Housekeeping and Kris Versteeg
by PPP on Jul 9, 2010 3:00 PM EDT
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By the time this is published I should be making my way to the airport as I head off to another European excursion. I wanted to note a few things. The first is that last month, despite the Leafs not being in the Stanley Cup Final or doing anything of note for most of the month, was our busiest month ever. We had over 138K visits and 340K page views. Thanks to everyone who drops by to read, to comment, or to write. The strength of the site isn't so much Chemmy and my good looks so much as my, Chemmy's, Karina's and SkinnyFish's good looks. Oh, and the community that contributes so much.
On that note, and I include myself sometimes, I understand that people are obviously frustrated with the recent history of the Maple Leafs. Over the past month and a half I've noticed (and had it mentioned to me on a few times) that there seems to be a bit more confrontational tone. It seems to tend from a few things: people not taking the time to read comments fully or responding without addressing what was written, people taking criticisms of their arguments too personally, and too much sarcasm. I love sarcasm as much as the next guy but sometimes it comes across as confrontational. Keep that in mind. Also, remember that there should be no personal attacks. If you are getting frustrated with someone take my mom's advice: ignore them. They either won't change their mind or aren't paying attention or are trying to push your buttons.
Finally, if you are new, try to make sure that you have the lay of the land before jumping in. It'll save a lot of misunderstanding. If you are not new, remember you were all new once, except for Jared who might have been commenting here before the site existed, so have some patience and be gentle.
While I am gone you'll be living under Jammienism. What does that mean? More summary executions probably and maybe some Chick Tracts. Enjoy!
After the jump, some thoughts on Versteeg from Chicago Bloggers.
First up: Fork Lift from Hockee Night who will be hosting Chemmy on their puckcast Monday night. Can't begin to imagine how many Xs that will be rated.
On the upside, you get a guy with good hands and outstanding puckhandling abilities. He'll stick up for his teammates the best he can, but it's not what you want him doing.
On the downside, he will always want to carry the puck into the zone, regardless of how many people are stacked up on the blue line. He will not, under any circumstances, dump or chip. He will also look at the refs after every slash, spear, whatever. He's the only Hawk who never figured out he had to play through some of that stuff.
You'll have at least one "Goddamnit, Versteeg!" moment in every game.
In fact, Game 2 vs. Nashville sums him up perfectly. He kept trying to carry the puck through the zone, and kept getting stripped. He took a dumb penalty. He turned the puck over. Then with 90 seconds left, he scored the game winner and got first star.
And now SamFels from SBN's Second City Hockey:
Basically, the country-stupid, naive shit eating grin that Kris Versteeg looks at the world through is the same way he plays hockey. He's honestly convinced that he's Mario Lemieux, and that leads him to trying all sorts of shit on the ice. Sometimes, it's spectacular, notice his shorty against Columbus this year where he pulls three toe drags (honestly, who the fuck does that?) He'll always try and dipsy doodle his way through the blue line, and take his fair share of dumb penalties. Fork's right, he never stops bitching at the refs, which costs him.
And he'll frustrate the hell out of you. He'll turn the puck over everywhere, take a lazy hooking penalty after one, bitch. And then he'll kill a penalty and score a shorty. The kid is mad talented, has balls of steel, and if he gets top 6 minutes (with actual Top 6 talent, not what you threw out there last year), I don't think 30 goals and 70 points is out of the question. It's more likely that he and Kessel get in a fistfight at center ice though when one of them hogs the puck. Don't play them together.
What do we need to know about Stalberg? I find him at least a little intriguing.
Ugh. Roy Hodgson?
Yes, Roy Hodgson. Uggggh. Anyway, discuss!
Sam
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they shoulda hired
Roy Hobbs. That kid was a natural.
Unabashed fan of the surprise 2012 Stanley Cup champs
Football I know. There’s no way Liverpool do better than Roy Hodgson at the moment. Besides, he’s got integrity, has a huge amount of experience, is proven at doing well on a tight budget, got Fulham to the Europa League final and everyone in England want’s him to be their uncle. The last point is important, Rafa Benitez is as likable as piles and the media were in no mood to cut him or Liverpool any slack.
Being English, I reserve the right to say stupid stuff.
by London(England)Leaf on Jul 9, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
They don’t call it piles in N. America, I think that probably went over everybody’s head. I think they call it hemorrhoids. We need an English-English dictionary.
Actually I just need to learn how to spell. I sat there trying a gazillion combinations for hemorrhoids but always came up short. Who knew there was an o, two r’s and an h?!
I took a gamble but it didn’t pay off. But I’d do the same again if I had to.
Being English, I reserve the right to say stupid stuff.
by London(England)Leaf on Jul 10, 2010 3:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I sat there trying a gazillion combinations for hemorrhoids
Google.com or Dictionary.com are good friends of mine.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions
spelling errors on PPP? that unpossible!
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 10, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
it’s amazing that Google Chrome does spell check as I type posts.
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
Follow me I'm Boring!
by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 10, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe i shouldn't be
since they were clearly trying to warn us of the bad things, but those reviews made me unbelievably excited about Versteeg.
A mad-skilled cocky player who wants the puck and can snipe? Eff yes.
Seriously, though, you’re getting at least one good NHL player back in taht trade in Stalberg. And he’s cheap, for now, which is the whole point for you. Enjoy him. If he develops some hands, watch out.
Unabashed fan of the surprise 2012 Stanley Cup champs
Let’s be honest, I’m the only female posting, and most of the readers here are male, so the site’s success is clearly due to my good looks, and that alone. ;)
Also, thank you.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 9, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Pictures of me posted on this site – several
Pictures of Karina – 0
Case closed.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
false
my baby picture was the focus of an FTB.
WOOOT!
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 9, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
touche
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
also, here
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
uh, dammit
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 9, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine at least four people have saved this picture and will find some way to abuse it.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Also, Karina, that picture is screaming GET ME THE HECK OUT OF THIS CAR. At least to me. Nice picture, though.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
I thought it said “fart”
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 9, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
easy there tiger
you don’t need to tell us what your Friday night plans are…
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 9, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not one of those four… but if you want to get into BCWW territory… i have a photographic memory anyway.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
I saved it
Into my folder for photoshopping images. I’m sure some nefarious purpose will come along in due time.
Does it have to be a wedding photo?
That makes what 50+% of the guys on here are likely to do with it far more sacreligious somehow.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Check out that sill...
Is that Mahogany?
by CancerousRocket on Jul 9, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
PPP must have hit the booze early today. Could have sworn I read
Karina’s good lookswhich we all know to be a ridiculous statement.
In loving memory of #21 Chris Higgins......I never even got the chance to say "I Love You"
isn’t this getting personal??? Besides. Everyone knows I am hot.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Jul 9, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s true – the evidence is up there.
by Blue and White Expat on Jul 9, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a very good balance of opinions on this site, which I love. Chemmy’s loud and unforgiving while PPP is reserved and empathetic. Karina has gentle anecdotes and SkinnyFish has brash op-ed pieces.
I love every one of you, and am proud to be a Leafs fan alongside you.
by Jo4nny on Jul 9, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This
sums it up better than I ever could. Thank you sir.
And thus marks the timely demise of Colt 45.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I like good players. Phil Kessel Fan Club Member #1 right here.
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I escape definition!
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 9, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
but more hi-tech, I’d say 0W20
"the usefulness of a cup, is in it's emptiness"
by Maniel Darois on Jul 10, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
While I am gone you'll be living under Jammienism.
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…this, kids, is what we call “foreshadowing.”
jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog
"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
Once at some games at which [Caligula] was presiding, he ordered his guards to throw an entire section of the crowd into the arena during intermission to be eaten by animals because there were no criminals to be prosecuted and he was bored
Pension Plan Puppets*
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I love Caligula! Are you going to make Wendel a senator?
Are you balding?
"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."
Caligula Couldn’t Get Enough of That Griddle Stuff
Pension Plan Puppets*
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…and what do we say when something like this happens? “It’s goooood that Jammies decided to do that.”
From here on out, whenever I see “Jammienism”, I will be mentally picturing that sequence in The Wall when the animated hammers are marching across an increasingly diseased and unpleasant countryside. Buckle up kids, this could get rough.
jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog
"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
Nice twilight zone reference.
Unfortunately for your negative portrayal of our glorious leader you will be sentenced to the fun zone for a short period of time.
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Ah, c’mon, aren’t I at least entitled to a preposterously unfair show trial first?
jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog
"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
I’m not falling into your trap. I know what you do.
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Sigh.
At least do this for me: when it comes time to compose my “confession”, don’t dictate it to Jared. If I’m going to claim responsibility for the Kennedy assassination, I would prefer not to mis-spell it.
jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog
"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
You're done.
Misspelled misspell.
Jesus. That gives Jared a free one.
by not norm ullman on Jul 9, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Karina did that a couple days ago, it was funny
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 9, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I will instead give you the opportunity to sell out all 30 of the people who put you up to this so that they can be given a relaxing massage in the fun zone.
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How dare you imply Wendel would end up in the fun zone.
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why not? Wendel enjoys fun!! If Wendel’s there I wanna go to the fun zone.
"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."
Ah! I found the source of our confusion. I bought an improperly translated phrase book.
Please replace “fun zone” with “forced labor death camp” and “relaxing massage” with “cruel death”.
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by Chemmy on Jul 9, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sounds like fun to death!
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 9, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Drop your panties Sir William I cannot wait til lunchtime.
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That’s a mistranslation too.
“Wendel Clark” was supposed to read either “Idi Amin” or “Ernest Borgnine.”
Leaf, the universe and everything.
the entire cast of Ishtar
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Basically what I’m saying is that next week we will perform feats of physical strength followed by a scavenger hunt and there may very well be ice cream*.
* excruciating acute embarassment
Pension Plan Puppets*
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I'LL BE CONFRONTATIONAL IF I WANT!!!!!.......YOUR'E NOT THE BOSS OF ME
Toronto Maple Leafs: Nowhere to go but up!
Is that the baby picture Karina was talking about, or did we just peek at Chris Neil’s child album?
"According to the statistics, Bester outperformed his teammates in every league that he ever played in, and was easily the best goalie the Leafs had in the 1980s. Despite this, the Momesso goal was essentially the end of Bester's NHL career."
http://brodeurisafraud.blogspot.com/2009/10/underrated-allan-bester.html
by BesterThanYesterday on Jul 9, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i love angry baby.
And thus marks the timely demise of Colt 45.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
fierce baby is fierce
A paparazzi snaps actor Cam Gigadent and daughter Everleigh, July 2 2009.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 9, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m new to this site and it is fricking hilarious like 95% of the time, the other 5% is insightful hockey stuff. Really liking the whole thing.
Also I’d rather have one “Goddammit Versteeg!” moment than half a dozen “Blake, what the fuck?!”moments per gam
Don't think, it hurts the team!
Also I’d rather have one "Goddammit Versteeg!" moment than half a dozen "Blake, what the fuck?!"moments per gam
This.
Shero gets an A. Burkie gets a checkmark.
Check out the gams on that steeg
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 9, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The kid is mad talented, has balls of steel, and if he gets top 6 minutes (with actual Top 6 talent, not what you threw out there last year), I don’t think 30 goals and 70 points is out of the question.
Harsh. Harsh but true.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
Ya, that comment should have pissed me off but I was too consumed by 70 points and 30 goals to care.
Considering that for 2/3rds of the season
we were trotting Ponikarovsky, Stajan, Hagman, Blake, and Stempniak over the boards as top 6, and they all ended the season playing in the top 6 somewhere else, I’m not sure I follow the logic of that statement.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I’ll give you Streekniak, but to be fair, Stajan & Hagman were with the Flame(out)s. And Poni sat out some, and was demoted from the 2nd line some. I prefer not to think about Blake.
Shero gets an A. Burkie gets a checkmark.
Stajan Hagman and Poni are all top 6 forwards.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 9, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
sure
but barely
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jul 9, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Some are like 6.4’s but we round down.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions
So… who is gonna go over there and lie through their teeth about Stalberg, thus delaying the inevitable – Blackhawks fans realizing Burke has also fleeced their GM?
Given their situation
it wasn’t a fleecing at all. Chemmy and PPP said so in their podcast, so it must be true!
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
Stalberg isn’t a hockey player the way that Versteeg is a hockey player. If you could combine DiDomenico’s character with Stalberg you might have a player worthy of trading for Versteeg.
I think the best player they got out of that deal was DiDomenico to be honest, and even he is only destined for a 3rd line role. Stalberg had me for a bit but then he lost me. I didn’t see anything in his game other than speed that he can’t fully use on NHL sized rinks that I’ll miss.
Versteeg is a beast.
It was a fleecing.
I've gotta say that's a totally premature
judgement. Put Stalberg on the wing with Toews and Kane? I’ve gotta imagine he’s got more skill going for him than Byfuglien does… so he can’t help but be an improvement on the wing.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Agree, although chances are he won’t be playing with Kane and Toews.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 9, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno...
fine… play him with Sharp and Hossa… is that still going to be a huge problem?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
No, but I don’t see him putting up insane numbers or anything.
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 9, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Define Insane
if he gets 40 points I wouldn’t be shocked.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Ahem.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 9, 2010 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
speaking of old… In other depressing news, isn’t it time to increment your avatar 1967ers?
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Leon Czolgosz!
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 9, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Heath ledger before makeup
Truncated truclence
by Future_considerations on Jul 9, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It was time last season. I had a whole bunch of “43” pics that I found and cropped to fit, but I kinda like this one.
Besides, “Leaf, the universe and everything” doesn’t work with 44.
I was thinking I’d add a second comment on the sig – “the 44th year in the 42-year saga.”
Leaf, the universe and everything.
You should add a “+1” to the bottom of the picture. Assuming the MSM isn’t going to spam 43 as much as they spammed 42 in every article they ever wrote.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
I could put up a wedding shot, but it was carved on slate and doesn’t scan well.
Leaf, the universe and everything.
It’s ok Wrap you know which cruel overlord appreciates your myriad talents.
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You got it, babe.
I am the gif maker.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 9, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Also maker of game threads.
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Wrap Around Curl – You won’t find a hotter hockey blogger on the whole Internets.
I've always wanted to be a PPP Princess. You see kids, you can be anything you want to be; so long as Jay Leno doesn't also want to be that.
WOOOOO.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 9, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
she’ll thrill you with skillz
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 9, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
well, I rock blogging like a hurricane
Article1: "I WANT HER TO BE A PRINCESS! THIS MAKES HER LOOK LIKE A SLUT!"
You put the blog in the blogra blogra Ann
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 9, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Buttons!!!1
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
no she’s clearly not the ONLY female here Curl, and yes you’re gorgeous too…
"the usefulness of a cup, is in it's emptiness"
by Maniel Darois on Jul 10, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It seems to tend from a few things: people not taking the time to read comments fully or responding without addressing what was written, people taking criticisms of their arguments too personally, and too much sarcasm
Only Jared would be a big enough jerk to act like that. He’s a total clown.
My Goal Is To Make Each Comment As Meaningless As Possible
STOP MAKING FUN OF ME
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 9, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
was that sarcasm?
AND CAPS?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
WEBSPLOSION
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Jul 9, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
for Jared
WELL, SO IS YOUR FACE!!!!
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jul 9, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of good looking people
this site is why i can’t wear sweatpants anymore…
well, this site and Archi.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Jul 9, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
and too much sarcasm.
Are you being sarcastic?
Pumps out more male with one thrust of the pelvis than the United States postal service over the last 146 years.
I love your new tag.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 9, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a fair warning
To anyone that doesn’t know me yet, that I don’t have anything serious to say
My Goal Is To Make Each Comment As Meaningless As Possible
But how can we trust that you mean that seriously? Maybe you’re serious all the time!
Don't think, it hurts the team!
"Kneel before Todd!!"
Yes I find myself VERY amusing
Is “kneel before Todd” a Supernatural reference?
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 9, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG I love Supernatural.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 9, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I saw that episode like two years ago, but I still laugh my butt off every time I think about it.
Don't think, it hurts the team!
"Kneel before Todd!!"
Yes I find myself VERY amusing
I’m gonna go watch it now since I have it all on DVD. And the teddy bear in that epi…so amazing.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jul 9, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That bear is champion
Don't think, it hurts the team!
"Kneel before Todd!!"
Yes I find myself VERY amusing
Supernatural is amazing! Who doesn’t like life-sized, alcoholic, depressed teddy bears?
"Our bottom six should be nicknamed The Intangibles." -Plea From A Cat Named Felix
Leafs fan till the end!
by whyevenbother on Jul 9, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Thoughts on Zherdev?
From Twitter:
wyshynski Good gamble then. RT @sbaicker Zherdev’s deal is worth $2 million for one year.
Unsubstantiated for now, but if true I’m more that a bit pissed that Colby Armstrong costs $3 M while Zherdev only $2 M. Was he black-balled by everyone but Philly or something?
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
Here’s the Sarah Baicker article from CSN Philly.
Me: Any idiot could see that.
Mrs. P: You're not just any idiot, you're the most special kind of idiot.
by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Think about it for a second… first off Zherdev was in the KHL last year and has proven difficult to coach in the past (on the basis of what I’ve heard about his career in the NHL that is)… secondly, the Flyers were Stanley Cup Finalists, that just added Andrej Meszaros to their already solid D, and look at their forward corps… it REALLY won’t be hard for Zherdev to look good with those forwards. And that is exactly what he’s banking on – put up 70+ points, cash in a year from now.
I sincerely doubt he’d come CLOSE to putting up anything like that amongst the Leafs top 6 forwards… especially as their 3rd top 6 RW… how does that work?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Oh I forgot to conclude my argument
I think it makes more sense for him to take a pay cut to play in a solid situation in Philly with a strong team, than it does a player like Colby Armstrong to play in Toronto on the 29th ranked team from last year… this contract doesn’t confuse me at all.
It’s easy to attract talent when you make the Stanley Cup Finals… not so much when you finish 29th… DESPITE the fact that we’re the Leafs.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Well, if it’s not equal and he wouldn’t take the same offer with the Leafs, then fine. Just saying that I was on the “Cheap, short term contract for Zherdev” bandwagon and agreed with several on here that it would be a reasonable flyer to take for a 30-goal guy.
He would be our second RW after Phillip though, not the 3rd. If you mean after Versteeg, he’s listed as a LW.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he wasn’t interested in playing for Toronto, but I read that Burke wasn’t interested in him and didn’t make him an offer, so we’ll probably never know if he would have been willing to sign here.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The Flyers are dumping Gagne to pick up Zherdev. That should tell you all you need to know about how highly the Flyers regard Zherdev.
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flyers already had a full roster and were under the cap. Gagne only has one year left on his deal, so it’s not crippling.
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Just realized that’s with Zherdev, but the difference between ELC (800k) and Zherdev (2 mil) wouldn’t cover the -1.4 spread.
you probably don’t have a 13th forward on an ELC. more like a spare part, fill in guy. Jamie Lundmark type. 5-600K max.
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That’s still cutting it very tight. Tighter than any team will really want to roll in to the regular season; if someone lands on LTIR, they’ll need enough cap space to bring someone up as a replacement – that someone might not be a league min contract.
And to be clear, I think they certainly could’ve gone ahead without trading Gagne, I just think they were going to trade him before the Zherdev signing as well.
I don’t think they trade Gagne unless they know they’re getting Zherdev
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zherdev/gagne parallels to kaberle/lebda anyone?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
if they really like Zherdev that much more than Gagne, they’re insane.
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by Karina on Jul 9, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Gagne for Kaberle straight up!
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by blurr1974 on Jul 9, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Note 1: I called $2.5 for Zherdev on the podcast.
Note 2: God damn it Burke.
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Well, at least he spent 1.5 M on Lebda.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
NB: the moral of the story here, is if Burke/Nonis/Poulin isn’t enamoured with you, you can fuck right off and to hell if you’d help the Leafs or not.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Just as a possibility, the fact that only one other GM appears to have stepped into the Zher-doo doesn’t suggest anything? And the fact that it’s only Philly (urp-a-derp) that took a bite doesn’t kinda reinforce Burke’s view?
by not norm ullman on Jul 9, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
well, we know he can only sign with one team, but who knows how many others showed interest?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
At 1 year and $2 million, apparently we should have seen dozens of takers and bidders. After all, this guy is supposed to be a Top 6 forward, points on the board – so you’d think there’d be lots of drooling.
Unless…. there’s real problems with him… and the net upside may not actually be there….
by not norm ullman on Jul 9, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
you may be right. i’d love to hear burke’s take so we know if he had any desire or made some offer.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah we shouldn’t take risks on short term players because _____________________________
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um, well, aaahhh…
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Good quip Chemmy, but what we want is good judgment of individual risks and returns, some short-term, some longer. (i.e. Nobody wants to go back to the worst of Uncle Cliff, in terms of “short-termism” right?) I’m against Zherdev, not against short-term risks in general.
by not norm ullman on Jul 9, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re against a guy who scored 25 goals in 2008 with THE RANGERS signing here for $2M?
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He got 23 goals and 58 points with full ice-time, 82 games, top line, tonnes of PP time – saw lots of Gomez, Naslund, Dubinsky beside him. No heavy checking responsibilities, nada. And that’s what he got – 23 and 58.
I guess I look at that and say, the reports are that he took a lot of nights off, was pretty dreadful defensively, and had no great commitment to his team, and I ask whether I can use that $2 Million to upgrade to someone who can get me 23, play better defense, be a better part of the team. Gagne? Poni? Hell, I’d say a Stalberg is entirely likely – bad hands and all – to get 20. So, with negative defense and taking nights off, I’d say… no thanks.
by not norm ullman on Jul 10, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
100% agree
I am happy to hear he is off the market and he isn’t a Leaf.
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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 10, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not saying it’s wrist-slashing time, but it would really have been a cheap, asset-retaining way to add a 30-goal potential guy to your roster. If he blows, he moves. If he’s awesome, pay day next summer. It’s extremely low risk.
The big ??? is still whether he would have signed here for that deal or not. Even at $3M, until Kabby is moved for someone markedly better, I’ll call it a major missed opportunity.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 10, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Here are the names of Leaf players who scored 58 points last year:
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And at $2M, here are the Leaf forwards who he would’ve cost less than:
Kessel
Kulemin
Grabovski
Armstrong
Versteeg
Bozak (w/ bonuses)
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Stajan scored 57 and Poni 50. Blake scored 63 the year before. All three are treated as dog-shit around here, but folks now want to rave about Zherdev and his hand-fed 58??
But then again, some people here think Torres is good and a top 6 winger and that we should sign him too.
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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 10, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
So you don’t want a player who scored 58 pts for $1M less than Colby Armstrong. Got it.
Our PP sucked and we need a top six winger.
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I don’t want more underachieving non-backchecking body-contact-averse problem-children.
I also didn’t want Armstrong at $3 million. But, at least with Armstrong you know what you’ll get and you know you’ll get it consistently.
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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 10, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah. 29 points.
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I like Armstrong’s upside; on this team I bet he can score 30 or 31.
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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 10, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yikes
on our 3rd line? I think you might be in for a reality check.
If he can hit 20 I’d be surprised.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Colby vs Zherdev 2008-09
Not convinced the goal-scoring greatness of Zherdev and weaknesses of Colby are quite what they seem. Side By Side.
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by not norm ullman on Jul 10, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
meh
i think the last thing a young-ish team like the Leafs would need is a known malcontent with a me-first attitude. no matter how cheap he comes.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 9, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
Burke has a plan, he’s acquiring players with certain abilities. We’ll get scoring from whomever he brings in for Kaberle, and they’ll be someone who fits the plan. I understand not biting on Zherdev.
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by Karina on Jul 9, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't want Zherdev
…. but at the same time…. if he would have taken $2m with the Leafs (I don’t think he would have) I’d have wanted him.
Even at $3m I wouldn’t have wanted him, but $2 is a damn good deal – which I’m assuming he only would have taken with a few teams.
I still can’t believe they’re going to trade/waive(please!) Gagne.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. Yes, the Leafs need top 6 talent, but they need to be a team. Primadonnas can only lead to internal strife in the future. Take risks, not every risk.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 9, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
We need more talk about Brett Lebda bunnies in this thread.
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Well, at least he spent 1.5 M on Lebda bunnies.
Better?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
he spent 1.5 M bunnies on Lebda?
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What? No! He spent $1.5M on bunnies. Know how many bunnies you can get for $1.5M? A SHITLOAD, that’s how many.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
$1.5 million does buy far more bunnies than it does Lebdas
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So then, how many bunnies per Lebda?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose there’s quite a price difference between, say, a Norwegian lop and a Playboy.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
only in montreal.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 9, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I love you guys!!
You all make being a Leafs fan worth it the struggles of the team. Intelligence, good looks, horrible spelling and all, make this a wonderful family to be a part of.
And really I don’t know how muck longer Burke is gonna wait to pull a deal for Kabby. I know he’s looking for the right deal but every other of the 29 teams know this and will seemingly low ball us. Burke can’t be content with really keeping Kabs here, this might go on until this trade window is seconds from being over.
We need goals to come from somewhere and Zherdev would have helped (and at 2mil we all could except his laziness). If Gagne, gets waved we should grab him in a second. He’d look good wearing #12 in blue. Yeah I know I’m saying all the things we are all thinking but still. Its great being apart of PPP Heavy and Kitten Ranch.
by L510 on Jul 9, 2010 8:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
San Diego Leaf Fan Report CommentJuly 10th 2010, 12:29am
Help is on the way. Anaheim’s trade of Eminger (leaving them with four defenseman) in exchange for Voros and Hillier (leaving them with too many forwards) was obviously done to send Bobby Ryan and/or Corey Perry to Toronto for Kaberale and/or Schenn. Bet on this announcement in the next couple of days.
I saw this, too. But they have Sbisa and Fowler coming through the pipe. Maybe Fowler doesn’t make it this year, but Sbisa should. And there are still some free agents out there. Willie Mitchell is a decent depth guy and the longer they wait, the cheaper he’ll be. The only way Ryan gets moved is if they really can’t sign him, but they’ve got some time to figure it out.
by Leaf in Habland on Jul 10, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
What does this mean?!?!?
Shoalts is agreeing with Chemmy? Is that… good?
dshoalts See @felixpotvin, who said Gary made owners a lot of money. Some of them maybe. RT @JackWBowie: NHL also said hockey would work in Phoenix.
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by Karina on Jul 9, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
Time to cash in that retirement plan early! 2012!!!1
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 9, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Aww, I come here to say hi to PPP and he’s taking off to Europe?! Sad face.
Well, here’s a hi to everyone else! If anyone’s awake still.
PPP is going away? Does that mean Chemmy has another fake election then smites everyone who doesn’t vote for him?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
heil mein fuhrer!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 10, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
he prefers the real dictatorships
emphasis on
dick
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by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Jul 10, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
LET THE SPEC END
DarrenDreger
In an effort to squash whatever Bobby Ryan trade rumours still exist. Ducks gm, Bob Murray wants the spec to end. He’s not trading Ryan.
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it wont
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
He probably wants it to end because Bobby’s agent is using it as leverage in negotiations.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh it’s just going to make it worse. I find the Ryan speculation hilarious.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 10, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I just want it all to end and the season to start
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Very true, but the Ryan trade rumours are a nice distraction from 2 solid months of hand-wringing about the Leafs roster.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 10, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
It would all go a lot quicker if Burke would just move Kaberle
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I blame Kovalchuk
my guess is there is a team or two (devils, Kings) that have interest in Kabby but also interest in Kovy and neither is willing to part with anything significant at the moment since their eyes are on the consistent 40 goal scoring prize.
once he picks his destination who ever is left will be open to better returns
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Do the Devils really need any more defensemen?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 10, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
they still dont have a puck mover
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
True, I just don’t want anything they have, well I do, but they’re untouchable.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 10, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
pretty much
but i’m at the point where i’d be perfectly happy taking a fist full of prospects and picks for Kaberle
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Kaberle for Clowe
The FTF guys are all for it now that they “have” Hjalmarsson
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, Clowe would be awesome. Seto would be better, but whatever.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 10, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t want either one
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I’d love to have both, but Clowe isnt worth Kaberle
and Seto would cost more than Kaberle, so nay
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Draft picks!
Man, Kaberle is not going to get us more than Clowe in many other teams in the league.
Plus, SJ is one of the places where you’d think they could be okay risking a 1 year only with Kaberle
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I still think Buffalo is the prime destination (they REALLY need a puck mover, plus the chance of resign is higher than anywhere but Toronto) but Burke is probably sitting on their offer to see if LA or who ever misses out on Kovy ups their offer
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Ya but I hate most of Buffalo’s top 6 (who I’m pretty sure Burke is still targetting rather than prospects or picks)
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed, every single one of Buffalos forwards has a tweak or two that make me skeptical
injuries, consistency, cap hit, etc
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I’d take Clowe. I thought his salary was higher than it is. Setoguchi is going to want too much $$$ as he is an RFA
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Seto will probably earn less than Clowe’s current contract, they are expecting around $3.2M per season
I’d much rather have Seto, but I gotta figure he isn’t being considered as trade bait.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I think Seto is more attractive as he is younger and has a high upside, but Clowe is cost-controlled.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 10, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Clowe has the “big body” too… 6’2", 225lbs, ton of PIM… he’s got the truculence.
Probably not as high-end goal-scoring wise, but puts up pretty decent numbers, good enough for a top 6 for sure.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
That 36 goal season is going to play heavily in any negotiation
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you mean 36 point right?
he was pretty clutch in the post though
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Seto had a 31 goal season in 08-09, but he was playing a ton of time with Big Joe and Marleau (this was pre-Heatley)
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I know. I think he’ll get more $$$, maybe a lot more, than he’s actually worth. That’s my concern.
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Meh possible, that’s one thing SJ might be concerned about too…. might be a good reason for them to trade him instead of Clowe for Kabs…
but seto is 4 years younger, has put up better numbers on average, definitely has more “value”
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the Leafs would be more interested in Clowe. He can play either wing, brings size, and has shown he can produce offense without playing on the Thornton-Marleau line
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I’d do that trade straight up. I don’t know if burke would try for more, but I hope he wouldn’t take less.
I don’t understand these new Columbus rumours at all.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
what new rumors?
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Ugh
That Columbus is looking for a puck-mover… then millions of Leaf fans jumping all over it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 10, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Columbus SHOULD be looking for a puck mover, but most of the rumblings ive heard is they are going to stick with Straleman and Russel
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
andy greene is the only offensive-ish guy they have and I don’t think he’s in that upper echelon of offensive defensemen like Kaberle is.
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this.
but do they want Finger too??
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by Maniel Darois on Jul 10, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Kaberle to the Devils begins with Tedenby or Josefson and ends with Corrente with probably a stop in 2nd rounder land in between
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you’re spot on Jared.
I’ve been toilling with the idea of Beauchemin being on the block too, just not as hyped (obviously) it’s too bad because I do like his play, I just think he still has trade value. To the right team.
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by Maniel Darois on Jul 10, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I could see Beauch being traded back to the Ducks actually, they need someone like him and he’d be the perfect tweener before their kids were ready as he has a couple years left
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I think a few teams need someone like him, had we not aquired Dion I would never have suggested it but I think of our rear guards those two have the most over-lapping skill sets. Clearly Dion is rear to stay soooo. Anahiem is an interesting possiblity
Bob Murray didn’t say anything about not trading Perry…
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by Maniel Darois on Jul 10, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
heh,I wish, nah, it would more along the lines of Beach for Lupul
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 10, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Lupul ould be good, but throw in Kabs and…
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by Maniel Darois on Jul 10, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
all i see is
trading Ryan
I have nothing interesting to say.
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