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What was the Greatest Draft in NHL History?

Hopefully one of these players gets drafted second and becomes the new Alex Daigle.

One of the reasons why I was ok with the trade for Phil Kessel (giving up two 1st round picks and a 2nd) at the time it was made was that all the professionals were saying that this year would be a weak draft. Outside of the big two of Hall and Seguin, there are some other good players but nobody that screams out future Hall of Famer. (Insert Dino Ciccarelli joke here) Everyone always praises the 2003 Draft as being one for the ages with 29 out of the 30 players selected in the first round going on to play in the NHL. (Sucks for you Hugh Jessiman)

All this got me thinking: what was the greatest draft in NHL history? How could such a statement be quantified? There are so many stats and intangibles that go in to calling someone a great hockey player let alone an entire draft class. Therefore I decided that simple was the best way to go and I decided to rank drafts by overall per game statistics of those players that reached the NHL.  Now there is further analysis to be done in terms of what percentage of players from a specific draft even went on to play in the NHL and so forth but I haven't the time and frankly I feel that by looking at how well the players from those drafts did in the NHL is a pretty good criterion for judging their draft year as a whole.

The way I set about doing this was to download data from www.hockeydb.com which thankfully lets you sort by draft year and gives you all the meaningful stats; games played, goals, assists, points, and PIM.  I then decided to only cover the NHL Amateur and Entry drafts of the NHL and not the WHA; no expansion drafts, no supplemental drafts. From there it was a lot of Excel work to get the data into a manageable format.  I decided to remove goalies from this study because they would skew the per game statistics as the rarely score points. So for this study it's just skaters that are covered.

Without further ado here are the results of my study:

NHL Draft Statistics  (Individual player data per draft year)

NHL Draft Statistics Summary  (Sortable spreadsheet of draft year totals)

Discussion after the jump.

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So which draft was the greatest?

After going over all the number and taking things into consideration like draft size, years available to the NHL, total games played, and draft depth; to me it looks like 1979 was the best draft ever. Sure it doesn't rank #1 in goals per game, assists per game, or points per game, but take a look at the overall number of games played at the pace at which points were put up!

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47,678 total games played (1st overall) and 0.617 points per game (29,419 total). That's some ridiculous production, but it makes sense when you look at who was drafted that year: Mark Messier, Ray Bourque, Mike Gartner, Glenn Anderson, Dale Hunter, Michel Goulet, Brian Propp, Neal Broten, Rick Vaive, Guy Carbonneau, Kevin Lowe, the list goes on and on.  Just absolutely stacked with talent.

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Well that answers the question of which draft year was "The Greatest" but there is a lot more to be learned from all this data.  Such as, which year had the most truculent players? Well that'd be 1982 who averaged 1.299 PIM per game led by Pat Verbeek, Scott Stevens, Ken Daneyko, and ultra goon Ulf Samuelsson; all with over 2,400 career penalty minutes. Though 1983 is nipping at their heels with more total PIM led by Bob "Got my blood punched out" Probert and his 3,300 career PIM, good for 5th all-time. 

Also, what about trends over the year? Surely players aren't putting up 100 points season with regularity like they once were, and they aren't.  The graph below shows the PPG trend for each draft year. 

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(Trendline represents a 3rd order polynomial)

As you can see, overall scoring has significantly decreased over time.  This is probably best attributed to the fact that NHL goalies are far better than they once were and have been improving over time for quite awhile.

The increase in scoring at the very end (2004 onward) can be attributed to the small number of players from those drafts that have so far made it to the NHL and the fact that those players who have made it to the NHL represent the best of their class (ie. Alex Ovechkin, Sidney Crosby, John Tavares, Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane). Though the upswing for 2003 is legitimate as those players have fully populated the NHL to the extent that they will produce and are producing at a great pace. Definitely the best draft class of the 2000s thusfar.

Ok, so that's what scoring over time has been like but what about truculence? I'm glad you asked:

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(Trendline represents a 3rd order polynomial)

Look no further for proof of the wimpification of hockey. Kids just aren't as mean as they once were. It's a shame really.

Well that's all I've got. Feel free to sort through the documents and add your own observations.

SkinnyFish out.

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The 2003 draft was fuckin incredible

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by leafer1984 on Jun 25, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed, just a disgusting amount of talent there

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 25, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Richards at 24th blows my head-brain.

by doggit on Jun 25, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Corry Perry at 28th too

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 25, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Parise at 17th

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by leafer1984 on Jun 25, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Pavelski in the 7th, Byfuglien in the 8th, Moulson in the 9th.

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 25, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

halak in the 9th

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 25, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

What if?

The 2003 draft had ended after 7 rounds…

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by doggit on Jun 25, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

There would either have been a lot less of those top players in the NHL, or some really smart team with the ability to sign undrafted UFA’s would have gotten a hold of them.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 25, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 25, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weber got drafted 49th overall. That is mind blowing.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 25, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

its really more mind blowing that that wasn’t really a “Major Steal” like it would have been in EVERY OTHER DRAFT.

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 25, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know the MAF thing “worked” in Pittsburgh, but I can’t help but notice there are about 8 players in the first round that I’d prefer to have on my roster from 03.

by doggit on Jun 25, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drafting a goalie high is a poor choice.

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by Chemmy on Jun 25, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

extremely poor.

b/w 1994 and 2005, 33.3% of goalies drafted in the first round have gone on to play 200+ games. the next best round for goalie draft success is the 9th round, at 15.2%. the worst round is the 3rd round, with 2.9% (1 of 16). so you could say that a goalie drafted in the first round has a better chance of success than in other rounds.

but compared to all other positions, 33.3% is pretty poor. inclusive of all positions, 57.2% of players drafted in the first round in the same time period went on to play 200+ games. if you exclude goalies, that number is 59%. so a goalie is a little more than half as likely as any other position drafted in the first round to play 200+ games.

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by daoust on Jun 25, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brian Burke's solution?

Don’t draft any goalies! Sign them all from Europe!

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by JP Nikota on Jun 25, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than spending a draft pick on a bust.

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by Chemmy on Jun 25, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

There wasn’t really any sarcasm in there.

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by JP Nikota on Jun 25, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

SAME TO YOU

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by Chemmy on Jun 25, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

/Surprised.

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by JP Nikota on Jun 25, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’d be doing the exact same thing. let other suckers waste a pick on a goalie.

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by daoust on Jun 25, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm kind of curious...

What are the odds of a goaltender being drafted and making it into the NHL, across all draft rounds, percentage wise? Obviously there are fewer spots for a goalie to fill on a roster so the numbers won’t be as high as other positions on a team, but if we were to look at it based on the number of goaltenders entering the draft and reaching an “average” amount of NHL games we could find out a “failure” rate for goaltenders in general. It would be an interesting number to see.

I also would be curious to compare that number to the number of goaltenders in the NHL, and the ones that produce average or better than average save percentages. Then look to see if there is actually a deficit of quality goaltending present or available to teams.

The overall question I’m looking at is, are teams forced to play a Toskala-esque goaltender (or a statistical outlier on the wrong end of the bell curve) because there are a lack of options present in the NHL? Also, with retirements and a possibly high failure rate of draft entrees, could we possibly foresee a quality goaltending drought in the near future, or would we merely be able to conclude that Toskala type goaltenders get lucky with contracts now and again?

by JoshuaDPreston on Jun 25, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at Derek Zona’s post I linked to “After the First Round”, below.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 25, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just had SkinnyFish make me a spreadsheet of where in the draft all 60 starter and backups in the NHL came from.

Averaged out to be about a 5th round pick.

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by Chemmy on Jun 25, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2010/6/21/1527605/also-not-so-hot-at-drafting

from 94-2005, 130 goalies were drafted. 34 (16.1%) went on to play more than 200 games. 39.5% played at least one game in the NHL.

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by daoust on Jun 25, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its been statistically proven that it doesn’t matter when you draft a goalie, just how many you draft.

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 25, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

scatter gun theory!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 25, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

TSN mock draft has Jack Campbell at #6 (going to Tampa).

Where should he be drafted instead?

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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 25, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

That one “senior scout” had him at number 2. But I suppose Pro Scouts aren’t burdened by advanced stats and analysis.

by doggit on Jun 25, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not even advanced stats in the Copper & Blue piece—just looking at bust rates.

If I were Burke I’d look at every draft for the past 20 years and, if possible, assign values to various attributes: “size”, “speed”, “hockey IQ”, “character”, “puck skill”, “stats”, etc. Then see which ones correlates to actual success in the NHL.

That’s not advanced stats, that’s just keeping track. I wonder how many teams do this?

by The '67 Sound on Jun 25, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

draft the small guy who scores a lot

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 25, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s my one contribution from my extremely limited knowledge. But I bet there are lots of trends to be plucked from the data for teams willing to put in the time and effort.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 25, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed, the draft is just a gigantic crap shoot though, frankly I’d be surprised if there was any definite coloration to player types and bust potential, out side of some “sure fire” picks most kids probably just have about the same chance of busting

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 25, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

May be true. But if I were a GM I’d like to know for sure.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 25, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poor Junior A.

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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 25, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Atlanta should definitely consider him.

by Hanzi on Jun 25, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d probably go to 14. Staal, Horton, Vanek, Suter, Phaneuf, Carter, Brown, Seabrook, Parise, Getzlaf, Burns, Richards, Kesler, Perry. Not to mention the guys in later rounds.

Though I’m probably unfairly punishing Fleury for that outrageous contract that Pittsburgh gave him.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 25, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I likely should have said “at least 8”.

by doggit on Jun 25, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

ridiculous. i just checked…b/w 98 and 06, 53% of 1st round picks went on to play in 200+ games. 2003…. 77%. crazy.

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by daoust on Jun 25, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine what the stats for 1979 would look like if Wayne Gretzky had been considered draft eligible.

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by mf37 on Jun 25, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesus

They jump up to 0.656 ppg

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 25, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

over 49,165 total games played for a total of 32,276 points.

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 25, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you have to add up individual player numbers?

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by JP Nikota on Jun 25, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. The first spreadsheet linked has the totals for every draft year on individual sheets. Have a look, it’s great to just browse the names and numbers.

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 25, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's awesome.

Also somewhat insane, but it sounds like something I’d do. Nice work!

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by JP Nikota on Jun 25, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Under normal rules, he wouldn’t have been eligible till 1980. In 1979, it was still restricted to players aged 20 and up. (By that standard, his draft year was actually 1981, by which time he’d already won his first Art Ross.)

In 1980, that age limit was dropped to 18.

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by 1967ers on Jun 25, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasn’t that because the WHA had a lower draft age and were stealing all the good players?

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 25, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh, the more you know…

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by mf37 on Jun 25, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a draft I don't want to see again

Luca Cereda, Peter Reynolds, Mirko Murovic, Jonathan Zion, Vaclav Zavoral, Jan Sochor, Vladimir Kulikov, Pierre Hedin, Peter Metcalf. Total games played in NHL: 3. Total points: 1.

That’s Toronto’s first 9 picks in 1999, the worst draft ever. I don’t know if we blame Ken Dryden or Pat Quinn for that bunch of stinkers because they transitioned in 1999, but it kinda smells like Dryden.

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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jun 25, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

in all fairness

That draft was awful other than the Sedins

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by leafer1984 on Jun 25, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It truly was. The next best players taken were Henirk Zetterberg (in the 7th) Martin Havlat, Mike Comrie, Tim Connolly, and Ryan Malone.

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 25, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

when COmrie, Connolly and Malone are the 5th, 6th and 7th best players taken, you knwo its bad

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by leafer1984 on Jun 25, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

kaberle is 12th overall in pts from that draft class.

frantisek kaberle.

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by daoust on Jun 25, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAHHAHAHHAAHHAHHHHAHHHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAAHHAHHAHHAHAH

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 25, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously.

patrick stefan not far behind at 13th. this must be the most miserable ‘top 20’ of the last 20 draft classes…

Pts total drafted
Henrik Sedin 572 3
Daniel Sedin 547 2
Henrik Zetterberg 475 210
Martin Havlat 450 26
Mike Comrie 359 91
Tim Connolly 353 5
Martin Erat 352 191
Radim Vrbata 275 212
Ryan Malone 261 115
Niklas Hagman 251 70
Taylor Pyatt 214 8
Frantisek Kaberle 193 76
Patrik Stefan 188 1
Niclas Havelid 171 83
Chris Kelly 153 94
Oleg Saprykin 137 11
Nick Boynton 136 9
Jordan Leopold 135 44
Tom Kostopoulos 126 204
Branko Radivojevic 120 93

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by daoust on Jun 25, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

1998 was a gold mine comparitively. 2 leafs in the top 20 too!

Pts total drafted
Vincent Lecavalier 739 1
Brad Richards 639 64
Scott Gomez 637 27
Alex Tanguay 617 12
Pavel Datsyuk 592 171
Simon Gagne 524 22
Mike Ribeiro 426 45
David Legwand 407 2
Shawn Horcoff 374 99
Nik Antropov 371 10
Andrei Markov 363 162
Brian Gionta 358 82
Erik Cole 338 71
Mike Fisher 324 44
Jaro Spacek 324 117
Jonathan Cheechoo 305 29
Michael Ryder 293 216
Ales Kotalik 278 164
Alexei Ponikarovsky 266 87
Brad Stuart 264 3

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by daoust on Jun 25, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only name I recognize is Luca’s :D

by Theodles on Jun 25, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

luca was more of a hard luck pick case than a bad scouting pick

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 25, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Hedin was a keeper at first…

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by Matt_Roberts on Jun 25, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuhr was also in that class, if fact the oilers well umm, raked. thank barry fraser for that. woohoo Vaive!

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