Veteran Forwards for Kaberle
by lordosis on Jun 2, 2010 5:36 PM EDT
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PrintSo, with Tomas Kaberle all but gone soon, I thought it'd be interesting to see what kind of forwards are out there, like him, with one season left until UFA. The following list is far from exhaustive, and most (all?) wouldn't be worth Kaberle, but nevertheless I was curious to see if there were any I'd consider taking for a season, and hope to swoon into resigning. The way I see it, we need forwards, and if we get a decent quality one, and are able to keep him, it could go a long way to boosting us back to respectability (and the playoffs).
TEAM PLAYER 2010-11 Cap Hit*
BOS Patric Bergeron $4.75
BUF Tim Connolly $4.50
COL Milan Hejduk $3.00
DAL Brad Richards $7.80
LAK Justin Williams $3.50
MIN Mikko Koivu $3.25
NSH Jason Arnott $4.50
PHI Simon Gagne $5.25
SJ Joe Thornton $7.20
STL David Backes $2.50
TB Martin St. Louis $5.25
WSH Alexander Semin $6.00
*Cap hit in millions, from capgeek.com
Looking at the list, a few players could be of interest, though not all are feasible of course. Bergeron, Gagne, and Connolly could be quality players if they could stay healthy. Richards and Thornton have huge hits, but are huge producers. St. Louis and Arnott are too old for our rebuilding team. Koivu, Semin, Backes, are the ones who seem to match up well both in production and age. Any thoughts on whether we'd be happy with a 1 for 1 trade for them?
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Even if they don’t resign? I guess even then, since they’d still be a nice upgrade in that they wouldn’t have a NTC and we could possible get something good for them at the deadline.
Koivu or Backes
would solve the big centre problem the Leafs have.
Backes would also be a good fit with his relationship with Burke and Wilson through the US Nat’l team.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
yea koivu is pretty underrated, the guy has turned into a very good player over the past couple seasons
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
His defensive stats look amazing.
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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Mikko is the one I’d take in a second, he is on a good contract, he can score, he is very good 2 ways and he is very under the radar
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
he’s also team captain and poised to become probably the greatest player in franchise history (due to Gaborik’s injuries) and therefore unattainable
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by Karina on Jun 3, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
but they have clutterbuck!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I doubt with Burns and Zidlicky that they’re looking to acquire Kaberle at the cost of their best forward. That said, I still love the guy.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
the have Barker now too.
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by Karina on Jun 3, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed, not good trading partners
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like
the guys in the poll are all reaches in a 1-for-1, IMO.
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Agreed.
This is a bit of dreaming I think, but frankly after some of the other outrageous trade proposals i’ve been reading lately, this is a breath of fresh air in comparison.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 3, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but I can at least see a set of circumstances where we could trade for Backes. It’s not like the ludicrous spare-parts-for-Bobby-Ryan rumours that have been doing the rounds.
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Backes seems the most likely. Koivu if he wasn’t so good too, since look at how Minny shielded MA Bergeron during his time there—they could pull the same stunt for Kaberle.
Burke has said he wants a big scoring winger with some physicality, right? Eric Fehr maybe (though WSH probably doesn’t want Kaberle—need a third team then)?
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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I honestly wouldn’t be that surprised to see Connoly coming back… the Sabres GM stated that his priority this offseason is to get a puck-moving defenseman, and when he was asked if Connoly’s returning he said something along the lines of “Well, I don’t now… I guess he’s signed though, so yeah”.
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by Karina on Jun 3, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
Connoly or stafford + Adam and their 1st!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m assuming this is your typically “Bobby Ryan!!!!1” sarcasm because that would be grand theft larceny.
by The '67 Sound on Jun 3, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d have to want Connolly+. Many comments over at Die by the Blade think he has 0 trade value.
Also, I noticed Buffalo prospect Zach Kassian decided to go get himself arrested on an assault charge. Nice one!
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 3, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Kassian strikes me as a super headcase
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Luckily for us, Darcy Regier realizes that trade value for a 60-point player is much greater than zero, unlike everyone else who only counts his last 6 games (when with a broken foot while determining his trade value. Especially when its the player that single-handedly increases power-play efficiency by 25% and kills penalties as well.
Zach Kassian is crazy. Darcy Tucker level of crazy. We just need to get him a Sean Avery shock collar and all will be fine :).
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Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Kassian has to be prove hes darcy tucker crazy before you can call him darcy tucker crazy
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
he has to kamikaze an other teams bench first
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Alas, you can’t get away with kamikaze-ing benches anymore, but he did fight an entire line by himself once.
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Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s the cool thing to do in Buffalo these days.
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He’s only a PPG player who is our only good power play guy not named Vanek, and is underpaid only because he didn’t have a bionic hip last year. Clearly no trade value.
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Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
yeah
I don’t get the hate, dude’s talented.
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by Karina on Jun 3, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d love to have Connelly even if he is splodeybones 2.0. Typical overreaction to a playoff loss.
by The '67 Sound on Jun 3, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
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by Karina on Jun 3, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
plus, we’ve nearly replaced all of his silly splodybones parts with cybernetic implants!
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sadly the leafs used up all their spare parts on antro and carlo
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know. I was making a Patrick Kane joke.
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for what its worth I liked your Patrick Kane joke.
by ShahofToronto on Jun 3, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry. Brad Richards is off-limits. You can have Ribeiro or Morrow if you really want, though…
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jun 3, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions
pass
how about Erikson,Neal or Benn?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you guys’d trade your captain?
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by Karina on Jun 3, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s not a very good captain. The problem with Morrow is that he has a no-trade clause and I can’t see how he’d prefer Toronto over Dallas.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jun 3, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
oh wow
I am actually incredibly surprised by your statement that he is not a good captain.
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by Karina on Jun 3, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too, I thought Dallas loved him. I thought these were the reasons he was on the Olympic team.
by The '67 Sound on Jun 3, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I’d do it, hands down.
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by Karina on Jun 3, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i wonder if he knows luke
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hm.
Maybe. I’d wanna think about it. It seems like a good deal for both sides, but BRR’s willingness to get rid of him makes me wonder. Also, I looked at his advanced stats last night and wasn’t overly impressed. I mean they’re OK, but not great.
"Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?"
I wouldn’t call it shaky as much as a redic hot start that got mellowed by the team being terrible, then getting gutted and then having his ice time pretty much halved
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Morrow came off a terrible leg injury.
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by Karina on Jun 3, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
so he is injury prone?
NO THANKS!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 3, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
about as willing as we are to dump Kabby…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 3, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s kind of selfish. He’s not horrible, but there are definitely guys that would make a better captain.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jun 3, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
who would you give the C to on the Stars?
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by Karina on Jun 3, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Stephane Robidas. Or follow the trend of young captains and give it to Neal or Benn.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jun 5, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
So yeah
No. Your not getting Backes for Kaberle.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
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