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Marcel Müller. Mueller? Mueller?

Marcel Muller in Germany, via Holner-Kaie

Per Capgeek Marcel Müller's (transliterated as 'Mueller') contract is two years for $2.25M total, broken down like this:

Season AHL Salary NHL Salary P. Bonuses S. Bonus Cap Hit
10-11 $67,500 $900,000 $212,500 $90,000 $1,112,500
11-12 $67,500 $900,000 $212,500 $90,000 $1,112,500

He's on a two way deal which suggests he'll see some time with the Marlies, at least to start the season. Born in July of 1988 Mueller turned 22 this week. So what should we expect from him? Behindthenet.ca has 'League Translations' which attempt to link different leagues to the NHL. Basically they look at how a player scored in his last year in a league and then his next year in the NHL and track the decline in scoring from that player.

Star-divide

Behindthenet has the German league (the DEL) at 0.52, meaning a player who had 100 points in the DEL last year could be expected to be somewhere around a 52 point player in the NHL. Additionally a young guy like Müller is also four or five years away from his physical peak and could likely grow as a player.

Season GP G A Pts NHLe G NHLe A NHLe Pts
08-09 41 11 14 25 11 15 26
09-10 53 24 32 56 19 26 45

"NHLe G" would be his goal output if he played 82 games with Behindthenet's observed 0.52 equivalency.  Personally I think this seems high so let's temper our expectations and treat it like an upper bound. Müller's a 22 year old who likes to play physical and we got him for free. I'm ok with this.

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Thanks for the post Chemmy — I feel like I’ve known the guy my whole life.

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by Curt S on Jul 15, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the 411

I really don’t have a clue who this guy is but I’m taking your guys’ word he’ll be fine.

by RJinSoCal on Jul 15, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Can we agree on something...

… for those of us who can’t be bothered to insert umlauts into comments? Are we going to type Muller (pronounced as in “Bueller”, not as in Kirk Muller), or the transliterated Mueller? Can we get a German to weigh in here?

by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t care either way, I used both to make sure people googling either one showed up here.

The heavy responsibilities of being a blogger.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I say that you stand on one side of the room and call him by one way, and I’ll stand on the other end and call him the other way. Then, whomever he comes to first, wins!

"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."

by Fergus30 on Jul 15, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I shall call him “squishy”

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jul 15, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll offer him a ‘treatsie’.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

me too ;)

"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."

by Fergus30 on Jul 15, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

my knowledge of Pixar films is never appreciated…

:(

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jul 15, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate it Blurr

by L510 on Jul 15, 2010 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

now there is a hilarious mental picture

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I shall cheat by hiding meat in my pocket.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. I think I need a drink now.

by Wan Ihite on Jul 15, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m always hiding meat in my pocket.

/swish!

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 15, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why the bitches are always following you around.

(by which I mean ‘female dogs’, obs)

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by Wan Ihite on Jul 15, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep, that would explain it.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 15, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it will depend on how they spell it on the sweater.

The pronunciation, though, is neither of Muller or Myuler. It’s something that can’t really be captured gracefully in English – sort of a Meuhler, but not really.

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by 1967ers on Jul 15, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would think “Mooler” would be closest, right?

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. I think I need a drink now.

by Wan Ihite on Jul 15, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

not really, I don’t think. More of an “euh” than an “oo”.

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by 1967ers on Jul 15, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well a really short “oo”. But “euh” is probably even better. We just don’t make the phonetic distinction in English that they do in German. To them we’re like a Japanese person trying to say “engrish”

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. I think I need a drink now.

by Wan Ihite on Jul 15, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except we don’t do it as well. :)

I’m not sure anyone mangles foreign phonetics with the panache of the English.

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by 1967ers on Jul 15, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Fabulous Muellah?

Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.

by Brunswick Bruiser on Jul 15, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll just call him whatever Joe Bowen does.

Mark Mullen it is.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I think it’s a safe bet that his name will never be pronounced accurately the entire time he is in North America.

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by 1967ers on Jul 15, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

knowing Joe Bowen he’ll probably be called Gustavsson

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll name him Schmidt. Everyone can say that.

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by 1967ers on Jul 15, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll call him Gunnarsson at least once this year.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 15, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ze German

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Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jul 15, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m going to go with the “Muhl-er” way, as per thomas meuller from the german football squad.

by gnarlybattleship on Jul 15, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You people stole our line! – Me, Avs fan

Me no like da Wings.

by i2strange97 on Jul 15, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Your welcome for Tucker by the way!

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate you.

Me no like da Wings.

by i2strange97 on Jul 15, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey, we’re still paying him till 2014

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate you less.

Me no like da Wings.

by i2strange97 on Jul 15, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

at least he did better than Raycroft

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you don’t love Darcy Tucker I don’t know what to say.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

When someone says “I don’t love Darcy Tucker”. I say “I like the cut of your jib sir (or madame, as the case may be)”

by Jpynn on Jul 16, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer: “I’m never speaking to you again, you emotionless life-hater”

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Muller

Why does he already seem 10000x more legitimate than Brayden Irwin?

by brewerm on Jul 15, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

He can skate faster than my grandmother?

Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

valid…I feel like watching Irwin skate is like a visual depiction of the word: “tottering”

by brewerm on Jul 15, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not 100% sure on the definition of that word, but I’m going to go ahead and assume it’s not latin for “speed demon”

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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

curiously enough, Irwin translates into Spanish as the verb Irwinar, which means “to lumber or hulk”

by brewerm on Jul 15, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

And “Brayden” translates into “a load of old tosh.”

by not norm ullman on Jul 15, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

because we haven’t seen him play or had the opportunity to dissect every inch of his game

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jul 15, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s that watching a video of him my first thought isn’t “I could make $50 challenging him to a race on skates.”

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

ding ding ding.

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by leafer1984 on Jul 15, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

It has a lot more to do with the fact that Brayden Irwin sucks.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last year Mueller scored at a higher rate, in a harder league, at a younger age.

And he can skate.

So yeah, I don’t think Irwin’s much of a comparable.

by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

the video makes it look like he can skate

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha, nice, where is the link for the video? in the fanshot?

and I started to get a bad feeling when Burke spent more time discussing how Irwin’s skating WOULDN’T be a problem than what he actually was able to do well, which, to this day, remains remarkable unclear…

by brewerm on Jul 15, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

The league translations thing forecast Bozak as a 35-point guy, IIRC.

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by 1967ers on Jul 15, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

BOZAK

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bozak is a statistical anomoly, thank goodness a good one for us for once.

Also, I don’t think those translations take into account manning the top line with Kessel.

Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus there’s going to be variance around any projection. A bit of +/- on it. You only presume that the translations are right ON AVERAGE.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. I think I need a drink now.

by Wan Ihite on Jul 15, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Grain of salt, of course. The translations are really just a line of best fit around the data.

I wonder what the R^2 or s.d. around the translations are.

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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

R^2 of zero.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that’s a terrible comparison then.

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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zwei peanuts vere valking down der strasse and vun vas assaulted. Peanut.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would hope not. Maybe .34 or so.

On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!

by Ubiquitous on Jul 15, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

No it didn't.

Unless you’re going on the basis of his NCAA to FULL NHL season comparisons… which means it translated to 41 points over a full year.

He registered 1.21 ppg in his last NCAA season… which when multiplied by the 0.41 NCAA rate translates to 0.496 ppg in the NHL. That means he should have produced 41 points in 82 games… since he played 37 games, that SHOULD have translated to 18 points, but he put up 27… so yeah he outperformed.

That being said… the weirder thing is the AHL translation is a slightly higher 0.44 rate… which means his 0.625 ppg in the AHL should have translated to 0.275 ppg in the NHL.

He somehow managed to produce 0.73 ppg in the NHL though.

All of this is making me think he’ll either tail off, or his last year of NCAA and AHL production was skewed down by his knee injury and his H1N1 infection. I’m more inclined to believe the latter.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

or it’s a sample size error thing

Or he’s just built for higher level hockey. Unusual, but not wildly implausible.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. I think I need a drink now.

by Wan Ihite on Jul 16, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect that Mueller will be a 22nd or 23rd roster player. He will spend plenty of time in the press box. These days in the press box will be known as Marcel Mueller’s Day Off. Therefore, I hereby nominate “Ferris” as the early front-runner in the PPP nickname contest.

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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 15, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Good job picking up on the title.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it’s obvious to the rest of you but, as an ancient hermit, I’ve never actually seen that movie.

"I'd walk into the Leafs dressing room to get ready for the day and Harold would be there in his boxer shorts shaving. King Clancy would drop by a little later, play the fool, and then head off to the racetrack." John Brophy

by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 15, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dear God man, do you not even get TBS?

Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get the Canadian Broadcorping Castration and the Raw Meat Channel. That’s it.

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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 15, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get thee unto a video rental store, and fast

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. I think I need a drink now.

by Wan Ihite on Jul 15, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I’m an ancient hermit who is now permitted to watch nothing but Dora the Explorer and Pixar movies (good thing I like Pixar) and I’ve still seen that a dozen times.

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by 1967ers on Jul 15, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

same.

Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.

by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 15, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The movie

has been around since 1986… that’s 24 years man… how old are you? If you’re over 60 then I MIGHT understand… if you’re under 50, then it’s existed for over half your life and I think it’s absurd that you haven’t seen it.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Save Mueller

Ferris? Cameron was way cooler than Ferris is that movie.

I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.

by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Call me SIR, god damnit!

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

But he was wearing a Red Wings jersey.

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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Skinny is/and/or/was a wings fan

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

/gasp

"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."

by Fergus30 on Jul 15, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to think that l’ve saved him from his wicked ways.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

the Manchurian candidate like brainwashing you force upon him daily probably helps

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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remain amazed that two Americans who grew up Wings and Whalers fans are now principals of a Leafs blog.

Maybe there is some hope in this world.

by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey now I’ve been a Leafs fan since I was like 8 years old. That’s better than some of you Ontario types.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, but do you drink tea with your pinky stretched out?

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was giving you bonus props, not undermining.

So you saw the light before the Whale left? I assume you’re not 21.

by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah the Whalers were pretty horrible and I really liked Felix Potvin. My goalie coach was a huge Leafs fan.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Felix was awesome. Until the Leafs win a Cup, the ‘92-’93 will always be my favourite. So much to love about that team.

by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those were just a couple of good years for Toronto sports teams in general. Hopefully we get to see that kind of success through the city again all at the same time, that would be pretty awesome.

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by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 15, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely

i wish i had appreciated it more at the time, because yeah, 1992 to about 1995 or so is seriously looking like a golden age.

Two world series, a new basketball team, a Cup contending Leafs squad and even a Grey Cup in there somewhere, if i recall. Those were the times.

I still don’t know what the hell Doug Risebrough was thinking

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by pevans on Jul 15, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was a Cowboys fan too. It was awesome.

But remember, as per the MSM, we’re losing now not because of a run of bad luck, but because we’re “loserville” and there’s something inherently defective about Toronto.

by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

the red wings just wanted it more. Also, they’re awesome at drafting, so they intentionally blow early picks to make it a challenge

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by pevans on Jul 15, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome days

I was a Bills fan too. The old man always liked the ‘home’ teams and I followed suit – hard to appreciate the winning ways when you’re 10-13 though.

by masterkembo on Jul 15, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than me, actually.

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by 1967ers on Jul 15, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait...

there are people on here who haven’t been Leafs fans since birth? I’m apalled.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a Torontonian and i grew up a Whalers fan. (Whalers were 1a, leafs were 1b). My hockey league named the teams after NHL teams and i was the goalie for the Whalers so Sean Burke immediately became my favorite.

by sodonis on Jul 15, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it was a gordie howe, so it gets a conditional pass.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 15, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pardon my french, but you’re an asshole

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by leafer1984 on Jul 15, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was kind of sad in losing Viktor, but I’m glad we picked up this kid…

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by kashman07 on Jul 15, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Work Ethic?

I hope we never hear of Ferris Mueller’s Day Off…

Also, what would I do to win the Cup?
I’d see the Leafs here in Ottawa and boo their captain!

"According to the statistics, Bester outperformed his teammates in every league that he ever played in, and was easily the best goalie the Leafs had in the 1980s. Despite this, the Momesso goal was essentially the end of Bester's NHL career."
http://brodeurisafraud.blogspot.com/2009/10/underrated-allan-bester.html

by BesterThanYesterday on Jul 15, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Errr

That would be the Senators captain, I’m working off 3 hours sleep people.

"According to the statistics, Bester outperformed his teammates in every league that he ever played in, and was easily the best goalie the Leafs had in the 1980s. Despite this, the Momesso goal was essentially the end of Bester's NHL career."
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by BesterThanYesterday on Jul 15, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve done that, it’s not as bad as you think.

Now go to Montreal and do it. That could be fun ;)

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by realcanadianbacon on Jul 15, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

its alright, i followed.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 15, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have a baby in the house. Three hours is about par.

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by 1967ers on Jul 15, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do people have children?

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 15, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

their tiny hands are perfect for grabbing stuff you dropped under the fridge

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

and between the cracks of the barbecue. someones gotta rescue lost dinner.

Life is like a bottle of Percocets. You can pretty much guarantee you're gonna get screwed at some point.

by realcanadianbacon on Jul 15, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless it’s them on the menu that night.

by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 15, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

baby back ribs mmmmm

Life is like a bottle of Percocets. You can pretty much guarantee you're gonna get screwed at some point.

by realcanadianbacon on Jul 15, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume this is the “realcanadianbacon” your name refers to?

by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 15, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I do, all day. Cure baby bacon.

Life is like a bottle of Percocets. You can pretty much guarantee you're gonna get screwed at some point.

by realcanadianbacon on Jul 15, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

tax credit

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jul 15, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is that.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Jul 15, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You bastards. I’ve got the song from the scene where he’s running through the neighbourhood to beat his sister home in my head, and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

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by clrkaitken on Jul 15, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Well now it’s in my head.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 15, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

UHHHH

day bow bow?

chick chick-a-chick-ahh

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jul 15, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The moon: beautiful.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The sun: even more beautiful

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jul 15, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

and now im thinking of the family guy homage with stewie doing same

by Death_By_Leafs on Jul 16, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

A note the 50 SPC limit

Per capgeek, with the signing of Mueller, Crabb, Zigomanis, and Richmond; the Leafs have 2 SPCs left to give out. One will presumably go to the resigning of RFA Christian Hanson, leaving only 1 left.

However, both Jesse Blacker and Jamie Devane are still eligible to play in juniors and should they play in less than 11games with the Leafs or Marlies this year, both of their contracts could slide a year which would free up 2 more SPCs for Burke to use.

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by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we go over the limit at any time?
And what is the cut-off is we can?

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 15, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Directly from the CBA
“Reserve List” means the list of all Players to whom a Club has rights including all Unsigned Draft Choices, all Players signed to an SPC (whether or not 8 currently playing in the NHL), and all Players who have signed an SPC but who have subsequently been returned to Juniors. A Club may have on its Reserve List, at any one time, not more than 90 Players, which shall include the following:

(a) Not more than 50 Players signed to an SPC and not less than 24 Players and 3 goalkeepers under an SPC. Age 18 and age 19 Players who were returned to Juniors, and who have not played 11 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from inclusion in the 50 Player limit.

Any Club violating this provision shall be liable to loss of draft choices as determined by the Commissioner.

No.
50 or we lose draft picks.

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by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, okay let’s turn 3 quarters into a dollar again.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 15, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll have to before June 1 next year. That’s our deadline to sign all our new draft picks to SPCs.

Lots of time for that but some fat is going to need to be trimmed.

by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

By then, prospects that aren’t panning out can be released from their contract though, no?

Not sure how releasing a player works.

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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think so, no. NHL contracts are guaranteed—and expire June 30, after the June 1 deadline to sign last year’s picks.

But as I said, lots of time still.

by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel that if gunnarsson will be on the leafs roster, they will sign blacker to play on the marlies.

ALSO, Oreskovic wasn’t resigned and Frogren left for Sweden.

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by realcanadianbacon on Jul 15, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yo

http://capgeek.com/reserve_lists.php?Team=4&YearBox=2010

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by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

First, I’ve legitimately never heard of Danny RIchmond. Sounds made up.

Second, Daryl Boyce is STILL under contract? Jesus.

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by clrkaitken on Jul 15, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Richmond

He’s real. And he’s all ours. Muahahahahah

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by realcanadianbacon on Jul 15, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Richmond is from the stacked as hell 2003 draft class and still made it to the NHL before Hugh Jessiman.

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by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny…when I first heard the name I thought “sounds like he plays for a Jazz or swing band or something”

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need that spot for Sweatt! But ya if Blacker and Devane go back we can get 2 more spots…

KOVALCHUK.

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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zigomanis

left for Europe last year… I’m not sure why he’s still listed on CapGeek… he played less than 10 games for the Marlies, and spent most of last year with Djugardens in Sweden.

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- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was signed again

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by Karina on Jul 15, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again?

that’s a weird one.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Jul 15, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking they have plans

If they trade Kaberle + some other players for a decent forward then that deals with some of the issues.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what I get for having a day job.

Prevents me from catching the daily updates.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://tv2sport.dk/node/55678

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by kashman07 on Jul 15, 2010 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I shit you not

They’re complaining about this cap hit on HFBoards. Seriously..

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by Jeffler on Jul 15, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

No cap hit on the Marlies.

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by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This raises a question

is there an AHL salary cap? Does anyone know the answer to this?

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure

it costs $10 to buy a copy of their CBA.
That website states that their CBA expires August 31, 2010, though.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Jul 15, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the new one will be free.

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by Biff Carrington on Jul 15, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be nice.
That website I linked to has a bit of a summary, minmum player salaries etc. It says that there is no maximum player salary, so I would assume that means there is no salary cap. So we could sign Kovalchuk to $10 mill a year and then make him play on the marlies and the AHL CBA would allow it.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Jul 15, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a maximum amount a player can earn?

There is no maximum salary a player in the AHL can earn.

Guess would mean no cap. I mean if a player can make a 100 mil…

You mess with the bull young man, you'll get the horns - Principal Richard Vernon

by Biff Carrington on Jul 15, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should buy ourselves a Calder Cup.

Oh the prestiege!

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by Biff Carrington on Jul 15, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol…..have you seen Hershey?…….

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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 15, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to the chocolate factory there one time.

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by Biff Carrington on Jul 15, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was severely disappointed at the lack of munchkins.

by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 15, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And by that I mean oompa loompas.

by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 15, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone point out to them that it’s an ELC?

by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but it’s a MAX ELC and it’s got SIGNING and PERFORMANCE BONUSES! zomg

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by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t visit HF Boards because they are stupid and I don’t want their dumb opinions. Do you see where I’m going here?

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is the second time in 2 days this has needed to be said

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by Karina on Jul 15, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFBoards is like /b/. While 99% of it is utter and complete garbage, occasionally you’ll find something decent there. And because its so active, it happens more frequently than you’d think.

But the 99% is incredibly agonizingly awful, of course.

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by Jeffler on Jul 15, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only someone would start a Leafs blog that was the other way around…

by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only you could browse multiple websites at once

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by Jeffler on Jul 15, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted to check out HFBoard but then I decided to stab myself in the eye and nail my foot to the floor. It was preferable.

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by furcifer on Jul 15, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s like watching an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond instead of Arrested Development.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 15, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is this….. “Raymond”?

by not norm ullman on Jul 15, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The closer analogy seems to be that it’s like watching “everyone loves raymond” AFTER arrested development

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by Wan Ihite on Jul 15, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

4chan also sucks.

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by Chemmy on Jul 15, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have inadvertently clicked on a link to HF boards a few times in the past, and I always feel the same feeling that I did the first time i got Rick-rolled…

If I can't be a good example, then I will just have to serve as a horrible warning...

by CancerousRocket on Jul 15, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So… you’re saying you need some summaries. Packaged dumbness.

Well… sure, I can do that.

by not norm ullman on Jul 15, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH NO'S WE HAD TO USE A MAX BASE ELC CONTRACT TO LURE A FREE AGENT.

Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.

by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

id rather he met the performance bonuses and we paid him.. at least the dude would be putting in work

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by realcanadianbacon on Jul 15, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

If he’s in the A he still gets $67,500 like every other ELC player.

If he proves he belongs on the Leafs instead MLSE should gladly pay him every penny.

Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.

by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 'ü' or 'ue' in Müller / Mueller

We don’t really have an equivalent pronunciation in English.

My German-speaking relatives tend to say it like a hybrid of ‘ooh’ and ‘eew’ … the sound is somewhere in between those two expressions.

I know, sounds odd, but it’s actually quite hard to put into words how it should be pronounced. Best description I’ve found is, say the word ‘see’. Now say it again, but round your lips (as though you’re puckering up for a kiss) as you’re saying it.

Another example would be the pronounciation the French word “rue”, minus the “r” of course. :)

Those of you who watched the World Cup … think of how the announcers were pronouncing Thomas Mueller’s name … same deal, it’s Müller in German for him also … they were about as close as the British accent would allow one to get.

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by GarrettBauman on Jul 15, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m pretty sure the announcers will just pronounce it “Mule”-er anyway.

Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 15, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’ll probably say it based on the phonetic cards given out at the start of the season. And then make a couple slip ups throughout the year.

by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpa-_2mpO3U

The German announcer says his name at 0:05. It sounds exactly like “moo”… the sounds a cow makes to me.

MOO-lur

by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 15, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly, he’s from Schleswig-Holstein.

(Maaaaaan, I’ve waited years to use that German Cow joke. Beaut, eh?)

by not norm ullman on Jul 15, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

"moo"… the sounds a cow makes to me.

After re-reading that sentence I realized just how wrong it sounds. But yet, strangely exciting.

by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 15, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone remember

the female wrestler from WWF in the 80’s? The Fabulous Moolah? She wore purple tights and had dollar signs everywhere… I think “the Fabulous Mueller” would be a solid nickname for this one also… if he pans out into a decent signing of course.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Europe cows go “Shaa-zoooo!” so his name isn’t really a cow noise.

Don't think, it hurts the team!
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by antrofan on Jul 16, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can tell those crazy European cows I’ll be seeing them between two sesame seed buns and ketchup on top.

by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 16, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

“it most certainly does not!”

by Death_By_Leafs on Jul 16, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

reply fail grr

Truncated truclence

by Future_considerations on Jul 15, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

um

scary

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by Karina on Jul 15, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which ideally is what Mueller

will develop into… a scary forward.

Fabulous Mueller it is… as far as I’m concerned.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are some things that you just can’t ‘unsee’

If I can't be a good example, then I will just have to serve as a horrible warning...

by CancerousRocket on Jul 15, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is everyone so down on Caputi?

At the same age (1 year over draft age), Caputi scored MORE goals, assists, and points than Kadri, and had a higher G/GP and pts/GP (lower A/GP) in the OHL.

Name GP G A pts G/game A/game pts/game
Kadri 56 35 58 93 0.625 1.657142857 1.603448276
Caputi 66 51 60 111 0.772727273 1.176470588 1.85

by BCapp on Jul 15, 2010 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I apologize for the messy spacing of those numbers, but i copied and pasted it from excel and I am in a bit of a rush

by BCapp on Jul 15, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because he’s now spent two years in the AHL and it’s make or break time for him. After acquiring him for Ponikarovsky, there wasn’t much to be seen. He does look like a good player on paper, but it remains to be seen whether or not he can make the jump to NHL.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Jul 15, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because your OHL stats stop mattering the second you step on NHL ice.

by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri

posted 76 points in 55 OHL playoff games. Caputi posted 20 points in 15 playoff games.

That might indicate something else.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

so Kadri 1.38 points / game
   Caputi 1.33 points / game

You’re right, Caputi clearly blows monkey balls compared to Kadri.

WTF?

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by Wan Ihite on Jul 16, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

One word

Skating.

Caputi’s is average at BEST.

Kadri’s is very good… also Kadri has more filling out to do than Caputi appeared to.

Playing as a PF in the OHL is a funny concept, because most of the best NHL power forward types are guys that are tall but haven’t added enough weight when they’re 19… OHL Power Forwards can be guys that are only 5’10" or 6’ who have filled out faster… unfortunately they top out at 195 or 200 lbs, which isn’t particularly large by NHL standards.

The Skating thing also isn’t a huge issue for them in the OHL, but it is by the time the NHL rolls around.

They just aren’t equivalent leagues, so it’s important to look beyond stats at individual skill sets.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not down on Caputi but....

He’s done very well in the AHL, but he had some serious playing time with the Leafs and did very little with it. Maybe he’ll do better next year? No idea where he fits in a lineup. Could be anywhere from 2nd-4th line to 1st line Marlies.

He’s like a mystery box to me. He could be anything, a 40 goal scorer or a career AHLer. SO MUCH MYSTERY

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A drinking team with a hockey problem.

by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He might as well start wearing a cape and mask.

by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 15, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's true though

when I’m doing mock rosters, I have no idea where to pencil him in. Maybe that’s his greatest strength…

Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.

by nhlcheapshot on Jul 15, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sub him in for Kaberle.

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by Wan Ihite on Jul 16, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hes usually in the pressbox when i do the mock lineup

Jembries

by oneKesselcul on Jul 16, 2010 4:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

they pronounce M’s like B’s in Germany?

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, they say “zee” instead of “the” so who knows? Crazy Germans!

by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 16, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

der, die, das, is “the” in german

Guns don't kill people, people kill people ... with smaller guns

by rtc on Jul 17, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahahahahah.

He better not take any days off.. That’s exactly what we don’t need

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by realcanadianbacon on Jul 16, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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