Leafs GM Brian Burke says there has been some progress on a deal for Christian Hanson. He believes he will be signed before training camp.
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Camp sure will be interesting. Have a feeling Hanson will be a Marlie though.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
I'm wondering if the contract
will be 2-way. That may have been a sticking point in negotiations.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 30, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
was his QO two way?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think QO’s can be either? I’m not sure how they work to be honest.
All I know is he should have taken that QO.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 30, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubt that he’ll have a two-way deal.
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He’s still waiver exempt though, isn’t he?
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by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s all that matters to me
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by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t that be somewhat contingent on Kadri making the team? I mean, we’re not exactly deep down the center. Bozak-Grabbo-Mitchell-Hanson, Bozak-kadri-grabbo-mitchell…
If I'm losing an argument, I ask myself "What would a real journalist do?"
Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
I have made it publicly known that I expect Kadri on the opening night roster
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I think you may be right on this one.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 30, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t implying that you’re not.
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The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 30, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank god it won’t come to that.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 30, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
In your mind you are
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I don't
especially with the MacArthur signing… as I’ve also made public.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 30, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
50?
I know this has bin beaten to death on the blogs and such but just to clarify…his contract is already included in our SPC count right? puts us right at limit?
"i get paid for the practices...i'd play the geams for free" - Tim Horton
yes, his is already included.
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by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he can have bonuses since it won’t be an ELC anymore….
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 30, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you can have signing bonuses, but performance bonuses are only for ELCs, return from injury deals and +35 deals…
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions
two things: he can’t have a bonus laden contract and he should get less than Mitchell.
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The E5 indicates my general lack of knowledge about contracts. I’m just freaking bored of no hockey so thought I’d make a game of it.
My new guess is 569,000 (gotta keep the 69 together, obv) 2-year, 2-way dealio.
Something Else I learned on PPP
only ELC contracts, contracts for players over 35 and contracts for UFA’s who missed a certain minimum number of games due to injury can be offered bonuses.
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Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 30, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Odd
I thought that the signing of MacArthur spelled the end of Hanson’s time with the Leafs.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
I see them as having different roles. Hanson seems to have checking potential. MacArthur is second scoring line or bust.
by The '67 Sound on Aug 30, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he really going to be filling the Competition slot? That makes me sad.
If I'm losing an argument, I ask myself "What would a real journalist do?"
Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
On the other hand, if he has a really good season and pots 20 goals
We’ll all have the hap-hap-happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby danced with Danny fuckin’ Kaye!
I know
I’d rather see Caputi….
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
THOUGHT
What if Burke is looking to host tryouts for the Competition Slot in the AHL? I mean, that way they’re all on equal ground, with similar teammates, developing chemistry, and not making mistakes in the big leagues.
MacArthur looks good with better linemates and softer competition, and then gets dumped before the deadline for a pick or a prospect (hopefully a good one). Then whoever wins the CS in the AHL gets called up for the last bit of the season?
A part of me appreciates not losing games because the kids are figuring out the big leagues, as long as it’s not detrimental to their development.
If I'm losing an argument, I ask myself "What would a real journalist do?"
Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
I think he could get bumped to the Marlies if one of the kids kicks ass in camp.
The biggest downside with rookies is they get torched on defence but apparently MacArthur does too.
Nothing would make me happier than to see Caputi or Kadri earn the last spot on the S line over MacArthur. But MacArthur’s an OK insurance policy if they aren’t ready.
by The '67 Sound on Aug 30, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's remember
Stalberg and Bozak both kicked ass in camp for all intents and purposes and then spent most of the first 2/3rds of the season in the AHL.
I’m fine with this though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 30, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem with training camp and pre-season is
Most NHL teams aren’t icing NHL lineups. They’re icing 50/50 NHL/AHL lineups and when a prospect plays all his games against 50/50 NHL/AHL competition, he might look better than he is.
Not saying they don’t deserve a shot at the show, but Stalberg showed early on last year that his pre-season might have put him a bit more on our radar than it should have.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 30, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Stalberg made the team though.
I don’t think we’re disagreeing. My view has always been let Kadri, Caputi, Mueller, whoever make the team if they earn it (taking into account the problems with camp you identify). But if they don’t, it’s not terrible to have a backup plan. That’s what MacArthur is to me.
by The '67 Sound on Aug 30, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think (hope) this year is different – we don’t have a lot of vets that are waiver eligible, so if Caputi outplays MacArthur, it should be reasonable to see him on the NHL team and MacArthur sent down… no?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I Love The Name Luca Caputi
I love sayin’ it. But he doesn’t have much NHL experience – only 28 games. Clarke MacArthur has 208 games experience and has 16-goal and 17-goal seasons under his belt. I’d say he’s got the inside track between those two.
At least he has an infinitely cooler name then Lee Stempniak.
by general borschevsky on Aug 30, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
I just don’t know what Caputi’d do in the AHL again, it seems to me like he’s gotta be in the NHL. But it seems unlikely now.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Chemistry with the new guys, and I’d like to think that he could give them pointers based on what he’s seen. I mean, he’s been working on transitioning his game more recently than anyone else, right?
If I'm losing an argument, I ask myself "What would a real journalist do?"
Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
for the record
I really hope Caputi is with the Leafs. I just got a good feeling about him…
by general borschevsky on Aug 30, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Caputi
has played 120 AHL games over the previous 2 seasons. He’s scored 41 goals and has 51 assists for 92 points. He’s pretty far below a point per game player (0.77 ppg), and he’s managed 3 goals and 6 assists for 9 points in 28 NHL games (0.32 ppg).
We had Jiri Tlusty play 105 games in the AHL over 4 years, and he posted 43 goals and 60 assists for 103 points… he was basically a point per game player (0.98 ppg) and he hasn’t been able to best 11 goals and 15 assists for 26 points in 93 NHL games (0.28 ppg).
Not sure what the distinction is between the two, but unless Caputi can either find a niche as a checking player in the NHL or start to provide offense around 0.4 ppg, he’s not likely to stick in the NHL this year… or for very long in the future as a top 6 skater.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 30, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
MacArthur has played 208 NHL games and has 44 goals and 44 assists for 88 points (0.42 ppg).
He played 163 regular season AHL games for Rochester along with another 9 playoff games. In those 172 games he posted 58 goals and 165 points (0.96 ppg)… in his last couple of half years there he was well over a point per game.
MacArthur was better in the AHL than Caputi, and has posted decent NHL scoring numbers over 0.4 ppg… that’s the basics he needs to stay in the NHL (Caputi I mean).
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 30, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Some new links, maybe for tomorrow
The Sun’s report on Captain Phaneuf:
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/2010/08/30/15188901.html
The defenceman’s game-day scowl was screwed on pretty tight, three weeks before camp medicals on Sept. 16.
"It was a long summer and it’s no secret we weren’t happy where we finished last year," Phaneuf said. "Back at the first press conference I said what a huge honour it is to be the captain of this team. But I’m not going to change."
yeah….[/duffman]Next, the Leafs website blogger seems optimistic:
http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=536610
But as August gives way to September and training camp, there is reason for genuine optimism. All the Maple Leaf really need do is replicate what they managed in the final stretch of the regular season and Spring should take on a fervor unseen in these parts.
The most pessimistic Leafs fan on the board.
by Peter de Chatham on Aug 30, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, they need to do better than they did in the final stretch of the season, though.
If I'm losing an argument, I ask myself "What would a real journalist do?"
Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
Winning games in regulation
would be a place to start.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 30, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Last 26 games
the Leafs record with Dion in the line-up was 13-10-3. That’s not setting the world on fire, but it was the Leafs most consistent stretch of the season, 29 points in 26 games. If they’d have done that for 82 games, the Leafs would have had 91 points and been tied for 6th with Boston.
by general borschevsky on Aug 30, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
They extrapolated to 202 goals and 214 GA, which was good for 84-86 points, which was not good for the playoffs. I’d consider this number more accurate (they’re both terribly small samples), since it’ll take out the Bettman Point, which is a bit of a wildcard / luck of the draw.
If I'm losing an argument, I ask myself "What would a real journalist do?"
Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
Last 26 games
29 points. Averages out to 91 over 82 seasons. I think that’s what the author was getting at when he wrote:
All the Maple Leaf really need do is replicate what they managed in the final stretch of the regular season and Spring should take on a fervor unseen in these parts.
A win is a win. “What they managed” refers to the results, and that’s what they want to replicate, not necessarliy the methods.
by general borschevsky on Aug 30, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think we’ll be linking to the Sun here anytime soon.
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by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
liked this
Phaneuf got the gig because he can bring an intimidation factor to his own dressing room. But he also made sure to call every new Leaf acquired since July 1 to introduce himself and give a pep talk,
Might be a typical NHL thing (I have no idea) but it sounds nice.
As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
There’s actually a story related to that one concerning Mike Modano and Brendan Morrow. Modano was named captain after Darian Hatcher left for Detroit. However, it was Morrow who started showing up to rookie orientation and other team functions, sort of becoming the public face of the team. Within a few seasons he was abruptly named captain.
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Love it.
I hope Phaneuf grabs this team by the balls (or ball, as the case may be) and squeezes them so effing hard that they congeal into one fucking huge nut of a team. A nut so big and so perfect, that the only container that can hold it is the immortal Stanley Cup. Then I want him to grab that nut and slam dunk it to so hard into the centre of the ACC ice that it becomes embedded in the cold cement below, so that the cryogenic effects of the cooling system allow Et Spiritus Universi to live in those hallowed halls forever more.
Nomine Burkie, Phaneufi, et Spiritus Universi
by Jo4nny on Aug 30, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
I’m going to rec that because I really don’t know what else to make of it.
by Leaf in Habland on Aug 30, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Understatement.
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by Karina on Aug 30, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that he is partisan.
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considering how he ripped into Phaneuf and some others last week, he seems more Coxian than anything
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Ripped Phaneuf?
What post was that? Again, I don’t think he’s good but he’s partisan. He’s usually defending at least one Leaf (I think he was defending Kaberle) and not pretending that because he’s a journalist he’s ‘unbiased’.
He gets paid to pump the Leafs’ tires and sometimes that’s a refreshing change of pace.
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maybe ripped is too harsh (now that I re-read it)
Tomas Kaberle is not the reason the Leafs had the second-worst goals against average in the league. Credit Vesa Toskala, the shoulder injury incurred by Mike Komisarek and a cavalier team-wide opinion of defence. The Leafs viewed their own net the way the rest of us appraise a full Green Box left for a month in the sun.
Likewise, it’s a little silly to blame Kaberle for the league’s worst power play since it is his job to give the puck to the guy who then scores. If you want to blame someone for the power play, you might settle on Dion Phaneuf who scored just two power play goals in 26 games.
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yup
I banged that drum last week, I believe.
Good intentioned fellow, though.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 30, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The way I see it Caputi and Hanson will battle for the last opening on forward if Kadri makes the team. If Kadri Doesn’t than both these guys have roster spots to lose.
I see the forward corps like this
Kulemin Bozak Kessel
Macarthur Kadri Versteeg
Armstrong Grabbo Caputi/Hanson
Orr Mitchell Sjostrom
Brown is the 13th
You've got Grabovski
playing 3rd line centre? That makes no real sense.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 30, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
What else do they do with him? Shift him to the wing?
Leafs still seem short on checking line options.
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by James Mirtle on Aug 30, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the checking line will be Armstrong – Mitchell – Sjostrom. Though I’d prefer Hanson as the center.
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
We seem to be focused on having two checking lines. Considering our lack of high-end scoring, Burke & Wilson might be aiming for three lines that can produce points, rather than two.
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I was thinking about the penalty kill. They need a way better performance out of everyone there, even if things did improve drastically once Giguere arrived.
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by James Mirtle on Aug 31, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
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