It's Time for some Phantasy Puck
That's right ladies and gentleman, the NHL season is fast approaching and with it comes the return of the PPPPP. Last year's installment was a hit with 40 teams spread out amongst 2 divisions. This year we're looking to improve upon that success and have an even better turnout and season.
But before we get to naming our teams, we need to put our heads together and figure out what kind of Phantasy Puck we want to play. Below is a series of questions for you to answer that'll help me determine a) how many people are interested in joining the PPPPP and b) what types of drafts and leagues people are interested in partaking in.
First off, are you interested in being a part of the PPPPP? You do not have to be a Leafs fan to play; all are welcome. Our league(s) will be run using Yahoo!s fantasy engine, and you'll need a Yahoo! account to play. Please no absentee managers for these leagues. If you join, we'd like it if you actively participated in the week in and week out goings on with your team and its league. Also, do to the large numbers of players and the turn over with managers, we will not be doing keeper leagues.
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Question 2:
What type of draft would you like your league to have?
A standard draft which will randomly pick the draft order and then snake throughout the rounds (1-20 for round 1, then 20-1 for round 2, and so on)? Or would you like to try out Yahoo!s new auction draft which gives you a set amount of cash to spend on your team and lets managers bid for players? Online live draft using Yahoo!s draft manager or offline draft?
Question 3:
What type of scoring would you like your league to have?
A season long rotisserie? Weekly Head to Head scoring? Or season long fantasy points? Once scoring style is determined, we'll go into specifics of what the categories and values of each should be, but for now I'm just concerned with the style of scoring. Last year we used Head to Head.
Question 4:
Should there be limits on trades and/or moves? If so, what should they be and why?
Question 5:
What should the team sizes be? How many players of each position do you want to have on your team? How many bench and IR spots? What about minimum games played for your goalies? (Note: Keep in mind, the leagues will probably consist of 20 teams)
Lastly, since we'll have more than one league, would you be interested in being a commissioner for one of the overflow leagues? If there are enough votes for varying styles of leagues, I'll set up multiples. That is, a rotiserrie league, a Head to Head league, etc... And will need someone to run them. Keep in mind that you'll be the person in charge and will need to be active in its goings on.
So answer the questions in the comments section and we'll get this party started.
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I liked head to head scoring last year, I want a live draft (there was some awesome shit talking last year) and I can’t decide between snaking and auction. Auction sounds fun but I don’t know if I want to actively prepare for it.
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I'm in
I’d like to try head to head… and I prefer snake drafts.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 31, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
H2H, snake, no auction, lots of shit talk.
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I'm in
I don’t have a ton of fantasy knowledge, but I’ll answer as best I can:
2. Standard draft, online is good for me. Auction sounds like too much for me.
3. Head to Head was great.
4. Yes. Something like only 2 trades/moves a month. Way too much picking people up off waivers last yera.
5. Uhhhh let’s see… I’d say 2 bench spots, 2 IR spots. 3 Goalies. 2 of each forward position, 4 D. Maybe about 15 players in total, 2 utility guys? Something like that.
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
I thought last year’s rosters and movement were fine.
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Rosters were fine but i saw a ton of waiver pick ups which annoyed me.
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Increasing roster sizes could help with that too.
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by puckurgently on Aug 31, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
2 moves a month? i would’ve been slaughtered last year with that (thanks all you useless players made of glass….)
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yeah I really don’t know, I just don’t like how teams changed. I like to think your roster at the end should be pretty close to what you started with.
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless you are a psychic, that’s pretty unrealistic.
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Why?
Live or die with your team.
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ehh, if it’s a fun league, I don’t think you should get hit too hard for black swans.
My main concern with roster moves is keeping the amount of time you have to spend on your team down to something reasonable.
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by puckurgently on Aug 31, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed this
Yeah I feel keeping the amount of time down is a good thing too. Not everyone has hours per week to spend going over the waiver wire to improve their team.
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i think people who do that are terribly inefficient. All it takes me is about 10 minutes a day to set my line-ups, deal with injuries and see if I need to add/drop anybody. Unless you are playing for money, you don’t need to spend much time on your rosters to be competitive.
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i think people who do that are terribly inefficient
Most days I don’t have time to eat, let alone fix my roster. SO because of my job, I’m put behind the 8 ball?
The 4 transactions a week was my biggest complaint last year and is one of the reasons I wont be in this year
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You can also set up your roster days in advance. So on Sunday, check performances, make any changes, and set players up for the whole week. The only time you’ll have to log in is if someone gets injured.
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I really don’t want to sound like a jerk but I doubt people making waiver pickups is why you lost.
I did fine last year and generally set all of my players a week in advance.
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I never said it was the reason why, but it doesn’t help
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I trolled the waiver wire literally every day at work and there wasn’t much there. I got Jeff Schultz who was awesome at +/- but I lost that category every week.
If you have five minutes you can scan the waiver wire for useful players if you need them. This isn’t an issue.
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Fair enough, either way I’m not in.
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leafer, people picking up players on waivers had zero impact on your outcome. your team was just horrible dude, it happens:
Player G A +/- PIM PPP SHP
Joe Corvo 6 12 -10 12 9 0
Bill Guerin 21 24 -9 75 18 0
Jack Johnson 8 28 -15 48 13 0
Brendan Morrison 12 30 23 40 8 0
Patrick O’Sullivan 11 23 -35 32 12 1
Corey Perry 27 49 0 111 23 2
Kyle Quincey 6 23 9 76 11 1
Jason Spezza 23 34 0 20 24 0
Jordan Staal 21 28 19 57 5 3
Jeff Tambellini 7 7 -8 14 6 0
Fedor Tyutin 6 26 -7 49 18 0
Scottie Upshall 18 14 5 50 3 0
Goaltending
Chris Osgood 7 498 561 .888 1
compared to what a good team looked like…
Player G A +/- PIM PPP SHP
Zdeno Chara 7 37 19 87 16 1
Sidney Crosby 51 58 15 71 34 3
Steve Downie 22 24 14 208 11 0
Tobias Enstrom 6 44 -5 30 19 1
Tomas Fleischmann 23 28 9 28 20 0
Scott Gomez 12 47 1 60 19 0
Scott Hartnell 14 30 -6 155 14 0
Nathan Horton 20 37 -1 42 11 2
Guillaume Latendresse 27 13 -3 16 8 0
Andrei Markov 6 28 11 32 16 1
Lubomir Visnovsky 15 30 -10 20 23 0
Goaltending
Player W SV SA SV% SHO
Miikka Kiprusoff 35 1872 2035 .920 4
Jose Theodore 30 1231 1352 .911 1
Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.
I gotta agree, I played in 3 leagues last year and although there were some waiver wire gems and midseason pickups, for the most part they had minimal effect on the outcome of the season.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much the only way you can with the a team almost identical to the one you drafted is if everyone in the league operates like that. I don’t stream, but in every league I’ve won, my roster was no more than 50% of what I drafted. Things like injuries and goalies are pretty hard to predict; even glass-legs Gaborik played pretty much the entire season last year.
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Sure but seeing 4 moves EVERY week is rediculous.
I’d be ok with 2 a week.
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
ridiculous
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A lot of the fun is picking up young guys when they’re getting hot and/or relatively unknown. A couple of streaky players really helped me out last year.
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I once played in a league where we had 7 transactions throughout the season. I liked that a whole lot better than 4/week
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How many people wouldn’t have won if they couldn’t pick up Hornqvist or Jussi Jokinen last year?
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i agree. but seriously, i think every single player i had (excluded like 2 iron man) were injured last year. i had to change the roster even if i really didn’t want to (was running out of players i like pretty soon…)
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What a coincidence!
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by TMLSiegeinVancouver on Aug 31, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m in. I don’t have much experience, although I did end up placing second in a random pool on Yahoo that I joined last year without touching my team once! I’ll fit in wherever there is space. I’m down with a live draft.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 31, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
can I be a cheerleader?
It sounds like fun but I definitely won’t have time this year :(
I’m cheering for whoever gets Sid!
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To help make comments more uniform, here are my answers:
1: Yes
2: Standard snaking draft
3: Head to Head scoring. G, A, PPP, SHP, PIM, Shots. SV%, GAA, SO
4: Unlimited trading though commish approved; max 2 moves per week; unlimited for season.
5: 2 Forwards per position, 4 defensemen, 2 goalies. 3 bench spots and 2 IR spots.
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I think the divisions should go as follows:
PPP D1 should be filled first with people in D1 last year. Any empty spaces should go to D2 players from last year. If there aren’t enough spaces for all D2 folks then order of finish will factor in.
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This seems fair.
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I got my ass handed to me in D1 last year. I’d move down if someone else wants the spot. Seems fair.
My answers:
2 – Prefer standard, not a strong preference.
3 – Head to head. Best for smacktalk.
4 – Yes. Maybe a couple of moves a week? I don’t know about specific numbers, but I’d like to be able to log in a few times a week without falling significantly behind. That was a problem last year.
5 – “Enough that there aren’t many good players on waivers.”
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by puckurgently on Aug 31, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Just think: next year you could be in D1!
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if only i still had a chance to be in D3… quack. Quack. Quack! QUACK! QUACK!!
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 31, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Obviously interested
2. With so many people, I think an auction would be better (i.e. everyone is always involved instead of potentially waiting 20 minutes between certain picks); but I can live with standard snake draft
3. H2H all the way
4. Unlimited trades; 4 add/drops per week to limit streaming while not completely shutting down roster moves
5. 2 Forwards per position, 3 D, 2 Goalies, 2 IR spots and 4 bench.
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Cool. Count me in
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 31, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
1: Yes
2: Standard online snaking draft
3: head to head, G A PPP, PIM, Shots, SVP, GAA, Shots against
4: Unlimited trades, max 3-4 waiver moves per week
5: 2 forwards per position, 4 D, 2 goalies, 2 IR, 3 bench.
I’ve also got a friend who’s a bit of a lurker around here that would be interested in joining.
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Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
By the way, I tried to do an auction mock draft on yahoo, but couldn’t do one with people, as absolutely no one was doing it. Doesn’t bode well for the convoluted process, in my opinion.
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1) Definitely interested.
2) Standard Draft
3) H2H for sure
4) No limit on trades, Max 5 add/drops per week is usually fine in my other leagues
5) 2F/spot, 4 D, 2 Goalies, 3 bench, 1 IR (<— this was a touchey subject last season as so many stars were injured for periods of time)
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PSH another PPP contest I can win...
It’s going to get old real quick, beating PPP in everything.
1. Online draft
2. Rotisserie, just like my chicken is good for me
3. No, no limit on trades, but 2 waivers a week or something and you should have some system to raise an issue to a commissioner should the need arise
4. C,C,LW,LW,RW,RW,D,D,D,D,G,G,BN,BN,BN,BN,IR seems good for me
5. Yes, I’d be a commissioner if you needed helping hands. As a habs fan, I’m way more qualified anyways…
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We do need helping hands, but being a Habs fan your little child hands are not big enough for the job. Sorry.
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I’m out for this year. Don’t have time to manage a fantasy team
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the auction idea sounds really cool…but i don’t have the time for this anymore. :(
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by blurr1974 on Aug 31, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
In.
1: Yes
2: Live draft… snake is fine though the auction sounds interesting too, no real preference.
3: H2H… G, A, PPP, SHP, PIM, Shots. SV%, GAA, SO
4: No preference.
5: 2 of each forward position, 4 D, 3 bench, 1 IR… 2 GP min. for goalies.
+/- seemed good last year…..until I realized that it directly competes against PPP for your players. Sure it awards good ES players, but to quote Brian Burke:
The plus-minus stat is like a lamp post to a drunk, supportive, but not really illuminating.
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Never a fan of +/-
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh
I do like his quotes and analogies.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone else hear him quote his mother on why it’s good to hoard defenseman?
“The day you save and nickel is the day you break a shoelace”
Such a strange quote.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 31, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That sounds like an old-timey thing some one’s grandpa might say.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I had an onion tied to my belt, as it was the style at the time
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Hey everybody, an old man is talking!
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 31, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember that scoring in fantasy hockey isn’t an attempt to find a universal truth of great players.
Regardless of what your categories are you should be drafting your team to get those.
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That’s why I like Shots better than +/-. It gives Jason Blake a purpose in life again!
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I don’t hate shots either.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Shots, shots, shots, shots, shots, shots, EVERYBODY!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 31, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i call kaberle!
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
that wouldn’t be fair. who ever gets ovie would kick ass
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I think that's sort of the case
regardless of the shot column.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoever gets Ovie always kicks ass. He was also 2nd in +/- last year so yeah………
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In fact
The 10 of the top 11 players in +/- last year were all on either Washington or Vancouver. Terrible stat.
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It’s a team stat like GAA. It’s why a Washington second liner could be a good pickup. It’s just something to think about.
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I'm in.
Doan F with Phoenix should do well again. :P
2. Standard
3. Head to Head
4. 2 moves a week, trades can be whatever
5. 3 IR spots, 2 goalie games per week since each team will likely only have 1 starter
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Idea
How about having the D2 be like beta testers and try out the auction draft?
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by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 31, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
In - D2 potential here
1. Yes
2. Live/Standard (although the auction is intriguing)
3. H2H – Yahoo standard is fine.
4. Unlimited moves per week, max moves per season = number of roster spots. So in my suggested roster size, I’d say 16 max moves in a season.
5. 6F/4D/2G – 3B/1IR
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Is the auction live or Blind? While I like live drafts my worry is not being available for the draft means no participation.
by Eterrible on Aug 31, 2010 2:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If you miss an auction draft, it’s just like missing a snake draft. You will still have a full team; but in case you miss the draft, you really need to set your price limits for players to assure you get some high priced guys; just like setting your draft order so you can get the guys you want.
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bleh, i keep messing up my cap space in my video game hockey team, forget messing it up with fantasy as well.
In NHL 10, here’s how to properly manage your cap: choose a few players that you will not trade for the foreseeable future…or ever; try to keep it to no more than 5 or 6 guys. Then figure out how much it will cost to keep them over the next few years. After that, everyone else is replaceable. Also, if you have a young guy who isn’t in your plans for the future, trade him before his contract expires to avoid losing him for nothing or having to pay him money you don’t want to. Also try to keep your 4th line to under $2.5MM total as they won’t get much playing time anyways if you simulate. Don’t splurge on a back-up goalie either; especially if you have a good starter since goalies rarely get injured in the game.
I also managed to keep my cap under control with having guys like Stamkos, Tavares, Doughty and Schenn all making $7+ MM.
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1 yes…
2 standard draft
3 either way
4 maybe like 3 moves in a week (because my players will break like they were Sami Salo)
5 2 players/spot, 4-5 bench and 3 IR (because my players will break like they were Sami Salo) and min. 2 games for goalies/week
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1 I’m in
2 standard live draft works for me.
3 I liked the head to head match ups we used last year.
4 2 moves a week, a max number per full season
5 standard spots 2 of each spot, 4 bench 2 IR
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 31, 2010 2:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
1. Yes. I was 6th in D1 last year, looking to move up.
2. Same draft as last year. Auction sounds like too much work and too confusing.
3. I had never done H2H before last year, but I really liked it. I’d go with that again.
4. I thought the moves were fine: 4 per week.
5. I’d like to see smaller team sizes, like 6 fowards, 4 D, 1 G and maybe two bench spots.
by Leaf in Habland on Aug 31, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
I feel like you gotta do 2 G spaces… 1 goalie & min starts, plus some teams may have a weird schedule and only play once… it could get a bit rediculous.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s my feeling on the goalies too. A guy would have a goalie get a shutout on a Monday, and then that goalie wouldn’t play again through dumb luck.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
It could get ridiculous…or interesting. I don’t know, I don’t think that’s less fair, since everyone is potentially in the same situation. If your goalie gets a shutout, then good on you for picking him. I do see how it take some strategy out of the game, as you don’t have to try to guess which of the two will play better.
by Leaf in Habland on Aug 31, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
How many teams in each division? 10, 12, 14, 16?
we do a 16 team one at work, and it’s awesome, you really have to find gems to win.
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With 20
just throwing it out there, maybe 4D per team is a bit much… it’d be tough to find 80 fantasy-worthy D-men out there.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
2 goalies
might be tough, but totally possible.
with 4 D, I think Lebda might make some rosters.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Four D is less than the top 3 on each team.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
I’d still choose Lebda over some of Anaheim and Dallas’ Top 4 D.
/sarcasmbutkindasortanotreally
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 31, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Many top 3 D are shutdown guys with no offensive upside though. There are a lot of guys getting around 30 points or less that play top 4 minutes; not to mention guys like Regehr and Komi who should play some good minutes but produce less than 10 points.
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I’d agree, last year was D wasteland.
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I’ll play. I’m pretty new here, but a seasoned vet in fantasy hockey. Plus I’ve never done a league with so many players, that alone should be a blast.
Standard draft would be the way to go for me. Though I would not be opposed to an auction, I’m more comfortable with the snake draft.
H2H is the way to go, encourages trash talk and activity, I think.
Waivers/Fair trades are what make fantasy sports so much fun. I love getting the next big thing before anybody else picks up on it. I’m for unlimited, but if you are going to limit moves, make it a reasonably high limit. Trades are fine as long as nobody tanks and trades their team away for nothing. So as long as there is some sort of veto system in place for trades, I’m for unlimited trades too.
as for roster spots, I like 2C 2LW 2RW 4D 2G, but I’m not too picky.
I like commish can veto moves.
Otherwise assholes will vote down moves just because they don’t want a specific team getting a guy.
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
Well, it would have to be a majority vote, or something along those lines. I’m just iffy on leaving veto power up to one person. Usually a vote works pretty well in weeding out the tank trades vs. the honest ones.
You doubt that I would act as a purely benevolent commissioner??
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Yes.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 31, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, good point.
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i’ll commish if it means denying you trades!
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by blurr1974 on Aug 31, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
this is something i might be interested in
1. oui oui
2. standard snake for me
3. head to head or total points is good for me (G=A=1 pt, Win=2 pts, SO=additional 3 pts). for H2H i like the following categories (G, A, Powerplay Pts, Shorthanded Pts, PIMs, +/-, Shots — Wins, Losses, Saves, Save %… shutouts seems like too flukey a category in H2H)
4. i like the idea of 2 waivers per week
5. 20 total: 2-C, 4-W, 4-D, 2-G, 2-Util, 1-IR, 5 Bench… 2 or 3 game minimum for goalies
3a. is there a shootout wins or shooutout sv% as a separate stat for goalies? that would be good too.
balance out the skaters/goalies categories at 7-6
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 31, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
3b. wow, i forgot GAA for tenders… thats in for sure
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 31, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m in (and I mean it this year)
everything else is what evs
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 31, 2010 2:53 PM EDT reply actions
I'm in I'm in I'm in!
I think my record speaks for itself taht i’m not an absentee owner. Even when I’m blown out i scratch and claw to get out of the basement. I think i was middle of the pack in the B pool last year, but it wasn’t due to lack of activity. Just couldnt’ overcome some boneheaded autodraft picks
2) Auction draft sounds intriguing, but nothing wrong with standard draft
3) head to head is best
4) no limit on trades, but limit on moves (shouldnt be able to constantly recycle the FA wire for one-game pickups on Sunday, for example, to win your week with a lucky goal)
5) I’m a fan of DEEP drafts because that’s where the real skilled picks are made, I find.
i could also be convinced to earn some of my keep around this place by Commissioneering if needed.
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There’s a one day delay on waiver pickups, that wouldn’t have worked last year either.
We really didn’t have any problems with waiver moves last season, we should leave them and trades alone.
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Then I’m out.
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
Yahoo fixed that and waiver wire pickups will now be reflected in your roster as soon as you make them. Pretty sweet huh?
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1. yes (!!!)
2. regular draft
3. rotisserie
4. limit trades/pickups to some set number. preferably as low as possible. no reason to make this the most serious of leagues. it should be pretty casual, IMHO.
5. Depends on the number of teams, but I would prefer a not-so-deep draft. I don’t want to have to draft the also-rans of the league.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 31, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions
PICK ME!!
1: Yes
2: Standard snaking draft
3: Head to Head scoring. G, A, PPP, SHP, PIM, Shots. SV%, GAA, SO
4: Unlimited trading though commish approved; max 5 moves per week; unlimited for season.
5: 2 Forwards per position, 4 defensemen, 2 goalies. 3 bench spots and 3 IR spots.
Credit goes to SkinnyFish … As i copied and pasted his reply with some changes!
by hockeyphreak on Aug 31, 2010 3:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You Dave Fuller looking son of a bitch.
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Im inspired by your writing sir! Truly inspired!
by hockeyphreak on Aug 31, 2010 3:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jesus, I was going to throw my name in the hat…but this baby may be 98 teams deep by the time things are said and done here. Well done, PPP. Well done. This is when those guys/gals who were here from the beginning have to be having fun.
If there are 98 teams there will be five divisions.
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HAHA! Seriously, that would be the sickest draft ever! It would take like two weeks to complete. How crazy awesome would that be!
Guy #98, first pick – Jeff Finger
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i will draft the waiver dan-band
dan sexton
dan paille
dan cleary
dan hamhuis
dan girardi
dan ellis
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 31, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
If you named yourself Team Dan and did this I would laugh for a long time.
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team name would be a bit more creative
“You Can Dans If You Want To”
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 31, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I fully support you in this en-dan-vour.
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Dans Dans Revolution
The Safety Dans
Tony Dans-a
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I thought of that and then preferred Tony Dans-a
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aaaaaaaaayyyy
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Save the Last Dans (for me)
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by puckurgently on Aug 31, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You could have a very good team of all Dans
Alfredsson
Sedin
Briere
Cleary
Heatley
Mike MoDANo
JorDAN Staal
Boyle
Hamhuis
JorDAN Leopold
Girardi
Ellis
Yann DANis
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i would have also included dan zubrus.. just because its not really his name
by Death_By_Leafs on Aug 31, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh, you’d take Eberle before Heatly?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 31, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
1. definitely interested
2. i prefer auction at this point, but i’m down with a standard too. don’t do an auction if you wanna keep doing standards, cause it’s a lot of fun once you do one. takes a bit more time than a standard generally, but you’re a lot more involved watching every nomination, bidding more often then you would just pick a player in a standard. in a standard you’re just… ok, 5 more picks till me, hope nobody picks Player X. auction, you want him, you bid on him, dont have to worry about the luck of order.
3. either is fine really if:
4. there is a weekly move limit if its a head to head. if its a roto there is usually a limit cap per position, like 82 games per slot, so moves aren’t as big a deal there since once you run out of games for a position you stop getting the stats for it.
5. 2-3 C, LW, RW and 4-5 Dman, 2 goalies, couple bench and IR would work well with 20 teams imo.
I’d be down to run a league too if need be, i’m always active with my fantasy teams. it’s serious business.
Also interested
I like the Standard draft (snaking), and for it to be live.
Also prefer H2H scoring, with 10 categories like Yahoo has, but G,A,PPP, +/-, PIM, SOG, Wins, SV%, GAA, SHO.
2 per, for C, LW, RW, 3/4 D, 2 G, 4 Bench, 2 IR. If you want to cut that down in half due the amount of players we’d be picking from, that’s cool.
If there are going to be so many teams per league, it might be better to have a very lenient move limit (if at all), as there’s a much bigger chance that you’ll pick up crap players in later rounds, and you don’t want to handicap anyone because of that.
I've been doing 20 tam leagues for years, you guys will love it
1. Put me down for the umteenth division (geez this is going to be huge)
2. Auctions are great and all, but what people don’t realize is that a deep league, with 20 owners, is looking at roughly 6 or 7 hours of drafting. I vote Live Snake.
3. H2H, for sure.
4. No need for transaction limits if rosters are big enough (20 X 30 = 30 X 20).
5. I like a big bench to add an element of strategy. 3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 4 D, 2 G, no Util, 15 BN, 5 IR. Anything less than 50% bench slots means simply doing chores on non-Saturdays. Log on, dress everyone, log off. Forcing people to bench some of their players creates startegic choices each day. Goalie game minimum needs to be addressed carefully, depending on league size.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 31, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
I want in and this is what my league would look like
: Yes
2: Standard snaking draft
3: Head to Head scoring. G, A, PPP, SHP, PIM, Shots. SV%, GAA, SO
4: Unlimited trading though commish approved; max 2 moves per week; unlimited for season.
5: 2 Forwards per position, 4 defensemen, 2 goalies. 3 bench spots and 2 IR spots.
Sure
snake
Head 2 head
only restrict waivers if someone’s being a real dick about it
don’t care about roster size/positions
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 31, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
I have unfinished business and plan on eviscerating whoever has Ryan Miller every time we meet.
I’m fine if we use the snake draft, but the auction draft does seem pretty interesting.
I liked the categories we used last year. I liked the H2H, but I’m cool if we use Rotisserie
I’d prefer unlimited trades, a maximum 3 waiver moves per week (just so people can’t spam). Don’t allow any trades/waivers for the playoffs.
I think we had two full lines at every forward and D position, plus a goalie and three bench spots last year. That made fo a nice setup.
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1) May I please play?
2) Regular Snake Draft
3) head to head
4) Don’t care
5) 6 forwards, 4 D, 2 goalies, 3 bench, 2ir,
6) Aquarius
I’m sorry. They correct answer to question 6 is Sagittarius.
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Libra mother fucker
it’s all about the balance
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 31, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I am king of the sleeper pick
bring it
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 31, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
“Sagittarius, the most philosophical of all the signs …. But I don’t believe in that shit”
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 31, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll be in again. And I’m solemnly swear that I won’t take Toskala in the 10th round again just to make a crappy joke.
And with a 20 team format I really liked the 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1 Utility, 1 Bench, 1 Goalie team setup we used last year.
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i fucking hate goalie hoarders
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 31, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
In a 20 team league with maybe 18 regular starting goalies. You had to move quick.
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Yeah, it wasn’t even that anyone was hoarding.
It was just a couple people used their 1st or 2nd round picks on a goalie, then everyone realized “Oh shit there’s not a lot of great goalies available” and like nobody was left by the 4th round.
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I started it with my clever first round pick of…
ROBERTO LUONGO?!?
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I made a terrible second round pick of the then-reigning Vezina winner.
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by puckurgently on Aug 31, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
id i dont have a shot at ovie or crosby with my first round pick its always the best goalie on the table
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Aug 31, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I might draft the all spite team. Alfredsson, Rask, Stempniak, Moore, Gomez, Gonchar.
If I lose badly we all win.
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i like this
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Aug 31, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked your format last year but I’d like to go to:
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 3D, 1 Utility, 1 Bench, 2 Goalie
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2 goalies in a 20 team league wouldn’t work that well I think.
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Pfffft. I’m going to take all the goalies.
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Like you took the entire Leafs defensive core last year?
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Ian White was a savvy pick, Komisarek not as much.
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That's what I did.
I had Bryzgalov and Nabokov :)
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What an asshole.
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:D
Pretty much.
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JaredFromLondon: ...Odin, he's cool.
I trade you Shane Doan and somebody else for Eric Staal and then that jerk goes and gets injured.
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Best trade ever!
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Missed half of one draft last year and thought I was screwed for the year: had Bryzgalov coming off a sub-par year and Jon Quick. Needless to say Bryz’s stellar play and Quick’s solid tending were a great and pleasant surprise.
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Hated my team after the draft. Just hated it.
Ended up finishing 2nd in the regular season (partially thanks to savvy trades to pick up Bobby Ryan and Jaro Halak for their post-Olympic runs)
Lost in the quarterfinals on some weird tiebreaker because Ryan Miller shat the bed in one game that week.
Resident Capologist
Ok fine. One goalie.
But three D is good. Everyone’s D was useless last year.
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Two goalies is better. It makes up for players who get stuck with a 1a goalie in the draft. If you’re playing with 1 goalie, the Millers, Lundqvists, Bryzgalovs of the world run away with it.
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You can draft another goalie, it would just use up your bench spot. Thats what I did along with a couple of others last year.
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That even further rewards having one star goalie. Not only do you get a chance to dominate goalie categories (SVP, GAA), but other people lose a bench slot just to make up categories like SOG.
If someone wants to lose out on two 30+ goal scorers just to have a Lundqvist and a Miller, that comes at a cost to them and others in the league probably benefit slightly. They need to burn two high picks. If it just takes one pick to score on almost all goalie categories, people who are left over with even an average tandem (like Rinne and Greiss, for example) to cover one slot, they’re still A) probably not going to match SVP / GAA, and B) not going to be able to top goal scoring. Instead, if the guy who takes Miller burns a pick on Miller and then settles for a waiver-quality backup, the backup will bring down SVP, and the scoring will be closer to even.
2 goalie slots please.
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1. I would like to play
2. I like standard drafting
3. I prefer rotisserie, but see the majority prefers h2h. Don’t mind h2h, love it during season, just not big fan of the playoff system.
4. Don’t care
5. I would like a Util spot, but mostly I’m just counting on Kyle Wellwood to sign with a team so he can fill all my positions.
in
liked everything about last year’s format, although i agree there should be a max moves per week (2 or 3), unlimited moves for the season.
and no $$ again this year?
Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.
No $$. All for pride and bragging rights.
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Just send me the prize now.
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Weak like your mother’s mixed drinks.
OH SNAP
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My mother’s erections are massive sturdy and fearsome.
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Or
Your Mother’s Fearsome Erections… I’d be fine with either.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 31, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
this statement is correct
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by blindfolded tank driver on Aug 31, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought you and chemmy were big shot engimineers ruling the world and rolling in $$$ ???
Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.
I just don’t want to collect it.
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Yes, I’m interested.
Standard draft, head to head format. 20 teams in 2 divisions
2 C, 1 LW, 1 RW, 1 Wing, 3 D, 1 G, 2 IR, 3 Bench
no limits per season on moves, max 3 moves per week.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Thumbs down on divisions. I loved how insane everything was changing from week to week.
PLus it was crazy how Karina’s season mirrored the Leafs all year long.
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The craziest part was that 5-8 won in the playoffs and it ended up being 7 vs. 8 for the finals with 8 winning. Luckily 5 won 3rd. Because I’m awesome.
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That was insane
no matter what I did, it was crazy
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
is this like English soccer, in that the second division is for the crap phantasy players (or newbs) and the 1st is all the girlfriends and princesses? if you win the 2nd division or finish in the top 3 do you move up next year?
By the way, if you guys want a cheap win over me, schedule the draft between the 17th to the 26th. I won’t be sober on any of those days and not around for the first half.
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Oh shit, I just realizied that I can renew last years league and probably pass the Commissionership on to whoever its going to be.
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Nah, don’t do that as I’ll be changing up some of the categories, teams, rules, and what not. Just easier to start from scratch than having to modify an existing one.
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You can change all that through the commissioner’s options and that way we can keep a history of the past years.
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I’d rather forget last year.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
Like how you lead the league all year then missed the playoffs despite being 1 point behind 5th? Yeah, that was funny.
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grrrrrrrrrr
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
You had the same amount of points as the two teams in the finals.
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
It’s okay the 3rd place team had 1 more point than you.
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i still don’t know what the tiebreaker was that got me into the playoffs. 7th -10th all had the same points or something crazy like that.
Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.
Yes yes yes
1. Absolutely
2. Draft – Auction is fun for playoffs, and you just get however many players you get. Not so appealing for something like this, though.
3. Head to Head
4. No limits
5. 2C 2LW 2RW 1F 4D 2G 3 Bench 2 IR
6. Sure, if needed.
by McCabe the Martyr on Aug 31, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
I am an indecisive woman
I would like in.
I like to read trashtalk.
I also fully anticipate my season mirroring the Leafs again this year.
So… PLAYOFFS!!!1
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
Does this make me look fat?
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
This question
is always a trap.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 31, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
WOOOOOO
1. absolutely.
2-5) don’t care. I’ve done a variety of fantasy league styles and don’t really have a preference as to how they’re run – although unlimited waivers would be nice.
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1. Count me in!
2. Auction Draft, although I’m concerned that contestants will excessively overpay for the elite and will have very little for the rest of their teams.
3. Head to Head sounds good.
4. 2 Trades/Moves per month. Simpler the better.
5. Not too concerned here, either.
I’m stoked to be apart of such a fantastic group of hockey fans!
Welcome
Thanks for joining.
Might have to do more than 2 moves a month because you can get royally screwed with two injuries.
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I’m in and have no opinion on technical questions except that if it works out somehow, the bottom feeders in each division last year should get first pick in order of low ranking, just for the first round, of course.
And it would also be interesting if we designated a draft round as all-goalie in the first 5 rounds, like the third or something.
And I want a prize for most roster moves in the season, just to piss Karina off. :)
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by Karina on Aug 31, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Ferek de dumma (what my mom always called me, I think it’s dumb head)
2. Hoer (obvious)
3. Verliezer (loser)
4. Flikker op (f—k off)
5. Klootsak (my fav) (scrotum)
6. Eikel (d—k head)
7. Hufter (a—hole)
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Caption contest-
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by kidkawartha on Aug 31, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
1. In like a dirty shirt
2. Standard Online Draft
3. Head to head is usually good… G, A, PPP, SHP, PIM, SV, GAA, SO, maybe+/- or shots
4. I tend to like a limited amount of moves, I did 10 through the year last year in the pool I ran, might be a bit low, maybe like 15? Unlimited trades is fine.
5. Hmm… 2 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 1 Util, 3 D, 2 G, 1IR, 3 Bench?
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by BetterThanBester on Aug 31, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions
1: Yes
2: Standard draft
3: Head to Head scoring. HITS, blocked shots, G, A, SHP, PIM, Shots, SV%, GAA
4. Don’t care.
5. Not too concerned here, either.
by bigrubberbiscuits on Aug 31, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions
Ballard's Boys want another shot.
Q1: Yes, I’d love to have a shot to improve on last year’s 11th (?) place finish.
Q2: Either or, but probably prefer standard
Q3: Either or, but probably prefer H2H
Q4: Don’t care
Q5: Don’t really care about this either. Default settings are fine with me.
1. i would play fo-sho
2. either is fine
3. H2H
4. dont care.
5. just sign me up!!!!!
ready to kick some electronic a**
by CaroldHallardBurse on Aug 31, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions
1) I’m in
2) Regular Draft
3) Fantasy Points
4/5) Standard rules, or whatever everyone else decides.
by Blue and White Expat on Aug 31, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions
1. YES!
2. I’m fine with last year’s format. Head to head scoring is much better. I also expect to have a much better idea about how things work this time round.
3. I’d need to know the date and time of the draft a couple of weeks in advance so I can arrange to get the night off work.
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by article1 on Aug 31, 2010 7:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
To Formalize
1. I’m in
2. Snake Draft
3. I don’t care with head to head or points, but I’d like to play head to head for fun.
4/5) Don’t care but let us know well in advance.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I'm in
head to head scoring sounds good. I’’d like a live draft, since smack talk is great. Auction sounds like way too much preparation for me.
"Tell Sigmund Freud not to worry about his mother, I took good care of her last night. BOOYAH."
I’m also not a great person at this, so I can host basement parties.
"Tell Sigmund Freud not to worry about his mother, I took good care of her last night. BOOYAH."
alternatively
I could just do a meme team—Schenn, Bozak, Stempniak, etc…
"Tell Sigmund Freud not to worry about his mother, I took good care of her last night. BOOYAH."
I am in
I played yahoo fantasy hockey a few years back.
Head to head sounds good and a live or pre set ranking of players and then auto draft is fine with me.
I noticed some ppl saying that it is time consuming, I found it less so if I just set my roster up for a week or two in one shot.
by WendelsKnuckles on Aug 31, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions
Welcome
Because I don’t think I did before but thanks for joining
I noticed some people saying that it is time consuming, I found it less so if I just set my roster up for a week or two in one shot.
Fixed. And that is indeed the best way to do things.
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1. In
2. Standard snake draft – the auction is new and it frightens me.
3. H2H – I will probably be in enough rotisserie’s as it is and they are very time consuming.
4. No trade limit – Depending on how many players you need to draft/play, I would consider restricting moves. If there are still ‘top two’ lines players readily available on the waiver, I would limit moves to probably 2 per week. If there are pretty much only 3rd line guys available, the limit matters less. GAA, SV% SO G A PPpts PIM’s +/- and I would like to have one of the two new stats this year – blocked shots or hits. Adds an extra dimension to your draft, not all about picking the most productive point-getters.
Yes +/- is pretty janky, but I find that short handed points is more BS luck than drafting skill.
5. For a 20 team league I would have a draft for 15 players: 2 goalies, 4 D-men, 2 from each forward position, a utility and two bench. One IR is sufficient.
I’d be a commish if needed.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 31, 2010 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
About having 2 goalies: If we really want to go to one, then we need to drop a Goaltending category and add an additional skater category.
If not, then it behooves you to draft a goalie with your first pick.
10-12 skaters racking up points in 6-7 categories makes taking skaters less relevant if you have one goalie racking up points in 3 categories.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 31, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Quick count – close to 60 teams already.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 31, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
Yes I'm in
2.H2H
3. Snake Draft
4. I like the idea of 1 move a week. Sometimes you take a chance on a player that maybe has some injury history but also has good upside. There should be an element of risk vs. reward.
5. 2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2G, 2bench, 1IR
PPP
Do I have your permission to steal this idea and use it elsewhere?
I mean, it’s not like I’ve never invited a blog community to join a Yahoo league together, but I haven’t done so in a couple of years and this post would obviously represent my inspiration for doing it this year.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 31, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
You Dave Fulleresque son of a gun.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
I fully intended to give credit where it was due
Or at least give PPP credit for Skinny’s post. Now I’m thinking one blog league might be plenty, and I’d prefer to just play PPPPP.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Sep 1, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, no worries man. Just busting your balls.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens.
You Damian Cox-esque son of a gun.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Sep 2, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
If you want a blues fan in your draft I’m down. Just go ahead and copy skinnyfishes answer and put it here. Live drafting is definitely the way to go.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
drafting is half the fun
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Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 1, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in!
2. Head to head
3. Snake
4. I like unlimited moves. With such a big league the pickings will be slim anyways.
5. 2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2G, 4 bench and 1 IR
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by PPP on Sep 1, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
(and he was never heard from again… except when sobbing into his bill polian collectable pillow)
by Death_By_Leafs on Sep 2, 2010 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions
1: Yes
2: Standard snaking draft
3: Head to Head scoring. G, A, PPP, SHP, PIM, Shots. SV%, GAA, SO
4: Unlimited trading though commish approved; max 2 moves per week; unlimited for season.
5: 2 Forwards per position, 4 defensemen, 2 goalies. 3 bench spots and 2 IR spots
Leaf related ulcers, 34 years strong, and growing.
by Halifax Hockey Hooligan on Sep 1, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions
I'm in!!!
Standard (Snake) draft
Head toHead w/playoffs!!!
I think we should keep the teams fairly small since there will be a lot of teams (I’m assuming). Maybe 2 centers, 4 wingers, 2 D-Men and 2 goalies? You’d have on the “ice” onc center, 2 wingers, 2 D-Men and one goalies and the rest on the bench. Maybe an extra utility spot and 1-2 IR spots.
I don’t mind unlimited trades until the playoffs start.
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by PPP on Sep 1, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Too late to sign up?
I haven’t posted here much but am a pretty active reader and hope to start posting more
too late to sign up?
Put me in!
just my two cents, but maybe a good way to do the trades would be to have a limit for the whole season, rather than week? like 15 a season or something
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by PPP on Sep 1, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
One more thing
Depending on how many goalies, I would recommend a minimum of 2-3 goalie games per week.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 1, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
I'm in
I like the live, standard draft
head to head scoring
5 moves a month
6 Forwards, 4 Defense, 2 Goalies, 4 Bench and 1 IR
That’s what Skinny said!
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by PPP on Sep 1, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
and then you stole his innocence
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 1, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
1. I’d love to be involved if that’s cool.
2. I prefer a traditional snake draft since I’m too stupid to get an auction right i’m sure.
3. Head to Head is my choice personally, but I can go roto. I tried it once…in college.
4. I don’t mind having a move limit but maybe cap it at 100 so you can still have fun. I wouldn’t put a cap on trades personally. Trades is excitin.
5. 6 fwds, 4 d, (2 util?) 2 IR. 1 or 2 goalies. In a 20 team league I think 1 goalie is reasonable to keep things competitive since, with 40 goalies drafted, some teams could end up with 2 starting goalies and some with a starter and a backup. Kinda sucks to feel like you have no chance as soon as the draft is over. But that’s just my opinion. Seems like I’m in the minority on that so 2 goalies is cool with me. I’m up for anything…anything.
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by Biff Carrington on Sep 2, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
Wish I'd seen this last night but I was already passed out.
Count me in. Snakey, preferably. I’m open to new and random things, so the rest of the makeup is fine by me.
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Sep 2, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions
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When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens. - Certified Grabbo Lover
I was hoping Shots Against might be a category for the goalies. Helps prevent weeks where some backup goalie plays 10 minutes, gets 0 GAA, and 1.00 SVP to rock the category for the week.
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Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
Yeah, I had thought of having that category but having a goalie pulled is not a common occurrence, and I think that awarding a goalie who gets shelled (like Vokoun in Florida) for having a bad team didn’t make sense.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens. - Certified Grabbo Lover
Ah, yeah, that makes sense if we end up doing one goalie slot. Vokun-status + backup-quality netminder would probably even out, but yeah, if we do 1 slot, it’d probably make certain ’tenders too dominant.
If I'm losing an argument, I ask myself "What would a real journalist do?"
Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
the good thing about saves is that it is a balancing category for those people who dont have a top goalie – or are even platooning a bunch of backups – to have a chance to win a category.
if my guys are going 3-3 every week, and i continually lose to 4-2 or 5-1 guys with stellar GAA, at least i have a fighting chance to take a category from the goalie side each & every week.
it’ll probbaly keep the standings tighter & therefor keep more people interested for longer… nobody wants the #18, 19, and 20 place people to stop caring in late november.
by Death_By_Leafs on Sep 3, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m in again if there’s room.
I completed the google form but haven’t had a chance to read all comments in this post[summer on Yukon coast means lousy interwebs connection] but here are my other comments.
I like bigger rosters with plenty of bench spots. It is in the later picks and mid-season obscure pickups that I think one shows one’s hockey sense.
20 teams in a league is too many to have sufficient goaltending available. Even 16 teams in a league makes goaltending pretty scarce. The larger the number of teams the fewer goaltending stats should be used and the fewer games teams should need to dress goalies.
However, I’ll play in almost any format.
"I'd walk into the Leafs dressing room to get ready for the day and Harold would be there in his boxer shorts shaving. King Clancy would drop by a little later, play the fool, and then head off to the racetrack." John Brophy
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