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by SkinnyFish on Jul 12, 2010 7:01 AM EDT
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Finally, the World Cup is over and done with. Just like we do the Monday after the Super Bowl, we can all stop pretending to be interested in the game of football and get back to obsessing over a real sport; hockey. I'll admit that I was one of the sheeple who were drawn towards the World Cup with its glitz, glamour, vuvuzelas, and one name Brazilian players. I analyzed matchups, half assedly partook in a World Cup games prediction league, and watched games as if I knew what was going on. Oh how naive I was.
People say that the games of hockey and soccer are very similar; how very wrong they are. Soccer is some straight up boring shit. Case in point, on their way to World Cup glory, Spain won every elimination match by a score of 1-0. And in all of those game, their earliest goal came at the 63rd minute mark. Halfback passes to wing, passes to center, back to wing, back to center. Center holds it, holds it, holds it..... Sigh.
What makes hockey so great when compared to every other sport out there is the near nonstop action. Many games experience nearly 10 minutes of nonstop play; no whistles, no phantom fouls, no intentionally playing the ball out of bounds. Just fast passed action, and it's awesome.
Some complain about the fact that the NHL has the longest season of any of the major sports. Complain? About their being hockey to watch for 9 months out of the year? Are you mental? Better question, is it September yet?
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they made the mistake of dividing his weight by his height, not his waistline
by KerryFraser on Jul 12, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Hockey has ruined me for soccer. I should like soccer. I played it as a kid. My dad’s English and played till he was 50. I enjoy the tactical element to it and the lack of scoring doesn’t bother me.
But I can’t get past the diving.
I came away from that final thinking “The Spanish are a bunch of p***ies”. The rolling around from a little tap on the shin guards, the flopping—arms spread wide is a dead giveway, why don’t the refs know this?—after not even being touched, the calculated decision to go down when slightly impeded near the box instead of actually driving for a legitimate scoring chance, I just can’t take it. Mike Ribeiro and Sean Avery would be hailed for their Terminator-like indifference to physical harm in this sport.
And yet the Globe’s article this morning is all whining about the Dutch “thuggishness”. So playing smothering defence is “thuggishness”? The only really dubious play I saw was that cleat to the chest, and even there the biggest risk was a widdle boo-boo. He couldn’t have injured the guy. Hockey players spit teeth and play with broken bones. Nut up, soccer players of the world.
I guess to the educated soccer world the Dutch are thugs. All I know is that when Robbens was pulled from behind on a partial breakaway he didn’t collapse like the feigned death throes of an actress on Broadway, he drove through it, made a nice move away from the defender and tried to score a goal before being stymied on a nice play by the Spanish keeper.
And for all the fawning over the Spanish “stylish”, “attacking” style, I saw a team that preferred to play keepaway than actually attack the net until they were almost facing penalties (another utterly unacceptable element of World Cup Soccer to me).
Call me a heathen I guess but I’ll take hockey 100 days out of 100.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 8:34 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This and all the bad refereeing. Made me leave that game with a bad taste in my mouth. I couldn’t just say, “Oh the Dutch got outplayed”. No. Spain was diving all over the place and the ref was making critical mistakes including not awarding an obvious corner kick to the Dutch in the play before the Spain goal.
Then again someone got kicked in the chest. That was pretty awesome in slow motion.
Yeah, I thought the red card was a joke too. Maybe a foul? But a second yellow? Give me a break.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that kick to chest was pretty impressive in slow motion. And I imagine it hurt a bit more than the rest of the so-called ‘fouls’
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I'll just stick this here...
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Jul 12, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
DESTROYED!
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DRAGON KICK
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
can’t stop smiling about this
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec’ed! I hadn’t seen it yet. Off to Youtube to watch it in real time!
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
that’s pretty darned dirty
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
he didn’t get a red card for that?
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he got a yellow. As far as I could tell, the Ref simply didn’t see the whole thing. If he had, it would’ve definitely been a red.
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Jul 12, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
well that’s…. dammit
I only saw most of the second half through to the end, but what I saw… the Spaniards deserved to win. And I hated it.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
damned dirty dutch
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree. I don’t think there was any attempt to play the ball. I don’t think he ever looked at it.
"My country is the world, my religion to do good" - Thomas Paine
that’s a pretty pathetic attempt to play the ball even if he was trying to play it.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
See, that’s where I think the .gif falls short. If I remember right (and I may not), the last second before is him tracking the ball in the air. Then he looks down, then he kicks where he expects the ball to be…and hits someone in the chest. Didn’t cause any serious damage, but it was reckless. Gets a warning, everyone moves on.
Got a hell of an “ohhhh!” in the bar I was at, though.
Remember that commercial with guys getting kicked in the nuts playing soccer and it showed bars everywhere with guys wincing? I forget what brand of beer it was for. That’s what that reminded me of.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
I’m not a soccer fan at all, all told I probably watched 20 minutes of the World Cup. Like you said, I can get past the low scoring and “boring” elements but not the diving. I understand the “everyone does it” argument, and that embellishment happens in all sports, but like you said some players give up trying to make a play and just dive instead. I’ve seen hockey players score goals on their asses after being dragged down from behind, at least try and make a play.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Perfect example was Robben’s last run in the game yesterday. He was being clutch from behind by Puyol but through superhuman effort he stayed up, but ultimately lost the ball to the goalie. Had he gone down, penalty kick.
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That’s the frustrating part, if they play dirty, it benefits them. The reward is too valuable to pass up.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
FIFA should be suspending guys for diving after matches.
It’s too tough for the official to catch all of these infractions as they occur. It’s much easier to detect a dive on replay. I’d like to ese FIFA start handing out suspensions for guys that dive and to have these suspensions escalate as a player incurs more of them.
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Yeah, that’s the only way to deal with it. I’d go even further and for the most egregious instances (like that Ivory Coast dude who got Kaka sent off by pretending he’d been shot to the face when Kaka just warded him off with a forearm to the chest) the team should have to play a man down the entire next match. That would stop the nonsense pretty quick.
But the problem is, as I see it, everyone in the world is criticizing the Dutch today, not the Spaniards. I can’t say they’re all wrong—I can just concede that the toughness of hockey has ruined soccer for me.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Anywho, let’s take all soccer talk to the CC.
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Good point. Sorry, I couldn’t resist given your headline.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
That was the play I was referring to, but I wouldn’t call it superhuman effort. I’d just call it regular effort. But in soccer it was astonishing that he didn’t dive (I gather he has a reputation for it too).
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Soccer: just like hockey, only at 1/20th the speed.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Not familiar with Arjen Robben, are you?
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
The boy can motor.
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I figure he’s the Marian Gaborik of soccer.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Marian….sigh….
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Just a sweeping generalization. No offense to the players with pace, but you have to admit it’s f’ing slow when they’re hanging out at midfield. Skinny’s Simpsons ref in the caption sums it up nicely.
I truly feel like I can watch a 3 minute hilight package of a soccer match and not have missed anything of note.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell when TSN aired just the PICTURES of the game I could follow along.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I must have watched a different game. The Dutch played that game with the specific intention of kicking the Spanish off the park. They’re lucky they didn’t have three players sent off. De Jong should have walked after he kicked Xabi Alonso in the chest. Van Bommel made half a dozen fouls worthy of a yellow card after he was booked and Heitinga deserved to be sent off.
That not playing smothering defence. That’s being a bunch of dirty bastards and I have no sympathy for them. The Spanish went out to play football. The Dutch didn’t.
As for holding up Arjen Robben as a paragon of fair play… Well, that’s just stupid. The number of times I’ve seen him fall over after minimal contatct is ridiculous.
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this is true, he does dive, he just seems to not pick the best times to dive… the instance Skinnyfish wrote about above would’ve been a decent time to try it… other times I have no idea what he’s thinking.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
No, we watched different games, we just have different perspectives. I’m not saying mine is right; in fact, I’m suggesting mine is wrong. But I can’t change it. I appreciate good physical play but understand that’s not acceptable in soccer.
And I wasn’t holding up Robben as a paragon of fair play, I was just pointing to that one example. No need to call me stupid.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
My hat’s off to you, ‘67, for writing everything I would have said. If I was deJong on that play, I would’ve crushed his ribs to ensure I got full value for my yellow card. Thugs? There is no other way to defeat a team that cheats to win except take the game to them and make them pay. Germany could’ve and should’ve done the same thing to make the final- which would have made a hugely better final. Anyone notice that Spain didn’t muster up any real offence until they reached their real goal, which is to get that sucker of a ref to red-card a Netherlands player?
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by kidkawartha on Jul 12, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It just pointed out to me how out of touch I am that virtually everyone around the world thought “The horror, he cleated him, eject him!” and I thought “Stop whining, it’s just a boot to the chest, it’s not like an elbow to the head or something”.
Anything that can be fixed with a bandaid just ain’t that big a deal to me.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kicking someone in the chest is an offence analogous with spearing in hockey.
"My country is the world, my religion to do good" - Thomas Paine
I understand that’s the anology, that just highlights to me why I prefer hockey. A cleat to the chest hurts, but there’s no lasting damage. You don’t even really lose your wind.
I’m not disagreeing with you at all, just confessing what it means about me.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I also imagine this is why soccer players when fouled, even when not embellishing (this almost never happens), roll around for about 10 seconds and are then perfectly fine.
Of course, a hockey player would just say “Walk it off you wuss, stop crying about it”
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indeed, falling down to draw a card is one thing
rolling around like you got stabbed with a steak knife is another
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
I’m not disagreeing with you at all, just confessing what it means about me.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
To their credit, though, he didn’t get a red. He got a yellow. In this instance (where he’s not missing the next game), it’s effectively a warning, which is probably along the right lines (imo).
I agree with you; most of the world thinks it should unquestionably have been red.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You've never been kicked, have you...
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by leafsfan4life94 on Jul 12, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, yeah actually. Played goalie which is probably most dangerous position in soccer.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
No, really, none of the assorted cards handed out to Dutch players last night were anything other than fully deserved. Why would the Spanish go out of their way to try to get Dutch players sent off when the Dutch themselves were hell-bent on finishing with fewer than 11 men on the pitch? The only, only surprising thing was that one one player was sent off.
The referee was just poor enough to give the Dutch an opportunity to whine about things that they, by rights, have no reason to complain about. They were repeatedly given the benefit of a doubt that shouldn’t have been there. They were shockingly cynical and had no interest in competing with Spain on Spain’s terms. They couldn’t compete with Spain by playing football, so they tried to kick them off the park instead.
It would have been a travesty had Holland won.
"My country is the world, my religion to do good" - Thomas Paine
It would have been a travesty had Holland won.
I disagree with this, but I can’t really argue with the rest of it.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
had no interest in competing with Spain on Spain’s terms.
Well no shit, the whole point of the game is to stop the other team from being able to play their game.
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Ha ha
had no interest in competing with Spain on Spain’s terms. They couldn’t compete with Spain by playing football, so they tried to kick them off the park instead.
Also, this is pretty much the way Burke is trying to build our hockey team.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Spain bored me this tournament so I kinda enjoyed watching them get kicked around.
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It’s hard to score lots of goals when every team you play again lines up sits deep with 4 men on the 18 yard line and then 4 more 10 yards in front of them.
Spain controlled games incredibly well, they’re tremendous defensively. Technically, they’re as good as any national team I’ve ever seen.
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Their ball control was unreal. I couldn’t believe how they dominated posession against the Germans.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Mueller :(
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Playing hard is different from playing dirty.
Holland were the latter.
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Seems like a really fine line when it comes to soccer.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It always is.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Holland were the former. Embellishment helped it look like the latter. I didn’t see anything like errant fists flying into faces, or major jersey hauling – stuff that’s really “oh, that’s dirty”. Football is meant to be a physical game, especially at the top level of competition.
There’s a world of difference between the way the Dutch played Brazil and the way they played Spain.
"My country is the world, my religion to do good" - Thomas Paine
I’d love to know where you think the Dutch were especially “dirty” against Spain. Tensions and energy were high, sure, but – to me – diving is a lot dirtier than shoving each other around before a corner kick (for example), so I just can’t feel too sympathetic for Spain.
I said no, no way at all. I said no, not because I hate this style – I said no because I thought that my country wouldn’t dare to and would never renounce their style. I said no because, without having great players like those of the past, the team has its own style.
I was wrong. Of course I’m not hanging all 11 of them by the same rope, but almost. They didn’t want the ball.
And regrettably, sadly, they played very dirty. So much so that they should have been down to nine immediately, then they made two [such] ugly and hard tackles that even I felt the damage.
It hurts me that I was wrong in my disagreement that instead Holland chose an ugly path to aim for the title.
This ugly, vulgar, hard, hermetic, hardly eye-catching, hardly football style, yes it served the Dutch to unsettle Spain. If with this they got satisfaction, fine, but they ended up losing. They were playing anti-football.
If Johan Cruyff agrees with me, then I must be right.
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The only legitimately “dirty” play I can think of from Holland was the double-sandwich-slide-tackle, which was completely unnecessary.
But really, how many players did Spain take off because of injury? Not Alonso – who (apparently) got foot-murdered in the chest – left the game. The only thing I’m convinced is that the Spaniards deserve an Oscar next to their Cup.
…had no interest in competing with Spain on Spain’s terms.
They entertained Spain’s “everyone stay 5 feet away from everyone else” terms, but decided that no, that was dumb.
I must confess, having heard so much about Spain’s vaunted passing game, I was amazed at how easily Holland broke it up even without fouling. They just got in the lanes and challenged.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Soccer is dead to us now
Anyone hear any reports out of the rookie camp? Are there any Gilbert Perreaults there?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions
nope, but I hear there is a Vic Hadfield and a Jean Ratelle
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Phew.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
You got somethin’ against Rod Gilbert?
by not norm ullman on Jul 12, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
no phantom fouls
Like when a player snaps his head back trying to draw a high-sticking penalty?
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Or grabs a stick and falls over and the ref calls hooking?
Or jumps over a stick and draws a tripping call?
Or snaps his head back and draws roughing?
Just because hockey players are less retarded in their dives doesn’t mean they don’t dive.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 9:39 AM EDT reply actions
that’s your solution to everything
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont want peanut butter ginger dog biscuits
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
boom roasted!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I won't miss the diving
But the World Cup has prepared me for watching whatever teams have Mike Modano and Sean Avery this upcoming season.
Used to be the stars had both!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
New York Islanders Cap Space
Seriously, what are the Isles going to do with all that cap space?
I believe the Salary Floor for the upcoming season is $43.4M ($16M below the upcoming salary cap of $59.4M)
As per capgeek, they have 20 players signed, current payroll of $35.7M (7.7M below cap floor), Matt Moulson and Rob Schremp as RFAs yet to be signed, and a bunch of RFAs and UFAs that could be brought back. But even after those 2 signings, they still probably need to add 4-5M at LEAST to hit the floor.
Brenden Witt was demoted to the AHL last year but has a $3M salary, so bringing him back up could help. But still, that is a rediculous amount of cap space. No wonder they “wanted” to be in on Kovalchuk… even though that was probably just hype & speculation rather than a legit chance of landing him.
Isles seem to have this same situation every year. Thank God we don’t follow a team that has to struggle to reach the cap floor.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
yet they were still better than us……SAD. Although i’d like to see what any team good do with D.S. in goal.
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 12, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
yet they were still better than us
There are no 2 ways around it – it was a pathetic season.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
The Islanders as a team are a mess, but their cap structure and season finishes are better than ours. It’s probably better to have a low paid team that plays piss-poor than to have a team in the top 8 or so in salary and also play piss-poor. More cap flexability and more realistic expectations.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I could see that….they need d-men and cap, we can unload
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 12, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I still feel like there are a 100 different better ways to reach the floor. Like say, signing a couple of the remaining UFA 2-3rd liners to $2M contracts and demoting current roster players with 2-way contracts.
Although it is probably hard to lure UFAs to the freakin’ Islanders.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Although it is probably hard to lure UFAs to the freakin’ Islanders.
If I didn’t have a chance to play for a winner, I would definitely go to the highest bidder on a short-term contract.
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Afinigenov stylez.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
He signed a one-year deal to play with Ilya Kovalchuk.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
It worked, his numbers looked much better. I hope GMs realize that this is a big part of the reason before shelling out $3M+
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Seeing as the Bruins are already cap-screwed, I’m assuming it won’t be them signing him.
So I hope he gets a 4m+ deal with montreal
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
This is why we like you around here.
Enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
There really is little that unifies the northeast like hating on Montreal.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Just so long as Tyler Seguin doesn’t score 3 PPG against the Leafs.
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We all know it's going to happen anyway.
I’d be happy enough if Kessel can get over this not-scoring-on-his-old-team BS.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
hey, he got one assist last year
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh then nevermind, he’s fine.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
He and Jared Knight were apparently lighting it up in scrimmages in development camp.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I think if Stalberg proved anything last season, it’s that nothing matters until you get to the regular season.
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I’m pretty sure Knight will be back in London this year.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m mad you guys picked Knight… he was one I was really hoping we could trade a 2nd rounder for to grab, especially with prior chemistry with Kadri… although apparently chemistry in junior is a highly overrated tool for evaluating NHL chemistry.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
MWAHAHAHA
lol
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
We’ve tried this before, with 3 first rounders.
Ya...
that’s sort of where I was going with this:
although apparently chemistry in junior is a highly overrated tool for evaluating NHL chemistry.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
todd warriner and corey stillman
were DYNAMITE in junior. Seriously. Reading old draft previews of those two from their draft year (1991 i think) is hilarious.
We all know what happened to Todd Warriner
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
typically, only the most mercenary of money-grubbers signed UFA to Isles (see: Witt, Brendon; Sutton, Andy; Guerin, Bill) because they had no chance of winning anything except the annual “Most Rats in the Arena” competition.
But with some of the young talent they have some UFAs will eventually want to sign there with thoughts of potentially winning something … someday.
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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 12, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
they’d probably rather have players who have high cap hit but low actual salary… not sure how many are out there, but we have none left on the Leafs.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Sheldon Souray’s probably a good bet for them. Not only does he make a million more than his cap hit and would hit the floor with one player, he’ll get injured quickly enough and then they wouldn’t have to actually pay his salary.
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yeah, but they coulda had him for free when he got waived, so who knows
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I still have no idea why they didn’t pick him up. It would’ve been suitable punishment for Souray’s whining – oh, you don’t want to play in Edmonton? HOPE YOU ENJOY THE ISLANDERS
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if there are penalties for not reaching the floor, like there are for going over the cap?
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
so with more rumors floating around, what are you guys hearing in Toronto about a Savard-Kaberle trade?
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions
Same shit as always, nothing of substance.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Im hearing its immenent. Same here?
I heard he may be placed on waivers as well
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
you need to stop reading hockey buzz
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Ive never been there
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
from where are you hearing this?
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 12, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Boston Globe
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
link it
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I just found that. That’s all just the writer’s speculation. He sources nobody and is just grasping at straws. Chiarelli would be labeled a retard for the rest of his life were he to waive Savard.
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I already have him labeled that for considering it.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure he’s not; only the author of this article is considering it because he’s a moron.
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yeah….
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah...
and you’re using it as source data for your statement that you “hear he might be waived”
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 12, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I just figured id mention it
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand how trading for Kaberle would solve Boston’s cap problems. Kaberle has a HIGHER cap hit than Savard.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly……..
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 12, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
thank you! Everyone seems all excited by this possible deal, but Im like HELL NO!
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I stopped being excited when it stopped seeming logical for either team.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
thank you!
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
who in Boston is excited with this trade?….you take off your no. 1 center for a soft d-man
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 12, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, for one SCOC has this hate thing with Savard, as do a few others…
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m gonna go ahead and disagree with you there.
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you want to go see?
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
No, she’s right. SCoC does indeed have an irrational hate going on for Savard, and it’s readily document-able.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
And makes zero sense
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Your Boston media is doing the same thing it did to Kessel… as soon as there is a hint of a necessary or upcoming trade, they shit all over the guy… “bad in the locker room, bad attitude, huge problems with the team, etc etc.”
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I know
Ive never heard any of this stuff before, so I am suspicious and I have a real hard time believing most of it
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
And Manny. The Globe is really an extension of the major Boston teams’ PR divisions.
by Bower Power on Jul 12, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
they have not handled things well
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Manny was great. The Globe and WEEI were all anti-Manny when he came to town. Saying people were going to boo him.
Before Manny’s first at bat people didn’t buy beer because they didn’t want to miss it. He got a two minute standing ovation.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The only reasoning behind it is that it frees up space for next year…..
…4 million that probably won’t sign up a total of a point per game.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup, Savard, should he go, won’t be going to players. He’ll go for picks and prospects. But really the whole thing is just stupid.
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You’re telling me, man.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
glad someones on my side with this
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
we're all on your side
in that we’re hoping to fleece you by getting an 80 point centre making 4M a year for a 7th round pick.
But yes, completely on your side that he’s awesome.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless Burke is holding out for Wheeler too!
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
take him
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s just sad because he misses his boy Kessel.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe
but he is awful
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe he gets a low contract out of arbitration and pulls a Travis Zajac.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Or you guys reject his contract and Burke grabs him UFA.
Win!
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Awwww...
Wheeler is awful? Who knew? YESSSSS!
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by Travis Hair on Jul 12, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well he had a down year after his excellent made-the-team-out-of-camp rookie campaign. Now I’m hoping he makes less in arbitration and has a Zajac-esque resurgence.
That and his overall numbers for his first two years are nearly identical to Frolov.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the better version
Wheeler is a tool and I hope he gets a minimum contract and flames out.
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by Travis Hair on Jul 12, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Any particuar reason Travis Hair hates Blake Wheeler’s guts?
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, well, then he’s a jerk and i feel even less sympathy for him.
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He just enjoyed playing for the University of Minnesota that much.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s like the anti-Kaberle.
HE JUST MISSED HIS BOY KESSEL.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d be okay with him getting sent down in favor of Caron or Colborne or whoever if he’s on a minimum contract.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell, I’d be downright gleeful about a minimum contract for Wheeler right now.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He’d probably get 2 million in arb.
I should also point out that his QO wouldn’t have been 2.8 million, it would have been 955,000, because as far as i know bonuses don’t count when determining QOs.
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Ya I think arb he’d probably hit $2m or close to it.
It’s going to be a further pickle in the cap quandry that is the Boston Bruins.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m thinking that 2 million number is right, as well.
It’s going to be tough to find a comparable for him because of the whole rookie free agent situation.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
the whole rumor is dumb
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Whenever I hear people say things like “imminent” and “I heard from….”, I always want to ask, where in the hell are you hearing this stuff?
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I just told you
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Savard on waivers? I’ll believe that when I see it.
Same with Gagne.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I think its dumb too
but it is the bruins
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing really. Burke’s on vacation, so don’t expect anything in the next week or so. Although we do have about 75 assistant GMs. So who knows.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s the moment when this thought goes through Matt Cooke’s head; “why did I fight a guy named evander?”
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LOL
I loved that when it happened
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Nobody doesn’t love it….well except for a few Pens fans. I saw people saying they lost respect for Kane because he fought Cooke instead of thier tough guy (Godard?). Because you are definitely a coward when you’re an 18 year old kid fighting a guy who’s got 15 pounds on you and many more fights to his name.
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lol
yeah, I nearly got banned from PensBlog after this….
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, thats dumb
Im glad someone stood up and faced him.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
No, Godard tried to get him to fight earlier and he wouldn’t, because he’s 18 years old, is a twig and had 1 previous NHL fight (also against the Pens) which lasted all of 15 seconds and involved him losing. Nobody expects Crosby to face off against other teams goons, why should Kane?
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Crosby fought Ference ;) lol
Im glad he fought Cooke.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
PPP’s on vacation, too, so that’s one less assistant GM.
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Chemmy is here though. He’s sorta the Mad Mike Milbury of the Barilkosphere.
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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 12, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m really hard pressed to think of a worse insult than calling someone Mike Milbury on a hockey blog.
by Bower Power on Jul 12, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Darryl Sutter?
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 12, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Give it time and maybe. But Yashin is still the team’s [second?] highest paid player and Bertuzzi, Chara, and Luongo are going strong.
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If Mike Milbury made insanely good moves sure.
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PPP went on Vacation at the same time as Burke.
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That would mean that pensionplanpuppets.com is really just a, pardon the pun, puppet organization of MLSE and we are all merely a part of Nonis’ grand scheme to poach our minds for amazing hockey statistics and theories. That evil genius son of a bitch.
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if that's the case
what on earth am I doing here…?
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 12, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
more than I am
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
pleas hire me im 4 year old and realy like hockey
by KerryFraser on Jul 12, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
You Americans really need to quit it with the whole “middle school” thing. It’s either Junior High or Senior Public. GET IT RIGHT!!
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lol
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
um…
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
err...
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 12, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
what?
no, middle school is fine
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I went to Rossford Junior High School, we all called it middle school.
You need to fix up your whole Grade 12 crap. It’s 12th grade, not Grade 12 ya jerks.
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Arrrrrghh…
THAT’S IT! 1812 ALL OVER AGAIN!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Good luck getting the brits on your side in this one.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Grade _ is the correct way.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
True.
I also never got on board the whole Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, Senior thing.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s not part of the vernacular up here.
People just say 1st year 2nd year etc.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Must be a metric thing
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Probs.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
took me forever to figure out which word corresponded to which grade…
too confusing for my small brain
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 12, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Ephraim Curtis Middle School
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Give them a break – they just finally fixed Grade 13.
by Bower Power on Jul 12, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
OAC
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Victory Lap FTW!!!1
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
OAC was the best.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Even Albertans make fun of me for that. And also because of the legal drinking age.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
touche.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
wow over 11,000 comments now
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 12, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions
psssh
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, so I disagree with everything Skinnyfish says about football there.
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yes, but your Scottish, and thus weird
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re English and therefore your opinions do not matter. I mean calling fries chips? What’s up with that?
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Scottish, my apologies. You’re alright in my book then.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
speaking of the queens own, where the hell is mattblack?
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
He got a better job and therefore couldn’t come round here no more, I believe.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
stupid corporate responsibility :(
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It won’t be forever before my next triumphant return. Start of the coming season, I hope.
Also, Herr. Fish neglected to mention who won the PPP World Cup pick the score competition
Dum spiro spero
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? That’s awesome. We’re in dire need of weekend FTBs. :(
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PPP World Cup pick the score competition? I only logged in once and filled out scores for like 15 matches. Then I got bored.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
TRANSLATION:
"I was getting beaten like a rented mule and therefore took no further part"
Dum spiro spero
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah boy
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit I hate Bleacher Report. Why do I click on article links to that PoS website that masquerades as journalism? I want the last 5 minutes of my life back.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
Simple Solution
Do not click on Bleacher Report articles at all cost, no matter how enticing the title may be.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Any good article’s going to just be ripping off a real news source anyhow.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Or advocating Grabbo + Mitchell for Ryan
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
too much!
Toronto Maple Leafs: Nowhere to go but up!
by LeafFan1989 on Jul 12, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's a summary of every article ever written there:
1 – open with my opinion on something or someone
2 – discuss same conjecture that’s been flying around for the last 2 or 3 years
3 – add some ludicrously impossible idea that makes no sense in the real world
4 – open floor to retarded commenters who get all their hockey info from tsn.ca
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn. I’m dying for some Leafs news.
In loving memory of #21 Chris Higgins......I never even got the chance to say "I Love You"
I’m about ready to just go shoot Kovalchuk so that noone can sign him, and the NHL can get on with life.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Get on with….what, exactly?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
different rumours
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The eleventeen bazillion moves that are all on hold until someone signs the asshat!
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t the leafs have a development camp coming up?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure it’s on right now, or was late last week.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
a lot of teams have them right now, I know the Bruins had one last week…someone write about that.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Write about the Leafs camp I mean, not Bruins camp.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
point
Anyone know if it’s open to the public? I see that Ovechwin is at the Cap’s camp, and it looks like the dude from the Flyer’s site is at theirs, we need someone at ours.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya none of us have much info on it besides what we’re reading on mapleleafs.com or tsn.ca about Kadri, D’Amigo (apparently both looking good)
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
There was some media availability with Kadri on the 7th, looks like, so it was probably last week.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=533299
June 4th-9th, so it’s over.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Gilbert Perreault isn’t there, apparently.
Not sure why that was deemed relevant.
Leaf, the universe and everything.
Because everyone reports every little detail ~CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE TIME~
option 1: during the offseason. (turn to page 37)
option 2: about the Leafs. (turn to page 56)
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we’ll see some trades and UFA signings happen in the 2 hours that follow Kovalchuk being signed. He’s a big part of any team and a huge salary and that will change the scope for the team who gets him, the teams who wanted him and didn’t get him, and the teams sitting waiting for opportunity to come out of the shifting plates beneath this deal – like the Leafs.
So far Burke has acquired Kessel and Versteeg thanks to another teams cap and roster issues. He’ll be in on this play again if Kovalchuk creates such a thing.
Oh, well then I’ll go with the safe answer: Bobby Ryan. And a pick.
by Bower Power on Jul 12, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
some ice paint
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the correct question is what WOULDN’T you take for Jeff Finger (Besides Wade Redden)
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
oooh this is a better question.
Kevin Bieksa.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Vesa Toskala (I know i know he’s a free agent)
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I find this even more powerful of a statement because it implies you wouldn’t trade for Toskala even if he only played in the minors and saved you 3 million of cap.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
I wouldn’t either.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Everything he touches turns to anti-playoffs.
See Maple Leafs, Toronto; Ducks, Anaheim; Flames, Calgary
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Future considerations… in which I mean we immediately apologize to the team who takes him.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely random rant (slow news day)
If a player clears waivers, they DO NOT, under any circumstances, have to go to the minors. Why do people keep thinking that this will occur. In fact, after clearing waivers, you have a whole month to decide what, if anything, to do with a player. As a follow up, just because the Oilers put Souray on waivers means that they have to, or are likely to, then put him on re-entry waivers!!!!!
AAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!
I rant this now because this mistake is turning into an epidemic. (Even Wysh started doing it!)
I feel better now.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Does anybody know the site where you can see who players lined up with in a %?
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I think PPP posted one a few FTB’s back… can’t remember the name of the site.
But I believe it does exist.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
www.dobberhockey.com. Lots of great stuff there.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
In other hilarious news, i just realized that tampa has 5 forwards under contract. Every subpar UFA forward should be spamming the lightning with phone calls.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Ya what’s with that, Yzerman thinks Stamkos-Lecavalier-Malone-St. Louis can do it all?
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Lecavalier has played 25 minutes before. he’s older now, though, so it might be harder for him. They have most of their top forwards, they just need third liners (Burke call em up! you’ve got lots of third liners!)
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Yzerman’s probably just waiting on players he can get for cheap… does Tampa have a self-imposed cap?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d imagine yes, but they have new owners now so who knows.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Kyle Wellwood to the Tampa Bay Lightning!
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
and Wayne Primeau! And Jamal Mayers!
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Sigh
If Kadri makes it… we have no choice but to trade Kaberle or dump Finger down. And this is with MAXING OUT our already 2nd-highest-in-the-league potential bonuses. (Tampa apparently has like $30k more in potential bonuses)
AUTO-GENERATED CAPGEEK.COM LINES
FORWARDS
Phil Kessel ($5.400m) / Tyler Bozak ($3.725m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Colby Armstrong ($3.000m) / Mikhail Grabovski ($2.900m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.350m)
Nazem Kadri ($1.720m) / Colton Orr ($1.000m) / * Christian Hanson ($0.925m)
Luca Caputi ($0.833m) / Fredrik Sjostrom ($0.750m) / John Mitchell ($0.725m)
Mike Brown ($0.537m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) / Mike Komisarek ($4.500m)
Tomas Kaberle ($4.250m) / Francois Beauchemin ($3.800m)
Jeff Finger ($3.500m) / Luke Schenn ($2.975m)
Brett Lebda ($1.450m) / Carl Gunnarsson ($0.800m)
GOALTENDERS
Jean-Sebastien Giguere ($6.000m) / Jonas Gustavsson ($1.350m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 23; CAP: $59.4m; CARRY-OVER PENALTY: $1.400m
PAYROLL: $64.474m; BONUSES: $6.235m; CAP ROOM: $-0.619m
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
O_o
That’s a terrible lineup.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
But think of the goals Orr could score playing with Kadri!!!
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Auto-generated lines… but ya it’s brutal.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This would make me much happier.
2010-11 TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
SomeTop6Fwd ($4.000m) / Tyler Bozak ($3.725m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($2.350m) / Nazem Kadri ($1.720m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Christian Hanson ($0.925m) / Mikhail Grabovski ($2.900m) / Colby Armstrong ($3.000m)
Colton Orr ($1.000m) / John Mitchell ($0.725m) / Fredrik Sjostrom ($0.750m)
Luca Caputi ($0.833m) / Mike Brown ($0.537m)
DEFENSEMEN
Francois Beauchemin ($3.800m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Carl Gunnarsson ($0.800m) / Mike Komisarek ($4.500m)
Brett Lebda ($1.450m) / Luke Schenn ($2.975m)
Korbinian Holzer ($0.595m)
GOALTENDERS
Jean-Sebastien Giguere ($6.000m) / Jonas Gustavsson ($1.350m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 23; CAP:$59.4m; CARRY-OVER PENALTY: $1.400m;
PAYROLL: $61.319m; CAP ROOM: $2.536m; BONUSES: $6.235m
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve decided on Ryan Clowe as that top 6 forward.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I would very OK with that.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You and me both.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
SJ might be interested now that they lost out on Hjarl
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They have Boyle, and Nik was a defensive guy to replace Blake. Not saying it won’t happen, just saying I’ll be surprised if it does.
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Some teams have had success with multiple PMDs. Pittsburgh, Detroit come to mind
In loving memory of #21 Chris Higgins......I never even got the chance to say "I Love You"
counterpoint
Lidstrom and Rafalski are both pretty good at offense.
Gonchar was up until this year.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
oops
typo – Lidstrom and Rafalski are both pretty good at offense. defense.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonchar good at defense? Not for a few years now. Rafalski is no stud either.
In loving memory of #21 Chris Higgins......I never even got the chance to say "I Love You"
Gonchar really fell off this year, but prior to this he was decent. Rafalski is decent as well. I didn’t say good.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i think adequate is a better term for them than recent
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I will be happy.
Clowe is as close to an “acquirable” top 6 talent as I can think of. Anything younger/higher-end (Neal, Setoguchi, etc.) is likely out of the realm of possibility short of a Burkian miracle.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So I thought Gagne was supposed to get traded today....
and yet nothing. Lame.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
the NHL is very sucky today
The biggest news is that the Canucks signed an AHL goalie.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
HOLY SHIT WHY HASN’T THIS BEEN FRONTPAGED!
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
They signed Toskala!!!!?1
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Waterboy for Second tier pee wee to be exact.
Fixed.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Assistant to the Regional vice-Waterboy for Second tier pee wee to be exact.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 12, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m going to try and sign Toskala to my squirt team this year. I’ll pay him with Juicy Juice and orange slices.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
I wonder how fast he’d feign injury as soon as a squirt scored on him.
Prefers pugnacity to truculence.
He wouldn’t feign injury right away, after a mediocre season he’d claim that he’d been injured all along.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
what if this IS true?
HockeyJoeGM This can’t be true. No way. RT @FlyGoalScoredBy Zherdev petitioning the league to wear number 99 with the #Flyers. Good start.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Please let it be true. Headcase ALREADY.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
God I hate Twitter, no message comes free of at least one @ and # sign.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
ummmm
you do know how twitter works, right…?
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 12, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
They first got to me in daycare. I’m scarred for life.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I am aware, I have an account, and I find it insanely annoying to use.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
no more world cup thighlights?
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 12, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
mmmmmmm Anna Paquin…..
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Last night’s True Blood saw her in some saucy lingerie.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
she doesn’t do it for me.
In loving memory of #21 Chris Higgins......I never even got the chance to say "I Love You"
I’ll never see her as anything but the girl from Fly Away Home.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember her from that X-Men movie.
SNN Sports - A theoretical Oilers blog (i.e. theoretically, I write stuff there). Link now 100% less broken.
Well good for you then.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 12, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent news!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ll enjoy it. It was a great epi.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 12, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Even better! Honestly though I’m just glad the minotaur woman from the second season is gone. She was the worst.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
thighlights?
kinky
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Ohyah.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
everyone loves thighs!
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Terrible, terrible thought
If Burke and Nonis are out of town, does that mean Fletcher is in charge?
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
isn’t Lebda close enough?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Not even. $3.5 mil / year for 4 years for a career minor leaguer with 1 season. I believe Finger takes the cake between the two.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 12, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
article1 is right by the way, I cheer for the Dutch because normally they play exciting offense first football.
Yesterday they tried to goon it up and Spain classed them off the pitch.
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This is very very true.
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agreed
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Spain should have started Fabregas fyi.
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My $0.02 on WC Final
Better team won.
Webb did a decent job officiating. EVERY card was warranted, although he missed a few (the kick, Puyol foul)
The dutch were outclassed completely. Spain’s ball possession game was pulled off to near perfection.
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I was very disappointed. But I have to agree that Spain totally deserved to win.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
my 2 cents, spain won and I am happy because now my Dutch friends will shut the fuck up and everyone who was some how genetically transformed into dutch can become what ever genetic background was convenient to them previous to the cup
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Same as with all of the Arabs and other people clearly not Brazilian during the qualifying. The parades through Windsor’s downtown were ridiculous. Acting like they’d won the World Cup when it wasn’t even Round of 16 yet.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
funny thing
Once Italy was eliminated I cheered for no one, just good soccer. In each match I cheered for a team, but didn’t go crazy for it.
I just don’t get how fans, italians, french, english etc can go nuts for Spain winning
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Never said that, but I was cheering for Spain
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I just don’t get how fans, italians, french, english etc can go nuts for Spain winning
Because the Dutch always act like they own soccer like Canada owns hockey. 0 World Cups says otherwise. I’ve heard/read “Hup! Holland! Hup!” so many times over the past two weeks I just wanted them to lose to wipe those smug smiles off their faces. Hey, even PPP’s front page was contaminated with the HUP fever!
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
my Oma is dutch and it’s the only heritage I have that has anything interesting attached to it.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
your east coast family is mad at you
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I love them, but historically…. nevermind, this is way off topic.
I hate Kovalchuk.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
chemmy is dutch
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i coulda swore you said you were
or half dutch or something
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
No. I like the way they play football, they have a player from Arsenal as a starter and my company is Dutch so I have lots of people to watch the games with.
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ah, well never mind then
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Chemmy’s Dutch. Just not <em>today.</em> Apparently.
Probably a secret Habs fan during the playoffs too.
by not norm ullman on Jul 12, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Which way? I’m in Winnipeg – all directions look the same.
by not norm ullman on Jul 12, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
and if you are gonna insult someone, press the preview button so you dont look like a tool with your messed up bolded words
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Dude. I previewed that one. Shoulda seen it <strong>before.
by not norm ullman on Jul 12, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
May God Wendel have mercy on your soul PPP account.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I just figgered Jared needed some help there. You know… team truculence and all.
by not norm ullman on Jul 12, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it’s lame that people were rooting for a team. Cheering “GO HOLLAND” is definitely acting like you own the world cup.
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See Go Holland is one thing, thats cool. However, driving around waving Spain flags when you are CLEARLY not Spanish is another.
Maybe I’m weird
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Thank you! I have cousins on facebook who are like ESPANNNAAAA WOOOO!
Seriously? Fuck off. You’re italian.
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Agreed.
People can cheer for whoever they want (Flag-waving acceptable). If their team gets knocked out, it’s okay to cheer for another, they just shouldn’t act like turds(Flag-waving not acceptable).
by WendelMadeMe on Jul 12, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
how can you say a person is clearly NOT Spanish….is there a criteria?
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not looking asian
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So?……..you can’t be a Spanish national if you look Asian?
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nope, its illegal
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
In my life, I have met maybe THREE people actually from Spain. THREE! Yesterday they closed yonge and dundas down and College St and saw cars waving flags while driving. All of a sudden everyone is fuckin spanish.
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I agree with you.
There’s no reason that you jerks in Canada should be allowed to have a rooting interest in the most-watched sporting event in the world, nor celebrate when the team they’re rooting for wins.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You are totally missing the point CH.
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Am I? Why don’t you explain it to me.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
if you saw me walking down the street cheering and waving a spanish flag, wouldn’t you be like WTF?
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I’d think you picked Spain because Canada hasn’t make the tourney recently so you’ve picked up a different country to root for and they finally won a cup.
I’d also hope you dove into traffic but that’s just lingering bitterness.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If you saw me, and knew I was italian and saw me with the flag, still same thought?
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“Huh. He must feel a greater attachment to spain for some personal reason that goes beyond genetics.”
I don’t believe you’re only born into a fanbase.
See that is where I disagree. Sorry that’s how I feel. I won’t argue this further
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EXACTLY………I had no exposure to hockey before i arrived in Canada…..the first game I saw was the Hurricanes vs Edmonton game 7….the next season i started watching the leafs….it doesn’t have to be a from the crib thing
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you picked the leafs heading into the 06-07 season…damn.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
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by clrkaitken on Jul 12, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
See?
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East Coast Bias FTW!!1
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
were you born in Italy?
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 12, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
does it matter though……there can be a myriad of reasons one would be a fan of any given team or person or whatever……..
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Canadian with no heritage links to a World Cup team cheering for Spain – Understandable
Canadian with Italian heritage cheering for Spain – What’s the point of claiming you have Italian heritage?
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Cheering for a team, great. Acting like you own the sport and you’re going to crush all competition before the tournament is half over, annoying.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, you are confusing the dutch with: Italians, Brazilians, Portuguese, French, English, Argentines and Spaniards
ALL OF THESE COUNTRIES DO THIS
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And that’s my number one reason why the World Cup is so incredibly annoying. No one has realistic expectations for their team.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be an awesome level of expectations for the Leafs next year.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
/sigh
except the NHL and World Cup are two very different beasts.
The World Cup is more like … well, the world cup of hockey or the Olympics for hockey.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet the Swiss slogan in Olympic hockey is “We’ll do OKAY!”
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Every team has its crazy nutjobs, no doubt about that. To say Sens_Suck represents the majority of Leafs fans is wildly inaccurate.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, many countries go in not expecting a win and say if we get to the QF, that is a success to us
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All of the Dutch guys at my office wore orange every gameday and watched the game through their fingers waiting for them to blow it.
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It makes so much sense that Leafs fans were cheering for the Dutch.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Your Toronto Maple Leafs: We Should be Adequate So Long As There Are No Untoward Surprises.
Leaf, the universe and everything.
Better than "Spirit is Everything"
That was straight up loser-talk.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t hate this one at all.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
keeping expectations down?
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
English don’t do it halfway through the tournament (because they’re already out by then)
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair, those nike ads were really cool
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you talking about?
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A lot of my friends in high school were Dutch. My facebook homepage has been nothing but status updates in all caps claiming 2010 is the Netherlands’ year for the past month.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of my friends are Canadian. My facebook homepage in February was nothing but status updates in all caps claiming 2010 is the Canada’s year for Olympic Hockey gold.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Canada is hockey’s game. as of the 2008-2009 season, 52.3% of NHL players were Canadian. Of the top 10 players in the NHL for all-time scoring, 9 are Canadian. Only Jaromir Jagr at #9 breaks the top 10. Out of the top 20, 17 are Canadian. Of course we have high expectations. Netherlands- 0 World Cups. When people discuss the best player in the world, they talk most often about Lionel Messi from Argentina. So why do the Dutch act from the beginning like they’re going to own the whole tournament? If you don’t have a history of winning and most of the best players aren’t Dutch, why expect it?
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And of course I meant hockey is Canada’s game. Brain fart!
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re getting really riled up over anecdotal evidence. No one’s going to tell you why your friends are annoying.
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Funny, I’m pretty sure that none of those all-time scoring Canadians were on t he Olympic team.
Sweden, Russia, Finland also had high expectations for their team.
The Netherlands was trumpted as a high flying, offensive team pre-world cup with a good chance to go all the way in this world cup. Why wouldn’t you expect their fans to get obnoxious? Soccer is HUGE in Holland.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
All I was saying is that Canada has a long history of producing the best of the best, always has and still does. We also expected to regain our championship after that terrible outing in Torino. The Dutch have never won a World Cup, so why do they act like it is theirs to reclaim, as Canada does with hockey Olympic Gold?
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s your interpretation of their attitude that’s making you annoyed.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, I’m sorry you have annoying friends but I don’t know a single Dutch fan who thinks the World Cup is rightfully theirs.
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A sample from one friend’s Facebook status two weeks ago:
If I hear one more person talking about our success thus far as a major surprise I will poop my pants, we practically haven’t dropped below 5 in the FIFA world rankings since the Germans stopped cutting off our food supply in the 40’s!!! The Dutch are in the semis cuz they’re SUPPOSED to be!
Now you see what I’m talking about?
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool.
Tell your friend he’s a douche. Don’t apply his actions to a whole nation of people, and a whole group of people who cheer for that nation.
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by Fergus30 on Jul 12, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This just reinforces Chemmy’s “you have annoying friends” narrative.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I see that. Pointless argument anyway I guess.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The Dutch were ranked 4th in the world coming in to the World Cup and beat Brasil (ranked #1) to get there.
The argument that they belong in the semis holds up to inspection.
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my dad’s Dutch, so I cheer the Oranje, if Canada makes it in 2014 I’ll cheer them.
As for Holland owning soccer; you have to admit that for a country of about 16M people they CAN play, just as they they have a knack for speed skating.
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by Maniel Darois on Jul 13, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Bahahah, the hawks matched the Sharks offer for Hjlamerson
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
I know it would’ve left them with no defensemen, but… 1st + 3rd??? Seriously?
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
They could have asked us for none of ours!!!!!
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean one obviously.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
they are so boned for resigning seabrook next year
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
FIRE BOWMAN!
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He’s got a long way to go before he screws up the Hawks cap as badly as Talon did
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Talon built a cup winnter though
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Tallon screwed up large, but bringing a Cup forgives almost all transgressions.
Can you imagine what this dismantling would have been like without a cup win?
I shutter to think.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Technically he built a Cup winner. He was definitely aided by getting some insanely easy picks, as well as having Keith and Seabrook in the system when he arrived. I will concede that Talon did put them over the top. Despite his albatros of a contract, Campbell was a very reliabe contributor. Huet on the other hand, not so much. I would be more worried about this team if Dollar Bill Wirtz were still running it, but they now might be inclined to bury Huet.
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Yeah, they’re going to be living with that for ages yet.
Still, it was worth it.
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What exactly has Chicago lost?
Byfuglien and Versteeg and a couple guys they tried to waive. OH NO.
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I think we all know the real Cup heroes are Ben Eager and Adam Burish.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah they’ve done the easy stuff. Now’s the hard part.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
well it still woulda been easy if they took the freaken picks
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
They probably made enough money in the playoffs to convince ownership to waive Huet and package something for Campbell’s departure.
They’re in way better shape than we are because they have high end talent on their roster and in their system.
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I don’t see how it’s even an option not to waive Huet.
I’d like to see the package that will be involved in getting rid of Campbell. If it happens I will be very impressed.
$5 says Atlanta does it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
True. But they’re paying full price for that high end talent now, which just means it becomes trickier finding the complementary players. Not that it can’t be done though… Detroit and Pittsburgh were paying full pop for their elite talent when they won their cups post-lockout.
Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.
We’re paying more than full price for not high end talent.
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ding ding ding.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Our not high end talent isn't that far from being high end talent
Unless a Norris Trophy finalist making $6.5 mill, and a 23 year old 30 goal scorer making $5.4 mill is not high end talent…. or that Cup winning goalie making $6 mill in the last year of his deal… or the all-star offensive blue liner making $4.25 mill.
We’re just badly overpaying Komisarek, Armstrong, Finger…
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously? You think Phaneuf, Kessel, Kaberle and Giguere are our high end talent and that’s enough to be a good team?
Seriously?
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
They’re in way better shape than we are because they have high end talent on their roster and in their system.
This is unquestionably true. I wish we had Kane, Toews, Keith and Hossa eating up our cap space.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure about the
“in their system” statement… until we see how that “high end talent” performs in the NHL, I’m not sure I’d be including it.
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by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
O_o………wow….. they should have just taken the picks man…..a 4th-5th d-man can be found in free agency
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Hjalmmer is better than a 4th D and will probably be a legit 2-3 guy in a year or so, but they just are not in the position to sign him
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW. I can’t believe the guys at SCH were right about this one.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Even with all teh guys they’ve shipped out already, 15 guys signed, and $100K in cap space. Damn. Even if they bury Huet they could only fill out their roster with league minimums (bye bye, Niemi).
And Campbell has a limited NTC even if they could find a buyer for him (good luck with that).
I think the only way out for them will be to unload Campbell and give up a good chunk of the picks/prospects they’ve accumulated the last month.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian Campbell to the Islanders. Makes too much sense.
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I thought that too but NTC—can designate 8 teams.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were him, those 8 teams would be:
Detroit, Calgary, Vancouver, Philadelphia, Boston, Phoenix, Dallas, Nashville.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
then he’d end up in Calgary
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
but Darryl Sutter would probably want him.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Point is; large contract + limited NTC = full NTC.
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They aren’t moving Keith, Toews, Kane, or Hossa. Pretty much everyone else is fair game
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But, I want Toews for this new NHL team called Heather’s basement. We’re awesome.
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Was that supposed to be dirty?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
she wishes
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ferg
she likes em pig nosed and serious
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yes yes
Campbell’s not getting traded.
I was trying to make a Darryl Sutter is dumb joke. :(
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Followed by an immediate buyout so they can raise their cap up to the minimum level for the next decade or so.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yikes
Who is next to go?
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PAYROLL: $59.352m; BONUSES: $0.065m; CAP ROOM: $0.113m
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
pssh, who needs a 4th line, or 6th defenseman…or second goalie….
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Huet obviously gone… limited raise for Niemi/league min backup… still gotta move campbell.
Or move Sharp and start filling out the roster with <$700k guys…
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
huet will probably be in teh AHL
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Huet = Minor leagues/Europe.
Not sure about Niemi and arb.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
Niemi filed for arbitration.
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yikes.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And
It sounds like they want to keep him. I question that – he’s still pretty green and probably at a very high value right now. If I were them, I’d be afraid of signing him to a large-ish contract and having him turn into another Huet.
Of course, I wouldn’t mind that happening, but still.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Ummm
If I were them, I’d be afraid of signing him to a large-ish contract and having him turn into another Huet.
Big difference is… Huet has never won a Stanley Cup as the starting netminder. He also wasn’t a starter in the NHL until he was 30 years of age. Niemi has won a Cup, and he’s 26.
Oh and Huet has played in 17 career playoff games with a 6-10 record, 2.68 GAA, and .916 SV%, while Niemi has already played in 22 NHL playoff games with a 16-6 record, 2.63 GAA, and .910 SV%…
I’m pretty sure Niemi won’t suddenly “turn into another Huet” at this early stage of his career.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Niemi has a below replacement level ESSV%. The only reason he’s good for Chicago is because he’s cheap. They should probably let him walk and bring up literally anyone.
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I dunno about "anyone"
and I find the idea of “below” replacement level ESSV% when he had a .914 save percentage at evens, to be a bit ridiculous.
When Gabe Desjardins determined “replacement” save percentage at Puck Prospectus he used an arbitrary determinant of half the standard deviation below the mean for goalies who faced over 500 shots over the previous two seasons.
Using the same methodology for the past 2 years, that would put replacement SV% at even strength at .913… which interestingly is a huge drop from the .938 ESSV% replacement level he used in October of 2009.
In fact, if you take the TOP even strength save percentage of the past two seasons, that belongs to Tuukka Rask of Boston, and his ESSV% last year was .937.
It’s kind of ridiculous in fact that the TOP ESSV% from last year, is BELOW replacement from 2 years ago… that’s mind blowing to me.
Either way – back to my point… Niemi was above replacement level at even strength, although I acknowledge barely… that does indicate they could replace him for a spare part, but there are only 47 goalies who achieved that level in the NHL over the past two years, which is again a drop from 2 seasons ago (60 goalies broke the .938 ESSV% plateau in 2007-08 and 2008-09 apparently)… now the top 60 goalies in the NHL are breaking the .905 ESSV% plateau…
Something tells me the goaltending is being cracked down on more than we know… and Niemi really wasn’t that bad for the Hawks last year. Oh and if it makes anyone in Leaf land feel any better (or worse) Gustavsson and Giguere were at .912 and .913 ESSV% over the past two seasons respectively… right around Niemi… and right at replacement level.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh
and if you use the same calculation on PPSV% (which admittedly includes 5 on 3’s), the replacement level SV% has dropped to 0.858 (it was 0.899 at 4v5 in October of 2009). Again… the drop is pretty noticeable and noteworthy.
Gustavsson and Giguere were at .863 and .875 while down a man, well above replacement. Niemi was at .899 while on the PK… Which is 4th in the NHL over the past two seasons… that might have something to do with why they might want to keep him. Just saying.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh and lastly
Toskala ESSV% = .902, PPSV = .822
Those are both atrociously far below replacement… He’s 4th worst in the NHL at ESSV%, and 2nd worst amongst NHL goalies in PPSV%, with 500 saves over the past two years.
That’s a pretty fucking bad combination.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
its kind of a pity he filed for arb or the sharks could activate plan: RFA offer sheet 2: Vengence.
If you can’t beat em in the playoffs, just offer sheet all their RFAs, one at a time, to contracts at market value as opposed to the super-cheap RFA contracts they’d normally get.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
They can still O/S Skille!
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's time for everyone to face the fact
that Chicago will be a worse team next year. They’ve had to give up almost half their team one way or another… they’re going to be far closer to the pack next season… probably in the middle of it.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Middle of the pack? Seriously? They won’t be as good but any team with Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Keith and Seabrook will be an above average team.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 13, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
He did
and they might walk on him if the arbitration award is too high.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they should trade us Kane for Mitchell, Rosehill, Reimer, Hanson, Gunnarson and Aulie? That should solve it!
Ah yes, the Sutter special.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh this makes me want to cry:
Toskala’s GVT in Toronto was -15.3.
Brian Campbell’s GVT was 11.4.
Cap hit:
Toskala $4M
Campbell $7M
By exchanging those two players the Leafs would have had a net GVT gain of 26.7, higher than Henrik Sedin (who won the Hart and Art Ross)
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holy crap
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
To call him a goalie is an overstatement.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
if you replaced Vesa Toskala with Ryan Miller’s GVT of 37.1 then you’d have won the division. (and he only costs $2M more!)
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Buffalo wouldn’t trade Miller. Chicago would give you Campbell if you asked.
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If YOU would have replaced Miller with Toskala, you would have Tyler Seguin right now.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 12, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
At roughly 6 goals/win, that’s almost 5 wins = 10 points right there. Factor in the demoralizing effect of Toskalol and it would be playoff contention right there alone.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 12, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t worry, next year some other unforeseen disaster will happen.
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All this talk about the World Cup
But nobody has yet mentioned the biggest tragedy that has come about with Spain winning: No free blow jobs. :(
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Yaaaay!
@Tonyambrogio200 Mike Komisarek says he is ahead of schedule recovering from shoulder surgery and “we’re going to start skating this week.” #leafs
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
he hasn’t been skating already? is the shoulder connected to your legs in some way that i am not aware of?
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ask Greg McKegg.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It's July 12th
the 1st game of the NHL season is on Thursday October 7th. That’s slightly less than 3 months from now. 3 months till game number 1 and you’re worried that he isn’t “skating” yet? The playoffs ended on June 9th, slightly over a month ago. I’m pretty sure the fact that we have until September 21st for the first pre-season game has me NOT SO WORRIED about the fact that our team’s regular players start on ice workouts in the 3rd week of July.
If an NHL regular can’t get up to decent skating shape in the span of 2 months, I’m not sure I want him on my team.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It was the same with Hossa and Kessel last year. They were off skates for 4-5 months after their shoulder surgeries. Doctors probably wouldn’t clear them and the probably Maple Leafs couldn’t have them skate due to insurance reasons.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
urrr switch that last probably to be after Maple Leafs
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
that sounds terribly reasonable and completely devoid of hyperbole or hysterical leaps of logic
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 12, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont buy it
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Needs more Bobby Ryan rumours.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 12, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
For the record
he didn’t say “I am going to start skating”… he said “We’re going to start skating”… I think he meant the Leaf regulars… which makes sense since that happens soon after the rookie camp ends.
I don’t think his shoulder has much to do with the statement he made… and I don’t think most of the guys on the team have been doing daily on ice workouts.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve missed his foxiness.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 12, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
so have I
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by Karina on Jul 12, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll be on the Hockeenight podcast tonight by the way, if anyone’s interested.
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pwnd
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll cover the skin grafts, don’t worry.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jul 12, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, it’s a lot more than that. The old profile just went away with the current, I think it’s in the Gulf now. No idea how many comments I’ve actually made. Probably around 0.5% of Jared’s.
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by not norm ullman on Jul 12, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
careful, you’ll lose a hand that way
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 12, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish everyone who liked Twilight also liked soccer… would make the job of eradicating them all that much easier!
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Football isn't hard to understand
it’s just sort of hard to watch sometimes.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 12, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand it, played it for several years when I was younger. It’s just deadly boring and frustrating to watch, in so many ways.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 12, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Dog Shit Cheesecake > Soccer
@LakerCaptain
by Another Good Kingston Boy on Jul 12, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
Soccer sucks
Good thing it’ll be four years till we have to see it again.
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