Bobby Ryan...can he be acquired?
by LeafNation on Aug 25, 2010 10:34 AM EDT
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PrintEverything I keep reading about this guy emphasizes his desire to stay in a Duck uniform. Seems like the negotiation issue is term...he wants 3 years to bring him to UFA status earlier while the Ducks want longer term.
You can't blame the Ducks for wanting to lock this guy up and Bobby really doesn't have any leverage as he is pretty much stuck with the Ducks unless they decide to trade him (to which I believe the GM has said would not happen). Although I am a little confused as to why he just doesn't sign a 3 year offer sheet with another team which undoubtedly would be matched by the Ducks in order to retain him. The only thing I can come up with is given that the Ducks will match, the other 29 teams simply feel there is no point?
So can we acquire this absolutely perfect young power forward who has a similar if not more impressive start to his career than Phil Kessel?
Given the above the only way is via trade and even if we did want to sign him to an offer sheet or it made sense to do so we don't have the draft picks to make it happen (1st, 2nd & 3rd next season). The Ducks are undoubtedly weak on the back end and any scenario would certainly have to include Luke Schenn. This begs the question, would you rather go after Bobby knowing the price is a potential Chris Pronger type player for many years to come? Knowing our ridiculous depth on the back end is it worth moving Schenner?
Schenn alone wouldn't even complete this deal. I would think another forward prospect...possibly Hanson? and a 2nd round draft pick would be needed to make this happen.
Under hundreds of different scenarios I wouldn't want to move Schenn. I believe the guy has a great amount of potential and envision him as an outstanding shut-down defenseman with a little bit of offensive flare for a long time. But considering our depth on the back end and not to mention big bad Keith Aulie waiting in the minors (a possible Schenn replacement?), the idea of Bobby in a Leafs uniform is too good to pass up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 25, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
A million times this
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 25, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
blurr says
“I don’t want a trade,” Ryan told the newspaper. “I’m not asking for a trade. I want to be here in Anaheim. This is where I want to be. If it comes to a situation where there’s heads butting, then I guess it would be best. But I am not looking for a trade. I have no intentions of being traded. I love it here and want to remain a Duck.”
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
To further elaborate
With $10M in capspace, over $6M coming off the next season due to retiring players, and a 23 year old 30+ goal scorer needing a contract there is no way they give him up.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
Conspiracy theory.
Ducks are moved to Toronto, therefore he is playing in Toronto. Just not for the Leafs.
by happiergilmore on Aug 25, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions
Not. Gonna. Happen.
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Good to see you take the initiative to write about what you want to discuss.
Having said that…nope. Anaheim would be dumb to trade him and Ryan seems happy to play there.
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Anyone can be acquired if you offer up enough (except maybe Crosby and Ovechkin).
Bobby Ryan = Luke Schenn and/or Nazem Kadri (if or, that includes package of picks/prospects + Lupul coming back).
Geno = Schenn + Kadri + Bozak + Versteeg + something else (maybe with Gus for Fleury)
Steven Stamkos = Schenn + Jonas Gustavvson + some combo of Bozak / Kadri / Other prospect(s) / 2012 First / Other picks / Roster Player / Money (probably Malone) coming back
Drew Doughty = Schenn + Gunnarson + Kadri + D’Amigo + 2012 through 2015 firsts + something else + money coming back.
I agree
In theory, the Leafs will eventually be able to make an offer the Ducks would take. However, no deal that the Leafs would want to make would satisfy the Ducks which is why it won’t happen.
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I think, in the Leafs position, the cost of the asset (ie Bobby Ryan) is too detrimental to the long term health of the franchise.
Were the Leafs in a better position, (say a Pens, Caps or even Flyers type of team) with equal parts youth and veterans, the argument could be made to sell off some of that future for a player who will help them “win now”.
Which is to say, no.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why I am continuously shocked that Nashville has gone after either Neal or Ryan. Offer sheet them, or offer up Colin Wilson and threaten an offer sheet (for Ryan, anyway). They have crazy prospect depth as is. They are literally a Bobby Ryan away from heavyweight status. I know they are short on funds, but at some point you have to spend money to make money.
unfortunately for Nashville...
you have to have the money to spend too
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think GMDP wants to keep his job.
Chris Burton tells me though that their investor issue will clear up soon.
by red army line on Aug 25, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm I’m not sure, we may need to add a 6th or 7th rounder for each of those deals, maybe conditional… that would really seal the deal.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 25, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Which of those would you take if you were Murray/Shero/Yzerman/Lombardi?
Keep in mind, if these players are being shopped then other teams are going to pony up huge (and if you were going to trade why not start a bidding war). The Rangers have already offered up any 3 out of their 4 best prospects for Stamkos and got shot down. This is the Leafs winning an implied biding war. I also took into account that some of these guys are faces of the franchise. It’s also a completely hypothetical and ridiculous exercise, but fun.
So Crosby for Finger, and Ovechkin for D’Amigo1!
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by torleafsfan29 on Aug 27, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
change of thought....Corey Perry
Agreed….they would be crazy to move Bobby, but given their forward depth perhaps a similar package could be put together to acquire their other great young power forward. But that seems overly optimistic as well.
Perhaps the same package I had proposed earlier…Scheen, Hanson & a 2nd for Perry?
why are we all about trading Schenn? Why?
Someone PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY LUKE SCHENN IS ALWAYS POPPING UP IN THESE “SCENARIOS”!?!?!?
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Because people think that at the age of 20 with 140 games under his belt that he’s a complete waste of contract.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
Watching the hits compilation from this season where Schenn repeatedly just throws people to the ice with a straight arm made me so excited for the season. It also made me realize that with more muscle mass and age he will be destroying people in the future. I want to lock him in a room with footage of Stevens until the start of training camp.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 25, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
…and “New Noise” by Refused on repeat
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought that was assumed. I’ve been tempted to mail a copy of that album to Phaneuf more than once. Phaneuf pumped up on New Noise and the Deadly Rhythm would be apocalyptic.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 25, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Say what?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 25, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I figured, but yes he needs a copy of that album, I doubt he has one.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 25, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s uh, 20 lbs heavier than last year.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
Yea, that’s what I meant, it was poorly worded though.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 25, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
No no no … it’s because his slapshot sucks, silly :P
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 25, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe because he is the only thing of value we have that doesn’t have scoring potential?
Personally, I think he is worth more to us than anything we could get in a trade.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 25, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
So if we were offered Bobby Ryan for him you would turn it down because he’s worth more to us than anything we could get in a trade?
Come on guys, you can’t have it both ways. Either we have nothing of any worth that would make the ducks surrender THE GREAT BOBBY RYAN!!!1, or nobody has anything of worth that could make us surrender THE GREAT OLAS!!1 If they were traded, BOTH teams can’t have been fleeced.
Perry will be harder to get than Ryan, but he is better.
by red army line on Aug 25, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
So…who could possibly be moved?
Kaberle is staying.
Schenn isn’t being moved.
Beauchemin eats huge minutes.
Komisarek can be a beast when healthy, with a modified NTC.
Phaneuf is the Captain.
Gunnarson could be an absolute beauty.
Finger has little value.
Lebda won’t be moved.
My vote goes to Beauchemin, if it comes down to it. The question is, who could he realistically fetch with a throw in prospect or two?
besides the fact that i’ve hammered away at the idea of trading Beauchemin, he isn’t going to net more than Kaberle, and Kaberle couldn’t net anything. Outside of Kadri, we don’t have any other high end prospects. Beauchemin and two prospects not name Kadri aren’t going to get the Leafs a young goal scorer.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
In that deal we traded a 2nd line LW who has scored 20 goals three times, a 55-pt 2nd line C who’s only 26, and and 26 yr old offensive defenseman who actually outscored Phaneuf this season. We gave up more than people think in that trade.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
I’m a Flames fan. If I could turn back time…I’d do it in a heartbeat.
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The Leafs got the best player in the deal, but it’s not like the Flames got a bag of used pucks and a dupliskate sharpener
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True…but we got players that do the same thing as players we already had. Not saying the Leafs didn’t give up anything, but to this day…still hate the deal for Calgary.
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Sutter was drunk. But I don’t beleive in using the Phaneuf deal as evidence for anything. If we want Bobby Ryan, we are paying what I mentioned above and not a penny less.
…just saying, anything can happen. Christ, look at the Thornton deal as well? Sometimes these GM’s are freaking nuts.
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Mayers = HAHAHAHAHA
Stajan = Good player, but not integral to our future
Hagman = Solid player, but not necessarily the best fit for right now
White = Best guy we traded, I’ll miss him, but I think this might fall under “selling high”
Also, we got Keith Aulie.
That was the backbreaker for me…why was Aulie needed in that deal?
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Just thinking…if. Not saying it should happen.
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
First of all
Luke Schenn is never going to be as good a player as Chris Pronger. Sorry kids, but that is not happening.
Second, Bobby Ryan can not become a UFA at the end of a 3 year deal. He will only be 26 and only have 6 seasons on NHL experience. Neither one meets the requirement to become a UFA.
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he’ll be better than Adam Foote. I’d argue he’s already better than Foote in his prime…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Bizarre to this guy. Two time Stanley Cup winner, Olympic champ, warrior. If Schenn = Foote in his prime, that’s pretty damn good.
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s a whole bunch of team awards you’ve just rattled off.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Which, I believe…Foote was integral to.
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Foote was more integral than Mario Lemieux in the Gold medal game? Or was he more integral than Chris Pronger.
I’m not elevating Foote to Pronger-esque status here. i’m looking at him as a decent defensive d-man. I just think Schenn is already better. Put Schenn in front of Roy and behind Forsberg and Sakic, and I wonder what the numbers look like.
Foote was part of a great team. He wasn’t the engine that drove the team. He was a very good defensive d-man. I just don’t get why that makes him somehow special…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s not get crazy here. Of course he wasn’t Mario.
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not saying Foote was god’s gift to hockey, but he was long considered one of the best defenders from 95ish – the lockout. To think that Schenn is above that level right now blows my mind.
If Schenn was that good, Burke wouldn’t have traded for Phaneuf.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Schenn and Phaneuf are two different skill sets. I realize we all think that EA sports dictates player types in the real world, but Phaneuf is NOT a defensive defenseman. Phaneuf was Kaberle’s replacement, not Schenn’s…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Burke didn’t trade for Phaneuf because of some preconceived deficiencies in Luke Schenn’s game, he traded for Phaneuf because he assumed someone was gonna pony up to his asking price for Kaberle.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, he’s Dion cussing Phaneuf, nuff said.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 25, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not my point. When he was interviewed about the deal, Burke was asked why he made the move. He said that everyone agreed they needed an elite defenseman. If Schenn was already so good, they wouldn’t have felt that way.
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…and how the hell do you plan for someone like Dion becoming available?
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Foote also made team Canada, as a defensive D-man, who didn’t put up any points. Maybe Gretzky’s opinion was skewed by the team Foote played for, but he was a very solid defensive d-man.
Schenn didn’t make Team, Canada nor was he in the running.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Aug 25, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
how old was Foote when he made team Canada…?
oh, and Schenn did play for the world jr’s Team Canada. Twice. Once more than Foote. That does count for something.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Schenn is also much much prettier
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 25, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
30-31 yo. Best offensive output of his career that season too (2002-2003).
Olympic sqaud > World jr’s. No age constraints on Olympic squad. Genuine best of the best. World Jr’s selects the best under 19, only. You can’t select from the entire pool of talent, the way you can with an Olympic squad
Foote made Team Canada olympic squad 3 times.
I can’t say Schenn, right now, is better than Foote in his prime. I hope he gets there. Anyways…as a peace offering -BOZAK!
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 25, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
in a nutshell, yup.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
WAT?
He played in the same era as Scott Stevens. Foote is no Scott Stevens. How about Lidstrom? I seem to recall he was pretty good too. Oh, and Niedermayer, and Rob Blake, Derian Hatcher was an absolute beast in the mid 90s as well.
Plenty of better defensive d-men than Adam Foote.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
From 94/95 – 2000, Foote was one of the five or six best defenders in the NHL.
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From 94/95-2000
Here are ten better d-men
Lidstrom
Bourque
Pronger
Stevens
Niedermayer
MacInnis
Leetch
Chelios
Murphy
Zubov
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
take out Bourque, MacInnis, Leetch, Chelios, and Murphy and I’ll agree.
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Yea, the others are more offensive, but if I had to pick between any of those and Foote on my team, I know that it wouldn’t be Foote.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 25, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Pronger during that time period? Maybe i just don’t remember him that well.
Also maybe take out Zubov as well.
remove four HoFers (and a surefire 4th in Chelios)…and you’ll agree?
that’s kind of my point.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Bourque, Chelios, and Murphy were all already in their mid 30s and on the downswing in their careers. Foote was in his mid 20’s and the guy on Colorado’s defense.
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EVEN IF you put Foote at the end of that list, there’s no way you could put Schenn ahead of him. No way.
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Bourque was on the downside of his career, and still better than Foote.
Chelios was consistently at or near the top of the heap. Equal parts nasty and skilled. I’m showing my age here, but there was a time, and it would have been in the mid 90s, when Chelios was arguably in the top 3 d-men in the world discussion.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
in the early to mid 90’s sure. But from when the Nordiques moved to Denver until, say 01 or 02, Adam Foote was an elite defenseman. Better than Bourque, Chelios, Murphy, etc in those years.
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no
he wasn’t.
seriously. there is no way Adam Foote was ever considered an “elite” defenseman.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
so was Ed Jovanovski. What’s your point…?
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He was actually on it three times 98,2002, and 2006.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 25, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok
define elite, and show me how Foote can then bump the 10 names I gave you down the list.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s not a definition, that’s an opinion.
I would define an elite player as being the best in the league at what he does. being an irreplaceable and integral part of a team. Consistently being mentioned as a candidate for individual awards at his position.
I don’t see how Adam Foote fits even one of those criteria when I’ve already given you ten players better than him, and I left out Rob Blake, which would make 11 guys easily above Foote.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
how long is that list? how many Elite players can there be?
you make it long enough and Kris Versteeg is elite
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 25, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s tough because Foote doesn’t have the offensive numbers to compare to those guys, but from 1996 – 2003 he was the top defenseman on two Stanley Cup winning teams. He played on two canadian olympic teams and a world cup of hockey team, being pulled from the deepest group of defenders in the world. From 1998-2003 he averaged over 25 minutes a game on one of the best teams in hockey. I doubt Colorado wins either of those cups without Foote.
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“From 1998-2003 he averaged over 25 minutes a game on one of the best teams in hockey.”
And Schenn just isn’t there yet – on one of the worse teams in hockey.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Aug 25, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Schenn is 20, and just finished his second NHL season. He can’t even buy a beer yet.
at 20, Foote played his first NHL season, with 46 games. The Nords put up 52 points that year and finished 21st out of 22 teams. Only the expansion Sharks were worse.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He can buy a beer in Toronto no problem…You’ve been out of Canada too long :P
“he’ll be better than Adam Foote. I’d argue he’s already better than Foote in his prime…”
He = Luke Schenn. That’s what I’m disagreeing with. I don’t think Schenn is already better than Foote in his prime.
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 25, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
You said Schenn is already better then Foote was in his prime, unless I read it wrong.
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 25, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, you said yourself a few minutes ago we shouldn’t compare Phaneuf to Schenn, as they are different types of players. Why now are you trying to compare Foote to Leetch or Niedermayer, who are offensive guys?
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How about Stevens then? Or Derian Hatcher?
Both were heads and tails above Foote during that same time span.
And, I think you’re reading my comments incorrectly. I never said Foote was terrible, just not as good as he’s been made out to be. I think Schenn’s ceiling is higher than Foote’s, and at their same age, Schenn is better than Foote was.
I never meant to imply his ENTIRE career was comparable to two years of Schenn’s. I don’t think I ever did imply that either, but it is what it is.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No actually you said “I’d argue he’s already better than Foote in his prime…” Not “at age 20 Schenn is better than Foote was”
by scrambles the death dealer on Aug 25, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
no
actually i never "said’ anything.
I typo’d. the curse of working and multitasking.my bad.
Still, Schenn is better than Foote, and will continue to be so. I’ve not seen an argument that disputes that. Foote playing in front of Roy, with Forsberg, Sakic, Blake, Bourque etc. definitely tweaks his image. We could only be so lucky as Leafs fans If Schenn has the same problem .
Secondly, Adam Foote was never, even in his prime , considered an elite defenseman. I’m sorry that I can’t agree with that, but I’ve just never had that recollection of his game or his contributions at either the NHL or even Olympic level.
Just my two cents.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That is not what you said. You said Schenn is better than Foote was in his prime. That’s why we’re even having this discussion in the first place.
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Who said Foote was better than those guys? But he was, judged to be, one of Canada’s seven best defenseman…twice. Schenn isn’t even top 15-20 yet, ballpark anyways.
by TheBurnward on Aug 25, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Colorado won 2 cups with Foote on the team. Both times he wasn’t even the best defenseman on the team.
In 1995-96, Ozolinsh was on the team.
In 2000-01, Bourque was on the team.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
comments like this make me think you’ve never actually watched hockey outside of what you saw on Coach’s Corner in between Leafs games.
No wonder you’re so high on Foote, he’s the prototypical Cherry player.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No need for insults bro, it could just be a personal preference thing. For what it’s worth, I respected the hell out of that Avalanche team…Joe Sakic is my boy. I watched them a lot, and always loved Foote’s game, more than Ozolinsh.
that’s not an insult.
Ozolinsh was a great d-man. Reinvented himself after leaving SJ as a purely offensive d-man to become an all around player. Saying “HAHAHAHA @ Ozolinsh” shows some ignorance towards the discussion at hand I think.
I could have just as easily said “HAHAHAHAH @ Foote” and left it at that I guess.
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
All Ozolinsh did was win… and put up big numbers.
He was really good.
by The '67 Sound on Aug 26, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Ozolinsh went nuclear for the 5 seasons he played with the Avs scoring at a .76 PPG pace as a defenseman. I remember watching the CF series against Detroit and he was nuts.
Scored 19 in 22 in the playoffs the year they won the cup.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
Here’s the question though. If you asked Joe Sakic which player was more important to the team winning the Stanley Cup, who do you think he would say?
Patrick Roy or Peter Forsberg
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
Milan Heyduck
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 25, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Suter
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
I like that comparison better…
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by blurr1974 on Aug 25, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Man have we ever been having some good hockey discussions today. First the “Does Stevie Y win the Offseason GM Award” one, and now the “Adam Foote: Awesome or Overrated” discussion. We should have a discussion like this every day until the rookie tournament starts, it would really help the time pass.
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Praise baby Hey-Zeus for hockey talk
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