canadiens. Forget people that try to bury the rivalry. The Montreal Canadiens are in their first conference final in 17 years. Think about that for a second. The team with the most Stanley Cups including one in every decade has not won two playoff series in one Spring in 17 years. They have not even been good for the majority of those years. They are well on their way to falling off of their pedestal and becoming a team that treads solely on its history and not on any recent achievements. As Leaf fans, we know that making a Stanley Cup final is just like winning one. If you didn't know that just ask any Canucks fan. So yeah, it'll make me sick but...Go Flyers...BOOOOO SANTA! YAY PARALYSIS! *sticks finger down my throat* BLEARRRRRGH! Oh God, this is going to be tougher than I thought.
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- On Montreal's strategy of getting outshot and outchanced
- Something MF37 has mentioned frequently "Just make the playoffs and anything can happen" means "anything but win the Stanley Cup"
- Those in the know are voting with their wallet against the Habs
- Durrr, numbers hurt my head oh and read on in the comments for Montreal fans trying to divorce the fanbase from any responsibility for the looting and rioting.
- More on how the Habs were buried in chances
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I’ll be getting my velcro shoes out in a second. No way the Habs are going to the SCF
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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 15, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions
It’s funny to make fun of Flyers fans, but I don’t actually hate the team. I think they are a good model for what the Leafs could become: big on D, fast and skilled up front, grinders in the middle. Chicago/Philly final would be epic.
As for the looting. It’s funny that first there are all these stories about how the entire city is on board supporting the team, EVERYONE loves the Habs, but then when some people do stupid shit, they aren’t fans. Right. Montreal hockey fans=hypocrites all the way.
by Leaf in Habland on May 15, 2010 9:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Very true about the Flyers being a model for the Leafs to emulate. They also demonstrate that we don’t need epic goaltending to be successful, just league average, or not Vesa Toskala.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 15, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Vesa...
I was at the usual “head to the friends on Satuday” gathering and we got to watching those “History will be made” things.
There were two of Vesa Toskala and I fell into a sobbing, incoherent rage with each bad goal that jerk let in. After the 40th bad goal my tear ducts were dry and I had to drink more beer to get the liquids back. :(
by BesterThanYesterday on May 16, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No way, Chicago has a longer cup drought than the Leafs, it has to be SJ/Philly.
by scrambles the death dealer on May 15, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
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How does THAT work? Separating the person… from the… team?
Wow. That’s sick.
by not norm ullman on May 15, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow did Windsor ever lay the beating on Brandon last night.
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Outside of the fun at seeing Boston do the epic hockey fail, I’m amazed so many Philly fans know how to use the Internets.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 15, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
hello (sigh)
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by bestbostonsports on May 15, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions
dude……..
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by not norm ullman on May 15, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
whats your issue?
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by bestbostonsports on May 15, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Figured you were a Bruins fan. Just commiserating. Tough loss.
by not norm ullman on May 15, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
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by bestbostonsports on May 15, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
How does THAT work? Separating the person… from the… team?
Wow. That’s sick.
by not norm ullman on May 15, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
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by bestbostonsports on May 15, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong placement. Was Flyers mockery – meant for above.
by not norm ullman on May 15, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
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by bestbostonsports on May 15, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
my fault bro.
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by Chuck Diesel on May 15, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If Montreal’s fortune in these playoffs is calculated using the modern equation for a Cinderella or underdog team’s success in the post-season, they will indeed make it to the Stanley Cup final, only to lose (possibly in 7 games). I’m thinking Edmonton vs. Carolina in ’06, Calgary losing to Tampa in ’04, Anaheim when they lost to the Devils in ’03, Carolina when they lost to Detroit in ’02, etc.
If you throw in Ottawa losing to Anaheim in ’07, you can add a Canadian element to that equation as well.
What I’m trying to say is, I wouldn’t be too worried. The Western Conference has arguably been stronger over the last decade. Once Cinderella finally gets to the ball, she’s too damn tired from all the dirty work to get anything done. I think both San Jose and Chicago are clearly the better TEAMS than Montreal. They’re not not just loaded with more individual skill, they’re bigger and stronger and play a more complete game.
To touch on the Canadian element of that equation…when a Canadian team makes it to the finals, there’s seems to be an added pressure to the be there first Canadian team since ’93 (ahem) to win a Stanley Cup.
Maybe I’m just blowing smoke out my ass but I think all these things add up to something.
Just realized this post is littered with grammatical errors.
Serves me right for trying to think immediately after I woke up.
by Alex Grantham on May 15, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Will I be executed, if I say this?
I would love a Philly/Chicago Finals, and Philly winning it all… (Y’know chicago longer drought) and also… I really think Brian Burke is building his team just like Philly team. Actually when the season started I was hoping for a Ducks / Flyers Finals… until Ducks went ka-BOOM… but yeah What are your thoughts?
San Jose all the way.
Then probably Chicago second, just because after they have to tear down their team next year it will probably be another 49 years before the next Cup.
Then Philly, cause, well they are Philly.
That is all.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 15, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here. I want San Jose to take it down.
Lots of good Canadian players and Clowe is a Newf.
I think San Jose will take it down anyway..
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I’m at the point where i don’t care anymore. I’ll have a reason to be upset at any outcome…but the Sharks the least so, I guess.
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This statement amazes me on so many levels it’s impossible to pick just one to make fun of.
I was kind of curious to see where the Leaf faithfull would go with this series and I’m not disappointed that certain elements are remaining true to themselves. Enjoy your fun!
Holy shit… the fact that you did not see the sarcasm in that comment is pathetic.
Go away and come back when you understand what you are reading.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 15, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Robert, we’re just waiting for one, just one, Habs fan to acknowledge that their presence in the ECF is on the very slimmest of margins and a whole boat-load of luck.
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Good luck.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 15, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
To further sum up
That comment was a dig at Vancouver fans who still beat the drum about ’94.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 15, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It works on so many levels.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 15, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
Didn’t the Sens win the Cup that year?
Alfie guaranteed it, so they must have….
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 15, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Explain the ways in which it amazes you. Is it that fans of other Candian team that have made the final pretend it’s just as good as winning one? Yeah, that amazes me too.
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by Matt_Roberts on May 17, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Is there luck involved?
Of course there is. None of the teams that are left would be there without luck on their side. We’ve had the benefit of a few goalposts, opposing goaltenders breaking down at crucial times, but mostly lucky that a guy we picked in the 9th round turned out to be one of the best goalies in the league. That was a huge lucky break.
As for the looting, I saw a couple of Canadiens jerseys in the video, so we can’t pretend that none of it is done by Habs fans. What can I say? Every franchise has their idiots. Ours burn cop cars and steal socks. Yours trade away first round draft picks and think Dion Phaneuf will make a good captain.
You had so much material to work with when you started picking on our GMs. And then you missed the mark so, so hard.
by Bower Power on May 15, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think he wants us to point out that the Habs actually switched GMs halfway through the year. Their management is so much smarter than ours they got rid of the guy who put this team together! And were glad to run him out of town for it too.
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by T is for Truculence on May 15, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
Had me right up until the last sentence. Won’t even discuss the first round draft pick trade thing because fans don’t actually make trades in the real world.
As for the ‘and think Dion Phaneuf will make a good captain’ that’s pretty arbitrary for you to say.
First off, he has never been a captain so there isn’t any past history saying he will be a bad or good one. Second, he came into the room and started holding people accountable…the effort level increased dramatically.
Third, this coming from a fan of a franchise that didn’t even offer the heart and soul of the team, Koivu, a contract. The guy bled for you for 9 years, had cancer, donated his time and money to the community… and most of the rumblings coming out of habland is Markov for captain. Markov? are you freakin kidding me?
You don’t have a leg to stand on, buddy.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 15, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
He had me until the end too.
It’s funny how other fans think that they’re experts when it comes to the Leafs. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t know much about other teams because I just don’t have the time to be informed. I don’t think many of us would ever go to an opposing team’s blog and tell them all about their team. We agonize over the quality and direction of this team 12 months of the year we know our strengths and deficiencies better than anyone.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 15, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, so now you're going to make fun of my legs, huh?
My last sentence wasn’t in reference to the fans. I can provide more clues if you like.
You’re right, there is no past history with Phaneuf captaincy. And he’s probably not a locker room cancer when the going gets tough, seeing as how Calgary was so desperate to get rid of him that they cashed him in for spare parts from a bottom-dweller. Good to hear that he started holding people accountable. Looks like he was able to turn the team around and start winning just after none of the games meant anything. That’s leadership!
Koivu was a treat to have, but he had his chances and couldn’t get the job done. It was time for him to go, and we wish him well.
I don’t know how long it’s been since you’ve listened to a good rumble, but these days the talk is Gionta and Gorges. Markov is a great player, but just doesn’t have the personality for a captain. Don’t get me wrong, he’d make a better captain than Phaneuf, I’m just glad we have other options.
by MatsNaslund26 on May 15, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, so many great leadership options in montreal, I mean Hal Gill is wearing an A
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by JaredFromLondon on May 15, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You've got me there
Stanley Cup champion Hal Gill, who’s leading the playoffs in blocked shots and just spent the last month shutting down the three best players in the league. What a terrible leader. I can’t argue with that logic.
by MatsNaslund26 on May 15, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
/sigh
ok, you want to talk logic, give me one logical reason why Markov is a better C candidate than Phaneuf?
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by JaredFromLondon on May 15, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Robert
Neither are ideal captains. Markov is too quiet, and Phaneuf is not mature enough. I think he is locker room cancer; that is an opinion and up for debate, but surely you guys must agree that he is bat-shit crazy. I will admit that is a positive quality in a lot of ways in hockey, but that’s not the dude you want as your captain.
by MatsNaslund26 on May 16, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
How do you know he is a locker room cancer? Because the media said so? No players came out and said it. Actually, the Leaf players who commented on his arrival said he was a positive influence on the locker room. There are no facts that suggest he’s not good captain material.
On the Habs, I might go with Cammalleri, not just because he’s scoring clutch goals now, but because he really seems to be leading the team out there. I’ve heard Gorges, but I don’t buy it. I don’t think he’s a good enough player. You don’t have to be an all-star, but he’s basically just a steady D-man. A captain should be able to elevate his game when the chips are down, and he doesn’t have the talent ceiling to do that. Not to say he isn’t good at his job, but you need a big performer.
Phaneuf can do that. The Leafs were 25 pts in 20 games after he arrived. He clearly had some positive influence. I get that you don’t like the Leafs but that doesn’t mean everything they do is wrong. A realistic perspective is possible.
by Leaf in Habland on May 16, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
So you’re an expert? You really shouldn’t make comments like this on things you know nothing about. If anything, Dion is the opposite of a ‘locker room cancer’, as is evident from what he did to the Leafs’ dressing room since he arrived; everyone involved with the team said he is a positive presence and a motivator. How is that being a ‘cancer’ in the locker room?
We’re the ones devoid of logic while you talk about heart, maturity and intangibles.
Where are you getting information on Markov being too quiet? What makes you think Phaneuf isn’t mature?
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you seem to forget Hal Gill was a Leaf, and that he played the EXACT way he does now back then. just because he is a good shut down defender doesnt make him a good leader. Just like ovechkin being a 50-60 goal scorer doesnt make him a good leader or Luongo being a fantastic regular season goaltender make him a good leader
Hal Gill is a terrible leader, end point
Nick Kypreos has a cup ring, does that make him a good leader?
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by JaredFromLondon on May 15, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Well he's got to be a better leader than hockey analyst
Gill’s leadership has contributed to an 8 seed that was supposed to get swept in the first round being in the conference finals after taking out the Presidents trophy winners and defending Stanley Cup champs. If Skillsie can figure out how to work a telestrator, I can’t think of a single reason for Kypreos to be alive at all.
Anyway, I do have to get running now. I’ll check back in later to make sure my rock solid arguments haven’t taken any further criticism.
by MatsNaslund26 on May 15, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, your argument is rock solid, if we are talking about shale.
I hearby declare Phaneuf to be a great leader because he is dating Jack Bauers daughter and gives Pierre McQuire wet dreams.
that has about as much to do with leader ship as “he is a good shut down defender on a team that is riding a shit ass luck streak and a ridiculously hot goaltender”
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by JaredFromLondon on May 15, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Gill’s leadership has contributed to an 8 seed that was supposed to get swept in the first round being in the conference finals after taking out the Presidents trophy winners and defending Stanley Cup champs
According to this argument, anyone on the Habs would therefore make a good leader, as all of their “leadership” has contributed to the above mentioned feat? Why not make Lapierre captain? He is definitely the leader in terms of the new ‘diving and unsportsmanlike play’ movement.
Carey Price’s door opening skills led the Habs to two upsets: Carey Price for Captain.
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Funny jibe re: Phaneuf. Too bad you didn’t take into account that Darryl Sutter is a complete idiot. It’s well known that most in the NHL were shocked that Phaneuf was available, and in fact he would have attracted a lot more in a trade if Sutter wasn’t a complete failure at his job.
I don’t know what the general consensus about Koivu was among Hab fans, all I know from what I saw is that he was treated awfully by fans and taken for granted. Criticizing Koivu for not speaking French was a total joke and an insult to a heart and soul skilled player who gave everything he had for that team.
Gionta or Gorges for captain? Good luck with that. Phaneuf will be a much better captain, IMO.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Just one last quick note
Koivu was loved by the fans, and many would love to have him back on the team right now. As I said before, I think it’s best that he stay where he is now. He was criticized for not speaking French by French politicians because they think they have a say in the Montreal Canadiens. That is a huge problem with the team, and one that we are rightly mocked for.
by MatsNaslund26 on May 15, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s best that he stay where he is now
Probably true, whatever he had as a Hab, that ship has now sailed. I didn’t think the Habs should have let him go in the first place, but that’s debatable, and a moot point now in any case.
He was criticized for not speaking French by French politicians because they think they have a say in the Montreal Canadiens. That is a huge problem with the team, and one that we are rightly mocked for
Well, at least we can agree on one thing. :)
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Quote: “Every franchise has their idiots. Ours burn cop cars and steal socks. Yours trade away first round draft picks and think Dion Phaneuf will make a good captain.”
How are you not talking about the fans? Unless you’re saying it was Montreal management that was out there “burning cop cars and stealing socks.”
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by T is for Truculence on May 15, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Jacques Martin likes argyle
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by JaredFromLondon on May 15, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Gives new meaning to “Habs Eyes on the Prize.”
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by T is for Truculence on May 15, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my god, I'm going to get trapped in here forever.
I see how you guys do things. Just to clarify, my second last sentence was about fans. My last sentence was not.
May the Lord truly bless all of you. Good night for now.
by MatsNaslund26 on May 15, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, we follow things like sentence structure and logic. It is tres horrible. I’m not looking to get into an argument with you because most everything else you’ve said is reasonable, so why don’t we just leave it at that.
Of course, you probably still think I’m an idiot so maybe we’ll just agree to disagree.
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by T is for Truculence on May 15, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
You join our blog just to insult our franchise and fans, and we people call you on it, you act like you’re above it, well played.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 15, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, I don’t really mind when fans of other teams slag our team. We dish it out as good as we can take it. It’s when they act like they are somehow better people or more “mature” that really annoys me.
If you’re going to be a jerk, at least man up to it. Don’t be a hypocrite.
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by T is for Truculence on May 15, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly, there’s plenty to insult Leafs fans about and I love a good game of the dozens as much as the next guy.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 15, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to apologize.
I genuinely did not mean to come off as condescending. Yes, obviously I came here to be a smarmy dick taking cheap shots at your team, but not in any way like I was better than anyone or above anything.
The “I’m going to get trapped in here forever” was in reference to my surprise at the automatic comment refresh. After I said I was leaving, more comments kept popping up on the screen that I felt I should respond to. This was my first day on SB Nation, and I’ve never seen a site that posts new comments as they happen without me refreshing the page. Your page contained such incredible future science that my brain was not able to digest it. I was on my way out the door, and comments kept popping up, that’s all I meant. Not like I’m too good for it, as I was still responding to the comments. It was just that I was late. My apologies.
by MatsNaslund26 on May 16, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
then you worded it poorly
OUR (referring to Habs fans) burn cop cars etc then you jumped right into YOUR (but suddenly you are talking about management) trade picks
if you want to talk about two different groups you have to break it up and state that you are talking about a different subject if you don’t want to be misunderstood
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by JaredFromLondon on May 15, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You know he’s going to run to some Habs blog now and yuk it up about the “crazy stupid laffs fans”. The circle continues.
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by T is for Truculence on May 15, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want to know why he thinks Gill is a fantastic leader and Phaneuf isnt, I don’t know what is so hard about the question
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by JaredFromLondon on May 15, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember back in like NHL 2000 or something when the players had a “Leadership” rating. I always wondered what that was for. What did it matter that Ray Bourque’s rating was 100 and Sundin’s was 90?
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by T is for Truculence on May 15, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably nothing, from my experience editing and creating players there were certain attributes that you could max out and it would have no impact on the player’s overall score.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 15, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember that game had Gretzky as a secret player in the “undrafted” folder.
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by T is for Truculence on May 15, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, and there was a few that had George Strombolopolous in there as well, pretty funny.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 15, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
My argument against Phaneuf is above
I do think Gill is a good leader (although I would prefer Gionta as captain) and here are some reasons why:
He is in his 13th season, on his fourth team. He’s managed to last almost 1,000 games in the NHL despite his lack of speed and physical game. He’s big and he gets in the way of shit, and he’s the best in the league at it. He can read plays and he sacrifices his body for the team. Most of all, he’s a relaxing presence in the dressing room. I think that adds up to a good leader, but I’m not in charge of anyone’s team. You want to slap the C on Charles Manson, dig in.
by MatsNaslund26 on May 16, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Say what you will about my team
But don’t you DARE attack my phenomenal sentence structure. In the sentence “every franchise has their idiots”, the object is “idiots”. Therefore, in the following sentence, “our” represents “our idiots”. This is a reference to the idiotic fans who burn cop cars and steal socks; they are our franchise’s idiots. In the sentence following that, “yours” represents “your idiots”. This is a reference to your esteemed General Manager who traded away your first round draft picks; he is your franchise’s idiot.
As a side note, I don’t actually think that Brian Burke is an idiot. It was an outrageously clever cheap shot at his expense, because I believe he came out on the worse end of that particular exchange, despite his win of other trades (but hilarious jokes aside, I really do believe that Dion Phaneuf will be a terrible captain).
by MatsNaslund26 on May 16, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
He gave up a whole bunch of guys that were getting us nowhere for a stud D-man and future captain. The idiot in the exchange is Sutter. I guess if you don’t like Phaneuf, then that skews your view of it though. And let’s be honest, after finding a taker for Toskala AND Blake, Burke has to do a LOT of stupid shit before being demoted to idiot status.
by Leaf in Habland on May 16, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, good effort. Hard to argue opinions. You say Hall Gill would make a good captain and we say no.
We say Dion will make a good captain, and you say no.
We have presented some pretty good arguments to support our cause, and you have not been able to logically prove that Phaneuf would be a bad captain. Your knowledge of him is less than average, as is your grasp on the current situation of the Leafs.
Maybe Gill would be a good leader, I don’t know. Personally, I don’t care.
Feel free to come back and debate in the future, but bring something tangible to the table next time.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 16, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The sentence was fine. This is a waste of a discussion.
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This is a waste of a discussion.
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by JaredFromLondon on May 16, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh
Markov is such a great option for captain that he turned down the opportunity.
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mostly lucky that a guy we picked in the 9th round turned out to be one of the best goalies in the league. That was a huge lucky break.
LOL. Exactly. At least you understand that. read the Behind The Net posts and you’ll get a good idea of how lucky your team is and you can enjoy your run even more.
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I'm going for Philly because...
They are a team built like a Brian Burke team.
Them going to the finals is a vote of confidence for all of us. Skill, toughness and leadership. That’s what Toronto will be sooner than later!
The Habs are the best team in the world! Go Flyers!
by Shield on May 15, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I liked that.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 16, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Flyers Fans though they may be
Singing ‘Ole Ole Ole Ole’ being up 4-0 in the second is pretty fucking funny.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 16, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
They're still despicable
But somehow, I like them. At least this series. ;)
Truculence...starting 10/1/09
Oh man that had to piss Habs fans off.
“That’s our song! They can’t do that!”
No, it’s not. It’s a soccer song.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 16, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
6-0 Flyers. I like that, but it’s too early to get excited. Pittsburgh blew their doors off in game 1 of that series, and look how THAT turned out.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
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