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PPP Edit: Linked the official press release. It's an AHL move which is why no Leafs beat writers saw it coming. Andy Strickland broke it as far as I can see. Good on the HockeyBuzzard.

Could be a way to get a contract off of the team's books or maybe Burke hated the thought of someone else having a defenceman.

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one less SPC……..MOAR free agents

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by LeafFan1989 on Aug 27, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

MOAR DEFENSEMEN!!!!!

lol agreed I want to post this at TSN cause the comments are facepalm inducing. But that would require signing up, far too much effort. I see he was picked 22nd overall and is only 23, I wonder what his potential is. Never can have too much depth I suppose.

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by Redonred on Aug 27, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel the same way – facepalm inducing comments but I am far to lazy to sign-up.

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by The Meatriarchy on Aug 27, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice deal

Clear out 2 filler roles for one (probably) filler D, but who has a much higher upside if he can finally put everything together.

by lordosis on Aug 27, 2010 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Lashoff likely won’t turn into much but Berry and Giliati certainly wont turn into anything worthwhile either, so atleast we a getting rid of a contract. Good trade.

by Brad Ackerson on Aug 27, 2010 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

addition by subtraction. Me likey

by sodonis on Aug 27, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is Lashoff’s profile at Hockey’s Future for what it’s worth http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/matt_lashoff

by Brad Ackerson on Aug 27, 2010 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would tampa trade this guy (for nothing)? He seems like he could actually be an NHLer one day (even a bottom pair guy).

by samspade on Aug 27, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

LebdaLebdaLebdaLebdaLebdaLebda… becomes LashoffLashoffLashoffLashoffLashoff?

by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 27, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Raw Charge:

This move can also be seen as a sort of salary dump. Lashoff’s contract for 2010-11 is a one-way deal, he makes $550,000 playing in the NHL or AHL. With no guarantee that he will make the NHL squad in Tampa… Well, sending him elsewhere seemed like it made sense



The move clears out some of the back-log in on-the-cusp defensemen in the Lightning system, and a contract tied to a player that very well might not make the team.

by Brad Ackerson on Aug 27, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The move clears out some of the back-log in on-the-cusp defensemen in the Lightning system, and a contract tied to a player that very well might not make the team.

I was just wondering… shouldn’t that end as: “…and two contracts for two players coming back that very well might not make the team.” I mean isn’t that usually the rule with salary dumps – you have to take something you don’t really need (like in this case the extra AHLer) as the cost for a salary dump?

"There's been four different Cup winners the last four years, and I got one of them (Anaheim) and it was a fighting team. We're playing it that way regardless." - B. Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs GM

by BlueBuds on Aug 27, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the guys we sent have AHL salaries… Lashoff only has a one way deal, so he gets paid $525,000 whether in the NHL or AHL.

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by Karina on Aug 27, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ding ding ding

Say what you want about MLSE… but they’re willing to pay a guy 500,000 to play for our minor league team. The 2 guys going to Tampa combined will make like 100,000.

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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there any hope this is preliminary to getting rid of some pieces of the league’s most expensive defense with the 2nd worst GAA?

by DaveDaytona on Aug 27, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

We already traded Toskala.

by samspade on Aug 27, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bingo.

The defense core itself is fine if our goaltending is a least hovering around league average.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Aug 27, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

To answer your question though, Dave, I don’t think this is a sign that Finger will be moved / stashed on the Marlies. This seems more like helping Tampa out (by taking on salary), freeing up an ELC, and picking up a prospect who will increase the competition for ice-time on our young Marlies defence corp (i beleive this makes it Aulie, Blacker, Mikus, Lashoff and… I forget, someone help me out.)

by samspade on Aug 27, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finger? ;)

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by Karina on Aug 27, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phil Oreskovic

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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 27, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was released wasnt he?

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by Redonred on Aug 27, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s not on the Leafs’ reserve list.

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by mf37 on Aug 27, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

400th ECHL player to play in the NHL. No contract atm

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by Redonred on Aug 27, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes he was.

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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

AHL

i’m gunna go out on a limb here and say that this guy is not gunna see anything more than middle of the pack AHL minutes this season…a D-man with some NHL experience to help our real young guns on the back end.

There’s always that chance that he’s put into a package with another NHL D for a forward, but im not holdin my breath for that deal hehe

"i get paid for the practices...i'd play the geams for free" - Tim Horton

by Frat Pack on Aug 27, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

This trade: TB Salary Dump + Leafs’ need for SPC room = AHL d-man.

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by mf37 on Aug 27, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Tinfoil time:

I think that this may also be the kind of favour Burke likes to do so he has a chip to call in somewhere down the line.

Also never hurts to help out a new GM by doing something that’s irrelevant for you, but can help him cut payroll a little and get into his good books from day 1.

by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 27, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If someone could point me to a move where Burke cashed in said chip I might be willing to buy this…for now, I’ll just refer to this as the tinfoil option.

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by mf37 on Aug 27, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya…technically wasn’t it a “tinfoil option” when we took Olaf Kolzig and that other random defenseman a couple years ago?

"i get paid for the practices...i'd play the geams for free" - Tim Horton

by Frat Pack on Aug 27, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasn’t that for help in the draft… re: moving up? O’goodtimes!

"There's been four different Cup winners the last four years, and I got one of them (Anaheim) and it was a fighting team. We're playing it that way regardless." - B. Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs GM

by BlueBuds on Aug 27, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

4th rounder that we defaulted for buying Frogren out of his SEL contract.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 27, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

sooooo then really it just ended up being a show of good faith thing in the end.

but good call, i forgot it was as high as a fourth rounder

"i get paid for the practices...i'd play the geams for free" - Tim Horton

by Frat Pack on Aug 27, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

that deal took just enough salary off the books that Tampa qualified for revenue sharing.

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 27, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

memory lane

you remember when trades were just about talent for talent? hehe

Clearly i gotta step up my research game a bit cus that’s a really interesting bonus in that trade…thoroughly impressed with the insight.

"i get paid for the practices...i'd play the geams for free" - Tim Horton

by Frat Pack on Aug 27, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

at the time there were some concerns that Burke basically took the salary for players he had no intention of ever using and bought a draft pick – which he did.

But it helped a southern NHL team in turmoil get revenue sharing, so I think the Board of Governors looked the other way.

To make it a true ‘hockey deal’ the Leafs sent a career minor-leaguer back the other way.

Good times – I hoped to see more like that, but I guess the situation needs to be just right before those deals can actually take place.

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 27, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trading two pretty much useless players for one player who appears to still have some potential isn’t exactly my idea of a favour.

by Brad Ackerson on Aug 27, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

550,000 > 65,000 + 62,500

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get the money
dollar dollar bill, y’all

by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 27, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only we could make this kind of deal on a larger scale….

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by Karina on Aug 27, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burke clearing space to allow Hanson to be signed under the total contract limit? Moving two, adding Lashoff = 49 i believe

by Polecon on Aug 27, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

bingo!

i hadn’t even thought of Hanson…that’s a great call…knew the move was to free up a contract but i didn’t know who it might be for…think you hit the nail on the head here

"i get paid for the practices...i'd play the geams for free" - Tim Horton

by Frat Pack on Aug 27, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great point

Hadn’t thought of Hanson. That could very much be it.

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by PPP on Aug 27, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was already in their 50

according to capgeek
Hanson is slot 49; they still have 1 more spot to sign a player.

Heelllo Bill Swea- uh… I mean… Step right up, Joel Champ- huh…
(shrugs)

by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 27, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

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by PPP on Aug 27, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

bubbly is still unsigned I think

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Aug 27, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he'll stay that way

too fat for EC Salzburg, heading back to patty roy.

(link is in german, but if you translate it don’t tell fuller)

by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 27, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the past 15 seconds, I’ve gone from ‘Who the fuck is Tim Brent?’ to ‘Who the fuck is Matt Lashoff?’

I think this is progress.

I also think that this not only frees up a space so we can stay under 50 total contracts, it also frees up spots at forward on the Marlies for the Dale Mitchell/Stefanovich/Kadri/D’Amigo influx next month.

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by article1 on Aug 28, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

next month

sounds so much better than next year/ season

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by Redonred on Aug 28, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I’d have sworn I had posted this yesterday… weird.

And They Shall Know No Fear.

by i2strange97 on Aug 28, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

two people did, you were second. Thus, for the sake of clutter and clarity, one was removed, and one was bumped up.

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

And They Shall Know No Fear.

by i2strange97 on Aug 28, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just really wanted to post that.

And They Shall Know No Fear.

by i2strange97 on Aug 28, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Title posts with pictures next time.

So people can shrink the picture if their computers are slow.

There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.

by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn Canadian blogs and their “rules…”

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by i2strange97 on Aug 28, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

SBNation is American. Other than that, excellent insight.

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by Wan Ihite on Aug 28, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok. This went the opposite way I wanted it. (No Pictures In This Comment)

I’ll just go now. Thanks for your American hospitality.

And They Shall Know No Fear.

by i2strange97 on Aug 28, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chemmy is American

You may be taking Jared a little too seriously

by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Three people did at around the same time so I deleted the two with the fewest comments.

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by PPP on Aug 28, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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