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Pat Burns Snubbed By Hockey Hall of Fame

I started this morning off like I do most others during the week as I checked in with my cousin over gchat. When the topic turned to the afternoon's pending Hall of Fame announcement. While we both hope Doug Gilmour would be inducted we knew it was important that Pat Burns get the nod. We'd both lamented Pat Burns declining health over the past year as he fought his third battle with cancer especially as his physical state began to mirror her late father's. To look at him is to be transported back two years to an extremely difficult time. We agreed that he deserved to be honoured for his achievements while he could share the honour with his family. It's a sentiment that is obviously spread far and wide.

Somehow, some way, the selection committee made an unpardonable mistake. There is no doubt that Pat Burns is a Hall of Fame coach. He is the only coach that has won the Jack Adams three times with three different teams. Think about just how incredible of a coach you have to be to accomplish that feat. He added a Stanley Cup in 2003 in New Jersey as well as 501 wins and over 1000 games coached. He would have added to those totals if his third bout of cancer had not been too much for him. And here's a fact courtesy of Twitter:

Pat Burns didn't coach a single team that he didn't win a Jack Adams or a Stanley Cup with.

- @BillMorran4

Eight years after the Hockey Hall of Fame made the right decision with regard to Roger Neilson when he was in the process of sadly losing his battle with cancer. How could they possibly get it so wrong this year? Needless to say, the reaction has been unequivocal in damning the selections made.

Join me after the jump to see some rage and confusion

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First off, this has nothing to do with the inductions of Angela James and Cammi Granato. It is the Hockey Hall of Fame and those two woman had major impacts on the woman's game and are chosen in a separate category. Congratulations to them. However, the players' category was a mess, that's a whole other topic, but it was the Pat Burns snub that really rankled. I think that what might be more frustrating is make up of the members of the committee. These are respected hockey men and for them to be so tone-deaf is unbelievable.

Perhaps the most bizarre part of the Hall of Fame selection proceedings was the decision in the builder category. The committee voted to ignore Pat Burns, one of the finest coaches of his generation and a man battling cancer, in favor of longtime Detroit executive Jim Devellano and Daryl "Doc" Seaman, one of the founding owners of the Calgary Flames who died in January 2009. Is there not a shred of humanity on the selection committee? How sad will it be if Pat Burns is gone by time the Hall decides to honor him?

 We have all kinds of time for Devellano. But how does a decision like this happen? How do you induct Devellano ahead of Burns or, say, groundbreaking Philadelphia coach Fred Shero? And why is there a nod now for Seaman, whose sphere of influence was limited strictly to Calgary?

- Scott Burnside, ESPN.com

Excellent example of how incredibly flawed the process is for selcting inductees. 

In a phone interview with NHL FanHouse, longtime Hall of Fame selection committee member Bill Torrey acknowledged the outcry of criticism from hockey executives, players and media members who felt Burns was snubbed in a most insensitive fashion.

"For anyone to think that our thoughts were not with Pat Burns is unfair," said Torrey, the former general manager of the New York Islanders dynasty of the early 1980s and currently a governor with the Florida Panthers. "Committee members are not allowed to speak about the process and give specific details on the voting, but I want to make clear that Pat was certainly on our minds."

- Christopher Botta, AOL FanHouse

That is an absolutely laughable remark by Torrey. If Pat Burns is a Hall of Fame coach and you know that he is ill with terminal cancer why would you not put him in now? The NFL process features a reporter making the case for a player in front of the voting committee. Maybe that small change and a bit of common sense could have prevented this debacle.

As for Devellano and Seaman, congratulations, but in the builder category, Pat Burns is a simply inexcusable omission. It is baffling.

It would be baffling even if Burns were not dwindling away due to a terminal case of lung cancer, because he is worthy on merit alone. He won a Stanley Cup, and nobody else has won three coach of the year trophies, much less with three different teams. Only three other coaches have won with even two different teams since the Jack Adams was first awarded in 1973.

But because Burns is dying, it is even worse. He belongs in the Hall, and may not live to see the day. On Tuesday, Seaman’s son Bob accepted the honour for his father. Some day, one of Burns’ children may have to do the same, and it will be a badge of shame on the Hockey Hall of Fame.

- Bruce Arthur, National Post

The point that was missed by those that couldn't wrap their heads around the outrage is that Burns is a Hall of Famer. That's always been true and will never change. Why delay? Why court such outrage?

We can't recall backlash at these levels, spread over several "overlooked" candidates. We advocated Burns' induction, and still do; we also believe that at least two other NHL players (with Nieuwendyk being one of them) should have joined Ciccarelli as Hockey Hall of Fame honorees. 

The selection committee obviously disagreed. Pity its decision, and the reaction, has obscured the worth of this latest Hall of Fame class. 

- Greg Wyshynski, Puck Daddy

No kidding. Twitter lit up with instant reaction and, in a bit of a change, the visceral reactions were not restricted to fans:

Sad, head-scratching, downright pathetic that selection commitee denied Pat Burns entry to Hall of Fame.

- @ChrisBottaNHL

Would love to hear committee member explain how Pat Burns was not elected to the HoF. Stand up.

- @ChrisBottaNHL

No credibility. No heart. Every member of HHOF selection committee who did not vote for Pat Burns should identify himself and explain why.

- @NYP_Brooksie

Pat Burns' record makes him worthy. As does Fred Shero's. But not according to the cabal that does its business in secret.

- @NYP_Brooksie

Miffed Pat Burns didn't get the call for the Hall. Even without his special circumstances Burns was worthy of admission to the Hall of Fame.

- @kausatoday

Not inducting Pat Burns: utter bullshit.

- @bruce_arthur

No Pat Burns for the HOF this year? That's an abomination. Electors should be ashamed of themselves. Absolutely disgusting.

- @Forechecker

Can't believe Pat Burns was left out of HHOF.Knowing he will one day is not the same, it would mean so much to him now to share with family.

- @sens2win

Saddens me to no end that Pat Burns didn't get inducted to the HHF. He had the pre-reqs and the induction couldn't have been more timely.

- @anma81

Every single HHOF member who did not put Pat Burns where he belongs this year should go jump off a cliff. Despicable.

- @nikpanter

What possible reason could the Hockey Hall Of Fame Committee have for not selecting Pat Burns for induction?

- @JayOnrait

Pat Burns belongs in the Hall of Fame NOW!

- @walsha

Still can't believe Pat Burns didn't make it into the Hall this year. 3 Jacks and a Stanley sure doesn't buy much anymore.

- @JeffMarek

Obviously, as a Leafs fan, this snub hits closer to home than the average fan. Pat Burns came to Toronto and put a stake through the Harold Ballard Era. It's a team that Leafs fans uniformly remember fondly and Pat Burns feels the same way. As a final reminder of his greatness, here's his acceptance speech in 1993. God willing, we'll get to see his Hall of Fame infuction speech.

 

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Unforgivable

I would love to hear the reason why these idiots didn’t vote him in this year. No excuse for this to happen.

by RJinSoCal on Jun 22, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Pat Burns was the first real coach the Leafs had since Roger Neilson in the late 70s. First attempt of the organization to shake off the dust and bring in fresh blood. Hope HOF voters feel the shame of not doing what is right.

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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 22, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, I did not know he was looking so rough. This is sad, really. The world seems to be made up of mostly stupid people, these days…

by Leaf in Habland on Jun 22, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

It is simply baffling...

Selecting Burns was a no lose situation. Outside of his family, I am sure that nobody even knew who Daryl Seaman was prior to today (I know my reaction was ‘who in the fuck is that?’). After googling him, I found that his accomplishment was helping to buy a failing expansion team in the southern states, and move it to Canada (guess he was the first one to think of this)….. Congratulations on having a lot of disposable income! Would there be hundreds of thousands of hockey fans calling for the selection committee’s heads had they not selected Daryl Seaman this year? I highly doubt it. Has the committee not been aware of Pat Burns and his accomplishments, and the very vocal and overwhelming support for his induction? Do they live on Baffin Island?

Pierre Gauthier is somewhere breathing a sigh of relief, because someone has followed up his brain cramp with a bigger one, and the Habs fans may stop rioting outside of the Bell center for a while, and start Rioting outside of the Hall of Fame.

by CancerousRocket on Jun 22, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Even though we as fans know he deserves to be in the HHoF, even though his family knows he deserves to be in the HHoF, even fellow coaches and former players know he deserves to be there… stunning, just stunning.

I’ll bet 100 bucks that when Burns heard the news, he smiled and congratulated all of the inductees and was genuinely happy for them. That’s the kind of guy Pat Burns is, and that’s exactly why he SHOULD be in the Hall of Fame. An absolute travesty.

by Tynford on Jun 22, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate to get into this...

but does anyone find it interesting that Doc Seaman is being inducted? Please note that I’m not trying to take anything away from his work in bringing hockey to Calgary or with Hockey Canada, but the Mastercard Centre for Hockey Excellence (where the Leafs practice) also houses offices for Hockey Canada and the HHOF. Recently, the HHOF offices were renamed the “D.K. (Doc) Seaman Hockey Resource Centre”. Now, I could be wrong on this specific case, but I work at a major university in the US. Museums, universities, etc. don’t name buildings or facilities after people without a sizable monetary donation. It bothers me a little to think that this may have played a part in his selection process. Especially at the expense of someone like Pat Burns. Take it for what it’s worth…

by birky on Jun 23, 2010 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

What a terrible thought. Made me shudder.

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by JP Nikota on Jun 23, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

The choice to neglect to induct Pat Burns into the Hall this year almost brings me to tears of sadness and frustration. I’m honestly unsure I want to hear the selection committee’s excuses – because that’s all they would be, excuses.

What an immense failure.

In the Name of the Holy Truculence

by steve_w on Jun 23, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

This frustrates me to no end. Pat Burns should have been in the hockey hall of fame this year based on merit alone and his illness should have made his case even more prominent. Totally inexcusable by the HHoF committee, they should be ashamed of themselves.

Bullshit.

Boo hoo!

by Chris Stoikoff on Jun 23, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Pat Quinn, Scotty Bowman, Lanny Mcdonald, Mike Gartner guys like this are some of the most respected guys in hockey and they’re all on the HOF commitee please tell me they wanted to put Pat in but were outnumbered in voting.

by CamShaft on Jun 23, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

It stuns me that with people like Pat Quinn, Scotty Bowman, John Davidson, Eric Duhatschek, Mike Gartner, Lanny McDonald, Serge Savard, Harry Sinden and Peter Statsny on the comittee that Burns did not get in.
Some amazing players and coaches there who should be well aware of just how incredible it is that Burns won the Jack Adams trophy with all 3 teams he ever coached, and that it should put him in the Hall at the first opportunity.
That somehow he didn’t make it in baffles me.
I don’t care about confidentiality agreements, I need an answer.
I’m buying a box of cigars, some good scotch and showing up at Pat Quinn’s house in West Vancouver.

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by Karina on Jun 23, 2010 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

*high fives*

I shall walk your Shiba while you’re away. Not that you know who I am or anything.

by Tynford on Jun 23, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s OK, if you walk for free, we’re friends!

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by Karina on Jun 23, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can do

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by Tynford on Jun 23, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

If any of these inductee’s had any class they would give up there spot to Pat so he will get in sooner. This could be Ciccarelli’s chance to help that bad rep he had.

by CamShaft on Jun 23, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I don’t think it’s fair to put it on the inductees. This is solely a problem created by the Voters.

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by PPP on Jun 23, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well if it was me i’d do it put it that way, sometimes you have to clean up other peoples messes.

by CamShaft on Jun 23, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t get it. just doesn’t make any sense…

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 23, 2010 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

i’m beyond pissed off about it. utterly confused.

if i were whatshisdink Seaman, I’d show up at the induction ceremony and flat out refuse the nomination.

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 23, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

showing up from the dead, that’s quite the act

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by Karina on Jun 23, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

if I were him.

i’m not dead

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 23, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh that makes so much more sense.

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by Karina on Jun 23, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

in my head it does

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 23, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, pretty unanimous backlash. Have to say I agree. Sad that on a day when HHoF finally honoured women, that they would shit the bed so badly in the players and builders categories. The Burns omission was particularly heartless.

I lost a lot of respect for the Hockey Hall of Fame today.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 23, 2010 1:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Huge amount of bullshit all around today. Absolutely disgusted by this. Maybe they need to expand the Selection Committee and go with something MLB style: 75% and you’re in.

The fact we’re looking towards the most stuck up HOF, tells you everything you need to know about todays fuck-up.

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by Clawson on Jun 23, 2010 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe they need to expand the Selection Committee

Or perhaps… ADD TO THE AMOUNT OF POSSIBLE INDUCTEES? How much could it hurt to add ONE MORE PERSON to the ballot? If Burns gets a posthumous induction next year, I will be fucking livid. It just doesn’t make any sense.

by Tynford on Jun 23, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the off chance that I offended anybody...

I apologize entirely, but Pat Burns does not look like he will survive until next years’ HHoF induction ceremony. I’ve seen it first hand, and I completely empathize with his family. Much love and all thoughts go to them. It is indeed a harrowing time in anyone’s life.

by Tynford on Jun 23, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unlimited Power -- Take thatTony Robbins!

Bad decision lacking basic principles of human decency. The real dark side of hockey’s chummy face? Who knows maybe we are getting a glimpse of how ugly these guys really are … Everyone will disparage this decision because it was plain wrong. What else can you say about it? Time to fix the selection process if there is a way to do that. I am going to hang on to one memory though because it is etched in my mind. That was Pat Burns being restrained from going after Barry Melrose. Ah, those were the days!

by Raja Pakkomielle on Jun 23, 2010 2:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Not to do a complete 180...

But I am. While I love Pat Burns and all he has done for the sport of hockey and Leafdom in general, a guy who has earned the Order of Canada and flew in 82 missions during WWII deserves a hell of a lot of respect and praise. Not to mention how he brought the NHL to Calgary… I don’t know, I’m torn. Seaman didn’t pass away 20 years ago. It was only last year, and similarly to cancer. Now that I have actually read up on the Doc somewhat, it really doesn’t seem that big of a stretch that he was inducted over Burns.

Who would you rather – a decorated war hero with multiple charities to his name , or a decorated hockey hero with multiple charities to his name?

by Tynford on Jun 23, 2010 2:45 AM EDT reply actions  

What does being a war hero have to do with the HOCKEY Hall of Fame? The Order of Canada justly honours his non-hockey contributions.

And I’m not criticizing Seaman’s selection, as I know next to nothing about him. But I honestly don’t see why non-hockey related conduct merits inclusion in the HHOF, as you are suggesting.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 23, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Put him in the Armed Forces hall of fame before Pat Burns. From what I have read about him, he should posthumously be given the keys to the city in Calgary more so than he should be in the HHOF, because he did far more for hockey in CALGARY than the game in general.

by CancerousRocket on Jun 23, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not that Seaman doesn’t deserve it, but, to put it kind of crassly, he’s already dead, he can wait another year. Burns might not be able to wait. The problem really does seem to be the limited number of spots. In a way, I don’t mind this policy because it makes the HHOF more special and exclusive. There are always hard decisions, but this year seems to have really gone off the rails.

by Leaf in Habland on Jun 23, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

If that’s your logic, then please explain how a player with an acknowledged coke problem while he played got in before Gilmour, Nieuwendyk, Oates and Bure

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by clrkaitken on Jun 23, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

...?

Do I also hate puppies and kitties? I wasn’t even talking about Dino Cicareli.

by Tynford on Jun 23, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seaman, from all accounts, is a deserving inductee. He’s actually a perfect example for why the committee should not have waited with Burns.

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by PPP on Jun 23, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

The world is sure a cruel and callous place

but seeing the way everyone here and in the media are responding to this injustice gives me hope there are still a lot of people out there with large hearts.

Screw you, HHOF, in particular those that voted against Pat Burns.

Not even going to touch how ridiculous I thought the player selection category was. I thought men and women could be inducted separately, what gives?

by the cat's meow on Jun 23, 2010 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparently Prehistoric Purple Dog Coke-head was the only player eligible that the selection committee deemed Hall of Fame material.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 23, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another measure of Pat Burns' greatness

How many hockey figures are beloved by Leafs fans AND Habs fans?

Exactly.

by Godd Till on Jun 23, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

AND

Boston fans

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pat

You are in our Hall of Fame.

Love and Respect,

The Fans

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 23, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This

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by steve_w on Jun 23, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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