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He didn’t mind at all when a group of players caught planning a helicopter ride to Manhattan for an evening of partying the night before a game in New Jersey ended up receiving exit visas.

He didn’t mind waving farewell to a player he liked to call the "NBC Page" (30 Rock reference) for his propensity to have constant groups of friends and family touring the Leaf dressing room.

When will bloggers stop irresponsibly spreading rumours? It is disgraceful that Ian White, Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Jason Blake, Vesa Toskala and Jamal Mayers have all been slandered by this comment. If this blogger ever gets near a press box he should have to put up a $10,000 bond.

Not to mention, who is the NBC Page? I have to know who they are calling Kenneth (note: I assume that the blogger in question does not watch 30 Rock and cannot use Google).

Who is this irresponsible rumourmonger? Who else.

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What do you expect him to do not spread rumors? He is Canadian* after all…

*see Cox’s stupid tweets from earlier.

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by Travis Hair on Sep 17, 2010 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I will defend Cox on one thing, maybe Wilson actually did call the player “NBC Page”.

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by leafer1984 on Sep 17, 2010 12:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That is another option but Wilson seems cool enough to call him Kenneth only to have Cox ask “Why Kenneth?” “Oh, he’s the NBC Page from 30 Rock”

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by PPP on Sep 17, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only say that because he put “NBC page” in quotes not brackets.
Maybe we are both reading way into it too much.
Maybe we both need hockey season to start.
Maybe I need to go to bed.
Maybe I need to stop saying maybe.
Maybe.

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by leafer1984 on Sep 17, 2010 12:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ok I missed something. Since when did everyone change their name?

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by furcifer on Sep 17, 2010 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Never mind

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by furcifer on Sep 17, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kenneth the Page

"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."

by Wrap Around Curl on Sep 17, 2010 2:04 AM EDT reply actions  

<3’s for Kenneth

...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd.

by Fergus30 on Sep 17, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's hard for Matt Stajan to watch American Idol

Because there’s a waterbug on his channel changer.

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by TheOtherAndrew on Sep 17, 2010 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

so so Stajan.

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by A Lindros Jaw on Sep 17, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m trying to pay as little attention to that troll as possible.

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by article1 on Sep 17, 2010 2:25 AM EDT reply actions  

More thinking:

I think this is all a trick to get bloggers to speculate on the identities of the players in question. If they do, he can troll in, shout ‘IRRESPONSIBLE BLOGGERS’ and then coxblock them. If they don’t, he can tell us all about how all-knowing the MSM is and how the world doesn’t need blogs. And then coxblock anyone who disagrees.

His shtick’s wearing pretty thin with us, which is probably why he’s moved on to the Capitals.

Of course, the only reason he’s doing any of this is because he’s Canadian.

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by article1 on Sep 17, 2010 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he’s moving on to the Capitals, I vote we help him pack his shit up out of his mom’s basement, give him gas money (you know…the “now I gotta turn my back on ya” moment), and wish him well in Washington.

Please make this happen.

Cox, Dowbiggin, and Simmons for Japers and Ovechkin or Backstrom.

Do it.

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by torleafsfan29 on Sep 17, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, even I’d go with that

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by Leafer87 on Sep 17, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is this? Hockeyboards? Why won’t you people ever quite with your crazy incessant trade speculation!

Besides I had it as a 3 way in which Cox and Simmons went to NJ, Lamorello and Dowbiggin went to Washington, and Kovy, Ovechkin and Backstrom came to us, but only under the strict understanding that Kovy was to retire in 5 years.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 18, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like this one better
We lose Finger’s contract right?

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by Leafer87 on Sep 18, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is all a trick to get bloggers to speculate on the identities of the players

You might be more right then you think. I wouldn’t put it past him.

I also think it’s pointless to speculate on their identities since Cox is such a dope and he’s speaking so ambiguusly while trying so hard to sound like he has inside knowledge that it makes me think he himself is probably fuzzy on the details or has been misled and only got them half-correct.

For example, it could be that one of the players is still with the team (oops) or that the helicopter group was never “caught”, just simply Wilson “learned of it”. “Caught” implies that they were explicitly forewarned not to do so and then actively prevented from doing it. I doubt that was the case.

Was it mild disapproval over a player’s juvenile attitude, or extreme friction caused by unnacceptable, deceitful behaviour that was harmful to the team? Who cares. We’ll never know, and we don’t even know WHO or WHAT we’re talking about. Lame.

by general borschevsky on Sep 17, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you’re on the nose about this. Innuendo isn’t rumor mongering. He’s not saying WHO did WHAT, but he’s implying he knows what it was. So he has the benefit of being both an insider, and a gossip, while still holding onto his so called “integrity”.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 17, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

So rec’d. Love the Saigon reference.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 17, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I loved the “loves helicopter rides” bit

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by loser domi on Sep 17, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

pseudo-genius.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 17, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where’s the button for pseudo-rec? I gave it the real kind out of sheer lack of alternative.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 18, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, i rec’d it. just can’t be throwing out “genius” all willy-nilly.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 18, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

So will this be his response on October 8th if the Leafs lose?

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by birky on Sep 17, 2010 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Well don't go doing his entire column for him

Just kidding. He’s got that and 3 more like it cued up just in case.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 17, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

But if he does write that

We can say that he copied it off of PPP again.

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by LeafBoy on Sep 17, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh dear, I'm defending the Cox

Wasn’t the big blogger vs. reporter Dowbiggin flap all about anonymity? Cox is reporting “rumors” from around the Leafs, but he’s doing so with his full name so, theoretically, if he makes a big enough mistake he could lose his job. (Ha, none of that will happen and I can’t believe I’m defending Cox, but working with reporters who are bloggers and bloggers who are reporters is what I do for my day job, so I have a particular interest in sorting through all this stuff. Also, “Dowbiggin flap.”)

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by Berezin's Spleen on Sep 17, 2010 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s the accusation about fact checking much more than anonymity. That bloggers are no more or less a rumor mill than an sports opinion columnist who doesn’t base his “facts” on anything.

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by Bower Power on Sep 17, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. The whole point of the modern column was to separate it from the more fact-based level of hard news reporting and provide an arena for personality, speculation and, allegedly, entertainment. Columnists were basically proto-bloggers, digging up and occasionally, as a favor to a source, planting rumors (for those interested in this stuff, The Sweet Smell of Success, about mega-columnist Walter Winchell is a fantastic movie). So it’s absurd that columnists are calling out bloggers for basically doing the same thing. Anyway, I realize this isn’t a blog about the evolution of journalistic ethics so, uhh, gotta like that Greg McKegg, right?

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by Berezin's Spleen on Sep 17, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Here's the thing

It’s not really about anonymity. You can go anywhere and people know that PPP is PPP, that Chemmy is Chemmy, and that Wrap Around Curl is Wrap Around Curl. Have you ever met one of those three, Damien Cox or Bruce Bowbiggin in person? Will you ever? The answer is more than likely no. What if you do meet one of us and we say, call me SkinnyFish. It’s just a nickname, just like Monster or Komikazi.

A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet. It doesn’t matter what it says on the byline because you still know who the person was who wrote the article you just read. So what if that name isn’t represented on a birth certificate somewhere? Does that really matter?

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 17, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, in the broadest possible sense, I feel pretty strongly that anonymity+the Internet leads to some pretty crummy journalism and, on occasion, really awful behavior (obviously not in the case of the aforementioned hockey bloggers). This isn’t to suggest that the genuinely bylined reporters, e.g. Coxbiggin, aren’t constantly rewriting their own “code” of journalistic ethics, but simply because bylined guys can be unethical jerks doesn’t mean that bylines don’t matter. Maybe it’s a little naive, but I do hold on to the real name=a bit more accountability idea… (My real name is Jonny Diamond, btw.)

Now that my name’s on here, I really have to go back to work.

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by Berezin's Spleen on Sep 17, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it really anonymity if you consistently always post under the same name?

I mean, there’s 3 levels, right:

1) true anonymity where everyone is just “anon” and you can’t tell if one post or the next if from the same person. See 4chan.

2) true identification, where a media outlet has checked your SIN (SSN for the Americans) so it is, for sure, your legal name attached to the article.

3) Pseudo-anonymity in which you have a pseudonym that is obscured from your legal identity, but is consistent with regard to posts and comments over time.

It seems to me that 3 allows for just as much as true identification in terms of tracking a reputation for reliability, cheap shots, offensiveness, etc. And in the case of an extreme legal event, most pseudo-identitites here could be fairly rapidly tracked back to a legal identity.

And really, for journalism accountability purposes, that’s really all you need.

ps. the irony would be much sweeter if Cox was at the Globe, because their byline quote is from Junius (always used to be, anyway, I assume it still it), which was the pseudoname of a British writer.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 18, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome to PPP, BTW

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 18, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Wilson demonstrated with the U.S. side at the 2010 Winter Olympics he doesn’t need the most talent to compete, and he’s got to do the same now with the Leafs.”

Ryan Miller.

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Sep 17, 2010 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully people will be saying “Giguere” or “Gustavsson” by Christmas or Wilson will be saying “paper or plastic?”

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by PPP on Sep 17, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have my doubt’s but I’m rec that for funny future NN outlook.

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by BlueBuds on Sep 17, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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