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Righting a Terrible Wrong: Induct Doug Gilmour into the Hall of Fame

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Editor's Note: The 2010 Hockey Hall of Fame class will be announced tomorrow. Last year Doug Gilmour just missed the cut but Plea From A Cat Named Felix makes the convincing case that Gilmour's time is now.

As has been frequently mentioned in the past few days, Doug Gilmour should be inducted into the Hall of Fame this year. The fact that he already is not, is something of a minor travesty and miscarriage of justice. One of the impediments to his enshrinement in the past has been the presence of first-ballot players. This year lacks any undisputable first-ballot stars so it’s time to right this terrible wrong.

Gilmour has always been my favourite Leaf, which causes me to look at him with blue-tinted glasses. When I started thinking about this post I thought that I would have to work really hard at making his stats look as good as possible and make a really strong and impassioned argument. After about three minutes of research I became irate that he was not in the Hall already. It’s clear from his stats that Gilmour is one of the best NHL players yet to be enshrined in the Hall. His absence is a national embarrassment. Seriously Hockey Hall of Fame, Come on!

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 The Case for Gilmour:

 The Stats:

 Regular Season Stats:

 

Drafted 134th Overall in 1983 by the St. Louis Blues

1474 games played: 450 goals, 964 assists, 1414 points.

 

11 straight 20+ goals seasons

3 100+ point seasons

17th All-time Regular Season Points

12th All-time Regular Season Assists

16th All-time Games Played

 

Playoff Stats:

182 games played, 60 goals, 128 assists, 188 points.

7th All-time Playoff Points (tied with Joe Sakic)

24th All-time Playoff Games Played

5th All-time Playoff Assists

13 Playoff Game Winning Goals

 

Awards:

 1 Canada Cup

1 Stanley Cup

Selke Trophy Winner 1992-1993

Hart Trophy Nominee 1992-1993.

 

Making the Case:

I believe that Killer should be inducted to the Hall soley based on his stats. It is clear from the stats that Gilmour is an elite player. The only players that rank higher than him in All-time points not in the Hall of Fame are either not yet eligible, (Sakic or Jagr) still playing (Recchi) or are Adam Oates. Sakic and Jagr will be first ballot Hall of Famers, and both Oates and Recchi will likely end up in the Hall. In terms of the company he keeps on the All-time points rankings he should be a shoo-in.

To say that Dougie was clutch would be like saying Kerry Fraser is sort of a douchebag. Gilmour amassed 188 career playoff points over 17 playoff seasons. This puts him ahead of Yzerman and just behind Sakic. He is the only member of the Top 10 eligible not currently in the Hall. He is ranked 5th in playoff assists and once again is the only member of the Top 10 not yet in the Hall. Gilmour was a key piece of the Flames team that won the cup in 1989. He was third in team points with 22, 11 goals, and 11 assists. He played on the penalty kill and helped shut-down the opposition’s top talent. He scored two goals in game six one being the Cup winning goal that beat the Habs in their own building, this only strengthens his case.

His case is made even more convincing when you look at aspects of his career that are not reflected on the score sheet. As noted above Gilmour was a Selke Trophy winner and one of the best two-way players of his generation. He was nominated for the Hart Trophy in 1992-93 but lost to Mario Lemieux. Lemieux put up 69 goals and 91 assists that year, so it’s hard to fault Douggie for not winning that year. Gilmour was a leader and Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs for 3 years during their resurgence in the 1990s. Being a key component of a group that brought the Leafs back to respectability from the Ballard era should not be overlooked. For those years he was one of the elite players in the NHL at a time when Gretzky, Messier, and Lemieux were still tearing down the biz.

The fact that Gilmour has been overlooked for this long is mitigated by the presence of some excellent first-year eligible players over the last few years. It is obvious that Gilmour belongs in the Hall on the basis of his stats; leadership, strong defensive play, clutch playoff performances, additionally the fact that he has not murdered Kerry Fraser in revenge makes this an open and shut case.

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No brainer

If Glenn Anderson, Luc Robitaille, Bernie Federko, Pat Lafontaine, Clark Gillies and Bernie Freaking Federko are in the Hall, Dougie is a no brainer.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 21, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Indeed

Like I said, I felt the same way before writing this, but after looking at his stats, and thinking about his time in Toronto in the context of killing the Ballard Era his exclusion made my blood boil.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a tough class, but Gilmour has a lot of fans in the Toronto media. I would be shocked if he didn’t make it.

by birky on Jun 21, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Tough class but Gilmour deserves to be in. Don’t think perceived Toronto bias will help as much as the fact that his numbers speak for themselves.

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by PPP on Jun 21, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly, if you ignore everything else and simply look at his stats he’s a no-brainer.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

The voters on the Hall board are really good at ignoring stats.

by HockeyJoe on Jun 21, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but then he becomes the Saviour of the Maple Leafs in the 1990s, even better!

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

♥ Gilmour

I think he may be my first man-crush.

Hard to forget your first…

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 21, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

nice…

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 21, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn right it is

My Fan Base Can Beat Up Your Fan Base

by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

You see that Blake, THAT’S what a wrap-around should look like!

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love that no one knows it’s in already!

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by PPP on Jun 21, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

almost forgot I had this...

Sweet toe drag, fakes the shot, switches to the back hand and in the back of the net. Classic Gilmour

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 21, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This isn’t a strong year of eligibles, but I think that Gilmour is at the top of the list. Last year’s class was a hard one to make, but I think that he should make it. For me, the only locks are Doug Gilmour and Joe Nieuwendyk.

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jun 21, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, I think that Bure will make it as well.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dino

Some day he’ll get in. Over 600 goals is hard to argue with!

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by PPP on Jun 21, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still no Alex Mogilny in the Hall though :/

Not even the Toronto Maple Leafs could kill my optimism

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 21, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

In AlMo’s case, I think it’s because he isn’t officially retired yet, so he hasn’t waited the requisite three years (or whatever the time frame is)

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 21, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

is he a HOfer though…?

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Jun 21, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

might be close, but I think so. Top 50 in all time goals scored and his PPG rate is better than guys who’ve already gotten in.

Probably not a first ballot guy though

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 21, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably borderline, if indeed (as some have speculated) they are trying to toughen up the standards. Electric player, but only had 2 truly stellar years. For those who put any stock in it, his career GVT is 75th overall, just ahead of Andreychuk and Billy Smith and just behind Theo Fleury and Keith Tkachuk.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 21, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Numbers-wise he is probably borderline. What puts him over the top in my book is the defection. It’s not a scenario that is likely to happen again, but I feel it is a story that deserves to be remembered.

...rely a bit to heavily on alcohol and irony...

by My Poor Friend Me on Jun 21, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I teared up when they honored Dougie’s jersey. I was just a kid when the Leafs made the 93 run, and to me Dougie was better than superman and batman combined
(actually, now that i think about it, he totally still is).

So, yeah, Gilmour fuckin rules. He better end in the HHOF

by samspade on Jun 21, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d put Dougie and Bure in before Nieuewendyk.

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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 21, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think that should even be very close. Dougie has higher peak and better totals than both.

Would you have even considered trading Gilmour for either from 92-94, when all three were at their peak? Me neither.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 21, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

To argue otherwise would be heresy.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t have traded Dougie for anyone in the league in 92-94. But if you forced me make a short list of guys I’d have considered it for, Bure would have been be on there. Guy was unbelievable.

But yeah, I love Nieuwy as much as any Leaf fans but I never found myself watching him and thinking “I’m seeing a future HOFer tonight”.

Same with Adam Oates, actually. I have no idea why that is, but it is.

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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 21, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same with Adam Oates, actually. I have no idea why that is, but it is.

Adam Oates to me was one of those guys you never really noticed on the ice, but at the end of every game, he always ended up with 3 assists. Obviously, my bias plays into this heavily, but if I never noticed Doug Gilmour on the ice at any point of a game, the Leafs lost that night.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

he was amazing while playing with a broken ankle

Favourite player

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Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 21, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

living in CA, people ask me why i like hockey so much (not realizing I’m Canadian and it’s bred into us…) and I always tell them the story of Dougie’s ankle.

the personification of grit and heart.

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 21, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oates is a weird case

Huge counting stats but never counted among the greatest. His best year, IIRC, was with the Bruins in the early 90s and he had absolutely no one around him.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 21, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct, he had 145 points in 92-93 playing on a line with Joe Juneau (fellow RPI alum) and Dmitri Kvartalnov. Juneau had 32 goals and Kvartalnov had 30. Cam Neely only played 13 games that year for the Bruins.

Oates was also Brett Hull’s center when he scored 72 goals in 89-90 and 86 goals in 90-91. He was traded the following season at/near the deadline for Craig Janney and others. Oates finished tied for second with Brendan Shanahan on the Blues in scoring that season despite only playing 59 games for the Blues that year.

Sure he didn’t score a lot of goals (341) but he finished sixth all time in assists. What’s a brother gotta do to get recognized for being one of the best set-up men of all time?

by HockeyJoe on Jun 21, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

…he had 145 points in 92-93 playing on a line with Joe Juneau (fellow RPI alum) and Dmitri Kvartalnov. Juneau had 32 goals and Kvartalnov had 30.

That is awe-inspiring.

by Grabovski's better than you think on Jun 22, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

22nd biggest single-season point total of all time (8th in the non-Gretzky/Lemieux division) and he did it with a pair of scrubs. Amazing.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 22, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

You had me at ‘Induct Gilmour into the Hall of Fame’

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 21, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

OH WHAT THE FUCK

TSNBobMcKenzie

Dino Cicarelli, Angela James and Cammi Granato to HHOF in player category. Jimmy Devellano and Doc Seaman in builder. Shocked no Pat Burns.

by KerryFraser on Jun 22, 2010 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m mad about Gilmour, I’m disgusted about Burns.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 22, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who the hell is on the selection committee?

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 23, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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