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11 Games: Before and After Phaneuf

Jonas Gustavsson played in 42 Games for the Leafs in 2009-2010. More importantly, he played 11 of those games after the arrival of Dion Phaneuf and Fredrik Sjostrom.

As Gustavsson is the main constant between the Leafs pre and post-Phaneuf, I wondered if Leaf fans could observe anything of note by comparing stats from the games Gustavsson played in before and after the January 31st makeover of the Toronto Maple Leafs

Now, I'll be the first to admit that this is a ridiculously small sample size and it would be folly to draw any conclusions from it. I'm not posting this as any type of statistically valid study, nor am I suggesting that these numbers can be extrapolated into something larger. I'm simply collecting the math and posting it here to further the discussion on whether the Leafs' so-called turnaround might have been the result of new players arriving or if it had more to do with the departure of Vesa Toskala and his sub-par play.

The following table should be self-explanatory.

The middle column lists the Leafs' stats in games that Gustavsson played prior to the acquisition of Phaneuf and Sjostrom; the column on the right has the stats for games that Gustavsson played post-Phaneuf and Sjostrom.

 

Pre-January 31 (31 games)

Post January 31 (11 games)

SV%

.870

.911

Avg. shots-against per game

26.74

28.36

GAA

2.61

2.55

PK

74.3%

85.6%

PP

13.8%

17.0%

Times Short-handed/ game

3.26

3.45

PP opportunities/game

3.8

3.8

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Judging by the marked increases to the Sv% and PK%, I think it’s safe to say that even in the NHL, good coaching is a byproduct of good players. Vesa Toskala was just a horrid goaltender, but that doesn’t excuse the coaching staff and management for allowing a team to severely undermine themselves by not correcting these defensive/goaltending shortcomings much earlier in the season.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think you've got Gustavsson's GAA right

for the 31 games pre-Phaneuf.

 He played in the equivalent to 27.7072221 games in ice time (1662:26 in TOI) and he let in 84 goals… that works out to a GAA of 3.02 not 2.61.

Either way, I’m not sure how much of that is a result of the Leafs… if you look at his monthly splits (just as ridiculously short as far as sample size goes), he varied between playing ridiculously well in December (.928 SV% and 1.86 GAA to go along with 1 shut out), and horribly in January (.889 SV% and 3.36 GAA). He didn’t really play a good game in February either… since he only played 1 game.

His hot streak was mainly confined to his 7 game winning streak in March, and he was sub-par in two of those starts, but got great offensive support. I’m not chalking the whole thing up to Phaneuf and Sjostrom when frankly I don’t think either player is superior to White or Hagman respectively from last season.

Perhaps Giguere had an impact as a practicing partner? or a mentorship role? But I’m not going to rack one up for the leadership of our new captain until it sustains itself for a while longer than 7 games.

You also need to consider the competition (which makes sense since the Leafs were sheltering him a tad). Here are the teams he recorded victories against in the order they occurred in the season:

Anaheim, Carolina, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Florida, Montreal, Boston, Florida, Nashville, (then the 7 game win streak happened and he rattled off wins against) Ottawa, Boston, Edmonton, Ottawa, Montreal, Atlanta, and the NY Rangers.

The Anaheim game was the crazy game with 10 Leaf power plays where they scored 5 goals on the PP. Carolina sucked horribly due to injuries early on in the year. Tampa Bay and Florida were both suffering to start out the first half of the season due to injuries (Panthers) and crap goal tending (Lightning).

Montreal was the game where he left for the hospital after the first period to get his second ablation, and yet was still credited with the win after shutting the Habs out for the first 8 shots.

He shut out a Boston Bruins side that was lacking offense all season long. Florida was without David Booth, and Bryan McCabe scored both their goals in a 3-2 loss to the Leafs. Nashville lost due to some atrocious defense, and pulled Pekka Rinne after he let in 3 goals on the first 8 shots he faced… they almost completed a come back late, tying the game at 3 before Phil Kessel won it with a wrist shot.

I could pick apart the 7 game win streak in a similar fashion, I just think that we need to take his first year with a grain of salt and recognize that the number of games Gustavsson won on his own this year was minimal. I’d give him credit for 2 or 3 at most. The Leafs also lost some games that he kept them in close in, so the whole thing balances out, I just think we need to hope for some more consistency from all the players next year if we hope to win more games.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jun 21, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not posting this as any type of statistically valid study

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by mf37 on Jun 21, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

Yes and nobody said that you were… I’m saying the whole exercise doesn’t illustrate much beyond the fact that he had 1 hot streak and some pretty uneven play prior to that.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jun 21, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s weird reading this all in one comment.

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by PPP on Jun 21, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and his pre-Jan 31st save percentage isn't correct either

750 GA on 834 Shots is a .899 save percentage.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jun 21, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

nevermind

you’re quoting the LEAFS stats not Gustavsson’s stats… which I guess I think is misleading with respect to Gustavsson.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jun 21, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you're looking at player changes

why not explore Giguere’s numbers pre-post Leaf last year.

He went from having a .900 SV% and 3.14 GAA with Anaheim to having a .916 SV% and 2.49 GAA with the Leafs.

Following the players/environment logic that would imply the Leafs at the end of the year were superior to the Ducks defensively (last season), which I frankly have a hard time believing… but maybe it makes some sense with Phaneuf and Sjostrom on the team? I personally think it’s a bit of that, and a bit of the fact that Giguere was more comfortable with Allaire as his goalie coach, and with Burke as his GM, and with getting more consistent playing time as a #1/1A starter like he was used to in Anaheim.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jun 21, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Gustavsson was a constant with the Leafs pre and post-Phaneuf.

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by mf37 on Jun 21, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but the Leafs around him weren't...

which sort of screws up the analysis.

When you ship out Ponikarovsky, Stajan, Hagman, Blake, and Stempniak up front, White on D, and Toskala as the other goalie…

then bring in Bozak, Stalberg, Hanson, Caputi, Sjostrom, Irwin, Phaneuf, and Giguere… you’re turning over a 3rd of the team virtually overnight… they really aren’t the same teams.

The point I’m making with Giguere is, based on his numbers with the two teams, it seems like he played better in Toronto than Anaheim, and I’m wondering why you’d say that is.

Gustavsson’s improvement is apparently due to the changes around him… does the same go for Giguere? Do we suddenly give the Leafs porous D a passing grade when Giguere is around?

Toskala’s influence was hurtful obviously, but I think a lot of what we’re observing is some level of synergy of the pieces involved. The reformulated team worked better for Giguere than the old one worked for Toskala… same goes for how it went for Gustavsson. But I think the goalies were part of that.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jun 23, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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