To Catch A Predator
by birky on Aug 21, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintWhat can I say that hasn't already been said? Dave Fuller, known Habs fan, is a jerk. Whatever. It should come as no surprise that the guy lacks journalistic values considering his bio page on the Toronto Sun's website includes this gem:
Less than a month after Fuller landed his first newspaper role — as sports editor of the Oakville Beaver — two local businessmen were threatening to sue him while a third wanted to punch him out.
But let's move on. You know what I'm going to take away from this? PPP is becoming an asset in the media realm of the Toronto Maple Leafs. This community has grown by leaps and bounds just in the year that I've been around. We have the sort of talent here that would make a newspaper like the Toronto Sun jealous. Sure, we may not have press passes to the next Brian Burke presser; but who needs one of those when we can watch it on the Leafs website? And we don't even need to show a picture of a hot babe in a bikini to get people to read our content. Before long, we'll be seeing PPP on the TSN Trade Deadline show, talking about how that Leafs trade for Rick Nash made perfect sense. Or Chemmy on Sportsnet (sorry dude) yelling at Nick Kypreos and Bill Watters. At some point, these news outlets like Toronto Sun or the Star are going to realize that PPP and other blogs like it are important assets in the hockey community. But until then....sit back, have Mom throw some pizza rolls in the oven, and for god's sake, open a window. That basement of yours is really starting to stink.
The greatest movie trailer of all time and your Saturday links after the jump
There are no words:
GT to Wysh for bringing this to the WORLD's attention
Saturday links:
New DGB. 'Nuff said.
Too early to judge Burke, but the clock may soon start ticking
Leafs HQ with some interesting thoughts on Brian Burke's reign.
12 Burning Questions: Will Kadri crack the squad, and what impact will he have?
MLHS with ponders one of the biggest questions going into camp.
Tomas Kaberle: If you're Dad's not happy, you're not happy.
Vintage Leaf Memories with a good piece on a certain subject in the PPP headlines.
Brian Burke tells us what the NHL will wreck next
Tyler Dellow, aka MC79, gives us his.....uh.....thoughts on Brian Burke backing the World Cup.
Best Forwards in the NHL - Normalizing Corsi
Copper and Blue with more good stuff utilizing advanced stats.
Jayting game schedule / the new girl
Arch's update on the Jayting game.
George Gross: Founding Toronto Sun Sports Editor
Vintage Leafs found some really cool photos of Gross, who was actually Czech.
10 Ways to make hockey even more fun
Five for Fighting has a few thoughts how to make the NHL way more interesting.
If I missed your post and/or you've got a Dave Fuller rant, throw it in the comments.
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I was poking around the internet last night looking for an interesting angle on this whole Fullergate situation and stumbled upon the story of the late George "The Baron" Gross. He was the founding sports editor at the Toronto Sun and how is this for a twist – he was originally from Czechoslovakia. By all accounts, a stand-up journalist and fascinating fellow. Google his name for several links with great stories that surfaced following his death in 2008.
Over at Vintage Leafs, there are a couple photos and a scan of one of his articles featuring Syl Apps.
What’s with
all of the
extra line breaks?
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
I wrote an article listing 10 ways to make hockey more fun if anyone is interested.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions
In all fairness to mc79, I think he is harsher on MLSE than they deserve. I could be wrong about this, but didn’t MLSE oppose the lock-out? I remember reading/hearing from the MSM that the Leafs wanted to accept the 25% salary rollback the player’s offered and save the season, but where basically shot down by the other owners.
As for holding a monopoly on this market: If I was MLSE, and the NHL wanted to move a failing team (which has been getting MLSE money for years) into my territory, I would damn well want compensation from the league for cleaning up their mess.
I think you’re right about MLSE not being one of the hardcore teams during the lockout. Didn’t they propose a, for lack of a better word, “softer” option about 4 to 6 months into the lockout?
You should really put up a comment over at Tyler’s site (it always puzzles me that people discuss other blogs here rather than at their point of origin where the author and his readership can more easily engage in the discussion).
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Im at work most of the time im at this site, so I dont think id be able to join up (and anyway I have a personal policy of not joining new stuff on work computers). Also, PPP seems like a better place to carry on a discussion, though you are right that it doesnt engage his readership.
Also, PPP seems like a better place to carry on a discussion
That may be true, but if you’re going to weigh in on author’s post you really should do so at the original site.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Sam- You’re correct. The big-market teams (TOR, NYR, PHL, DET) were largely in favour of what you called a softer option; one that would effectively allow them to use their resources (money). Ultimately it took no small amount of wrangling (think about how hot dogs are made and you get a pretty good visual) by the small market owners to get the big boys on board (Hotchkiss of CGY was a major proponent).
Before this turns into a “blame Gary” deal, understand that the BoG (his bosses who he is ultimately accountable to) told him in effect “this is what we want and will do (lockout), and if you’re not on board we’ll fire you right now (2/3 majority required- vote would have been at least 24-6 and as much as 26-4) and find a commissioner who will do what we want”. If Gary ever says a word about anything, understand that the Board of Governors has given him the green light to do so.
The Maple Leafs- making me certifiably insane since 1985.
by torleafsfan29 on Aug 23, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't tell if a compliment or not... but Cox is giving shoutouts to PPP again
DamoSpin
Sounds like PPP didn’t wait for access on Kaberle get. A little bit of ingenuity and hustle produced something unique.
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
what? no love for the girl friends?
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 21, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, The National Post has recgonized Down Goes Brown is one way to maybe possibly get 2 or 3 more people to buy the National Post.
Each of the Toronto papers has had an interesting response to the changing media landscape.
The Star, which is unionized, has gone through several rounds of staff buyouts/layoffs. If you read the print edition you’ll notice the many writers have multiple by-lines and there’s loads of content from (often foreign) wire services.
The Sun, which is not-unionized, is down to a skeleton staff and is attempting to create its own news bureau across the country (they’re calling it “QMI”). As a result, the sports department doesn’t even have copy editors and they’re likely to assign reporters from just one or two of their papers to cover a big event (NHL draft, NHL awards) and then syndicate their copy across all of their outlets.
The Globe has decreased or eliminated pay for freelancers and I know one editor who got a buyout, but other than that, I haven’t seen or heard much in the way of changes at the G&M.
The Post has also dramatically downsized their editorial staff and don’t have as many writers dedicated to specific beats as the Star or Globe. The Post’s sports section is the best in the City, but the rest of the paper is more than a little thin.
A very long way of saying what the Post has done with DGB is terrific and likely the way of the future for the MSM: find good content, snap it up, and leverage it to bring more eyeballs and click throughs to their web presence.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
by mf37 on Aug 21, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
When there is so much free good content on the internet (yes, you have to look for it and be careful) I can understand the decline in interest with the print media.
I think the baby boomers will be the last generation to rely on newsprint to get their information (and many of them are getting more of their information from online sources.)
I could easily see more major news outlets relying on their internet content to sell ads as the print media slowly loses relevance.
The progressive thinkers will make the leap, and others will fail.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 21, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
If this topic is of interest to you (news migrating from print to online) I’d recommend you read this piece in the Atlantic, How Google Plans to Save News.
When you look at the cost of newsprint and production, it’s a no brainer for news outlets to make the shift from print to bytes.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
I like newspapers, I much prefer that to reading it all off the web.
If i didn’t have a 1.5-2 hour bus ride home i owuld probably think differently, since I wouldn’t have time otherwise to read the wole paper.
funny enough, the one I bought most of the time was the sun, but only because it was 1/2 the price of the Star and my local paper is nohting but ads with a couple articles squeezed in where they can. (That and the people, reporters, and columnists in st. catharines are idiots)
I never cared for the Post or the Globe, and I hate that the Star makes their sports section seem bigger by tacking on the classifieds.
I also like news papers in that you can sit anywhere and read them and not get heat burns on your thighs (or is my laptop jsut running too hot?)
When smartphones, e-readers and tablets become as ubiquitous as cellphones there will be little need for newsprint (or thigh burns).
My best is by the time this occurs, advertisers will start paying online rates that are comparable to print rates, giving news corporations yet another reason to abandon newsprint.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
McSweenys compares newspapers to ereaders (hilarious)
And here’s the Clay Shirky serious smart view.
Thanks for the link
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 21, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Bahaha
I didn’t even notice the new tag line for the site until now.
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
What does it say?
I can’t see it on the mobile site :(
by BCapp on Aug 21, 2010 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lolz
Today's tears will become tommorow's rain.
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by Future_considerations on Aug 21, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it just me or does it look like todays Dave Fuller article lifted Sleza’s translation of the HockeyExpressen piece on Gustavsson? At least this time he doesn’t give HockeyExpressen credit either
The lesson learned is why write when PPP can do it for you. I read his other article today, either he wrote or stole it from the Bleacher Report, but either way his best work comes from this site.
by YakovMironov on Aug 21, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
the real interesting question is:
When was the last time Dave Fuller came up with a story of his own?
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
que…?
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
Remember kids it's down the road not across the street
His translation wording is a bit different this time, but I’d assume your post was still his source.
by YakovMironov on Aug 21, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
i have affected to the contents of toronto news paper? for a finnish girl, that’s kinda cool…
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
Remember kids it's down the road not across the street
Have any aspirations to get into journalism?
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
Wait a minute?
So Fuller speaks Czech AND Swedish?
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
or he has way more advanced google translate than rest of us
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
Remember kids it's down the road not across the street
Hopefully they have more advanced lawyers than the rest of us too.
by YakovMironov on Aug 21, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
wait, scratch that, I hope their lawyers suck as bad as their editorials.
by YakovMironov on Aug 21, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
sundin on ice
this should be from the Kenny all star thingy (via puckarinen)
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
Remember kids it's down the road not across the street
by sleza on Aug 21, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
/siiiigh
so dreamy
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 21, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
you can watch the game by paying about 7 dollars*!
*i do not know what the current exchange rate is so it could be less. or more…
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
Remember kids it's down the road not across the street
To see Sundin play again Priceless!
by CanadianMaple09 on Aug 23, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know-
A few more pics of bikini-clad women here would probably bring me around more often. Is anyone volunteering, btw?
I am Mikhail Grabovski's smirking revenge.
I’ll see about sweet talking / black mailing Fergus.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
what ever happened to that “girls of PPP” calender idea?
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 21, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe JfL should volunteer. They sell man-thongs in London, don’t they?
I am Mikhail Grabovski's smirking revenge.
by kidkawartha on Aug 21, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be the “for the ladies of PPP” calender
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 21, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
just to clarify
the “hot babe in a bikini” thing isn’t completely off the table here…is it? I mean, as the site grows, there’s always the possibility to add a section like that.
Right?
This is my signature.
by blurr1974 on Aug 21, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Rec’d for hope.
I am Mikhail Grabovski's smirking revenge.
by kidkawartha on Aug 21, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
you had me at “Hot Babe”
Today's tears will become tommorow's rain.
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by Future_considerations on Aug 21, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a vision of Phoebe Cates
coming out of the pool in a Leafs jersey, a la Fast Times at Ridgemont High
In case anyone didn't see it
Bill Sweatt is now on twitter.
Before letting him have it, read through his tweets, he attempts an explanation of the non-Toronto signing through tweeting specific people:
@ginner93 that actually means a lot, most Leaf’s fans are livid with me… I didn’t even do anything… Very classy on your part
@AndyPin89 this is for all Leafs Fans, I never turned down anything. Just wanted to wait to see how things shaked out with their trades
@AndyPin89 Then Burke yanked the deal. If he didn’t there is a possibility I could have been a Leaf today
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
Some non-PPP members (I'm assuming)
are really letting him have it in a unclassy way. I’m kinda glad to get another side to the whole thing.
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 21, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, didn’t we offer him league maximum anyways – or am I pulling that out of my ass?
verbeauty!
by A Lindros Jaw on Aug 21, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
As per Jared's comment below
Financial terms were never disclosed, but Sweatt’s agent mentioned that Leafs gave a “generous offer”.
Seems like Sweatt (or his agent) wanted to see what happened with the (I can only presume) Kaberle trade before seeing if he wanted a future there. Then they signed Mueller and removed the offer.
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 21, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Burke plays hardball, and really doesn’t appreciate when you try to leverage other deals against him. I could’ve told Billy that would happen.
I just hope it doesn’t come back to bite us. /shrug.
Burke offered him a (as his agent admited) “generous” offer. Sweatt’s camp rejected it, pretty much saying they wanted to test the waters (the fact that he has a brother playing for a different teams system, and that he eventually signed there over 28 other teams shows shows that he was probably strongly considering it) and then, instead of waiting to see if a open spot in his roster would ever be filled by a kid who, may or may not come around, Burke went out and signed a UFA who was probably strongly being persued by other NHL teams and had its own window of opportunity that was closing (Marcel Mueller).
Is Sweatt taking some unnecessary flack for his decision? Sure, but it is hardly surprising
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 21, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
/stares at Bill Sweatt
Today's tears will become tommorow's rain.
My twitter! http://www.twitter.com/tangerinedream9
by Future_considerations on Aug 21, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
@EJHradek_ESPN NHL confirms this rule change: Regulation/OT wins (shootout Ws EXCLUDED) now will be first way to break ties in the standings. Columbus GM Scott Howson had proposed this tie-breaker rule change/adjustment at the GM Meetings in March.
If I'm losing an argument, I ask myself "What would a real journalist do?"
Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it."
I’m sure they’ll balance it out by bringing back glow pucks and signing a 20 year TV deal with Telemundo.
by YakovMironov on Aug 21, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Better rule change…
Remove shoot outs or make shootout wins worth 1 point and all losses (OT, Shootout, regulation) worth 0 points.
You will see teams hustling for that win.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 21, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
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