Lazy, Lazy, Lazy Media
Dowbiggin's article today was infuriating on a few levels, but this in particular made me mental:
That might be a problem as "blogger" has come to be synonymous for bending the rules on sourcing or taking liberties with research.
I won't rush to the defence of the many high-quality bloggers that post here or on their own sites - the quality of your work is obvious. And to be fair, there are a lot of blogs out there that are bush-league, lazy with research, and not particularly well-written.
What's really infuriating though is the implication that the main stream media are in any way more accountable, or more vigilante in their research, than many bloggers. As far as I can tell, many journalists don't do any research, period. Do you know what prompted me to start keeping my own record of Leaf trades (my first post here way back when), or my own database of draft statistics? I was FED UP with reading things in the paper or online that I knew were UNTRUE, or worse, having these mistruths repeated back to me in a hockey argument by someone who had read the same old tired line over and over again they just assumed it was true. That's probably what's impressed me most about the PPP community - there is a remarkable committment to intelligent hockey research based on facts, regardless of whether it paints the Leafs in a positive or negative light. Keep it up, everyone. Please.
Anyway, the article today reminded me of an e-mail I sent to Mark Zwolinksi at the Star a few years ago, which I dug out of my mailbox and present here after the jump. Not surprisingly, Markie didn't reply.
From: daoust
To: mzwolinski@thestar.ca
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:28:48 PM
Subject: Lazy, Lazy, Lazy Media
Hi Mark – I just wanted to point something out to you regarding your story today. Specifically, this paragraph: “The Leafs have a history of playing focused, winning hockey in response to their captain's absence. The club, relying largely on its role players, dispatched a more talented Ottawa Senators team in seven games in the first round of the 2003-04 playoffs after Sundin was lost in the opener with an orbital bone injury.”
Well, according to Hockey DB, mats played 9 of a possible 13 playoff games that year (7 against the sens, 6 against the flyers) scoring 9 points along the way. There was an injury in there at some point which I admittedly don’t remember – it could have been against Ottawa or against Philly - but at a minimum he definitely played at least 3 games against Ottawa, if not all of them. The sens being the “more talented” team in 03/04 is certainly a matter of opinion, given the leafs had 103 pts (a team record) to the sens 102. I guess goaltending isn’t important, especially in the playoffs (Lalime). And Joe Nieuwendyk , who scored 50pts in 64 games with TO that year, is a “role player”? I digress.
Mats injured his wrist in game 2, I believe, against the Isle in the first round of 01-02. True, he missed all 7 games when the leafs defeated the sens in the 2nd round, but that year the leafs were ranked 4th with 100 pts (1 point behind Boston , who won the division and the conference), while the sens were ranked 7th with 94 pts (and they had Lalime in net), so again the "more talented" description is debatable. (You might remember Mats came back in time for the conference final against Carolina, which is why I, and I’m sure others, thought that that was going to be our year… through the first 2 rounds without Mats, then getting him back for the conference final? It was meant to be! Damn you “killer B” line.)
Mats sustained an orbital bone injury in the opening game against the sens in the 05-06 season, which caused him to miss more games than he ever had in his career. As an aside, I found it interesting that many media types at the time pointed to Mats’ injury as evidence of his aging body giving out on him. Like taking a puck to the face has anything to do with age or physical shape.
In any event, I liked how you combined 3 different events into 1 tight little summary. Like a cultural mosaic of facts - how very Canadian! In all seriousness, I wish that errors like yours were an anomaly in sports reporting, but sadly they are not. Opinions are presented as fact, factual details are modified and glossed over to present an easy-to-deliver storyline, and no one’s held accountable. I thought most media outlets employed ‘fact checkers’, but I guess they’re a dying breed.
Take care
DD
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Fuck ya buddy.
You showed him what’s good.
Waaaay too much Versteez.
Colton Orr is a Beauty.
by happiergilmore on Sep 15, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
You fail
Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
You did more research than was required to critique the media. Once again, you’re not legit. Go back to your basement, you blogger wanna-be.
(Good stuff though)
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Zwolinski couldn’t reply because he couldn’t see the screen after that beating.
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by PPP on Sep 16, 2010 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mainstream media LOVES to paint the Senators as a more talented team than the Leafs, even when they weren’t. They’ve done so for at least 10 years now. (Since the lockout it’s been accurate, but we’re talking before here.)
The only Battle of Ontario playoff series where the Leafs had to “rely largely on their role players” was 2002, when they were missing Sundin (among others) the whole series, and had to rely on Gary Roberts and Alyn McCauley. (McCauley was a nice surprise that series.) And…the Leafs still won. They won all four of those series. Interestingly enough, in 2001 the Leafs were given the least chance, some of the MSM believed Ottawa would sweep. We all know what happened there. How talented the Senators were back then, indeed!
I remember an off season where Steve Simmons reported that Mats Sundin was having “career-threatening hip surgery”. Turns out it wasn’t true. The concept of research is lost on the MSM apparently.
Truculence...starting 10/1/09
Yeah, somehow the Sens became the media poster-boys, logic and reasonable arguments be damned!
Infuriating. Somewhat palatable after each playoff series had ended though.
Be an Optimist Prime, not a Negatron.
Адразу Ліфс Перайсці !
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 16, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Can I see your shoe, because I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen anyone put their foot up someone’s ass that far before?
Holy jeebus.
The Maple Leafs- making me certifiably insane since 1985.
I just imagined him taking one deep breath and then reading the entire article in one long sentence.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 16, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Just an aside
if you’re ever unsure about an NHL player’s injury history, just look up his player sheet on TSN.ca.
For instance, we can find out that Mats Sundin was injured on May 15th, 2002, against the Islanders, and specifically missed games 4,5,6 and 7, then he missed all 7 games against Ottawa, and game 1 against the Hurricanes. That was a broken left wrist (a portent of his aging body perhaps?).
He was day to day around April 15th in 2004, and then subsequently missed 4 playoff games with a left-leg injury starting on April 25th of 2004. No Orbital bones mentioned there!
In 05-06 as you stated he took a puck to the face and broke his lower orbital bone and he missed 12 games of the season. Then 4 days after he got back he injured his right elbow and missed another 7 games. Two separate injuries conspired to keep him out of 19 games that year, and it was all at the beginning of the season… obviously getting your arm pinned against the boards when it gets slammed into is almost as obvious a sign of age as taking a puck in the face.
Anyhoo… TSN.ca… player sites… lists all the injuries and number of games missed.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Woops
not May 15th… he RETURNED on May 19th, 2002. He originally broke the wrist on April 24th, 2002. Apologies for MY error in FACT CHECKING.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Sep 16, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny you should mention it.
When I asked you earlier this evening if you recalled another injury aside from Reimer’s ankle, you remembered… but somehow, it’s not on his TSN page.
"Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?"
Pretty sure they are only accurate on injuries in the NHL.
AHL can be pretty spotty with that sort of thing.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 17, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
TSN only tracks NHL injury reports…. AHL injuries aren’t present… nor are injuries in Junior.
Thus NONE of his injuries are listed on his TSN player page.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Sep 17, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That being said
Reimer suffered a high ankle sprain in his 2nd year in Red Deer, which set back his development, and he did so again last season, although it’s quite possible the two injuries happened in different ankles.
Either way… I also have a good memory… even if things aren’t posted on TSN.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Sep 17, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions

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