Paging Dr. SkinnyFish to the FTB
by SkinnyFish on Jul 16, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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I'm gonna keep this short and sweet as I need to get to bed here soon. Why you ask? Well because as of 8am this morning I will be taking the Medical College Admission Test. That's right, I want to go to medical school and become a doctor. Freaky shit right?
Now turn your head and check out the links after the jump:
Simon Gagne in Toronto? Not a good idea.
VLM reminds us of other players the Leafs signed too late in their careers.
Ever thought that Marcel Mueller looks familiar?
So did Blue Chip Prospects, and they know why.
Realistic hockey movie titles that the NHL should back
Fifty Mission Cap has just what is needed to remedy the current hockey movie lull.
Holy Beanbags Bettman! Wild sign Mikko Koivu to 7 year, $47.25M extension
The bar FA bar has been reset a little higher now.
FREE JERSEYS AT LEAFSHQ!
Or MLHS mailbag for short.
Amen to that brother!
Blue Eyed Blonde Left Winger, Pt. 1
Archi says goodbye to the gorgeous Viktor Stalberg.
Why did Burke sign a soccer player?
The Keyser Soze himself doesn't understand who Marcel Mueller is.
Detroit signs Derek Meech to a 1-year, $500k contract
That's the guy they wanted to keep over Brett Lebda.
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probably in the minor here but i’m happy for the koivu signing. ok, it’s lots of money but i think there are way less deserving people in nhl making same or little more.
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
One more year!
Weirdest. Salary Structure. Ever.
http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=925
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe they were bored and decided to try something new…? or then there’s something extra in the minnesota air/water ;)
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
One more year!
He’s going to make $9-million in the last year of his contract! That’s pretty crazy.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jul 16, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Per capgeek, a full NMC too. I’m not sure I would say it’s an overpayment, but I don’t think it’s an underpayment warranting an NMC, either.
Interesting they seem intent on locking up a team that finished 22nd last year and isn’t particularly young. They have no cap space next year for significant additions either.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
You know, if I was getting what could be deemed as a “large contract” i’d want a NMC too, prevents anyone speculating from “dumping him in the minors”.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d want it, but do you give them out? It’s amazing how frequently these are doled out, and not just by JFJ.
And with a smaller market team like Minnesota, is there really a danger of dumping in the minors? That could only happen after a trade, and a NTC protects against that.
It’s just giving an awfully big hammer to a very good player but probably not one of the 15 best forwards in the NHL.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Especially on a seven year deal.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
that’s a lot of money for a 70 point player
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Have you seen his linemates?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Linemates: Random thugs and rejects from the habs
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
He barely played with Latendresse. Most commonly it was Andrew Brunette and Antti Miettinen
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
You weren’t kidding. I thought you were exaggerating. He played 47% of his EV minutes with them, that’s insane.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
See?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude is legit.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Bruentte is a pretty solid winger
6 NHL seasons with 20+ goals, 8 seasons with 50+ points, he’s cracked the 60+ point plateau on 4 occasions, and hit his career high of 83 four seasons ago while playing for th Avs.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s been good, for sure. He’s a playoff hero for the Wild back in 2003 for sure. (ps suck it Avs)
Out of the 61 points he’s got last year, 42 are also Koivu’s. This doesn’t necessarily reflect poorly on him per se but it’s a number so it must be useful to the discussion.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
i kinda luv miettinen but dear god he needs better wings… so, kovy to wild!
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
One more year!
YES! BEST SOLUTION!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
My brain would asplode if that happened.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
That would be the wackiest thing going if that happened.
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
It would be the best thing for the Wild.
Lose Gaborik but gain Kovalchuk? YES PLEASE
Of course they’re pretty near the cap for next (2011-2012) year so there’s no possibility of it happening.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
humph… there goes my daydreaming :/
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
One more year!
Hey, if Pierre-marc bouchard wasn’t all mushy in the brain-pan maybe they could move him.
Then they’d have 6+ million to play with. Shoot havlat and we’re set!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
hmmm… they should definitely call to sutter about that bouchard situation…
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
One more year!
Actually if Bouchard wasn’t mushy in the brain-pan they could probably use him.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
is he expected to play this upcoming season?
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
One more year!
Yes
at this point they expect him back.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Worth it.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s so good in his own zone too. I honestly feel like he’s a top 20 two way player in the league
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
a top 2 way player should have a decent plus minus…..lits a crude stat but still……. especially when you’re playing in front of Nicklas Backstrom. Koivu
Toronto Maple Leafs: Nowhere to go but up!
by LeafFan1989 on Jul 16, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Koivu has a career +- of 10
Toronto Maple Leafs: Nowhere to go but up!
by LeafFan1989 on Jul 16, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Have you seen his linemates? You think Crosby needed wingers, wait till you see what they have in Minnesota.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
by Ubiquitous on Jul 16, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
On a team that’s only made the playoffs 2 out of 5 years he’s been there. On top of that he had the 35th-highest GVT in the league last year.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Being really really good and playing for Lemaire for a good chunk of your career will do that to a man.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a blog. I don’t usually write about hockey, but today I did. Check it out.
by Leaf in Habland on Jul 16, 2010 7:30 AM EDT reply actions
Doc Emrick rules!!
Thank God for NBC hockey broadcasts of the finals so I don’t have to listen to Jim “the human mute button” Hughson.
If God didn't want me to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
by The Meatriarchy on Jul 16, 2010 7:50 AM EDT reply actions
That’s funny, I disagree completely with this statement.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate them both and would rather listen to flat static for 2 hours
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
JACK EDWARDS
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
see, now your just making it worse
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay so Jack still has things to learn about hockey.
Jack and Brick are an awesome duo though.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Joe Finley to the Russians: "Como estas?"
by Steck It Out on Jul 16, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
jebus….its like Rick Jennerette on acid
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel bad for his broadcast partner, too.
Joe Finley to the Russians: "Como estas?"
by Steck It Out on Jul 16, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
who was that crazy one who always threw in random cliches and pop culture references?
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
The pens guy? Oh shit, I forget his name.
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Lang in Pitt:
“Elvis has left the building!”
“He beat him like a rented mule”
My personal fave:
“Instant Coffey, instant goal!”
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The Panthers radio dude?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, thats the one
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s still at it.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
My god.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
How did Sens_Suck get a job as the Tampa play by-play-guy?
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 16, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Bob Cole!
Joe Bowen!
Harry Neale!
These are the voices of hockey
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
No, jack Edwards is horrible, and Brick tries his best to save the broadcast but ultimately fails.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Jack > Rick
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
they both suck
terribly
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
In a competition between Jack and Rick, the only real loser is the audience.
by Bower Power on Jul 16, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true. Rick is awesome.
Jack can go chew on some rusty nails, though
by Jeffler on Jul 16, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No one should be allowed to speak in the pitch that Rick uses for “sc000000000res.” So. Nasal.
by Bower Power on Jul 16, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
EWWWwwwWWWWWwwwwWWWWWWW
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Ralph Strangis and Darryl “Razor” Reaugh in Dallas ftw…I think Razor keeps a couple of thesauruses handy when calling games
by Sonic_Screwdriver on Jul 16, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Good luck Skinny! I am sure that you will kill it.
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 8:05 AM EDT reply actions
And then use his medical knowledge to bring it back from the dead?
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
But of course, and if that doens’t work then black magic is always a good option.
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
This may be the first time ever Skinny gets up before 9am.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
by Chemmy on Jul 16, 2010 8:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
he was up at 6 every morning over the Canada Day Long weekend.
"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."
"up"?
BCWW
In loving memory of #21 Chris Higgins......I never even got the chance to say "I Love You"
I see what you did there.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
No seriously! We got up at 6am and went looking for wildlife! We saw a moose!
"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."
seriously – how else can you explain getting to my car by 11am, when it was a 3 hour paddle to the campsite and takes 2 hours to eat breakfast, clean up and pack up?
"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."
You did all the work and he slept in the canoe?
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Happy Friday
I have this strange feeling that something meaningful is going to happen today
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
Nope, I am not going to get my hopes up…
secretly hopes something will happen
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
If I was gonna be a doc, I would imagine this is a good role model.
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Didn’t Lyndon B. Johnson die almost 4 decades ago? Bit late to take notes on class dontcha think?
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 16, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Man that was an awful awful joke
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole
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I have a history degree and little to no knowledge of baseball. I actually know of no other LBJ’s.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 16, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
LBJ – LeBron James. He plays basketball. You may have heard of him before
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole
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The video of Hogan joining the NwO with James, Bosh and Wade’s heads in their place is brilliant
Resident Capologist
WHAT? I need to see this.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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HOW IS THIS NOT GREEN!!
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 16, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
working on it.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s not Stephen Strasburg, and hence he’s a baseball player i don’t care about. Though they do kind of look similiar.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
ummmmm
I need an Eyebeleaf signal.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 16, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
rec that mofo.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
mmm green, such a nice colour.
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Knock 'em dead, Skinny Fish
Er, wait…“break a leg”.
No, wait, that doesn’t sound right either. How about just “I hope you do well.”
jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog
"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
I just want to tell you Skinny, good luck. We’re all counting on you.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 9:05 AM EDT reply actions
So, you’re going to be a real doctor, or a doctor like this guy’s a doctor?
Resident Capologist
by clrkaitken on Jul 16, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
My doctorate is in Art History!
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
In approval I can only assume.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Just because I think I’m a doctor doesn’t make me a doctor…these fancy clothes do!
by Sonic_Screwdriver on Jul 16, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Dr. Skinnyfish can now be reached at 1-800-DOCTORB
The ‘B’ stands for ‘bargain’!
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Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Jul 16, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
If Skinny turned into an evil doctor, you have to go with the best.
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 9:12 AM EDT reply actions
probably closer to this actually
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I enjoy NPH much more then Mike Meyers personally. That and Dr. Horrible was the one good thing to have ever come out of the writers strike.
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Luck, Skinny Fish
Hope you pass the exam with flying colors.
6’3" 220. That is all I need to know about the Mueller signing, and why Montreal wasn’t in serious contention to sign him.
Then again, he could be a Fantastic doctor.
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
As far as the $500 K signing of Meech goes
I’m pretty sure they didn’t “prefer” him over Lebda, and I’m guessing if Lebda had been willing to sign for $500 K they’d have kept him.
The idea that they’d want to hold on to a prospect that has yet to crack their line up full time over a guy that’s played over 300 NHL games and won a Stanley Cup with them is a bit ridiculous… especially if they cost the same amount.
Also… Derek Meech has been trying to crack the Wings line up for 4 years, and he has played a total of 126 games… he has recorded 16 points in 126 games. He is not remotely serviceable from an offensive perspective… hence he is not the replacement for Brett Lebda on the Wings blue line.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
The point is they prefer Meech at $500K to Lebda at $1.45MM.
Detroit were smart enough to use Lebda when he was cheap and cut bait once he wasn’t.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
This is hyperbole but, would you prefer bronze to gold because it was cheaper?
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It depends on what you’re using it for.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends if there is a maximum amount of combined bronze, silver and gold a team could have. Some type of “maximum cap” if you will.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
clever.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
If I had a limited amount of money to spend, and bronze would get the job done, quite possibly.
Like everything else in life its cost/value.
IMHO peoples problem with Lebda is his cost/value.
I think the better question would be: (note I have NO IDEA the actual value of these metals):
“Would you rather have gold at $10 000/lb or bronze at $100/lb?” (again don’t crucify me if my values are way off)
I think he means the wings in this case, prefers the bronze but not at the price as if its gold or at price that it should be gold but its not.
"There's been four different Cup winners the last four years, and I got one of them (Anaheim) and it was a fighting team. We're playing it that way regardless." - B. Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs GM
Also
Who is to say Detroit cut him loose? Maybe Lebda didn’t want to play there behind everybody.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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He’s behind Phaneuf, Komi, Beauch, Schenn and Gunnar in Toronto. Not to mention Kaberle and perhaps Finger until they are traded/waived.
He’s not getting more playing time with the Leafs. We don’t have the Wings’ high end talent, but we have more D depth.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t say anything about that. I said maybe he didnt want to play behind people in Detroit. Maybe it was his decision to leave. WE DON’T KNOW
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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What leafer? Aren’t you omnipotent too?
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
No I’m not, nor do I act like I am
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole
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you really should
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 16, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
/sarcasm
And here i thought that everyone was nowadays with their google machines and twitters and such
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Says the man whose profile pic is Jesus.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought that was a dead giveaway, really.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Lemme drop some knowledge on ya
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole
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I can’t youtube at work so I’ll just have to guess I’ve been e-pantsed?
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Title is
Buddy Christ – Scene from Dogma
I can’t youtube from work either but it only blocks the video and not the page.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Strangely enough, my profile pic is also the savior of (Sabres) mankind
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Ruff 11.3
“And then Tyler Ennis was released from the horrible prison known as the Portland Pirates and descended on Buffalo to save its people from the horrors of dressing Drew Stafford, and all rejoiced. Amen.”
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
What’s with the Drew Stafford hate?
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he’s “the powerless power forward” and incredibly lazy.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
hmm, interesting take. not what i’ve seen from him in his games vs. Leafs. anyone else agree with this assessment?
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Stat: He played 30% of his shifts with Roy and Vanek, and scored 6 points. SIX.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
ugh, that’s pretty ugly.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahahahahaha
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Todd Bertuzzi?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 16, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
todd bertuzzi was, at one point in time, the prototypical power forward. bertuzzi-naslund-morrison was one of the scariest lines of the past 10 years.
by gnarlybattleship on Jul 16, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
oh I know
but now, he fits the description above
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 16, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
not just any Jesus
but buddy Jesus.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 16, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I love ya bro, but its Buddy CHRIST
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984
I have jesus in my profile pic also
I wonder which one of us is the REAL jesus. His is actually the Buddy Jesus from Dogma I think though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I need to read ahead more than I do
Buddy Christ … then it’s not Jesus… it’s Buddy… so I don’t think we have a conflict.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Calm down, I’m not implying omniscience. All I’m saying is it seems unlikely he “didn’t want to play there behind everybody” since he’ll be playing behind more guys here. Obviously none of us are inside his head, all we have are the facts and logical inferences to be drawn from them.
I don’t think it’s a logical inference that he came here because of all the guys he was behind in Detroit. I think the more logical inference is he came here because we offered a lot more money. Is that really even controversial?
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Your point was that Detroit didn’t want to keep him. We don’t know anything about what Detroit wanted.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, we do know something. We know they didn’t sign him. We can draw a series of logical inferences from that, including that they didn’t think he was worth $1.45MM when they could pay Meech $500K.
Or we could look at that Wings’ fan’s twitter feed from after the signing.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
What if they offered that to him and he didn’t want to sign?
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Then we have to assume he’s made an odd choice. Play as 5/6 D for a perennial winner or move to 29th place team and be somewhere between 6 and 8 on the depth chart.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not omnipotent
But I’d have to say that maybe being paid 3x as much as he MAY have been offered in Detroit had a large part to do with it.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Who knows how much Detroit would have paid him. Maybe they would have gone to 1.2 Million for all we know. And maybe someone else offered even more than us and he thought "y’know, I think I’d like Toronto and Burke, and the money is still way better than I’m used to. And even with a NMC clause, 3M still isn’t enough to live in Edmonton…
We don’t know. We can make educated guesses is all
Hell, mine’s not even educated.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the wings fan twitter reaction to the Lebda signing consisted of mainly hysterical laughter and redicule of Burke…
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
My point is most Wings fans thought of Lebda the way we thought of Exelby (for different reasons).
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you have inside info that proves this? Or are you assuming? Because I’ve heard otherwise.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 16, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I just meant he apparently wouldn’t match Burke’s price. If you have info Holland offered $1.45 or close to it I’m all ears for facts.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
No, actually I’m not talking about Holland being willing to pay him.
Lebda’s situation is much like mine was 2 years ago at work. I loved the work, I really liked most of the people I worked with, but I knew I could do more and make more elsewhere. When that opportunity came up, my boss was sad to see me go, but she knew that I was being given a shot that I wasn’t going to get where I currently worked, and along with that shot was more salary.
Follow?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 16, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Holland
said the Leafs were getting a good player, and said he’d do well in their system.
He never said anything about not matching the contract, or anything of that ilk. And he probably never will, so saying he REFUSED to match as if he said that is just as ridiculous as anyone saying he DID match.
Nobody knows what he offered Lebda other than he and Lebda, and anyone Lebda or Holland have told… but they haven’t told us.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
we could look at that Wings’ fan’s twitter feed from after the signing.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 16, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Follow-up. Who is more delusional: Sens_Suck or the tinfoil hat wings fans (A2Y?)
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
I have no idea who said wings fans are, but I’m going to go ahead and say Sens_Suck immediately.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
the tinfoil hat wings fans (Abel 2 Yzerman is a moderate faction of those fans, there are much worse) Are wings fans that believe Gary Bettman is out to get them and there’s a giant conspiracy to prevent them from ever winning anything.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Ya that conspiracy really stopped them from winning all those cups recently.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. and new fangled rules such as “Holmstorm cannot sit on the goalie” and “slow red wings defenders can not ride the coattails of must faster attackers”
It got pretty bad when they played Pheonix in the playoffs and there was any marginal call.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
It’s funny, a buddy of mine is a DRW fan, and he was upset they let him go. Funny how everyones opinion is different.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984
I don’t want to be rude, but I feel fairly confident that I know everyone’s opinion about the Lebda signing. Why do we argue it constantly?
"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."
What’s my opinion of it?
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, but you had to look that up.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
She’s a witch!
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
And what do we burn apart from Witches?
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Wood!
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Moar Witches!!
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
If…she…weighs the same as a duck……she’s made of wood.
and therefore…
a WITCH!!
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
because
somebody here has the wrong opinion!
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 16, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And here i thought it was because everyone liked to say the word Lebda.
LebdaLebdaLebdaLebdaLebdaLebdaLebda
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
that too, naturally
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 16, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
The real reason is what else is there?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Dr. Steve brought up the Meech angle that hadn’t been raised before, I disagreed, Leafer jumped all over me, chaos ensued.
S.N.A.F.U.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
This could all be avoided if Burkie just signed Kovy already.
Think of the blog commentors, Burkie!
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
That would crash SBN.
But it isn’t happening.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
We need to create an eloborate fake of this to test if it’ll crash sbn.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
War of the Worlds style! Brilliant idea. All you’d need to do is hack Dreger or McKenzie’s twitter feeds…
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
They’re old, so they probably use stupid passwords. Just tweet: Kovy signs with Leafs. Done… And watch the chaos.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
NOTE: THIS IS NOT TRUE
though i wonder if just commenting
DarrenDreger
Ilya Kovalchuk signs 7 year deal with Toronto.
would work.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Could always try the “make up fake retweet of someone credible, hope someone else credible picks it up” routine.
Happened to me once, even though I wasn’t hoping for the second half to happen, cause the proposal was merely a gag (pretended Kevin Allen reported Grabo and Finger for Savard and our 1st, BD Gallof retweeted it, shitstorm occured)
God, I hope not. The day I become relevant is the day I suggest we move every Canadian hockey team to Arizona.
Aww.. but who doesn’t want teams in Houston, Mexico City, New Orleans, Amarillo, Albaquerque, and San Diego? (besides everyone)
Aww.. but who doesn’t want teams in Houston, Mexico City, New Orleans, Amarillo, Albaquerque, and San Diego? (besides everyone)It’d be AWESOME.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
That’s odd. It double posted somehow. I blame magic.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
i agree
growing the sport of hockey is a bad idea and anyone who lives in the southern united states doesn’t deserve to learn about it anyways.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 16, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh sure, blame everything on Orlando.
Wrong bit of Florida anyway, right now everything is Miami’s fault.
Ft. Myers was the second highest rated non-NHL market for SCF viewing, yet they don’t have a team and two other florida markets do.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
You always think people are jumping all over you, when to honest, I really don’t care about you, nor anyone here. Nothing is personal. You need to realize that.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984
There’s nothing wrong with not liking my commenting style. I am skeptical, critical and analytical. That will rub some people the wrong way. I do my thing you do yours. You don’t have to pretend otherwise.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
We Could
Just start handing these out to people…
http://www.marriedtothesea.com/062610/first-place-at-internet.gif
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jul 16, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
It's like religion and politics.
Most people are pretty clear on such things, but they still get debated incessantly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Problem is when people say things as fact
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984
I used facts to support what was obviously an opinion.
Or should I preface every comment I make with “in my opinion” so as not to offend you, as I so clearly do?
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Saying “in my opinion” or “I think” or “it is possible” goes against everything I’ve been told by every teacher and prof at the high school and university levels. You’re supposed to write with confidence. If people can’t figure out what an opinion is and jump on you for stating facts, too bad for them. Carry on as usual, I think someone’s having a bad day.
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 16, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re right of course, and I was being unnecessarky snarky. My bad.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Saying "in my opinion" or "I think" or "it is possible" goes against everything I’ve been told by every teacher and prof at the high school and university levels.
Ah, the difference between writing for academic purposes and writing for dissemination… words like “likely,” “possibly,” and “probably” are a huge part of a simple philosophy: C. Y. A.
by Bower Power on Jul 16, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, you try writing academic stuff like that, you are going to get beaten up hard. Appropriate hedging is a sign that you aren’t trying to appropriate other peolpe’s ideas, and know what there is evidence for, and what is just supposition.
In reality, a balance is probably better. Sometimes it’s good to flag that something is just an opinion, other times is should be clear.
That's not a logical inference
Because you have no idea if Lebda wanted to go back to Detroit for the exact same dollar amount.
Let’s face it, Detroit is a worse city than Toronto (I’m biased… but seriously)…
Also – Lebda might just want a change of scenery.
Saying that Detroit didn’t offer him a contract isn’t fair or realistic and they won’t discuss it openly… so we’ll probably not know anytime soon.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody knows for certain, I’m just trying to draw inferences.
As for what Holland said publicly… well… let’s just say I put about zero stock in that.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
What’s the difference between him saying it or him not saying it?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
None.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks better, Red Wings get called a “class organization”
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Bingo
Frankly I’d have preferred if he wasn’t so cheerful and magnanimous about losing a player to us.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The only way he wasn’t going to sound cheerful and magnanimous is if Lebda had left under scurrilous means (unannounced RFA offer sheet or whatever it is that gets GM’s blood boiling).
He’s making a public statement about a former player who left under good terms, why would he be anything BUT gracious? Who knows what he says to his wife when he gets home.
Who knows what he says to his wife when he gets home.
Hup! Holland! Hup! Giggity giggity!
by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 17, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He wasn’t even a serviceable defenseman in junior. Only reason he made the WJC club is that he was Dion’s every day partner in Red Deer.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Skinny Fish: I am starting med school on September 1st.
I believe you are in the states, but if you are in Canada/applying to Canada, I would be more than happy to help you out with your application
This is blowing my mind a little: http://www.nesn.com/toronto-maple-leafs/
Additionally,
BenThrashers
Good news for NHL GameCenter Live subscribers. In 2010-11 you’ll be able to choose between road and home video feeds.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions
This makes gamecenter live probably more tempting than center ice now… but apparently my cable operator sees no need to either a) charge me for center ice or b) disable it.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Excellent news!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s NESN; they think this is breaking news.
by Bower Power on Jul 16, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the real question is “Why does NESN have a TML sub-page?”
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
That was what I was getting at.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So that Bruins fans know what they’re getting when we trade Caputi for Horton and Savard. (e11)
by Bower Power on Jul 16, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t look like the Cup will be heading north in 2011 either as Canadian based teams are priced no shorter than +1700 (17/1) in the outright winner’s market.
Here are the current odds for all the Canadian based teams:
1. Vancouver Canucks +1700 Bwin
2. Montreal Canadiens +3300 Stan James
3. Calgary Flames +3600 Stan James
4. Ottawa Senators +4000 BetFred
5. Toronto Maple Leafs +6600 Boylesports
6. Edmonton Oilers +10000 Boylesports
66 to 1 Odds against Leafs taking the cup in 2011.
But Edmonton has 100 to 1, so at least there’s that!
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
The Senators have 40 to 1 odds and the Flames have 36 to 1. Just can’t take anything seriously after that.
by Bower Power on Jul 16, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Even after Sutter’s rediculousness, I don’t see how Calgary has worse odds than Montreal, unless they are factoring in future stupid moves by Calgary.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably this year: Calgary misses playoffs, Montreal plays in conference finals. Ugh that had been gone from my memory until now.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m almost certain they just do these odds by final standings (aka not accounting for off season moves). Calgary has gotten older yet again, Montreal lost their goalie, and Ottawa lost their star defensive defenseman. To say that the odds of the Canuks winning are only twice as good as Montreal or Calgary…
the better question is when are we starting a collection and putting down some pooled money.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 16, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m dropping a dollar today on the Leafs winning the cup next year.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Frolov
A name that is occasionally brought up, but almost immediately dismissed due to his perceived high asking price and only-shows-up-when-he-feels-like-it-ness.
Ignoring that for a second, he is 28, fairly talented, and is clearly out of the spotlight as he could be considered Kovy super-light.
He earned $2.9M cap hit for the last 5 years ($4M in salary last year).
At what price point does he become a serious option to consider? $3.5M? $4M? $4.5M? There are rumours he’s asking for $5M, likely multi-year.
Points per game the last 5 years:
05/06 – 21G, 54P in 69GP (0.78 PPG)
06/07 – 35G, 71P in 82GP (0.87 PPG)
07/08 – 23G, 67P in 71GP (0.94 PPG)
08/09 – 32G, 59P in 77GP (0.77 PPG)
09/10 – 19G, 51P in 81GP (0.63 PPG)
He is also the correct position (LW) that Burke seems to be looking for, 6’2" 202 lbs (although I don’t think he uses his body that often). Not sure about his intangibles though.
I imagine there is no way he signs anywhere before Kovy picks a destination though, as any team who misses out on Kovalchuk might look to Frolov as one of the next best options, and you gotta figure his agent knows that and will probably get a bigger payday for waiting.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
You read my post!
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Yes but that quickly turned into a James Neal love-in (of which I was one of the people leading the charge)
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
(Insert “Not Sure if Serious” Joker picture here)
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
(Insert “Amiguous stone-faced stare” picture here)
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You just don’t get it, do ya Scott?
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
by SkinnyFish on Jul 16, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
07/08 – 23G, 67P in 71GP (0.94 PPG)
08/09 – 32G, 59P in 77GP (0.77 PPG)
09/10 – 19G, 51P in 81GP (0.63 PPG)
Steadily declining point production. He would need to be on a 1 or 2 year deal, and I’d really only burn up to 3-3.5 tops. No way he’s looking for a contract like that, but I’d rather we look for someone who’s either A) considerably younger / pre-prime, or B) someone who at least isn’t on a downswing in point production. Overall, not interested.
A) considerably younger / pre-prime
Fair enough, that’s what every fan/team wants.
But let’s think logically here – short of a miracle trade of Kaberle for Neal or Setoguchi, is it even possible to get a young dynamic top 6 forward?
Frolov would cost no assets, and we could still deal Kaberle for picks/prospect.
or B) someone who at least isn’t on a downswing in point production.
Again, good luck – sometimes players on the outs or who have had bad seasons are good players who are available simply because they had a bad season (i.e. Phaneuf, although a different scenario there)
Not necessarily leading the charge for Frolov here, but i’d say he should be up for consideration once the Kovalchuk “sweepstakes/cap cripplement” finishes.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He need to be considered for sure.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
but didnt he spend a lot of time on the 3rd line?
because of pairings & he was decently responsible in his own zone?
i know nothign of QComp stats, this is just based on a hazy recollection of a Lombardi interview from the season.
also, lombardi is probably waiting to see if he gets kovy or not, if not he keeps frolov.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jul 16, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Steadily
declining minutes also don’t forget.
He played less when more skill came into the fold. His role and PP time decreased… he wasn’t the go to guy, thus his production dipped.
Not shocking. Unfortunately Toronto doesn’t have a lot of other options, his numbers could quite easily rebound in T.O.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
But it’s kind of a “which came first” scenario. Did his minutes decline because his production/production rate declined, or did his production decline because of his minutes? For a guy likely in his physical prime, I’m not sure I want to take a flyer on him if that question can’t be quickly/easily/definitively answered – let alone a multi-year deal.
I don't think you can blame Frolov
for the Kings adding more adequate pieces to the puzzle.
When they brought in Smyth, his minutes nosedived, as did his production. Here’s how he compares with the other top LW (Dustin Brown) on the Kings since the lockout:
05-06: Frolov ESP/15mins (0.639) – PPP/5mins (0.197), Brown ESP/15mins (0.333) – PPP/5mins (0.199)
06-07: Frolov ESP/15mins (0.525) – PPP/5mins (0.381), Brown ESP/15mins (0.293) – PPP/5mins (0.419)
07-08: Frolov ESP/15mins (0.692) – PPP/5mins (0.350), Brown ESP/15mins (0.446) – PPP/5mins (0.379)
08-09: Frolov ESP/15mins (0.442) – PPP/5mins (0.479), Brown ESP/15mins (0.465) – PPP/5mins (0.305)
09-10: Frolov ESP/15mins (0.476) – PPP/5mins (0.351), Brown ESP/15mins (0.486) – PPP/5mins (0.326)
Then they also brought in Smyth this past season who performed as follows:
09-10: Smyth ESP/15mins (0.429) – PPP/5mins (0.455)
So let’s see, yes this past year he was outperformed by both Smyth and Brown … likely in large part because they had better line mates when they were in the game generally speaking. Smyth’s QTEAM was .114, Brown’s was .097, Frolov’s was .049. If you look at his zone start numbers, Smyth and Modin were very sheltered at LW, while Frolov and Brown were taking defensive zone draws.
Prior to this past season though, Frolov was consistently on par with, if not superior to Dustin Brown, and for the first 3 years post-lockout, he was a superior LW to Brown. Brown’s playing on the top line now, and Frolov has been demoted, but it isn’t for lack of talent. Quite the contrary, it’s been spun as a poor attitude situation, when in reality it’s just the team going in a different direction with different players. Brown is more physical, and he’s developed into a solid Power Forward type, the skill up front on the top line is provided by Kopitar and Williams (when healthy), and frankly the need for another skill player isn’t as large. Smyth is a LW so Frolov is demoted to line 3 by default… that isn’t HIS fault. He isn’t a power forward style player, and the players they’re counting on to lead them forward aren’t Left Wingers…
He would do very well in the Leafs system I think, and he would easily provide the offense the team needs. I’d be fine with signing him to a $3.5 mill per year deal… maybe even up to a $4 mill if he can produce at a .95 ppg pace again.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh and to address your chicken vs. egg question
Brown is the Captain, and they brought in Smyth via a major trade… you don’t trade for a guy like smyth and then place him on your 3rd line. Frolov was the odd man out by default. Again… I’m not going to hold him responsible for that.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine his asking price will go up to $4.5-$5M after Kovy signs though.
Whether he’s worth it or not is debatable, but he’ll probably get the “UFA overpayment effect”.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If he signs in the right situation, he's probably worth it.
As a LW on the Leafs, he’d be displacing Versteeg and Kulemin down the depth chart.
Or they’d move Versteeg to RW… which to me makes more sense. Play Frolov Grabovski and Versteeg as a line, and Kulemin, Bozak, and Kessel… that would look fine as a top 6 to me.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
of if necessary
play Versteeg with Bozak and Kessel, and Frolov with Grabovski and Kulemin… whichever.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
/sigh
i wish
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy Russian/Eastern European connection batman!
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Brown is not a LW. He was moved from his natural RW spot to fill at LW because of the gaping lack of talent on LW beyond Smyth. There was a huge gap to be filled at LW and Frolov could not fill it and this necessitated the move of Brown to his wrong wing.
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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 16, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He actually produced more at even strength
in 08-09 than he did in 07-08… as odd as that may sound.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
woops
I mean the power play… which is something the LEafs need help on. Read the numbers wrong.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 16, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what you want to pay a good third-line player or fifth defenceman.
Found this in Elliotte Friedman’s 30 thoughts. This is a quote from an anonymous GM re: Boogaard’s contract (1.65mil/yr). It still would’ve been very nice to get Lebda for cheaper, but at least we know that Burke is in line with other GMs (either equally crazy or equally sane).
by potvin vs hextall on Jul 16, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
errr, unless the anonymous GM is Burke…
by potvin vs hextall on Jul 16, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That would make quite a bit of sense.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
this is usually what i think of whenever theres a msm hockey report from a "source"
by Death_By_Leafs on Jul 16, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
usually i’d agree, but there are a few people in msm that i like, and friedman is one of them :)
by potvin vs hextall on Jul 16, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
oh definitely,
that was more of a generalization.
mirtle & wysh also seem to use their noses often enough to steer clear of the bs.
by Death_By_Leafs on Jul 16, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If Kaberle and Finger are gone he could be
Beauch – Phaneuf
Gunnarsson – Komisarek
Lebda – Schenn
(whoever)
Schenn could probably move up higher than 3rd pairing… I just wanted to keep him on the RD
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually kinda like these pairings… dont really care which ones are 2nd pairing or 3rd pairing… but each one has a good balance of skating and physicality.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks good on paper for sure. Although a lot of people have Komi with Phaneuf.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I worry about too much pinching.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Komi has a propensity to pinch?
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest… I have no idea, I can’t remember the last time I saw Komisarek skate.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Beauch has a propensity to pinch and he usually screws up doing that…..Phaneuf likes the big hit and can be caught out of position, those two together is nightmarish.
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They played pretty well together the last 6 weeks of last season.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, keep Dion with Beauch. Dion is much better on the right side than the left. Keeps the pairings even, and you could even switch Gunnar with Lebda if you wanted.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Pair a strong DFD with Dion so he can pinch and slap wrecklessly. Phaneuf-Komisarek, Beauch-Schenn. Someone to hit, someone to pinch on both lines. Leaves Gunnarsson-Lebda pretty weak, but they’re lining up against opposition bottom 6.
That is a very weak bottom 2… I’m not saying it couldn’t work, but that lineup front-loads the physicality.
Again, RW is going to blender up these lines anyway, but it’s interesting to think about.
Ugh this all depends on both Finger and Kaberle gone though…
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No way. Both Komi and Dion are RD. Gotta have one with Beauch and the other with Gunnar/Lebda.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 16, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Schenn should get significantly more minutes than Lebda, if only because of the PK and PP2.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t think it’s out of the question. assuming kaberle and finger are gone, he looks like our 6th if the rest of our D return to form /continue developing as we hope, but there’s always the possibility that gunnar was a flash in the pan (my goodness, please no).
or else it could be a case of 5a and 5b (or 4a, b, and c).
by potvin vs hextall on Jul 16, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
http://twitter.com/JeffMarek/status/18706930506
Nashville signs Jamie Lundmark to a one-year, two-way contract worth $600,000 at the NHL level and $105,000 at the AHL level.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
Good for Jamie. Glad he found a job. I wonder if he’ll hit the waiver wire during the year though.
Lots of UFAs going to be pricing themselves out of a job this summer… not nearly as many spots remaining as there are NHL-calibre players out there.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Reason for optimism
This article lists the 25 worst players in the league for taking penalties but not drawing them. Three were Leafs last year (Mayers, Primeau and Orr). Happily, only one is still a Leaf and hopefully Orr will yield some icetime to Brown this year.
More optimism: our five leading takers of minor penalties (i.e. ones likely to cause a PP against) were Orr, Poni, Mayers, Exelby and Stalberg. Rosehill also managed 11 in only 15 games. Not only should our PK be better, but hopefully we’ll be giving up less opportunities.
If our only player in the bottom 25 is our fighter, I can more than live with that. He’s always going to be down there, since his reputation precedes him. But he also kills Senators, so I really don’t care what precedes him.
Ya, it’s not his fights I had a problem with. He really did take some dumb penalties near the end of the season that had nothing to do with fighting.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 16, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
See also: Belak.
An ideal fighter, to me, has more majors than minors.
by The '67 Sound on Jul 16, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Lightning re-sign centre Paul Szczechura to a one-year contract.
i wonder how long it take them to get that name cirrect to the contract
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
One more year!
i know Paul. We played hockey together from when we were 6 years old. Good for him getting another contract in Tampa.
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then you know how that name is supposed to be pronounced?
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
One more year!
Lol. Yes.
Shuh her a. I think that’s the best way to show it phoenetically.
It’s a sh followed by a short u, like how you pronounce the u in the word under. Then hura is pronounced how it’s spelled.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 16, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You're going to be a Doctor?
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by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 16, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
I loved this Doctor. I’m having problems liking the new one.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 16, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked Tennant as well, but Matt Smith to me is doing a damn good job and I have zero complaints. It also doesn’t hurt that he looks good in tweed and a bow-tie.
I like to get banged. Banging rocks together, 140 characters at a time.
by Phaneuf's Rock Collection on Jul 16, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
this must be why I am confused when I turn on Dr. Who. I couldn’t figure out who the doctor was last time because I was looking for Tennant.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 16, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems like the show has gotten a little too “young adult.” I could be wrong.
My favourite Doctor is still Tom Baker (Peter Davidson a close second). I guess it’s the same with time lords as it is with hockey players, the golden years are always when you are about 10-12 years old…
by Leaf in Habland on Jul 16, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The first time you see a naked woman in any form and you think “This is the most beautiful woman on the planet of the world”
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
Yeah, they’re much less hairy now.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 17, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Kovalchuk to Kings is down to details.
Hopefully this gets done so we can trade Kaberle already!
by Leaf in Habland on Jul 17, 2010 1:16 AM EDT reply actions
SHOCKING NEWS
Kovy ends up where everyone godamn speculated he was going to end up in the first place!
HURRY THE FUCK UP KOVY EVERY OTHER TEAM IS WAITING ON YOU.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 17, 2010 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
Every godamn team*
Sorry friends I’ve been drinking.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 17, 2010 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
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