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Despite not a lot going on right now I think we have some good topics this week. Should Burke make a run at Kovalchuk? What players should you draft with an empty cupboard? Why didn't Roenick punch Mike Milbury? Those topics and more are yours free in the PPP Podcast Podcast Podcast! Musical interludes for this episode:

  • Johnny Cash - The Man Who Couldn't Cry
  • Kanye West's part of "Run this Town"
  • Frank Zappa - Dancin' Fool
  • Spoon - The Mystery Zone
  • Grillionaire - One in a Grillion (Grillionaire is Paul Wall performing as a caricature of himself)
  • The Modern Lovers - Roadrunner

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 23, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

/record scratch

Don’t EVER play Lady of Spain again!

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by PPP on Jun 23, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was really great

"Every day you guys look worse and worse. And today you played like tomorrow." - John Mariucci

by whyevenbother on Jun 23, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Kovulchuk……..my only fear is he turns into Yashin after getting a lifetime deal. But players like Ovechkin and Hossa haven’t become lazy so it might not be that much of a problem. If we can get him for a 6 mil cap hit (less than Phaneuf!!!)…..i’ll build a shrine for Burke.

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by LeafFan1989 on Jun 23, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

and I’ll help.
Kovulchuk in my mind (solely on play, not pay) would be a huge asset for the leafs. We need players like him.

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by whyevenbother on Jun 23, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please get Kovalchuk…. please.

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Jun 23, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

/starts to save money for kovy’s jersey

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by sleza on Jun 23, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I already bought mine… hope it doesn’t end up being a jersey foul….

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by Curt S on Jun 23, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

tell me you’re joking

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole

by leafer1984 on Jun 23, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we don’t get him, it’s your fault. You jinxed it.

by Bower Power on Jun 23, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Intros

We didn’t do one because when we started Chemmy pretended to be me and I pretended to be him calling everyone an asshole but could you guys use one?

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by PPP on Jun 23, 2010 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

well...

considering I had no clue who was even talking, sure. But I’m new around here, so I don’t know if everyone else needs an intro.

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by whyevenbother on Jun 23, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

PPP’s voice sounds like an angels. Chemmy’s voice sounds like he should be on radio.. MF37 doesn’t talk that much…

"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."

by Fergus30 on Jun 23, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed
Chemmy sounds like a morning show host
PPP sounds like he should be reading the rest of the story

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s something about the way Chemmy says, “box of hockey cards…a whole box.” that makes me stupidly happy.

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chemmy has an Ira Glassian quality to his voice.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 23, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the start, I tell the story about Bob Suave, Chemmy talks about Lidstrom and PPP doesn’t talk until the three minute mark.

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

PPP picks his spots

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just like his buddy Suge Knight.

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

him dangling that troll off the balcony by his ankles was good times

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Kovalchuk:

Hell, call up Nazem Kadri, throw him on a line with Kovalchuk. Don’t worry kid, he’ll figure it out.

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Jun 23, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's take a minute

kovalchuk-kadri-kessel

that’s like an epic K line right there.

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by whyevenbother on Jun 23, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Komisarek and Kaberle if he’s not traded. We’ll call it the Special-K line.

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 23, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!

kovalchuck—kadri—kessel
Komi—Kaby

so full of win.

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by whyevenbother on Jun 23, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh, if we dont get kovalchuck we could just throw kulemin there

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by Matt_Roberts on Jun 23, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

do we also sign Khabibulin to play one game just to ice a total K fest?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’d have to spring him from jail first. A la Murdock.

(No way he really serves time for that)

by Bower Power on Jun 23, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

good idea, i hope burke also drafts Krill Kabanov. K’s everywhere.

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by Matt_Roberts on Jun 23, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

we also must retain Kulemin

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the cold open, but I think you guys should identify yourselves somehow, maybe after Lady of Spain.

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by puckurgently on Jun 23, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The cold open is really working well but right afterwards it probably helps.

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by PPP on Jun 23, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ripping on Milbury is incredible. I hate that fuck.

“Now don’t get me wrong, I think it’s funny when pro athletes cry”

Awesome

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by maplestirup on Jun 23, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

“One of those smug TSN bastards”

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by Curt S on Jun 23, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Man this is really good. You guys should do it more often. I liked the high risk – high reward draft pick talk. And you pointed out that the Leafs don’t have a top six prospect pool. Thank you.

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by maplestirup on Jun 23, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

RE: Save v Risky pick

I would go with the risky pick. The Leafs don’t have many good prospects (good in the top 6 forward sense), while we have several players who could be solid 3rd liners (although none would be defensive studs).

If Kabanov does fall to the 2nd round (which he should), then I think Burke should make a play for a pick and draft him.

Also, is it just me, or does it seem like in the minds of GMs out there, there is actually a discrepancy between the 30th pick (a 1st rounder) and the 31st pick (2nd rounder)?

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 23, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Kabanov…

How would Burke go about getting him, because as risky as he seems, I HIGHLY doubt that he’ll stick around till 62. I would think one of the teams with 2-3 first/second round picks would snatch him up.

"Every day you guys look worse and worse. And today you played like tomorrow." - John Mariucci

by whyevenbother on Jun 23, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

On Kabanov

Craig Custance twittered this yesterday:

Asked a scout about Kirill Kabanov today and he said “he’s a full-time job for a sports psychologist.”

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I would take him. If somehow Burke had a second and he was available, I would grab him.
The kid is supposed to be ridiculously talented

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole

by leafer1984 on Jun 23, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

So was Dmitri Vorobiev.

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Difference is one doesnt want to leave Russia and one doesn’t want to stay in Russia

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Equal oppurtunity asshole

by leafer1984 on Jun 23, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

And one is a giant headcase.

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t his dad more of the issue than him?

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by leafer1984 on Jun 23, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Botta called Kabanov a “gong show” and, as I posted above, Custance quoted a scout saying, “he’s a full-time job for a sports psychologist.”

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bah, we have Grabbo he can’t be worse than Grabbo.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 23, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn’t it recently come up that it was mostly his father being a controlling nut job?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if that’s the case, having a father who is a controlling nut job doesn’t just go away if you remove the father.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 23, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait…..what?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant his issues won’t go away.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 23, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Krill can become his own man and tell his dad to stop fucking with his life it sure can

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I’m saying is that may scar him, permanently who knows.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 23, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe possibly, who knows indeed, wouldn;t be the first time a players mental state destroyed a super promising career

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya that’s why I ask that

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Equal oppurtunity asshole

by leafer1984 on Jun 23, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

We will agree to disagree.
Time will tell with Kabanov

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by leafer1984 on Jun 23, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and one has a hart murmur or something and can’t be insured by the NHL

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t know Vorbiev had physiological heart issues.

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember it coming up after the Cherepanov death, heres the MLHS link
http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2009/02/25/newswire-dmitri-vorobiev-has-a-heart-condition/

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does yeah. Post Cherepanov he has an enlarged heart or something. He was banned from the KHL but can play again now but is uninsurable for the NHL.

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by Chemmy on Jun 23, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a hypothetical IF the Leafs snagged a mid round 2nd and he was on the board

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

I kind of figured that, but are there any other ways for Burke to acquire him?

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by whyevenbother on Jun 23, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

would Burke even want to go after him?

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by whyevenbother on Jun 23, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

high risk, high reward
kid was a top 3 pick this time last year

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was talks of him being easily a #1 overall pick

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by leafer1984 on Jun 23, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it was him just behind hall but ahead of Fowler for the most part

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Highest I ever saw him ranked was a conditional #3.

In the fall of 2009, CSS didn’t even rank him as the top prospect in the Q, they had him behind Gormley.

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just remember the chatter of if you want a forward you get Khabanov and if you want a D you take Fowler

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kabanov

Talk about a hard to track prospect. Just look at how Kabanov’s ranking fell:

Oct. 2009 – 4th (Woodlief’s redline report)
Oct. 2009 – drops from 4th to 9th (Central Scouting)
Nov. 2009 – 15th in North American mid-term rankings
Nov. 2009 – 4th (International Scouting Services)
Feb. 2010 – 7th (International Scouting Services)
April 2010 – drops out of top 30 (International Scouting Services)
May 2010 – drops out of top 10 in Woodlief’s redline report
Jun. 2010 – 11th among forwards (Central Scouting)
Jun. 2010 – drops out of top 30 in Woodlief’s redline report
Jun. 2010 – 31st among NA draft eligible players
Jun. 2010 – 43rd on Bob McKenzie’s final draft ranking

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow….

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 23, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

the thing with this...

is his drop in ranking due to his play, or is it due to the stuff outside of hockey?

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by whyevenbother on Jun 23, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another complicating factor: part of it is an injury. I think he broke his wrist.

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the Frank Zappa in there, Zappa rules.

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by Matt_Roberts on Jun 23, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Ryan gets the credit for that one. He picked Kanye, Zappa and Grillionaire.

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He picks all the music.

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by Chemmy on Jun 23, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I nominated the Johnny Cash (“and the earth suffered perpetual drought”) Spoon and Modern Lovers tracks…

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have good taste

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jun 23, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Modern Lovers song seemed particularly well suited.

I’m in love with Massachusetts
And the neon when it’s cold outside
And the highway when it’s late at night
Got the radio on
I’m like the roadrunner

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by mf37 on Jun 23, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

great choice.

‘modern world’ was just on my ipod about 5 minutes ago.

Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.

by daoust on Jun 23, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Decent choices.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jun 23, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

We tag team it. His edit notes usually come with musical suggestions. If I think something else fits the conversation better, I change it.

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by puckurgently on Jun 23, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of distractions and Dion

Maybe the MLSE media types should help him get a grip on his social life… following up on Sean Avery’s relationships won’t work.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jun 23, 2010 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Great podcast as usual. I like the proposed Kovalchuk contract with the 5.25/year cap hit — even if it’s only a pipe dream.

by Jo4nny on Jun 23, 2010 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Instead of refusing to do the long-dated, front-loaded contracts

that Burke supposedly believes to be a loophole in the CBA because it goes against the “spirit” of the agreement, I’d much rather him prove a point by signing the most rediculously long, take-him-until-the-age-Gordie-Howe-played contract with the $5.25M cap hit.

Then we get a superstar, and you get your point across Burkey. Win-win. Also Leafs win, so Win-Win-Win.

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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 24, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

"This is better than watching Reading Rainbow."

Excellent. Well played with the Jeopardy music.

Daniel Bard: throwing baseballs really fucking quickly since 2009.

by TheOtherAndrew on Jun 24, 2010 3:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I sort of expect my loser co-hosts to talk while I crunch numbers but PPP was reading Tada! Magazine or something the whole time.

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by Chemmy on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL he’s doing maths!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I presume that all the dead air will be ID’d and cut out when I do the first edit. Ryan obviously had a way better idea.

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by mf37 on Jun 24, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree. My thoughts exactly. Plus, I was laughing at the idea of Chemmy using his abacus.

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by PPP on Jun 24, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reading Rainbow is pretty awesome though. Or at least was 15 years ago.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 24, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

da da DA!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 24, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a video award show in Europe where some guy won and Kanye ran up there saying his video was better and how he spent so much more money on it than the other guy =D

Good segment =)

by Theodles on Jun 24, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

That was it!

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by PPP on Jun 24, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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