Maple Leafs Sign Clarke MacArthur
by PPP on Aug 28, 2010 1:16 PM EDT
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PrintBrian Burke has signed unrestricted free agent Clarke MacArthur to a one-year deal according to Alex Tran who saw it on LeafsTV. Good thing for us Jared also was watching LeafsTV and can confirm it. Also, Nick Kypreos is the first to confirm it on Twitter that I saw. You can guess which one of the three I trust the most. [Update: here is the official press release from the team.] The deal is for one year at $1.1M so it is a pretty low-risk move for the team.
From the press release:
In 81 games between Buffalo and Atlanta, he registered a career-high 35 points with 16 goals and 19 assists. In 2008-09, he scored a career-best 17 goals while playing in 71 games for the Sabres. The 6-0, 191-pound forward has played in 208 career NHL games with Atlanta and Buffalo collecting 44 goals and 44 assists for 88 points along with 129 minutes in penalties.
MacArthur is probably best known for his part in one of the weirdest arbitration awards ever. James Mirtle took a look at Atlanta's unique approach to the process:
The two sides had failed to make progress in negotiations leading up to the July 21 hearing, and Atlanta’s recent acquisition of Andrew Ladd had, in management’s mind, made MacArthur expendable.
When it came time to meet with an arbitrator, the Thrashers simply asked for the award to be presented immediately, based on the player’s demands, so they could then walk away from the contract.
That’s how a third-line forward who had 35 points landed a $2.4-million (all currency U.S.) award, one the hockey world has been puzzling over ever since.
The other interesting part is that as was noted in the comments to the Lashoff fanshot by Polecon and in the post on the trade, this deal was made possible by Burke's trade which opened up an SPC slot. I'll have more from those that knew MacArthur best as the day goes along.
Die By The Blade's season ending wrap up shines a light on how Sabres fans viewed MacArthur:
Thumbs Up: For the second consecutive season he did just enough offensively to make people feel he had potential. He scored 17 goals in 2008-2009 and he finished with 16 goals this season between Buffalo and Atlanta. He seemed to become a more physical player this season as well. I don't think of him as a gritty player like Adam Mair or Paul Gaustad but he seemed more comfortable in the corners and won a few more battles this season.
Falconer18 of Birdwatchers Anonymous had a short view of MacArthur and was less than impressed:
MacArthur is a classic tweener. I'd call him Erik Christensen II: a talent tease who shows flashers of skill, but not enough skill to play top six and not enough physical presence to earn big 3rd line minutes. Future star in Swiss League.
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Brian Burke has signed unrestricted free agent Clarke MacArthur to a one-year deal according to Alex Tran who saw it on LeafsTV. Good thing for us Jared also was watching LeafsTV and can confirm it. Also, Nick Kypreos is the first to confirm it on Twitter that I saw. You can guess which one of the three I trust the most.
Me right??
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes
Actually :)
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I would have loved to see MacArthur’s face in that meeting. I think he may tear the Thrashers apart this year.
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As well as Buffalo, WOOOOOOOOO!!!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
sweet
here’s a goal from our new guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x64TvAZfaDY
Here are his stats
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=69005
To take the optimistic view, I hope we get the 2008-09 version of him- 17 goals, 14 assists, and 56 penalty minutes in 70 games. Projected to an 82 game season, that works out to 20 goals, 36 points.
In his split 81 game season between Buffalo and Atlanta, he potted 16 goals and 19 assists for 35 points total.
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by Peter de Chatham on Aug 28, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
What I like about those stats is that he has produced in the playoffs (Jr and AHL, but still). He strikes me as one of those guys that becomes very annoying for the opposition come playoff time because he’s the one who gets a goal when the top line is facing a shut-down.
Good to see we have some secondary scoring. Now about that primary scoring…
by Leaf in Habland on Aug 28, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
What I find really intereesting
Is the difference in salary between MacArthur and Armstrong given how similar their point production has been over the last couple of years
One was signed on July 1st, the other was basically September 1st.
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by article1 on Aug 28, 2010 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s only $1.9m
His intangibles aren’t that good.
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Hey!
Army’s intagibles are as good as almost anyone else’s
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure.
The bad news is, he’s dead.
The good news is he won’t count against the cap.
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So if Jeff Finger is dead, his contract won’t…
I have a devious plan.
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by article1 on Aug 28, 2010 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but when he does hit…whoa man….its usually, well usually kinda dirty
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Bingo…
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Armstrong plays better 2-way hockey than MacArthur does, for sure. Not 2ish million a year better, but there’s no real question that Armstrong > MacArthur, excluding dollars.
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thats exactly what i’m trying to say though. Attaching dollar value to skill, is Armstrong really worth more than 2 million more than MacArthur?
Either way i love this signing. MacArthur’s point totals have increased over the last 3 years and at 1 year 1.1 mil there is not much that can go wrong.
I’m just trying to say that simply comparing dollars to points is not looking at the full picture – defense still matters. I’d be tempted to argue that for those bottom line roles, defense matters a decent amount, too.
I’m meh on this deal. I’m more happy with the fact that it’s a one year deal rather than the actual dollar value. I’ll absolutely be thrilled to be wrong, too.
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agreed, look:
MacArthur’s stats:
http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.cgi?3565
2009-10 TOTAL BUF/ATL
GP:81
G16
A19
Pts35
(+/-)-16
Pts/Game0.43
Last season, MacArthur had 15:36 average minutes per game, with a 10% shooting percentage.
Armstrong:
http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player-pn.cgi?2526
2009-10 ATLANTA
GP 79
G15
A 4
Pts 29
(+/-) + 6
PtsPG 0.37
Armstrong had 14:37 minutes per game last year, and a 14.9 shooting percentage, so his offensive potential is probably better. And his plus/minus is waaaay better.
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by Peter de Chatham on Aug 28, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
bottom six
Got no complaints about this signing, he brings that toughness Burke loves and he’s got a wee bit of offensive bite to him BUT all in all we just got another bottom six winger….so who gets bumped off the chart?
we’ve got Armstrong, Sjostrom, and now MacArthur battling for third line winger minutes with Orr and Brown as the tough guys on the fourth line. One of the third line possibilities is gunna get bumped down, and we know Colton is golden soooo did this signing just relegate Brown to healthy scratch status?
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assuming
I say “battling” for effect…Armstrong has his spot no question…and might even get bumped up to 2nd line duty but i’m going with this assuming that a young gun (Kadri) gets the call for a top-6 role and Colby is kept in the bottom-6
thought i’d clear that up hehe
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Johnny Mitchell 4th line?
Leafs camp this year is going to be a high intensity place to be with all the position battles going on
no kidding hehe….but ya, i think Johnny’s gunna get his shot centering the fourth line, i was looking more at the winger competition which is gunan be all teh more intense cus just look at who’s competing….scary for whoever’s playing us cus these are really tough guys battling for minutes
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frat pack - look at 67 sound's post about "top 6 bottom 6"
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2010/8/19/1630507/what-do-the-06-07-ducks-tell-us
I’d actually throw in MacArthur on a second “sheltered” scoring line, centered by Grabovski, or Kadri if he makes the team.
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by Peter de Chatham on Aug 28, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
good article
i actually read that a while ago, good call on referencing it.
I just dont know if i’d go with MacArthur on the sheltered line…you gotta think that spot right now is going to Kulemin or Versteeg with the other spot going to a young guy like Kadri or Grabbo gets moved to the wing.
Maybe i’m wrong, maybe MacArthur gets bumped up, but even still i think Armstrong for his paycheck AND size get bumped up first to that sheltered scoring line.
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but the whole point
is that Armstrong has the defensive abilityh (+6 over last year) to be on that important “first” checking line. He’s going to anchor it, and if he’s good enough to be a solid anchor for it, he’s worth the three million.
MacArthur is filler until D’Amigo/Caputi are ready to take his spot at that Left Winger position. Right now they’re not ready to start, but we need the goals.
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by Peter de Chatham on Aug 28, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough
that’s a good call on Armstrong’s role, i hadn’t thought of that angle…you’re probably right, MacArthur will get the call on that second scoring line until one of the kids shows he’s ready…lets them develop in the AHL together till we need them like Bozak did last year (kind of hehe).
convinced me, nicely done hehe
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And with scoring 16 goals before, we could get lucky, catch lightning in a bottle and see him put up 25.
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I'd say he tops out at 20 max
but yeah, he has the potential for some scoring. He potted 17 goals in 71 games in 08-09, so that works out to 20 for 82 games.
Overall, throw Kadri into the mix if he’s ready, some more scoring from Kaberle in a contract year, and Phaneuf now that he’s captain, and…
wait for it…
PLAYOFFS!!!!!!1
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by Peter de Chatham on Aug 28, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, you get a guy like that with a playmaker like Kadri and a few more minutes per game than he’s had in the past? i’m not gunna put numbers out there cus i’ll get ahead of myself but we could be looking at a solid contributor offensively, you’re right
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Lets not start writing Kadri in to play yet. Remember, until proven otherwise, Bozak and Grabbo are the top 2 centres on this team
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It’s almost September….time to be completely irrational. And pray that I don’t have another Jones Soda tell me to “lower your expectations” prior to the season opener.
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Jones Soda?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a delicious pop with messages in the cap that often has advice or predicitons on them. I had one before that first game against Montreal last year and it told me to “lower your expectations”.
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ah, i’ve had jones before, but i never knew about the advice dealies, always just chucked it without checking
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
wing spot?
always bin talk about moving Grabbo to the wing…just saying hehe Kadri is still only pencilled in in my books, no worries
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the guy’s main issue, it would seem, is consistency and that he likes to take games off every once and a while. Lets hope Captain Caveman whips him into shape
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Captain Caveman: Your body is puny!!!!!!!!!
it is a little boys body.
bulk the f*** up Kadri!!!!!
and he did, and it was good.
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by Peter de Chatham on Aug 28, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree. I think that’s a good spot for him.
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I’d say a third liner that will do spot duty depending on injuries.
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disagree
He’s the Left Winger on 67 sound’s “line S”
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by Peter de Chatham on Aug 28, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
That’s what I mean. Going to have to memorise the letters in that post!
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i thought it stood for "sheltered"
both work…
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by Peter de Chatham on Aug 28, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I still like to think of lines in the typical 1,2,3,4 fashion
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heh
Second Scoring Line
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Hey, with Versteeg and Grabbo on the Second line, the Leafs may actually have a second scoring line!
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I KNOW!
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THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS!!
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Thats what the Jays arer for....
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Agree.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
was there today: 5-4 baby, WOOOO!!!!!!
although downs was all kinds of crap today.. should have stayed 5-1
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 28, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually like this signing
It takes away the flexibility of the extra SPC, but he will fit in nicely in the bottom 6 and could play more minutes if called upon
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Yeah I like it too. Hopefully he can bring a good scouting report on how to beat Miller.
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step 1. Have iginla pass the puck to crosby
by sodonis on Aug 28, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
as long as it ends in profit, it’s all gravy
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Stalberg had the secret sauce on beating Miller
I hope he taught some one his juju before he was traded.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott Gomez will run Miller for you. He did it before, and i’m sure he’ll do it again.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 29, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
His advanced stats from last year are nothing to drool over, but I’d rather see him putting in 3rd line minutes at this point before Caputi or one of the other kids.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Aug 28, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Could buy one of the kids more development time.
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and then we get the women
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Tell me you’re joking
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he is jokingly playing the card i played on him for using the feminization of a player name for insult purposes
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I saw that you put somebody in their place the other day.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub8NeH_eQ8k
Watch at the 18 second mark.
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Not worried
maybe the defense is weak but those goals look nice. you can teach anybody willing to learn to play better D but nobody has the magic formulas to teach goal scoring.
Kulie – BOZAK – Kessel
Armstrong – Grabbo – Versteeg
MacArthur – Mitchel – Shoestorm
Orr- ???- Brown
still a spot open for Hanson
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kadri or D’Amigo pump Mitchell to the 4th.
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yeah, it’s possible, but as it stands now, I don’t see either of them knocking anyone I put down off the roster, same goes for Caputi and Mueller, they are gonna need to beat out NHLers for roster slots
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't
that nice though; having those guys as probably NHLers and now they are looking at 4th line or AHL.
they don’t like it they better damned well work their ass off and earn it
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Different story
Hanson was picked up originally as a center prospect but got moved over to the wing last year for a bit before being moved back….his spot in the organization is naturally as a center so he could take hold of the third line if he steps up.
Don’t count him out just yet just because we got another winger.
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both hanson and MacArthur can play both center and wing
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
From the mouth of Rick Dudley himself
“If I put this player on waivers, would anyone claim him?”
Yes…Brian Burke.
I don’t know if it was MacArthur’s play or just money.
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by Black ice in Alabama on Aug 28, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
Rick Dudley is also the General Manager of Atlanta. And he traded for him.
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remember all those good trades and moves Dudley has made?
no really, do you? cause I don’t
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Byfuglien for Morin and a 1st.
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I’d rather have Morin and a first
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad. I forgot to say that it was an awful trade for Atlanta.
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Dudly is terrible at his job, he should have shipped Kovy at the start of last year
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That was still the useless GM before him. I forget his name.
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Wadell
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It's the money
you’re using that quote slightly out of context.
"My theory is very simple," Dudley said. "If I put the player on waivers tomorrow, would he be claimed? If the answer’s no, then in all likelihood, that’s a contract I wouldn’t want."
- Globe and Mail (Mirtle), August 5th
He was saying 2.75M was too much for a 15 goal scorer. (I’m looking at you Grabbo! KIDDING)
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
err
$2.4M
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Grabbo also had 50 points.
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didn’t know MacArthur played center, i checked on that earlier and only saw LW, so thanks Jared…puts a bit of a different spin on it i guess….but still, i agree with you, there’s still a spot for Hanson in the bottom 6
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3rd line LW is my guess, interchangable with Cheese as a 2nd liner depending on need of 2 way play or offense
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
MacArthur is prolly more of an offensive threat
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exactly, and cheese is better two way, both can muck it up, and irritate the hell out of other teams too
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think Grabo might be dealt.
Potential top six: Kulie, Bozak, Kessel – Versteeg, Kadri, Macarthur.
Is this a one year wonder to let Caputi and others develop on the Marlies?
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
caputi has probably done all he can at the AHL level, saying that playing with other future leafs isnt exactly terrible
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think Grabo is going to be dealt.. Maybe in a package with Beauchemin?
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
To get Nash from CBJ?
Schenn+Kadri+(insert above average forward)+1st+2nd
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Im not sure, I leave the trade speculations to HFBoards. Beauchemin and Grabovski would get us a nice return, but nothing close to Team Canada’s first line Winger…
Okay.
But let’s say they ask for an offe. Put one out there. I’d make that id they want 2nd to go with it.
While this signing does make grabbo a little more disposable (not much), unless a 1st line center is coming back this still leaves a gaping hole in the second line pivot spot if Kadri isn’t ready
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
if Kadri isn’t ready
Everyone is forgetting this. What if he doesn’t blow everyone away at training camp?
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Agreed.
We’re not looking at a legit centre and I think Grabbo has shown he is. The stats don’t show him replacing Grabbo in anyway.
not now
i honestly think a package like that will happen, but it won’t be until the trade deadline…give Kadri development time and we’ll have a better feel of what we need in return. Then we’ll let our kids fill in any holes to end the year
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Makes sense, I never said that trade would happen in the next week, but I definitely think that trade could get something decent from a team that needs a solid blueliner deep in the playoffs.
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
On what basis do you have for this trade?
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So none.
Gotcha.
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But there are teams that would love a versatile D-man like Beauchemin, who can eat minutes.
As well as Grabovski who has lots of offensive potential. Just questionable attitude.
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
thing is, until proven otherwise, the Leafs need em too, and I don’t see a team offering up enough to justify losing both those pieces
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He just signed a huge extension, he is pretty well untouchable.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course there are, one of them is the Leafs, we have them, and they aren’t going anywhere.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hypothetically speaking..
These two players could : 1) bring in a power forward winger and 2) open up a spot on the blueline for Lebda/Aulie/one of the many other prospects
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Gunnarsson and Aulie on the 3rd pair.
thumbs up
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand why people are calling for more trades. The team has yet to play a game, yes we have identified some needs, but we have no idea if our current roster can fill them. Maybe Caputi plays lights out to start the season, why not just be patient and wait and see?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
<3 YOU
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Right back at ya.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not as fun.. But I will admit you are right.
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be
willing to play this season the talent listed but you are silly not to listen if a offer for an elite player comes up.
You are even sillier to think an offer will come up.
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Well
that’s the point isn’t it. Specualtion is a necessary quality to predictions. Predictions breed choices. Choices make selections. Selections make a team.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Still don’t understand, what’s the connection between speculation and reality?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Trades.
You look at what you have and speculate on what might be available. If you only look at your own roster yo’re screwed. You have to examine everyone else and see what might be available to improve your team. One name:Gretzky
Carlton the Bear and a box of Timbits.
Can we trade Cox and Berger?
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by torleafsfan29 on Aug 30, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant speculation by us, on the internet, I mean I understand the concept of roster-bation, but what does it add to your experience as a fan?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Lots
if you’ve been waiting. There you made me say it. I’ve been waiting too long. Now I’m going to cry in my beer. But at least I’ll wear my shades because the future looks bright.
There’s no crying on PPP!!1 Well that’s a lie, there is a lot. But my question is, if Grabbo sucks and you want him gone so bad, why would other teams give us anything of value for him?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Not me. I love his play and attitude.
I’m just saying if someone calls and offers you have to be willing to consider it. Short of time machine you only the ability look forwrd with hope. Backwards is nsotalgia.
No one is saying not to listen to offers, but the point is why randomly suggest trades involving players? There are plenty of other things to talk about.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
That nonsense is saved for hfboards, hockeybuzz or MLHS.
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sorry if it seems like we are jumping on your back here. It seems you just joined PPP (welcome!). This entire summer has been a gongshow for talks of potential trades. We (myself included) have thrown around trade ideas like its nobody’s business, and in these last days of summer it seems everyone is a little tired of them.
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Yea, I meant no ill will, just exacerbated.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda like
time to play real opponents and end the camp scrimmages. i coach high school hockey and get to line juggle all the time. Try it some time.
Yes indeed. My last
comment was related to the regular Nsh dreams here. I’m looking frowrd to the dailys in September. I think the Marlies will be a beast on guys who won’t make it.
I’m going to have to watch a whole lot more Marlies’ games this year.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
Good point.
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Depends on
my alcoholic intake. Nothing to Burke but evrything to a dreamer which I think is a good way to live.
You know what you’re right.
Ok guys, lets line em up. Who could we offer for Toews? How about Richards? Ovie? Crosby? I mean if a chance for an elite player came up, we have to offer something right?
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Sure, but this is all made up.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Internets: no place for logical thought or real expectations… its a digital fantasy island!
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For those who wanna watch
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlp=8470667
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Clark highlights
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Clarke
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by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope. All of MacArthurs goals on NHL.com
I gotta say, I LOVE THAT FEATURE
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Interesting to note the times of his goals. Most are either early in a period or late in a period; I only saw two goals scored around midpoint of a period. I don’t know what that means other than a hope its good.
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I love the feature too
but I can’t watch anymore of MacArthur’s goals because I can’t stand hearing
MacArthur SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I just watched them all. Every single one scored within 6 feet of the goal, and with the exception of one breakaway rush, all bouncing in garbage rebounds from other people’s shots or passes. I mean, they count and we’ll take them, but Phil Kessel this fella is not.
I'm pretty sure
That Dave Andreychuck lived and breathed that motto
Scary
“Every single one scored within 6 feet of the goal… all bouncing in garbage rebounds from other people’s shots or passes.”
Andreychuk had this down to a science. He was a master.
by general borschevsky on Aug 28, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
This is something the Leafs have not had since Roberts left.
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by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
MacArthur went for a higher price at the deadline than Lee Stempniak. So at the very least we can say its an upgrade on Stempniak’s legendary third line prowess?
by Grabovski's better than you think on Aug 28, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
The one time I want Ubiquitous to be here
He isn’t. That jerk
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damn sabres fans
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
TYLER MYERS IS OVER RATED AND TERRIBLE!!!
/waits
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
RYAN MILLER HAS A NORMAL FACE.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
that is an insult to normal faces everywhere
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
he had a good rookie season, his stud status is still in the potential zone
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I watched Myers at the world championship thing this year ..he was awful
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by Future_considerations on Aug 28, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
and he did look terrible against the leafs for a few games! It’s a fact!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s no Schenn thats for sure..heck he may not even be a finger..
/waits
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by Future_considerations on Aug 28, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo is an extremely clean and nice city and their ownership lets them spend as much money as they like.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I <3 Tonawanda
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by Future_considerations on Aug 28, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
CMAC Penalty shot goal
Creepy soundtrack though!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0BmYE57XzU&feature=related" >
I don’t know about the rest of you lot, but I can’t wait to see what the Leafs get for MacArthur at the tread deadline.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You really think the Leafs are going to treat this as a pump and dump?
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You really think the Leafs are going to treat this as a pump and dump?
No.
It’s the only thing I could think of posting about a 4th line, one year, $1M UFA contract.
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so our Second Sheltered Line talks are completely out of whack? This is the one signing of the summer where i have NO idea where he fits on the team.
I’ve never understood why anyone posts hypothetical line combinations.
Wilson scrambles his lines like a short order cook working a vegas breakfast buffet.
Injuries are unavoidable and the opposition often dictates who comes in and out of the bottom half (my guess is Brown gets most of his starts against more physical teams).
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I’ve never understood why anyone posts hypothetical line combinations.
i think they do it for self assurance. They get to see how our team looks and how it will stack up against other teams. It could also be a video game thing. As for recent signings, its a meter stick to see how good he is on an unproven team. I agree though, nobody ever takes into account injuries.
I’m just glad we have some more depth on the team with a decent cost
I have no issue with listing depth by position, it’s the line combos I don’t get.
It could also be a video game thing.
I think you’re on to something.
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Yea, as far as I’m concerned line combos and trade proposals are both moot.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
ive always loved the trade proposal thing. I would love to see evidence of just ONE trade proposal on any website that was correct.
Even in video games half of the trade proposals i make never go through
Yeah I basically traded Ian White and Matt Stajan for Dion Phaneuf in NHL 10. That was a laugh.
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If
you had proposed the Phaneuf trade on these forums on January 30th, you would’ve been called an idiot and told to go back to Hockeybuzz. Something to consider when people get all crotchety about those who dare to propose trade possibilities on, gasp, an internet message board. :)
1/1.35billion is not a batting average I’d be proud of.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And it always starts with someone talking about a player they don’t like or feel is superfluous. Like Burke will be able to pull one over on other GMs. The Phaneuf and Giggy deals did not help this.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
the thing is most people just see deals like this from one side, they dont think about how Calgary got some much needed offense and the Ducks cleared up some much needed cap/salary breathing room.
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yea, there are very few “steals” and they usually involve some player who has yet to see time in the NHL and breaks out.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
we’ve been on the robbed end a bunch of times..
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Lately out of lack of ability to evaluate a goaltender from JFJ
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
the Phaneuf deal is clearly a steal right now from a talent value stand point, but just how much of a steal will come to a head when/if Dion can regain his offensive game
the Giggy trade was an even swap of problems
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If Ian White grows a beard though, we’re fucked.
verbeauty!
by A Lindros Jaw on Aug 28, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
sjostrom+playoffs = Sjobacca
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sjobacca.
I love this name so much I want to take it out back and get it pregnant
rec’d for righteousness.
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by Biff Carrington on Aug 28, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
ha ha rec’d.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
how White does.
We were all pretty much in agreement that White was awesome but was playing really close to the top of his potential, while Dion’s hasn’t been fully realized.
If both keep playing the same as they did last season, White was actually the bigger steal from a point-production standpoint. (maybe not as much smashulence and captainy goodness though)
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
scrambles his lines like a short order cook working a vegas breakfast buffet.
what was that, “glutton for punishment”? that was a cool episode
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 28, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Was inspired by an old New Yorker article about Vegas egg men.
Still, a good egg, honestly cooked, is what brings in most customers, and they eat them in staggering quantities. Last year alone, the cooks at the Tropical Breeze cracked well over a million of them…on an average day, the Tropical Breeze consumes some three hundred pounds of bacon alone…As a woman at the local Culinary Workers Union put it, “Egg cooks are worth their weight in gold in this town.”
“O.K., here’s the lineup,” he said. “We’ve got Martin, the omelette man, and Joel on over-easies. Rene is doing pancakes and French toast—he’s so strong, he just pushes it out—and we have Debbie on the eggs Benedict. I’m not used to watching women cook in high-stress situations, but she’s surprised the shit out of me. She kicks ass. Frankie will do the steak and eggs, and Edgar will fill in for whoever is taking a break.” He grinned. “You can’t hurt these guys. I mean, I’ve been all over the country in all kinds of kitchens. I’ve worked in New Jersey. I’ve worked in L.A. I thought I saw the best, but these guys? Nasty.”
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I don’t think he is a 4th liner. 3rd line that can fill in on the second line. He is still young. He is going to be a useful member to this team
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3rd line that can fill in on the second line
He is also still young. It’s only for a year @ 1 million. If he can take his game up a notch he could outplay his contract, which we all say is important.
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He may outplay his contract, but that’s a low bar.
If the team’s success is dependent on MacArthur raising his game, it’s going to be a painfully long season.
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A useful member to the team is not the same as being dependent on him raising his game.
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Let me rephrase: if he’s on the 2nd line, it’s going to be a painfully long season.
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Fair enough.
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Why do you say he’s 4th line?
According to this he was mostly on ATL top two lines (from what I know of ATL). And he played a bit with Armstrong, too. He’s not 4th line.
by Leaf in Habland on Aug 28, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No way.
You don’t 16 goals out of a 4th unless it’s the 1980’s. I f he can play C the ngives Kadri time to get ready.
I f he can play C the ngives Kadri time to get ready.
MacArthurs play will have NO BEARING on what happens to Kadri
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all three probably start in the NHL, no turn taking needed
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
kadri might crack the 2nd scoring line
in which case Grabbo moves to either 1st checking or 4th
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by Peter de Chatham on Aug 28, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
BOZAK!
Sorry but Grabbo needs the 2 spot. i’d let Kadri go to Ricoh unless he blows up the pre season scoring.
Glen Metropolit notched 16. He’s playing where now?
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Are your questions a rhetorical device or do you not have access to google, hockey reference, nhl.com?
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Rhetorical device. MacArthur is gonna be a third liner who should score 10-15 goals. He’s not good enough for the 2nd line, he’s not bad enough for the 4th line.
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Exactly what this team needs.
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MacArthur is 25, how old is metropolit?
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I forgot that no one here has google or hockey-reference.
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TELL US THE INFO FROM YOUR MIGHTY BRAIN OH SMARMY ONE!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the full caps no spelling mistakes. It’s a nice change for you.
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gotta keep em thinking
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Must you always be snarky?
I know there is a magical instrument called “Google” I use it quite often at work.
I know he is 36.
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If you know the information, why ask?
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Rhetorical device?
Dude you’re being mean more than bitter today.
by Leaf in Habland on Aug 28, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks.
Maybe I’ll change up the user name.
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giggles happy fun time blog of fun?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m thinking the new tagline could be, “Home of the exclamation mark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
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As long as you dont add in a “1” at the end. I think eyebleaf has that trademarked
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I would never take eyebleaf’s “1”
The man is a legend in the world of punctuation that denotes emphasis.
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how about “every SECOND word IS capitalized TO create CONTRAST and IRRITATE the READERS”?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
everything line in under 140 characters? Alternatively cApS?
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
lets not get goofy now
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
how about "every SECOND word IS capitalized TO create CONTRAST and IRRITATE the READERS"?
Only if you randomly use the HTML blink code
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but of course
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
You my friend may have the hottest internet site in the year 1998.
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spinny e-mail animated gifs!!
also, pokemon.
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 28, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The point of the comment was that you brought up Metropolit who also scored 16 goals and, ironically enough, you asked where he was playing. Metropolit is 36, MacArthur is 25. There is a BIG different there.
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Read the thread: the question was – name a 4th liner that scored 16 goals.
I answered Metropolit.
The question wasn’t “Name a 16 goal scorer who’s 25 years old.”
If MacArthur is back with the Leafs in a year, we can get into more detail. My guess is he’s this year’s John Cullen.
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13 goal scorer, out of the lineup as often as in it. Lost every fight he started.
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So 13
is a lucky number. 13 goals parttime and who cares about the fights. Brown has that with a side of cheese.
Armstrong only really fights to defend himself after a questionable hit. Brown is a meh middle weight
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I answered Metropolit.
You also threw in the question “where is he playing now?”
I assumed that to mean that even tho he scored 16 goals, he sucks.
Either way, a lot gets lost in translation over a message board.
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No, it meant “Where is he playing now?”
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Fair enough.
Either way, I’m done with the argument, as I am going to a wedding.
I always love a good debate.
Later
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was that a rhetorical question, or do you really not know? if you’re unsure where he’s playing, you should check out ‘the internet’. it has lots and lots of neat info.
why so cranky today?
Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.
was that a rhetorical question, or do you really not know? if you’re unsure where he’s playing, you should check out ‘the internet’. it has lots and lots of neat info.
I did a quick google search and came up blank.
why so cranky today?
Too many fuckers asking me why I’m cranky.
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I did a quick google search and came up blank.
i think your googles is broken. first site on google search is wikipedia. “On August 2, 2010, Metropolit left the NHL as a free agent and signed a two-year contract to return the Swiss NLA with EV Zug.2”
Too many fuckers asking me why I’m cranky.
ha. fair enough!
Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.
So I know a lot of you hate him but...
Is this a better deal than Torres for 1 year at 1 mil?
by BCapp on Aug 28, 2010 3:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yes.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you tell me why? Torres has had a 27 goal season and has scored a lot more than mcarthur. As well from a pump n dump Torres had more value at the deadline last year
by BCapp on Aug 28, 2010 3:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Macarthur is younger and has more potential upside.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know if he has more potential upside. Torres has a much better offensive years under his bellt
by BCapp on Aug 28, 2010 4:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s not a bad deal for Torres or anything and I wouldn’t have hated it if he signed here for 1 year at 1 mil, but I prefer MacArthur is all.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I’m not going to lie, I thought Torres at $1m/1year was a good price too.
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
the baby beluga and banana phone jokes would have been insane
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
ring ring ring ring
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you
I always assumed the anti-torres stuff was based on a high price tag. In my eyes I’d take him at under 1.75
Meh
He just looked like the kind of player Burke would go after and overpay.
Most fans speculated on July 1 he’d go after Armstrong and Torres. Fans got 1/2 right. not bad.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Potential lineup?
Line 1—Kulemin—Bozak—Kessel
Line 2—Versteeg—Grabovksi—Caputi
Line 3—Sjostrom—Macarthur—Armstrong
Line 4—Orr—Mitchell—Brown
I'd rather
3-MacArthur Hanson Armstrong
4-sjostrom Mitchell Orr
Brown as a scratch
by BCapp on Aug 28, 2010 4:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hanson needs time in the AHL to develop. ‘11-’12 that spot is his for the taking, but he had a mediocre to disappointing first season.
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He has nothing left to learn in the ahl. He didn’t look good offensively but the rest of his game looked fine. He lead the team in face off percentage if I remember right
by BCapp on Aug 28, 2010 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He has nothing left to learn in the ahl.
Yes he does
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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He has nothing left to learn in the ahl. He didn’t look good offensively
OH
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
he was good offensivly in the AHL
He needs to be in the NHL to work on transitioning that game to the bigs, else he just becomes another AHL super star
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Mitchell is perfectly fine as long as he isnt on the top two lines
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What's with the hatred
He is putting up numbers capable of being a good third liner and is more than defensively responsible enough for fourth line minutes
by BCapp on Aug 28, 2010 4:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He is putting up numbers capable of being a good third liner
3 goals, 9 points in 36 games
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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he gets brownie points for defensive PKness and excellent nicknames
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This was referring to Mitchell not Hanson
I would say 23 pts/60 games is good enough for 3rd or 4th line duty. No?
(6 G, 17A)
prorate to 82 games is 8 G, 23 A for 31 pts.
Ahem
I’m not predicting anything, but this does open the door for Burke to sign another player.
my closing line from the FTB this morning.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
if only you had predicted something!
verbeauty!
by A Lindros Jaw on Aug 28, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone, I'm passing around a card for Birky. If you could all sign it...and so forth...
You mess with the bull young man, you'll get the horns - Principal Richard Vernon
by Biff Carrington on Aug 29, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Has anyone made a MacArthur Park joke yet?
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Aug 28, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
God no
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Line 1—Kulemin—Bozak—Kessel
Line 2—Versteeg—Grabovksi—Caputi
Line 3—Sjostrom—Macarthur—Armstrong
Line 4—Orr—Mitchell—Brown
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, he only took 153 faceoffs last season and won an awful 43%. He can’t play center. But you’re welcome to continue trusting a several years old article.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
trusting wikipedia = fail
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 29, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
wikipedia? more like failipedia AMIRIGHT?
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 29, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
So’s your FACE!
sorry, just haven’t seen that one for awhile.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 29, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No hanson.
I like this but Mac as centre or wing? Is Sjostrom a swede cheese? Cus then you have Mac and Cheese.
did you agree with no hanson? he needs to develop a bit more on the marlies.
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
thought he was PK specialist, no?
verbeauty!
by A Lindros Jaw on Aug 28, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
3rd or 4th line still
Plus he is arguable still the teams best PK guy
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Shoestrings will make the team based on his PK ability.
Not Liking Nikolai Kulemin Means You Have No Soul
not his goal against the panthers? that was tricky
by happiergilmore on Aug 28, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Not if he is on the fourth line. You don’t expect more than that from 4th line 8 minutes per night
by BCapp on Aug 28, 2010 4:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Heh
I wonder if Brown only will play when we go up against a team that Ron Wilson wants to kick the shit out of.
Hell, bring Rosehill up as well, get the 4th line to play every shift.
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
overtime 4:
Orr-Brown
Rosehill-Phaneuf
and a very cranky Giggy….
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 28, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
I’d just decrease his minutes. He is a ok specialist.
Looking at 67’s line definitions
Top line =kuleimin bozak kessel
Checking line = MacArthur. Hanson. Armstrong
Sheltered line = caputi. Grabs. Versteeg
4th line = sjostrom Mitchell Orr
Caputi can be replaced with other prospects (mueller d’amigo stephanovitch etc)
by BCapp on Aug 28, 2010 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don’t put C-Mac on a checking line. You’ll regret it.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
What the hell took you so long?
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t normally log on at all on weekends.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
BIG STUFF HAPPENS ON WEEKENDS!
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I see him as being able to contribute offensively to the checking line while leaving most of the actual checking to Hanson and Cheese
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone in the sabres system isn’t going to horrible at defense, though C-Mac tries to disprove this sometimes. He also tends to score a lot of goals early in the season as compared to the end of it.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
well if last season is any inclination, the Leafs don’t like to score goals early in the season compared to the end of it, so it’s a good fit
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
We could use some October goals like you wouldn’t believe.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Goal 1, win the first game.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 28, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Playoffs!!!1
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by Future_considerations on Aug 28, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He also might play on the top PP unit, though more likely the second one.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
Top 6 Fwd baby!
Top 6 Fwd!
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
wooo PP, we need that!
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
LOL @ Leafs having $300,000k in cap space now. If even one of our ELCs hits the “games played” bonus we’re probably fucked with a cap penalty next year.
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
As many of said here before
There is no guarantee that will happen, as I’m not sure MLSE is ready to set $7m on fire.
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
as of right now Finger is the leafs 6th-7th D man, probably playing musical pressbox with lebda
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
MacArthur must be pissed he’s making less than Lebda.
And 1/3rd of Armstrong.
Maybe he should have had more fuckin intangibles.
There's always money in the banana stand.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
his intangibles are so intangible that you don’t even know they’re there. this year he brings his intangibles to the next level, ie ‘people notice them’. you watch, it’s gonna be huge.
Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.
Burke reported being in love with MacArthur’s “Je ne sais quois”.
You mess with the bull young man, you'll get the horns - Principal Richard Vernon
by Biff Carrington on Aug 28, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
well technically they have to pay it anyway, if it doesnt help them get extra revenue (IE playoffs) what does it matter where he plays?
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He was referring to MLSE having to play him 7 mil
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yeah, but it doesnt cost the Leafs any extra dollars if he is against the cap or not. If there isnt a better use of cap space, why would you risk losing a serviceable defenseman through waivers?
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If he can't be top 5
the money is too much. He doesn’t project in the top six so you have his money in press box.
that doesn’t fucking matter if there is no other place to spend the money
the leafs owe him 3.5 million dollars next year no matter what.
where he plays does not change that, and since finger will never be in the leafs top 4 (knock on wood) than he is getting too much money to play where ever he plays
he is a useful NHL quality defenseman who will remain with the big club until a better use of his cap space comes along
end point
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It does
fucking matter. If he’s in Ricoh we don’t get the cap hit which was the original concern in the thread. 300 grand in space. Why would you keep his money on the roll? If he is in Ricoh we use the guys who are better. They have tried hard to trade him but no one wants the CAPHIT! for the talent.
Heh
funny thing is, I re-ran the #s. The 300k for some reason assumed Matt Lashoff was on the team as our 9th D (haha).
If we take off Lashoff, we have 900k in cap space. If we keep Finger up, we can’t even call Kadri up on Day 1 unless something changes.
I take that to mean that either Kadri is starting with the Marlies (we can hope!) or one of the D-men is being shipped out or demoted.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
you are totally missing my point. So I am going to break it down into digestible bits.
-Finger is a servicable, useful all around D who can be used in any situation should the need arise
-Talent wise, Finger is the 6th best Defenseman under contract with the Toronto Maple Leafs
-Right now, the Leafs are 300k under the cap
-Right now the Leafs DO NOT NEED anymore cap space
-To be sent to the Marlies, Finger must clear through waivers.
-if Finger is claimed, (probably not on the way down, but at half price on the way up, yeah, he probably goes) the leafs lose him for nothing and may end up paying half his salary anyways.
-IF (and that is a big if) something comes up (trade, signing, rookies like kadri, damigo whoever blow the brass away) and cap space is needed THEN sending finger to the marlies makes sense
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
See above
our cap space is less than I originally thought.
Something’s gotta change or none of the kids can even financially have a shot at cracking the big club on Day 1. That will change as the season goes through though.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
that is what training camp and preseason is for. to shake out the line up and see where things fall. So right now, Finger is in the line up because none of the kids have earned a spot.
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Good ol’ Finger.
Maybe Chemmy should go buy his jersey.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Dion, Kabs, Komi, Beauch, Schenn, Gunnar, Lebda.
That is 7.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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press box, like exelby last year
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
well if i was to speculate something so silly sure why not, still waiting for the BBQ to heat up
Phaneuf
Beauchemin
Komi
Kaberle
Schenn
Gunnar
Finger
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, i never said he wasnt
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
with lebda in the press box
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, 23 players, im pretty sure that is allowed
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
than a waiver eligible forward starts in the AHL, easy peasy
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess what really
pisses me off is the MLSE makes a ton of money. Dog and pony shows elsewhere get some of our profits. They spend under and get money from us. Sucks whe capitalist insist on social assistance.
"luxury tax"
MLSE pays phoenix’s payroll this year, and then gets an extra $50m in cap space spread over however many years they want.
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 28, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Leafs will carry a 21 man roster for cap reasons.
I’d want to take a look at waiver status to make any sort of educated guess as to who the last cuts might be.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
-Right now the Leafs DO NOT NEED anymore cap space
This is what I don’t necessarily agree with. As nhlcheapshot pointed out, if our ELC guys hit even minimal bonuses, we face cap penalties for ‘11-’12, which is unacceptable to me (I think the cap penalty from last year is Burke’s most inexcusable mistake from last year).
Unless Burke goes with a 21 or 22 man roster (I guess theoretically feasible with the Marlies in town but pretty damn risky on road trips), I think we’ve got major cap issues. Especially if Kadri makes his way on to the team at some point.
by The '67 Sound on Aug 29, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree with T67S. Cap space = flexibility to move in/out players as required and deal with unforeseen issues as the arise.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
This is true, the only thing is that I’m fairly certain that if something arises and the team NEEDS Cap Space Burke will be able to find it.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 29, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm telling you,
1. Put a half-full bottle of Jameson’s in his glovebox.
2. Get him arrested.
3. Revoke contract.
Easy as pie.
verbeauty!
by A Lindros Jaw on Aug 28, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Khabibulin
Are Oilers the run-away favourites to snag #1 overall again next year already or what?
Deslauriers and Dubnyk. Maybe they should sign Toskala to seal the deal.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Panthers are out and out tanking, and I bet they trade Vokoun this year to make room for Markstrom.
Resident Capologist
salak's pretty good too
dont know if he’s locked into KHL or elsewhere, but he’s been nibbling up their depth chart.
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 28, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
gerber
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh
then they’re fine.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 28, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
well he did get his neck broken last season, maybe he still cant turn his head?
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 28, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Just as effective, $10.00 cap hit.
verbeauty!
by A Lindros Jaw on Aug 28, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Belfour’s BACK!!!1
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by blurr1974 on Aug 29, 2010 2:11 AM EDT reply actions
I have no idea what the majority think
but I’m ok with this signing… and really drunk… typing is painful.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
this entire comment pretty much sums up how i feel.
especially the drunk and typing portion.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 29, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
welcome to my life
You may be taking Jared a little too seriously
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 29, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
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